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SqueakBox - I appreciate your contributions on the Stalking proposal, however for reasons stated on the talk page I believe I am on solid ground in stating that Uninvited Company's addition of the "rejected" tag was severely premature. According to the provisions accompanying this tag, a demonstrated lack of consensus occurs when an impass is reached involving three editors. While there has certainly been opposition voiced on this article's talk page to portions of the proposal, I have seen no evidence of an editing impass and indeed several editors who have stated objections to the proposal (yourself included) have made agreeable edits and substantial contributions toward fixing the portions of the proposal that are objectionable. It would be highly premature to declare the policy "rejected" after only 4 days time for consideration and while edits and discussions of the sort described are still ongoing, and I believe that in the case of Uninvited Company's decision to add this tag his purpose was nothing more than to "kill" the proposal for personal reasons while it was still under consideration. I am not a fan of revert warring unless absolutely necessary, but I strongly feel that additional work remains to be done on this proposal. If you will agree and restore the proposal listing until a time arises when either consensus is reached or a genuine impass prevents further work, I will not hold any 3RR complaints and will not revert war on that subject. Otherwise I will consider filing an RfC against Uninvited Company for user behavior regarding the inappropriate application of this tag. I appreciate your contributions to date and consider them generally beneficial even though we both originally viewed the issue from very different perspectives, and hope this can continue. Regards. ] 23:07, 19 August 2005 (UTC) SqueakBox - I appreciate your contributions on the Stalking proposal, however for reasons stated on the talk page I believe I am on solid ground in stating that Uninvited Company's addition of the "rejected" tag was severely premature. According to the provisions accompanying this tag, a demonstrated lack of consensus occurs when an impass is reached involving three editors. While there has certainly been opposition voiced on this article's talk page to portions of the proposal, I have seen no evidence of an editing impass and indeed several editors who have stated objections to the proposal (yourself included) have made agreeable edits and substantial contributions toward fixing the portions of the proposal that are objectionable. It would be highly premature to declare the policy "rejected" after only 4 days time for consideration and while edits and discussions of the sort described are still ongoing, and I believe that in the case of Uninvited Company's decision to add this tag his purpose was nothing more than to "kill" the proposal for personal reasons while it was still under consideration. I am not a fan of revert warring unless absolutely necessary, but I strongly feel that additional work remains to be done on this proposal. If you will agree and restore the proposal listing until a time arises when either consensus is reached or a genuine impass prevents further work, I will not hold any 3RR complaints and will not revert war on that subject. Otherwise I will consider filing an RfC against Uninvited Company for user behavior regarding the inappropriate application of this tag. I appreciate your contributions to date and consider them generally beneficial even though we both originally viewed the issue from very different perspectives, and hope this can continue. Regards. ] 23:07, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

:Thanks for doing this the proper way by poll. I've also given some thought to possible alternatives for a guideline and wanted to get your input. Rather than having an existing guideline that spells everything out (which seems to be the source of most of the disputes) I posted an alternative bare-bones version that starts only with the Arbcom's official definition of wikistalking at ] and links to the cases. Two possible alternatives on approaching this type of revision also seem to exist. (1) We could simply make the Arbcom definition itself the only guideline material and then say nothing more interpreting it or applying it. (2)We could start from the definition and build any interpretation of it from the ground up, rather than starting with a full proposal. Please take a look and post your thoughts on the revision talk page. Thanks. ] 23:40, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

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Boddhi is the best always and forever
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Shakti the shit cat

Please note I have moved my SqueakBox user talk page here, and secured the account, to avoid the disruptive effect of the yellow message box in my editing. I will get messages just as quickly here, SqueakBox 17:49, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

Contribs

Adminship long overdue

Squeakbox, the title says it all. You definitely have done more of your share of vandalism fighting. Please let me know if you are interested in a nomination. Apologies if the edit to the archive format at the top of the page was unwelcome — feel free to revert. Fawcett5 01:17, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Allright, it has been setup — please complete the nomination here. Cheers, Fawcett5 01:49, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

SqueakBox, please accept my apologies for unintentionally dragging you into that unfortunate situation. I think that the treatment you received was unjust. You have frequently dealt with the worst sort of trolls, POV pushers, and users with bizarre agendas. Under such circumstances anybody with an 8000 edit history will have one or two moments of which they are not too proud. And I simply couldn't believe the whole Batpedia thing and the ridiculous accusations of racism. In any case, I'm sincerely sorry. Fawcett5 05:11, 30 July 2005 (UTC)


Talk:Buckinghamshire

I apologise if my response to you on the above page was a little terse. -- Francs2000 | Talk File:Uk flag large.png 19:45, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Honduras

with your moves on departments you are creating double redirects. doon't do this in the future Tobias Conradi (Talk) 21:33, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

don't do what
as said above : creating double redirects
breaking WP = breaking the ability of a reader to read without further clicking an aricle when clicking on a link that finally ends up in double redirect.

