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Dated sub-cats

Essentially the templates need to be tweaked, and the sub cats created. There's a few bits of admin too, but that's the crux. I'll have a look at it. Rich Farmbrough, 21:29 11 March 2008 (GMT).

Basically done. Rich Farmbrough, 22:41 12 March 2008 (GMT).

Template merge

Elonka: Hi. Would you please advise me on whether there is a formal process for merging templates? The two templates at issue are Template:Protestant_missions_to_India and Template:Indian Christianity. A merger has been proposed here, but I have my doubts about its transparency: I would assume that notices on the talk pages of the relevant templates are a basic expectation, yet I have seen nothing of the sort. A second part of the discussion may be found here. I am also troubled by th dismissive and sarcastic tone of the other editor. This is not my usual area of interest, but I hate to see a useful contribution to the encyclopedia eclipsed without due process. Thanks in advance for your help. Aramgar (talk) 13:54, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Abaqa Khan

Hi Elonka - I was looking over the list at the FMA talkpage of articles needing cleanup and noticed that this one was still on the list, although you seem to have done a fair bit of work on it. I admit I haven't read through it thoroughly, but it seemed ok at a glance - does it still need work? Kafka Liz (talk) 19:10, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Certain sections could definitely still use expansion, as it's very Crusader-centric, with very little information about everything else in Abaqa's reign, such as his wars with other Mongols. If you have any information on those topics to help balance things out, that would be great. Otherwise, if you're happy with it, go ahead and cross it off The List. :) --Elonka 19:15, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I doubt I'll be able to add anything strictly on the Mongols -- they're more in Aramgar's line. I'll check it over though. Thanks. :) Kafka Liz (talk) 19:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Lomis

Please could you have a look at this guy, he is voilating WP:STALK by following me to different articles to continue a dipute, strictly against Misplaced Pages policy. Here he moved sourced information blanking 75% of the article. I even tried to warn him about blanking articles and stalking, but he just removed it. Naturally, I'm just here to contribute to articles, not to have a stalker, so if you could advise me how to deal with his "unwanted devotions" that would be good. Thanks. - Gennarous (talk) 20:44, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Lomis has stalked me to the article again and is destroying work, despite the fact that he is not even engaged in discussion on the talk. As thus I am treating his edits as purely vandalism and violations of WP:STALK, at least with Direktor we are discussing. Lomis is just hit and run trolling me, without any discussion. Can you understand how it would be difficult to remain civil when I have to deal with Lomis? - Gennarous (talk) 17:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Dirty Dancing

Hello, sorry to not respond sooner! Somehow, your message slipped under the radar on my talk page, and I found it when I was reviewing past discussions. I will do my best to take a look at your article and see what suggestions I can make for its improvement. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:45, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

re:Official caution

Very well, I'll try to be more courteous. My post did concern edits after all, but if a person obviously does not follow WP:NPOV am I not allowed to say so? I really don't think what I said constitutes a personal attack. --DIREKTOR 08:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

cryptology

I'm considering this as my graduate degree. I find the topic fascinating, as well as relevant. I have spent the last 14 hours hanging out in a cemetery, but still have no idea what you do. However, I have learned that people aren't really buried six feet under. It's more like 4.5 feet. Don't ask. But since you did, bail money, plz? the_undertow 08:57, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

• Wine or vodka?  :) --Elonka 09:10, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

All right, the gauntlet has been thrown. I'm driving to South Central to interview the Crips and understand their ology. You think yer badass? Give me time. With an IQ of 158, and completely lacking common sense, I'll best you. Somehow. the_undertow 09:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

I also forgot. Yer into decoding. Figure out why anyone would do this. Yeah. That's what I thought.

Merlot. the_undertow 09:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

(fans herself) Sorry, what were we talking about again? I got all flustered and forgot... --Elonka 09:58, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Have you ever seen the mating dance of the King Bird of Paradise? The choreography and the ritual display are very similar. ៛ Bielle (talk) 01:28, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

That video was actually based on a PBS special dealing with the King Bird of Paradise. I was quite adept at using the same lighting, mating ritual, as well as trying to capture the essence of the time-honored tradition. Or I was just drunk. Either way, I find the file to be a Cannes contender. the_undertow 07:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Rab concentration camp

Thanks for your cool-down effort in this article. My greatest respect how on you can stay so completely cool. I will do my best effort to keep this article from edit wars, even though this means stepping down a little for me :) lomis (talk) 13:05, 10 April 2008 (UTC) Oh, and one question: In case User:Gennarous continues his behavior (not talking about content, but the personal attacks), how much longer will it take until he gets blocked? I usually work a lot at the German Misplaced Pages and don't have much experience here on the English version, but on average, I'd say he would be blocked there by now. Where is the borderline here on the English Misplaced Pages? Best Regards, lomis (talk) 13:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Question

Do you think this merits some form of warning? Particularly but also last paragraph indicate some bad faith assumptions about editors of Polish nationality.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 19:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

I can't be bothered watching your contributions User/Piotrus, but apparently other editors think I should be watching my back --mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 09:28, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

KA's return?

The activity from these accounts make me suspicious, especially the "Grr" edit summary by the IP:

12.154.6.117 (talk · contribs)

M42380 (talk · contribs)

The two week block on IrishLass still hasn't expired so if this is her, it would be another block evasion right? -- Dougie WII (talk) 13:44, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Hungarian-Slovakian issues

If you are here to post about these disputes, please add the information to User talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian experiment. Thanks, Elonka 06:36, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Elonka, I wasn't involved in editing any of the articles mentioned there, so including me based on that doesn't really fit. Squash Racket (talk) 07:56, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Ah, don't worry, being listed there doesn't mean anything bad.  :) It's just a list, primarily for me, to help me keep track of which editors are familiar with the details of some section of this dispute. Don't worry, it doesn't mean that you're getting a warning or anything.  :) --Elonka 07:59, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Remainder of this thread moved to User talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian experiment. Please continue discussion, or bring up any new issues, there. --Elonka 22:26, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

St. Louis?

