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I believe my suspicion of the editor being a SPA and SSP are relevent and valid assumption do to his history and the article that he is SPA editing. I have tried to alert the community of my suspisions per policy of the fact, but he has removed the template. I recommend putting SSP template and <nowiki>{{subst:spa|username|UTC timestamp }}.</nowiki> on his talk page so the community is alert to the situation. You may not agree with me for what ever reasons you have, and that is your choice. I do not want to wheelwar with you about this matter because it is not just about the two of us but about other editors and the ommunity as the whole. Following your suggestion to take to ] is wrong because it will be just another wikidrama and a shouting match, and this I want to avoid. What I will do unless the editor show respect for the AA article and other articles in the projects descrimination and politics, as he is POving now at VP, I will RFC/U. Now this is not something that I want to do. We need to avoid inflaming the situation. Let the editor win my and community respect, because past on suspected behavior of SP and SPA I think many of us having trouble with AGF. But per our community spirit we still have to AGF. So it is up to the user. Let him edit some other articles not just POV on AA. The behavior is not conducive to positive editng, not me in particular. Because once the article goes back to normal not hypertention I can go do other thinngs and have the article built by consensus of many editors involved. They will come around. Anyway, I do not know if you want to talk to him about this matter and give him some advice, that is your choice. There is no need for a reply from you on this matter. It is just clarification and my intent on how to procede unless I percive the POV on AA deescalates. Thank you, ] (]) 21:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC) |
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Due to your edit summary here, I reverted my own edit and took the discussion to the talk page. If you would like to weigh in, please do so, otherwise I will reinstate my edits depending on whatever consensus is reached there. Thanks! -kotra (talk) 08:39, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Why is my fake page up for deletion?
I checked the entry and I cannot see any concensus. Please explain why. I thought userpages were for the user to do what they would to, how they expressed themselves.--Smashbrosboy 01:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- I've removed the MfD notice from your page, since the deletion discussion closed with no consensus. Fake pages may still be deleted at some point, as the closing admin made a comment that consensus had been shown for those. I don't personally agree with that notion. If I were you, I would wait and see if the page does indeed get deleted, and if it does, contact the closing admin at User talk:Secret with your objection. Or possibly begin a discussion at WP:DRV. Equazcion •✗/C • 01:26, 9 Apr 2008 (UTC)
MfD premature closure
Apologies for my premature closure of the User:Diligent Terrier/Adoption Program Mfd. I did not notice your point that had been raised. My reasoning for the closure was per WP:SNOW but i see i was incorrect here. Seddon69 (talk) 22:16, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- That's alright. However, if you'd like to get your feet wet in admin-type dealings, you might want to participate in discussions at WP:ANI instead, as one possibility. I understand you're hoping to become an admin, but deletion closings and maintaining the MfD page is generally left to current admins, with rare exception. Equazcion •✗/C • 22:19, 9 Apr 2008 (UTC)
- Yer, perhaps i was being a little too bold :) Well, ill learn, though i believe i did close the discussion from the 29th correctly. So i think i wasn't too over my head in that case. Ill concentrate more in ANI and AfD before coming back here. :) Thanks Seddon69 (talk) 22:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
- I agree, that was a special situation. But do note that closed discussions are generally left for a while, then converted to links and moved under "Old business", where they then stay for a while again, and only then are they removed entirely. Good luck with the admining :)Equazcion •✗/C • 22:35, 9 Apr 2008 (UTC)
- Kk cool, ill make a note of that for future reference and learn from it :) Seddon69 (talk) 22:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
User Velebit
In the end if I am wrong I will be blocked (so I will continue to delete his comments) If right nothing will happen.--Rjecina (talk) 11:02, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- If you have a suspicion that he's a banned user, bring it to WP:Suspected sockpuppets. Don't continue deleting his comments just because you have a suspicion. Equazcion •✗/C • 11:05, 10 Apr 2008 (UTC)
- To tell truth I am not having suspicion because I know that he is user:Velebit but it is hard job to explain administrators which do not know case Velebit/Stagalj/Standshown that this is new puppet of banned user. In the end I have been deleting/reverting IP address not this user. To make everybody happy I will wait deletings until he is blocked.--Rjecina (talk) 11:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you, that's probably the best way to go. Equazcion •✗/C • 11:11, 10 Apr 2008 (UTC)
- This fellow "Rjecina" is a complete looney. Pardon my vocabulary, but I haven't been active in Misplaced Pages project for months, and have absolutely no idea who neither "Rjecina" nor "Velebit" are. I only know that this guy has been bullying me and deleting my comments for past two days, explaining that he finds my IP suspicious. My IP address is obtained dynamically from the IP pool of my provider, and dozens thousands users from Serbia obtain it the same way. I think it was obvious from the content of my input and arguments I presented that I am neither a "vandal" nor a "troll", and considering "POV" Rjecina mentiones, his actions speak for himself. I made some minor edits considering some disputes, and presented my reasons and explanation in the Talk Page, and as a result I get this pest deleting everything I write, and using his acquaintances here to persuade other members that I should be banned. If this is something he repetitively does, I suggest checking if he really is after this "friend" of his, or is just using that as a cover to mess with other people's contributions. Not many people have time to mess with this, or knowledge to restore their posts without retyping them, and I absolutely see no logical or moral explanation for this. I don't know if that is part of common courtesy here, but I do expect a formal apology from this man for deleting my contributions, insulting me and spreading lies about me to other members. Marechiel (talk) 23:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- I can't possibly back up your complaint of being wrongfully called a troll when you make edits like this, accusing other people of making edits on articles because they're "jealous". I really don't care whether or not you're a banned user who returned. Your comments were uncalled for. Equazcion •✗/C • 23:12, 10 Apr 2008 (UTC)
