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Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		Where can I begin? From the earliest time I can remember, you've been helping me out and being the epitome of a "Wiki-Friend". I think the first time we met was on Talk:Saxophone, where I was having some trouble with my first GA review; you came in with the second opinion. Since then, you nominated me for adminship (when yours comes along, provided I'm not out of the country for the Northern Hemisphere summer, I'll co-nom), reviewed three/four of my articles at GAN, contributed at the GAN, PR, and FAC for Gilberto Gil, my first FA attempt (which sadly didn't pass, tear...), and answered enumerable questions plus did some not-so-serious things. You certainly deserve this. Kakofonous (talk) 22:24, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

And, oh yeah, cê is done, I think. --Kakofonous (talk) 22:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh wow. That's awesome. I'm uberly humbled. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 23:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

And Daara J. P.S.: WP:200 already? That's just unreal... --Kakofonous (talk) 17:46, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

A bit, yeah. Looking at DJ now. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 23:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Adminship

I mean this in the best possible way - are you sure you want to be an admin? In my opinion you're an excellent contributor. Once adminship settles in much of your time may be diverted away from editing and towards blocking people and arguing with trolls, not fun at all. If you feel you've already given much/the majority of your expertise to wikipedia then this might be a natural evolution, but by the looks of it you still have plenty of input to give.

Also, (and i want to say this in the most unpatronising way), I notice from your user page that you're still quite young. Remember there is much to achieve in life outside of wikipedia. You may find adminship takes up even more of your time. Is this what you really want? And you seem like a pretty bright person: are you applying yourself as well to other things? For the record i'm also one of the younger wikipedians here.

Misplaced Pages is a noble project and i appreciate your contributions and enthusiasm. Maybe this is quite a heavy response to a nomination for admin: but make sure you make the most of yourself and the time you have.

Ps. It was neither my intention to patronise nor anger you, only to make you think a little. Cheers. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 15:22, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

You know H2O's a 'crat on commons already, right? — iridescent 15:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

It appears it's already too late then. ahh!!! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 17:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Sillyfolkboy, I do understand what you're saying. Something it (partially) comes down to is "are you sure you want to be an admin" - to be perfectly honest, I don't care. Worst comes to worse, I can keep contributing to the mainspace, but if I do pass, I can help out in other areas too. It's not a big deal, I just think I can help the project and the community a bit more. If they don't want me to help in that way, that's cool too. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 01:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Fair play. You know some people go troll hunting after adminship and it always ends in tears. I'm glad you're not one of them. Keep up the good mainspace contributions. Good luck with the RFA, though short of divine intervention i don't think luck will be a factor! Unofficial support: don't feel offended by my missing signature. Take care. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 22:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. I can't promise to predict how the future will turn out, but I've got no intentions of being SockHunter Waterman for now, at least. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 23:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:100 Malinaccier P. (talk) 16:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

My Qs

Thanks for the note. I'm really struggling with this. I'm going to ponder it for a few days and see if I can completely forget to come back to it in time. Assuming that I don't (completely forget), I'll possibly pop back. Maybe. Oh. Does that sound wishwashy? Oh gosh, is that the time? --Dweller (talk) 13:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I think that makes sense. :) Cheers mate. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 13:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

If all RfAs were this hard to call, I'd give up with them. I've amended my input. --Dweller (talk) 07:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Matthew's questions

Check your last answer - you've identified when it is appropriate, but the question is about when it is inappropriate to ban. Risker (talk) 14:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Oops.... misreading. Going to fix now. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 14:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey

Just a quick note to let you know that I elaborated a bit at your RfA on my comment there. I also wanted to say, given recent events, that I haven't had any on- or off-wiki contact with anyone regarding anything related to you or your RfA. It's sad to feel the need to say that. Canvassing people to oppose an RfA is just wrong, and I'm sorry that you're having to deal with it in yours. Anyhow, my opinion is just... my opinion; your RfA looks likely to succeed, so take it for whatever you believe it to be worth. Best of luck. MastCell  16:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks MastCell, appreciate the ping. The investigation into the canvassing is ongoing, I believe, but you say you weren't told and I believe you. We'll see what happens. I'll take your comments on board. Thanks and cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 23:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Dear God

There's still five days left. You holding up alrighty? Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 16:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Just wanted to add WOW!!!. SWik78 (talk • contribs) 17:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

RE The title: YES?Balloonman (talk) 19:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The FA-Team

Hi. There has been some discussion of how to improve the FA-Team's functioning. It's be grand if you could comment on the new suggested structure, and perhaps also look at our current proposals. Thanks. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 18:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I need to keep better tabs on that. Will look. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 23:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Getting people to notice

Hey there Water,

I did want to let you know that you are allowed to use {{Rfa-notice}} to announce your RfA to people... I mean, I'm starting to wonder if anybody knows that you are running.Balloonman (talk) 19:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

With 241+ comments, my guess is yes, people do know. Al Tally 19:33, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I thought the touch of sarcasm would be obvious... Balloonman (talk) 20:31, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Guess the humour part of my brain is switched off tonight. Hmm.Al Tally 20:33, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Not to mention I'm using that on my userpage as it is! :) dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 23:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Smirk!