St. Louis resident, huh? What part? I lived in University City, right off of Delmar, for about six months and I still do a few shifts each month on Z107-7. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 12:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Arbitration (wow, it's good to have jugdes with full power who can exterminate anybody they wish)

You know, a friend of mine who's studying history and Hungarian at a university in Bratislava told me that her professors just hate when someone dares to use Misplaced Pages as a source (especially for history). Looks like I've got a first-hand proof of the reason of their rage against Misplaced Pages..... CoolKoon (talk) 14:16, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Any college professor would (and should) be wary of students using any encyclopedia article as a source. The nice thing about Misplaced Pages over other encyclopedias is that we encourage/require the use of verifiable, reliable sources. Misplaced Pages is a good place to start looking for sources and, possibly, get an overview of a situation. The whole point of college is to get students to learn to think for themselves and learn to learn, which you would absolutely fail to do were you to use Misplaced Pages as a thesis-generating machine. Industry-specific experience and skills are a secondary concern. ~Kylu (u|t) 19:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually I'm using Misplaced Pages for learning. Of course my field of study has nothing to do with any kind of history whatsoever. But I keep being amazed that how many things can I learn from wikipedia especially in natural sciences. And if I look for articles regarding electrical engineering, the amount of knowledge contained in Misplaced Pages is absolutely astonishing.

However my point was (and still it is) that most of the articles regarding history (especially the ones about Central and Southeastern Europe) are heavily biased. And the most unfortunate thing is that trying to be objective creates a wave of complains, arguments, revert wars, flamewars etc. CoolKoon (talk) 17:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

You might enjoy this essay, Madness, by a professor in Canada who assigned his students a task to create high-quality articles on Misplaced Pages. If they could get the article to featured status, they got a good grade! They improved several articles, at least two of which got to FA. I would love to see more professors do this, in all fields.  :) --Elonka 14:30, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Original Research

In the earthquake talk page you had mentioned avoiding original research naming this the highest magnitude quake in Illinois history. I am requesting a clarification. If USGS provides a list of the major quakes in Illinois, and 5.4 was the highest, is it considered original research to name this quake as the highest magnitude in Illinois history? I understand the point is moot since the quake was downgraded to 5.2, but if it were 5.4, and that were the highest, then I don't understand why this would be OR. From what I understand, OR would be using the facts to push an agenda - not just stating something that would be obvious from reading the list of quakes. Thanks. Tool2Die4 (talk) 15:56, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

It's usually best to be cautious with superlative claims, per WP:REDFLAG. For us to say that something was "the biggest", it would be better to actually have a source that says, "it is the biggest", rather than providing a source which listed others, and then drawing an inference from that. I mean, it's probably common sense, but suppose that USGS list hadn't been updated in a couple years? There might have been a more recent quake that we didn't know about (perhaps it was deeper and not as widespread), in which case it would not have been correct for us to make the leap. But I agree it's a subtle point. :) --Elonka 16:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Rab concentration camp

Elonka, thank you for the time you devoted to help us to resolve the issues that one single user had with this article. That your time was well spent and your interventions well judged is obviously evidenced by the stability that has now returned to this article. I'd like to point out that the article is now much better than it was a month ago, so it's a matter of fact that the whole business has been beneficial. Well done again. If I may make a small suggestion regarding your future interventions, it is that you really have to familiarise yourself with the topic. Spend some time reading the article and the references supporting it. But apart from that minor comment, it's clearly a feather in your cap that we have all been able to move along and attend to other Wiki matters. Thanks again, AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 21:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Fembot...

Found this on my talk page today...thought you might get a kick out of it....not sure why it was posted on my talk page....here. Lazulilasher (talk) 17:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Book

Thanks for the note - it's good to hear that an experienced editor actually enjoys reading it. If you come across anything that seems puzzling, wrong, or missing, please don't hesitate to drop me a note - I expect to have several opportunities to update the book this year, and am always looking for improvements. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:01, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Notes - that's great; I'm already looking forward to your comments. As for sales, I actually have no idea - I don't even know the size of the first printing. And I won't get a royalty statement for the period ending March 31st until possibly as late as the end of June. (There also has been talk of a second printing; I'm kind of hoping that happens relatively soon, given the number of things that have changed - eight skins, not seven; the "+" tab is now "new section", and so on. (O'Reilly pitched the book as print-on-demand, I've been told, so that it would always be up-to-date, but the major book sellers wouldn't buy that, literally.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:28, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Hungary/Slovakia experiment

Thanks for helping clear that out but between the ANI page, the Wikiquitte complaint, the headaches at Talk:Hedvig Malina, this archived mess at my talk page (seems like your work is done but if not, you should review it), I'm just done with it. The last article I helped out on resulted in more insanity than this one. Reviewed everything quickly, but every single comment from me seems to result in the same gigantic argument again and again (mostly from one particular individual). I'll comment if something seems really out there. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 03:18, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar of Peace from Hexagon1

		The Barnstar of Peace
		Elonka, for your work in mediating the Hungarian and Slovak communities in their dispute, and for your remarkable patience, I award you the Barnstar of Peace. +Hexagon1 14:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

I've been watching the developments at User_talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian_experiment with interest, and even though I am too busy edit-warring elsewhere to edit-war over the Hungarian-Slovak dispute, I have been most impressed by your efforts towards mediation and a peaceful solution. So, here's a little something for your trouble, if you want it. Thank you! +Hexagon1 14:14, 23 April 2008 (UTC)