Talk:Departments of Honduras Cortes now has double redirects again. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 22:11, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

if creating entries such as "El Porvenir" it might be usefull to check Special:Whatlinkshere/El_Porvenir Yielding that there is also El Porvenir in Chiapas and in Panama. Spanish placenames are very likely to produce disambiguation pages. I seconded your request for "Honduras-geo-stub". I think in the future every country will get a <countryname>-geo-stub. I would also support to create more of this stub-cats in advance, to avoid restubbing needs. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 09:15, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

How many municipalities of Honduras do exist? You can answer it there if you know. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 09:18, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Holy S**t Batman!

Hi! I have the task of going through Category:Geography stubs once a week, taking out the ten or so new stubs that haven't been correctly stubbed and putting them in their appropriate places. Ten a week, normally. Only in the last 24 hours 212 new ones have arrives, all of which should be stubbed with {{CentralAm-geo-stub}}. Are you trying to give me a hernia? I mean, good work on the stub creation, but... Grutness...wha? 23:18, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

S'alright - it was just a bit of a shock... leave it for a day or two - I'm trying to push through a separate Honduras-geo-stub at WP:WSS. With about 250 stubs for that country now there should be no real problem with it, and it will save re-stubbing them if it does. Grutness...wha? 23:25, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. As I said above, a new Honduras-geo-stub is likely to be made as a result of the suddent population increase in that category. I'll let you know when it gets made, so you cannuse it on any new articles you make! :) Grutness...wha? 00:55, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

IP address

Perhaps some reasonably useful collection of websites could be established when the page is protected and then enforced. I am finding it bit absurd such page is /so much/ spammed - it cannot THAT financially atrractive to sell IP lookup. (Of my 2,500 pages on watch this got spammed most.) Pavel Vozenilek 01:36, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

You wrote: are mostly wiki mirrors
I am out of context for this link. Pavel Vozenilek 17:28, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
I see but this effect is possibly only imaginary. If I remember correctly Misplaced Pages implemented nofollow atttribute to eliminate this effect. Pavel Vozenilek 20:23, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Guatemala

How well do you know Guatemala? I'm asking because of your proposed move. Picking Escuintla as an example, it's currently at Escuintla Department. You said it should be moved to "Escuintla department". I have a question - is it better to move it to that, or to "Escuintla"? Please let me know on my talk page, I'm trying to get this as accurate as possible. Thanks! --Golbez 03:19, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Edit summary

Hello. Please remember to always provide an edit summary. Thanks and happy edits. Alphax  16:01, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Bot flag?

Are you adding those Central American places using a bot? If so, how about requesting a bot flag? I currently feel you are flooding the new pages list a bit. --IByte 22:33, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

No I am not. I am just using tabs and organisation. Much as I would like to learn about bots I don't know how to use them, SqueakBox 22:36, August 6, 2005 (UTC)

Geo-stubs

Hi - there are now separate stub templates for Honduras and Guatemala: {{Honduras-geo-stub}} and {{Guatemala-geo-stub}}. The speed with which you're making Central American stubs, we'll probably need some for other coutries in the region soon, too! Grutness...wha? 02:16, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

ach!

why do I have phreaks obsessed with me? Its really very creepy. This never happens in real life, only on the disgusting internet... People need to find a way to kill each onther online, it would solve so many problems. Sorry for the rant, and thanks for your input, let me know if I can help you sometime. Cheers, ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸ 05:35, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Bot discussion

Having read the bot page link you sent me it may be that my editing style brings up similar issues to those of bot users; server strain, unchecked results (ie I don't check everyone), and perhaps this issue should be brought up somewhere, as I know 16 edits a min is fast even for just 2 or 3 mins. Some of the Colombia departments contain 120+ municipalities, and the way I do it (for efficiency) I set everything up and then push the edit buttons as the final task. So you may want to flag this somewhere, SqueakBox 16:49, August 9, 2005 (UTC)

In response to your message, I suggest discussing concerns about the bot-like impacts of your edits at Misplaced Pages talk:Bots. (I cannot set flags for you as I am not myself an admin or steward.) If you want help with bot development/usage, Misplaced Pages:Bot requests appears to be the right place to ask.

Func's RfA :)

SqueakBox, thank you for your support in my adminship, greatly appreciated! :)

Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make.

Functce,  ) 19:14, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Re LCA article

I am seeing some nice work in Legalise Cannabis Alliance. It is looking now like a much improved article. Laurel Bush 17:53, 12 August 2005 (UTC).


Yooo! Squeak!

