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| Hey, Pedro! Could I get your help ]? I figure it might be quicker to ping you directly... if you think I should go to a project page or something... I'm open to suggestion. I want to make sure that I get some help this person. -- ] 22:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | Hey, Pedro! Could I get your help ]? I figure it might be quicker to ping you directly... if you think I should go to a project page or something... I'm open to suggestion. I want to make sure that I get some help this person. -- ] 22:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
| :I've added some input there. Hope it helps! <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 07:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | :I've added some input there. Hope it helps! <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 07:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
| man y do u hate me? point out all my faults. so racist :( --Thfrang 10:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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The RfA
Well, it isn't going as well as I had hoped, but, that's ok. It's trust. Frankly speaking, this "double standard" business and references to my RfA voting are beyond strange to me. In fact, I'll flat out say that I have never manifested such a behavior. I feel there are now pile on opposes to the point where there is a slim chance for success. If there is a small flurry between now and the end of the day, in the same vein, I'm going to be forced to withdraw prematurely methinks. Anyway, must get to work, cheers! Wisdom89 (T / ) 12:53, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well, it's not going swimingly. However I would feel boosted by the strong supports, and, as have you stated, learn from all comments. It is regretable that it s going down hill, but one of those things. Should you withdraw / should you run it to the end and it not pass I trust and hope that your enthusiasm for Misplaced Pages will remain undimmed. I know RFA can be pretty brutal, but I also believe you are tough enough to get through it, whatever the outcome - I'd not have nominated otherwise. Pedro : Chat 13:53, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Keep your head up, Wisdom. It's far from over. You've seen these things swing before - it could very well swing back. I'm keeping the candlelight vigil going ;-) Tan | 39 15:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Kind and thoughtful words indeed from Tan. owever I believe that the RFA will not pass. I accept a considerable amount of responsibility for this, as your admin coach, and offer my sincere apologies that I have clearly not covered all the bases in "mentorship". Please do not be despondent. Pedro : Chat 16:30, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Pedro, I hold you in the highest regard. Your offer to coach me was thoughtful, delightful and amiable. There was no way in hell I was gonna pass up that opportunity. There is no blame to go around for a failed or rough RfA. In fact, I take exception to some of the opposes whereby I am referred to as a manufactured RfA applicant. It's as much a slight to you as it is to me. I am my own person, and no where do I see how you told me how to act or what to say at RfA. Tan, your kind words are also appreciated. I will continue to learn from mistakes and contribute to this encyclopedia for as long as it remains open to the public. I'm that passionate about it. I'm disconcerted at the moment, but I'm also resilient. I have a barnstar for that : ) Wisdom89 (T / ) 17:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- As ever, well said sir. Pedro : Chat 17:27, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Pedro, I hold you in the highest regard. Your offer to coach me was thoughtful, delightful and amiable. There was no way in hell I was gonna pass up that opportunity. There is no blame to go around for a failed or rough RfA. In fact, I take exception to some of the opposes whereby I am referred to as a manufactured RfA applicant. It's as much a slight to you as it is to me. I am my own person, and no where do I see how you told me how to act or what to say at RfA. Tan, your kind words are also appreciated. I will continue to learn from mistakes and contribute to this encyclopedia for as long as it remains open to the public. I'm that passionate about it. I'm disconcerted at the moment, but I'm also resilient. I have a barnstar for that : ) Wisdom89 (T / ) 17:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Kind and thoughtful words indeed from Tan. owever I believe that the RFA will not pass. I accept a considerable amount of responsibility for this, as your admin coach, and offer my sincere apologies that I have clearly not covered all the bases in "mentorship". Please do not be despondent. Pedro : Chat 16:30, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Keep your head up, Wisdom. It's far from over. You've seen these things swing before - it could very well swing back. I'm keeping the candlelight vigil going ;-) Tan | 39 15:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
The more I read the oppose !votes, the more despondent I am becoming, not because the RfA is going to fail (which I am certain it will), but because there are some outrageously cynical comments about my work/behavior. Sigh. I hate to say it, but, considering my personal experience here, and in light of other editors I've seen (as well as the numerous WT:RFA discussions), I feel that the RfA process is horribly misguided. Scrutiny is one thing, but, a few diffs (one 3 months ago!) from rspeer and it spirals downhill with "per user"? Users don't like my RfA !voting? I'm manufactured? I was told what to say? And the latest oppose..my answer to question six is scripted. Yikes...Sorry, but the process is a fishing expedition. Talk about Wikistress. Wisdom89 (T / ) 20:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- You didn't appear to think the the RfA process was "horribly misguided" only a few days ago though, so what's changed? Apart from you being on the receiving end of it, of course. :-) --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 20:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- It's cool, yeah I'm on the receiving end now : ) That's certainly new. However, I have expressed my wariness of the process in the past on WT:RFA. Wisdom89 (T / ) 20:44, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Opposes hurt. I'm not quite sure how Miranda feels your response to be "scripted" or her interpretation of that word. However Miranda is a long, long term editor who I do respect a lot, and if she feels that way I would recommend an exploration of her thoughts (though possibly away from the RFA). I honestly empathise with how crushing each oppose feels - it's like you're not valued or wanted. Clealry, from the strength of the supports, you are. I'm of the absolute opinion that (almost) all editors who comment at RFA do so with the best intentions and with sincerity. You should be proud of the (mainly removed!) per-transclusion support and the fact that many editors have taken time to voice their opinion. I can only offer my counsel that if this RFA does not pass then you still walk away head held high, and will still be, as ever, a respected editor of this project. Easy words, but genuinely meant. Pedro : Chat 20:29, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Hey dude, they sure do. Some of these in particular too. Regardless, I am going to transclude my withdraw statement in a few moments and bid everyone a farewell (there, not Misplaced Pages). I just want to say thanks again, and I will continue to defer to you for help. As of right now, I am fairly certain I will not be going for the mop again. I'm not putting myself through it. Cheers dude! And I am truly grateful. Wisdom89 (T / ) 23:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
incivility
Yes, I completely understand that I am supposed to be on a wikibreak. But, I got an e-mail telling me that I was being refered to as "ignorant" and I should "educate yourself before trying to spread this kind of ignorance farther." Now, I'm no expert on the civility laws, but wouldn't being refered to as "ignorant" be a violation of those laws? BTW, the discussion is found here. I'm going to go back to my Wikibreak, and pray that God will soften his heart and that I won't recieve any more e-mails like that one. RC-0722 /1 16:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- I will review the diff, but a simple solution is to delete the e-mail. I'm generally not convinced that Misplaced Pages matters should be discussed of wiki unless there are pressing needs of privacy. Pedro : Chat 17:09, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- You misunderstood me. I'm supposed to be on a WikiBreak, and so a user knowing that e-mailed me saying that User:Filll was calling me "ignorant". Hope that clears things up! BTW, I'll check your talk page periodically to see if you replied. RC-0722 /1 18:13, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
COI help please
Hey, Pedro! Could I get your help over here? I figure it might be quicker to ping you directly... if you think I should go to a project page or something... I'm open to suggestion. I want to make sure that I get some help this person. -- Swerdnaneb 22:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- I've added some input there. Hope it helps! Pedro : Chat 07:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
man y do u hate me? point out all my faults. so racist :( --Thfrang 10:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)