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Ref formating

It isn't as hard as it looks if you do it in multiple steps. The first step is to put <ref> and </ref> around the link and see if that doesn't screw anything up. If there are no references on the page you may need to add a <references/> tag in the references section (which tells the software where to put all the references) Once that's set up, choose which template applies such as Template:Cite web, Template:Cite news, Template:Cite book(if you use web when you mean news or something like that no one is going to care). Paste that in between the ref markers and fill out the details.

That's the basic idea. The only thing to remember is that if you want to cite something multiple times the first time it shows up instead of writing <ref> put <ref name="some convenent name for the source"> This will tell the software on that page to treat anything of the form <nowiki><ref name="some convenent name for the source"/> (note the slash after the quotation mark) as additional links to the text. One minor note, you need the quotation marks here if there are any spaces in your name for the source. Also, don't be afraid to use preview, and if you mess up a few times, no big deal. Just revert it to a simple form. JoshuaZ (talk) 01:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks very much, this is helpful. Angry Christian (talk) 02:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Material duplication on Expelled

D'oy, I didn't think to look for the New Scientist comments in the Screenings section. Reckon it's worth leaving the comments about the movie in the Reviews section, and moving the comments about the Q&A to the Screenings section?Sockatume (talk) 22:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

No worries, I think you put the same (mostly) comments in the review section and that's where those should have been in the first place. So the end result is the article is better! And moving the Q&A questions to the screening section looks like a good idea however I just cleaned that section up and now we have 3 distinct "screening" sub-sections so we need use the top header section for more generic less dramatic screening info, you think? I wonder if this makes a bit of sense Angry Christian (talk) 22:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

You're right, we could use the top section for more general comments on the screenings. On the other hand, splitting material from a single review across multiple sections could get unduly complicated, and invite material duplication if someone spots part of an article in one section and thinks we've "missed a bit". 137.195.68.169 (talk) 11:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

NCDave

Yeah, he's doing the same thing at greenhouse gases and maybe some of the other climate change pages. Guettarda (talk) 20:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah I've been watching that. Angry Christian (talk) 20:32, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

He has a long history of this. That RFC, by the way, is also a good example of how not to conduct an RFC. Guettarda (talk) 20:45, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Edit-warring over POV tags is not exactly a new behavior in this case. MastCell  21:43, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Appears to be a serial trouble maker. Angry Christian (talk) 22:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Expelled article

Hello Angry Christian. Thank you for reverting my recent removal of the word alleged in the Expelled article so the article better conforms to the talk page. Could you show me where on the talk page it is discussed. As you know, that talk page is very long. Thanks. Have a great day. JBFrenchhorn (talk) 22:47, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah the talk page is lengthy. Try here The distinction is some of what the producers call societal ills are not ills to everyone (not everyone think atheism is a societal ill and some people actually appreciate Planned Parenthood), so we used the term alleged. Angry Christian (talk) 22:53, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

As you can see I too questioned the wisdom of using "alleged". Angry Christian (talk) 22:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll add my own comments to that thread. JBFrenchhorn (talk) 23:14, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi. It appears that the removal of the word 'controversial' from the article was User:Ashmoo. Cheers.--Lepeu1999 (talk) 18:54, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Ahh thanks for pointing that out and sorry for any confusion I caused. Angry Christian (talk) 19:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

No worries! At the rate the edits are piling up on that article it's no wonder! Best of luck with it!--Lepeu1999 (talk) 23:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, AC. I'm glad that some people can remain level-headed on emotionally charged issues. The article is in dire need of peer review. It will be very much improved if it opened with a description of what the movie claims before moving into the controversy and criticisms (and I believe you've suggested this). I might hold off on my major suggestions until after the review. Cheers. Judicata (talk) 23:42, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

I swear this place is surreal sometimes. I looked at some of your edits, the irony is the article is in need of people like you who have a grasp on the english language and say more with less. You don't need anyone's permission to edit the article and everything does not have to be approved by committee. Jump in and help make it better, well if you have the stomach for it. It's amusing to watch though. Peer review with fresh eyes would be ideal. See you on the firing line! Angry Christian (talk) 03:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

This is my final warning to you and to all others participating on the Expelled Talk Page. The next time you disrupt the page by violating WP: Civility, discussing things not related to improving the article, reversing deletion of such comments, etc, you will be blocked. Nightscream (talk) 04:53, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

What the fuck are you talking about? Angry Christian (talk) 11:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

You're an admin right, so I'll ask you again. What the fuck are you talking about? Would you care to shed some light on "This is my final warning to you and to all others participating on the Expelled Talk Page. The next time you disrupt the page by violating WP: Civility, discussing things not related to improving the article, reversing deletion of such comments, etc, you will be blocked."

"Final warning"? What? Where was the first warning? Secondly, what the fuck did I say on the talk page that was uncivil in the first place? Do you always go around making threats to ban people without giving any details as to why? WTF? How long have you been an admin? What did I say on the talk page that lead you to put this warning on my talk page? Finally, if you think being expelled from the Expelled article is going to hurt my feelings you're sadly mistaken. It's actually kind of funny. Angry Christian (talk) 17:31, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Midnight Gardener (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

because I have yet to know why I was threatened in the first place. Holy cow man.