- And here is the explanation: you will notice one pattern in disputing or relativizing Tesla's Serbian origin - the nation they come from. Hence my remark. I don't know if you remember last year's edit war about Tesla's article. Pardon me for reacting emotionally, but keep in mind that Serbian American prefix had been deleted without any explanation, while I placed it explaining why I was doing so. And the reason is simple - the existence of both Serbian American and Croatian American community, and Tesla was part of the former. Marechiel (talk) 23:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- No, I'm not aware of any edit war a year ago, and I don't know or care about Tesla's roots. Keep it civil and don't accuse others of making edits out of jealousy. If people are reverting you, talk it out on the talk page rather than reverting them back. We have rules here; see WP:3RR, WP:CIVIL, WP:NPA. Equazcion •✗/C • 23:52, 10 Apr 2008 (UTC)
- And here is the explanation: you will notice one pattern in disputing or relativizing Tesla's Serbian origin - the nation they come from. Hence my remark. I don't know if you remember last year's edit war about Tesla's article. Pardon me for reacting emotionally, but keep in mind that Serbian American prefix had been deleted without any explanation, while I placed it explaining why I was doing so. And the reason is simple - the existence of both Serbian American and Croatian American community, and Tesla was part of the former. Marechiel (talk) 23:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- I can't possibly back up your complaint of being wrongfully called a troll when you make edits like this, accusing other people of making edits on articles because they're "jealous". I really don't care whether or not you're a banned user who returned. Your comments were uncalled for. Equazcion •✗/C • 23:12, 10 Apr 2008 (UTC)
- This fellow "Rjecina" is a complete looney. Pardon my vocabulary, but I haven't been active in Misplaced Pages project for months, and have absolutely no idea who neither "Rjecina" nor "Velebit" are. I only know that this guy has been bullying me and deleting my comments for past two days, explaining that he finds my IP suspicious. My IP address is obtained dynamically from the IP pool of my provider, and dozens thousands users from Serbia obtain it the same way. I think it was obvious from the content of my input and arguments I presented that I am neither a "vandal" nor a "troll", and considering "POV" Rjecina mentiones, his actions speak for himself. I made some minor edits considering some disputes, and presented my reasons and explanation in the Talk Page, and as a result I get this pest deleting everything I write, and using his acquaintances here to persuade other members that I should be banned. If this is something he repetitively does, I suggest checking if he really is after this "friend" of his, or is just using that as a cover to mess with other people's contributions. Not many people have time to mess with this, or knowledge to restore their posts without retyping them, and I absolutely see no logical or moral explanation for this. I don't know if that is part of common courtesy here, but I do expect a formal apology from this man for deleting my contributions, insulting me and spreading lies about me to other members. Marechiel (talk) 23:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you, that's probably the best way to go. Equazcion •✗/C • 11:11, 10 Apr 2008 (UTC)
- To tell truth I am not having suspicion because I know that he is user:Velebit but it is hard job to explain administrators which do not know case Velebit/Stagalj/Standshown that this is new puppet of banned user. In the end I have been deleting/reverting IP address not this user. To make everybody happy I will wait deletings until he is blocked.--Rjecina (talk) 11:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
You seem to have overwritten an old MfD
I don't imagine you did it purposefully, and I reverted you. You might want to start a Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Editors willing to make difficult edits, Part Deux instead.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 06:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
- Oops. Thanks for reverting it, I didn't notice the previous nom. Since it seems to have been kept rather recently I won't re-nominate it. Equazcion •✗/C • 06:31, 11 Apr 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Aikido
Why did you delete the archive box on Talk:Aikido? --Yooden ☮
- The talkheader box was recently changed so that it includes an automatic listing of archives, so the separate archive box is unnecessary. Notice the list of archives at the top of the page. Equazcion •✗/C • 14:31, 12 Apr 2008 (UTC)
WP:SPA and WP:SSP
I believe my suspicion of the editor being a SPA and SSP are relevent and valid assumption do to his history and the article that he is SPA editing. I have tried to alert the community of my suspisions per policy of the fact, but he has removed the template. I recommend putting SSP template and {{subst:spa|username|UTC timestamp }}. on his talk page so the community is alert to the situation. You may not agree with me for what ever reasons you have, and that is your choice. I do not want to wheelwar with you about this matter because it is not just about the two of us but about other editors and the ommunity as the whole. Following your suggestion to take to WP:ANI is wrong because it will be just another wikidrama and a shouting match, and this I want to avoid. What I will do unless the editor show respect for the AA article and other articles in the projects descrimination and politics, as he is POving now at VP, I will RFC/U. Now this is not something that I want to do. We need to avoid inflaming the situation. Let the editor win my and community respect, because past on suspected behavior of SP and SPA I think many of us having trouble with AGF. But per our community spirit we still have to AGF. So it is up to the user. Let him edit some other articles not just POV on AA. The behavior is not conducive to positive editng, not me in particular. Because once the article goes back to normal not hypertention I can go do other thinngs and have the article built by consensus of many editors involved. They will come around. Anyway, I do not know if you want to talk to him about this matter and give him some advice, that is your choice. There is no need for a reply from you on this matter. It is just clarification and my intent on how to procede unless I percive the POV on AA deescalates. Thank you, Igor Berger (talk) 21:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)