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Please be aware that this is the ''english wikipedia''. Hence, people should be referred to by the names common in the english-speaking world, if they differ from their polish name. This list suffers from the fact that the editors seem to prefer the polish names. E.g., nobody uses Skłodowska for Marie Curie, I'm afraid. BTW, the 'mixed heritage' given for 'fairness and accuracy' appears to be a quite random thing... Please be aware that this is the ''english wikipedia''. Hence, people should be referred to by the names common in the english-speaking world, if they differ from their polish name. This list suffers from the fact that the editors seem to prefer the polish names. E.g., nobody uses Skłodowska for Marie Curie, I'm afraid. BTW, the 'mixed heritage' given for 'fairness and accuracy' appears to be a quite random thing...
--] (]) 16:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC) --] (]) 16:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

::I don't know this young man, I wish I would. His comments speak from the heart. Marie Curie was polish but Copernikus' heritage is not as clear and many scholars argue that he was in fact of German descent. This really annoys me because some people here believe that they help our polish heritage by stating Copernikus was a Pole while forgetting that this is very much disputed. You people actually hurt our polish heritage because readers get the impression we are stupid nationalists.


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  • Leon Czolgosz... was reportedly Czech, and therefore incorrectly labeled in Polish criminals.

Czolgosz' identity seems confusing because of the remark made by Isaac Taylor in 1901 about the pronounciation of the double consonant in his name similar to the word Czech. Czolgosz was born American though. The article Leon Frank Czolgosz does not provide verifiable information about his background except for a Misplaced Pages mirror called experts.about.com which ought to be deleted. I'm removing his name from the list. --Poeticbent  talk  06:03, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

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Please be aware that this is the english wikipedia. Hence, people should be referred to by the names common in the english-speaking world, if they differ from their polish name. This list suffers from the fact that the editors seem to prefer the polish names. E.g., nobody uses Skłodowska for Marie Curie, I'm afraid. BTW, the 'mixed heritage' given for 'fairness and accuracy' appears to be a quite random thing... --Dagox (talk) 16:38, 23 April 2008 (UTC)


Deletion

Of that list was proposed here. I strongly support getting rid of this mess, and replacing it with User:Piotrus/List of Poles. Criteria for inclusion in our list shoul be inclusion by a verfiable major publication, and honestly I'd just limit ourselves to Polski Słownik Biograficzny. Otherwise this list will be just a list equivalent of a Category:Polish people.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  20:24, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Roman Polanski

Anyone think it is a bit of a stretch to have the French-born Jewish-Polish-American Polanski be a representative of Poles in Entertainment? Perhaps we could get someone more representative if an image is necessary at all. LeszekB 10:47, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Polanski lived in Poland for more than 20 years, he speaks Polish, and obtained his education in Łódź before emigrating. I'd like to know what other editors think. Nevertheless, the image seems hardly representative of the entire subsection lacking comparable photographs except for the one of Wajda. I'm removing it as per comment by User:LeszekB. --Poeticbent  talk  15:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. He's Polish for sure, but just thinking we might be aiming too Americano with his image there. LeszekB 04:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Nicolaus Copernicus

Nothing speaks of Copernicus’ convictions as clearly as the fact that, according to Misplaced Pages's own article: “During the war between the Teutonic Order and the Kingdom of Poland (1519-24), Copernicus, at the head of royal troops, successfully defended Allenstein (Olsztyn) besieged by the forces of Albert of Brandenburg. – To claim, that he wasn’t Polish enough, would be like turning back (or at least trying to jam) the wheels of history. The recent revert war seems most puzzling to me under such circumstances. --Poeticbent  talk  04:35, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Interesting argument. If taking part in the power struggles between the Order, cities, church and king qualifies Copernicus as Pole, many of the military figures of List_of_Poles#Military have to be moved to others lists. Go ahead, do so then. -- Matthead      O       17:14, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
(Personal attack toward Poeticbent removed)
Copernicus was born and lived in Land of Prussia, Latin Terra Prussiae, as it is recorded in old records, including his own handwriting, where he describes his homeland as Prussia. Copernicus was a man of the church, a canon, Domherr. Churchmen themselves were forbidden to arm. The citizens of Allenstein (or Allensteyn as he himself wrote it in his records) protected their city and they protected the independence of the Prince-Bishopric of Ermland or Warmia, which was one of the for prince-bishoprics of Prussia. Ainan 6-2-2007 (The preceeding unlinked comment as of 05:51, 3 June 2007 was added by User:75.8.225.41)

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Split?

I originally nominated this for deletion at AFD, but quickly withdrew the nomination. This list should probably be split into smaller lists based on the subsections within it. --Coredesat 10:06, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Why split "List of Poles" and not "List of French people" or any of the dozens of other national lists found in "Category:Lists of people by nationality"? Nihil novi 19:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Note that list of Americans has been split already. Kappa 02:43, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Please read further comments on this at Portal_talk:Poland/Poland-related_Wikipedia_notice_board#List_of_Poles. Thanks. --Poeticbent talk 03:01, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Which of the other 157 countries or ethnicities in "Category:Lists of people by nationality" have followed the American example?
There already is a "Category:Lists of Polish people" and a "Category:Polish people." There hardly seems need for a third list of lists of Polish people.
Nihil novi 04:23, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Move "Sports"

I suggest that the huge "Sports" section be moved to the end of the article. It seems to take forever to get past it to more interesting sections. Nihil novi (talk) 22:30, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Dividing some "Sports" subsections into more columns is a good idea. Nihil novi (talk) 00:21, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Looks much better now with the sportsmen condensed, but I would still move them after the kings, politicians, criminals and fictional characters. Nihil novi (talk) 03:32, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Go right ahead. --Poeticbent talk 05:51, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm missing the technical knowledge to do it efficiently. Perhaps someone could actually do it, who does possess the expertise? Nihil novi (talk) 07:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 Done --Poeticbent talk 07:22, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you! The article looks much better now. Nihil novi (talk) 08:43, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

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Nicolaus Copernicus

Why is Nicolaus Copernicus listed on List of Poles? I have a great respect for all nationality. And, I asked the question in good faith. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 09:46, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Because if he was any nationality, he was a Pole. Check any non-Wiki reference :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 11:31, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
Well, according to many references, Copernicus was a Pole. Many call him Polish astronomer. However, some call him a German. Nicolaus Copernicus was rated as 108th greatest German by Unsere Besten. Masterpiece2000 (talk) 08:54, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
If the Germans had been really serious about him, they would have made him number one. Nihil novi (talk) 08:57, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
If the Germans suddenly vote Martin Luther King the 216th greatest German, will he automatically become a German and ceise being American? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.226.62.3 (talk) 18:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

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