Great job on the cannabis related articles man. That thing is correct to a T, and in part thanks to you. I'm pretty baked righ now as you may be able to tell Lol. Tell me, when was your first experience with weed like? I do quite a few edits myself, satisfying yet tough is improving wikipedia...less' your a walking encyclopedia yourself, heheh. Peace out! - User:D-Katana

Wow so you smoked with the earl of Beaconsfield, thats cool...how many stoners can say they've done that!? Well..all the earl's mates i suppose o_O- User:D-Katana

honduras dept talk

I would like to delete our talk in the beginning of Talk:Departments of Honduras - it's not important for the departments itself. But maybe you want to preserve it. saludos Tobias Conradi (Talk) 15:35, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Re: WP:AN/3RR

As you saw, my only answer was on Beltch's page. I have apologized. It was a regretable but recoverable mistake--Tznkai 15:55, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

I withdrew for the reasons I stated, and for no other. Withdrawing in face of legitimate crititicsm is a sign that you can't take the criticism, not that you're aware ofit.
As for this mistake, I explained it, and wanted that editor to restore it. Maybe he/she changed minds, reconsidered, wanted to do it themselves, etc. I don't like taking a choice out of someone else's hands. You may disagree with how I handled it, and that may be correct, but understand I did it because I thought it was best he/she handled it themselves.--Tznkai 16:05, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
I should've left a note asking if Beltch wanted me to restore it, or to do it himself, yes. Atleast thats how I think I could've handled the situation better. still, when mistakes do happen, other person's "restorations" can sometimes cause accidental screw ups, atleast in my opinion.--Tznkai 16:27, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

redirect to your user page

dear squeakbox, the current redirect to your user page is in my opinion confusing. The only page linking to him is Janko group and obviously it intends to link to a non-existing page about mathematician (who knows, perhaps you and he are the same person?). If you do not mind I will remove the redirect so that the invitation to write an article on mathematician weiss will be up at that page again. (i am not qualified to write anything about him). kind regards, --Lenthe 11:44, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Actually, the redirect has to be deleted because it violates Misplaced Pages policy (See Misplaced Pages:Redirects for deletion#When_should_we_delete_a_redirect?, rule 5). Such redirects do not belong in the main namespace. --IByte 14:59, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Buckinghamshire

You have contributed to Buckinghamshire in the past, so may I invite you to contribute to a dispute that is breaking out. Some guy who is obsessing about the traditional counties has plonked a great big infobox in the article. It's not useless stuff, but in my view it belongs in History of Buckinghamshire, not in the current main article. But I'll leave you to make your own mind up. Have a look and contribute to talk:Buckinghamshire, please. --Concrete Cowboy 23:07, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Stalking

Re: your response on my talk page. I am currently attempting to gather Misplaced Pages community input on how to develop a proposed wiki-stalking policy in light of a recent Arbcom decision making this a bannable offense. In order to get community input I simply did a search of user pages to find places where wiki-stalking is mentioned. The message I posted is a generic notice for participation that is identical to the one I sent to dozens of other editors and was made without taking any side in existing or previous disputes about stalking, so no - this isn't an attempt to stir up any of your old enemies. It's just a notice about the proposal. I apologize if you construed it as something else, but it was not intended to be. Please review Misplaced Pages:Assume good faith. Rangerdude 19:37, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

I just removed it from Agwiii's page. Rangerdude 19:46, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Reverts

SqueakBox - I appreciate your contributions on the Stalking proposal, however for reasons stated on the talk page I believe I am on solid ground in stating that Uninvited Company's addition of the "rejected" tag was severely premature. According to the provisions accompanying this tag, a demonstrated lack of consensus occurs when an impass is reached involving three editors. While there has certainly been opposition voiced on this article's talk page to portions of the proposal, I have seen no evidence of an editing impass and indeed several editors who have stated objections to the proposal (yourself included) have made agreeable edits and substantial contributions toward fixing the portions of the proposal that are objectionable. It would be highly premature to declare the policy "rejected" after only 4 days time for consideration and while edits and discussions of the sort described are still ongoing, and I believe that in the case of Uninvited Company's decision to add this tag his purpose was nothing more than to "kill" the proposal for personal reasons while it was still under consideration. I am not a fan of revert warring unless absolutely necessary, but I strongly feel that additional work remains to be done on this proposal. If you will agree and restore the proposal listing until a time arises when either consensus is reached or a genuine impass prevents further work, I will not hold any 3RR complaints and will not revert war on that subject. Otherwise I will consider filing an RfC against Uninvited Company for user behavior regarding the inappropriate application of this tag. I appreciate your contributions to date and consider them generally beneficial even though we both originally viewed the issue from very different perspectives, and hope this can continue. Regards. Rangerdude 23:07, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for doing this the proper way by poll. I've also given some thought to possible alternatives for a guideline and wanted to get your input. Rather than having an existing guideline that spells everything out (which seems to be the source of most of the disputes) I posted an alternative bare-bones version that starts only with the Arbcom's official definition of wikistalking at Wikipedia_talk:Stalking/Revision1 and links to the cases. Two possible alternatives on approaching this type of revision also seem to exist. (1) We could simply make the Arbcom definition itself the only guideline material and then say nothing more interpreting it or applying it. (2)We could start from the definition and build any interpretation of it from the ground up, rather than starting with a full proposal. Please take a look and post your thoughts on the revision talk page. Thanks. Rangerdude 23:40, 19 August 2005 (UTC)