Decline reason:

Templated messages aren't threats. Even if you have been threatened, however, that is not a reason to unblock you. — Yamla (talk) 17:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

And why am I being blocked from ALL of wikipedia? WTF? How long have you been an admin? Seriously. Are you new? Angry Christian (talk) 17:34, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Wait, I get it. We get banned if we say "fuck" on our talk page? Angry Christian (talk) 17:36, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Simple

That's not his job title, that's an honorific title. There's a difference I suggest people there learn. The reason I remove it is because the others that have honorific titles like Dawkins don't have them used at the article, giving Marks special treatment. If you're going to use honorific titles for one there you need to use them for all that have them in order to avoid favoring one side of the debate. Odd nature (talk) 18:29, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I follow your reasoning but when I look at his employment history on the Baylor website under the "Employment" header they clearly indicate that is his employment title. See here. So it appears this is not an honorific title. Would you mind checking it out? Thanks Angry Christian (talk) 18:34, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Honesty

If you want to call me dishonest, at least have the basic courtesy addressing what I said. If you want to call me dishonest, please provide evidence. Personal attacks are not tolerable in any case, but I would be far less bothered if you actually connected your accusations with what I said. Please support or strike your attacks. Thanks. Guettarda (talk) 06:03, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Guettarda I'll reply here and address your comments on the Expelled talk page when I get some time. Cheers! Angry Christian (talk) 14:19, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Just replied on the talk page! Angry Christian (talk) 02:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Guitar

I play a Fender Stratocastor squire on electric. And a Takamini on acoustic. Do you play as well? Saksjn (talk) 17:15, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes I play a Gretsch Tennessee Rose (modern and not vintage) and a Fender Telecaster. I own a Fender Stratocaster but I haven't played it in years. It's pretty nice but doesn't have an ideal tone for the kind of music I play (ancient hillbilly). For acoustic I play a Guild Jumbo body and/or a Martin. I've never even looked at the articles here about those guitars, I should check it out and see if there is something I could add. Angry Christian (talk) 17:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

question about your criticism of atheism comments

Stumbled across your page after reading the article about expelled. Just idle curiosity mostly. I don't want to out you or anything if you don't want to be, but the comments on the criticism of atheism talk page made me wonder about your user name. In what sense should I interpret your user name "Angry Christian"? are you an adherent of Christianity who is incensed, angry ABOUT Christianity, or perhaps your name is Christian, or something completely different altogether. I am thinking about it too much, probably. Your comments caught me off guard is all; not in a bad way though.--66.102.196.36 (talk) 09:24, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

I am neither a christian nor am I angry. Was just the goofiest thing I could think of when I chose a name. Angry Christian (talk) 14:30, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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Reparations

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Hey man, I've been learning a lot about WP style editing since I've been on, and I'm trying to go back and make up for all the careless and stupid mistakes I made when I first came on to WP. I think it was my first week I posted a harassment template on your page for stuff that was going on in the Expelled discussion. Sorry bout that. Hope everything treats you well. Cheers. Infonation101 (talk) 03:54, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I was trying to remember when our path crossed and now I get it. That was then, this is now. I try not to take too much of this very seriously. I've been around a little longer and I'm still clumsy as hell so don't sweat it. Cheers! Angry Christian (talk) 04:08, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. One thing that I learned quickly is that the community is where the strength lies, and you seem to have been a good proponent there. There are some pages that are almost scary to get involved with (ie Expelled). Good luck in your editing. Infonation101 (talk) 04:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

My problem is I have many interests and hobbies that are rewarding but kinda boring to write about so I get involved in these insane articles whose talk pages are total carnage (like Expelled). It's getting old though because I'm quickly losing respect for several people who are on my side of the debate. That's an indication it's time to move on. We'll see. Angry Christian (talk) 14:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

If I may be permited a moment of levity...

Bensteinian Rhapsody Hrafn_Stalk 04:46, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

That is hilarious. There are a few like these sprouting up all over the place. PZ had a few good ones linked at his blog the other day. AtBC had a bunch of good ones too. Angry Christian (talk) 13:56, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

A little something to keep you going...

...until the Ben Stein bobbles start to turn up for sale: Ben Stein Autographed 8 X 10. Hrafn_Stalk 14:29, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for thinking of me but no, I want a bobble head. Something that is really dumb. I'll set up an Ebay alert. Angry Christian (talk) 14:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Your participation requested

(Cross-posted to several users' talk pages)

Your participation on User:Raul654/Civil POV pushing would be appreciated. Raul654 (talk) 20:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Did you happen to notice (re: "Expelled")...

...the reduced levels of protection on both Ben Stein and Expelled implemented today of all days? Odd, I must say. I would have figured one of the more prominent pro-science editors would have re-requested page protection by now, and I don't feel quite BOLD enough to do it on my own without some consensus. --Aunt Entropy (talk) 19:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi there, it's sunday evening and I just got your note. I see it's been addressed. Thanks for the heads up! Angry Christian (talk) 02:01, 21 April 2008 (UTC)