Acalamari 23:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Lisa the Beauty Queen

I've left some comments at the article's subpage. Limetolime 00:24, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Oops, you're right. I think you forgot to do this though. :) dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 00:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Albambot

User:Albamhandae asked me to unblock Albambot based on Misplaced Pages:Bots/Requests for approval/Albambot 3. How much did you investigate this bot? Gimmetrow 03:16, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I did investigate; all seemed good and trial-worthy from where I stood. Have I missed something? dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 08:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

What about the two previous BRFAs, including the denial a couple weeks ago? Gimmetrow 20:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Good afternoon, sir.

Well, it's the afternoon SOMEWHERE. (In Japan, I believe). Anyways, does my support of your RFA mean less to you because it was solely because I have a strong distaste for your opposition? Sincerely, MessedRocker (talk) 03:35, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I really don't know what to make of it! (And yes, it's afternoon in Aus.) dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 08:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello Alex! I supported you! I hope your RfA will pass.

Alex, I wanted to contact you about a month ago. I know about your contributions. I saw your name when I was new. And, about a month ago, I wanted to contact you. The only problem was...your user name is difficult to remember! "Dihydrogen Monoxide"! Now, I will remember it! Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 04:09, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

User:Giggy makes for a quick, easy, and oft-cited redirect. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 08:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh! Thank you for the reply. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 08:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

The newz

Newsletter is almost done. It has a Nick Cave quote and everything. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:24, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Word. I'll probably send it out tomorrow unless you get it done in like, the next five minutes. Need my beauty sleep so one day I can get a Nick Cave mo. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 11:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Ok, it's ready for when you wake up! WesleyDodds (talk) 12:00, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

HBLL GA Review

Thank you very much for your review. I believe all issues have been addressed and the article is ready for your final review. Thank you! --Eustress (talk) 15:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Dodgy image

I think someone said you're on commons - surely this can't qualify for GNU release. It's derived from this or similar. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 18:34, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, you cannot declare a worked derived from a copyrighted work GNU even if you modify it, only the copyright owner can. _{1 != 2} 19:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

You're both right, and it's gone. (I thought for a moment I had uploaded it or something and that's why you were here... gah, I didn't need that stress! :) dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 03:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Dictionary

You don't seem to have stumbled across WP:WIKISPEAK yet. I don't know why, but I have a suspicion you may have a few offerings for it. — iridescent 19:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Trust me, I'm highly familiar with that page. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 03:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Jan Willem Spruyt

Hi, I addressed all the issues you brought forward in the article on Jan Willem Spruyt. Have a look. Michel Doortmont (talk) 22:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Awesome, I'll take a look. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 03:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Email

See your inbox. --Kakofonous (talk) 02:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Sighed and replied. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 03:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

My Apologies

I blew it... I shouldn't have nom'd ya... but I didn't want to stand in your way. Ultimately, I think you will be a great admin. I just felt that you should wait.---Balloonman 03:12, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Stay strong my friend

I cant imagine how you feel, you deserve better than this Bull sh*t. --— Realist (Come Speak To Me) 03:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I dunno, maybe I do. But thank you. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 03:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Indeed don't let this get you down. Al Tally 03:20, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

You will be an admin, despite this... thing. I voted in support because the community needs you, I stand by that more than ever after seeing your controlled reaction. --— Realist (Come Speak To Me) 03:24, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

		The Resilient Barnstar
		For keeping on keeping on, despite the problems that seem to keep coming your way, I, Al Tally award Dihydrogen Monoxide The Resilient Barnstar. Al Tally 03:25, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 03:32, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

HBLL

Looks like we've got everything! Wrad (talk) 03:19, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Yay! I'll take a look. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 03:24, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

No Problem

Keep showing your class while making your detractors look foolish. I would recommend that when someone attempts to recall you (and it's happened to me twice, so far, so don't think it can't happen) that you appoint a Neutral Clerk to determine the validity of the recall attempt (You've said that it's only based on your administrative actions, so if they continue down this road of smears, and try to recall you, a clerk can judge the validity of the whole thing. SirFozzie (talk) 04:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I've noted there that it will def. be someone neutral. I think my RfA's neutral section has plenty of available names! dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 04:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

*Sigh* Hang in there

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Dee Luong query

May I ask why you concurred with Traynor? I am having a hard time finding what is so swaying in his argument. –– Lid 06:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for getting me to take another look; I just realised I had missed something, and struck my comment. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 06:25, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

5th??

		Zen Garden Award for Infinite Patience
		The 5th time? Really? For that, I must give you this: The Zen Garden Award for Infinite Patience goes to Dihydrogen Monoxide as an editor who has shown extraordinary patience. Doczilla STOMP! 06:24, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Doczilla _STOMP! 06:24, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Heh, thanks. :) dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 06:25, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Alternative music newsletter

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 14 - May 2008

"I go to a fucking office and I write. I'm not one of these dickheads who opens a beer, high fives his mates and opens his mouth and shit pours out, which he then writes on a beer mat. It doesn't come easy."- Nick Cave Project news "Touch Me I'm Sick", Diorama (album) and Nine Inch Nails live performances reached featured article status in the past month! Well done to Indopug, Dihydrogen Monoxide, and Drewcifer3000. The discographies of Sonic Youth, The Libertines, Foo Fighters and Smoking Popes reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Drewcifer3000, Indopug, Tenacious D Fan and Teemu08. We collaborated on Superunknown, Supergrass, Kate Bush and Foo Fighters during the past month. During the month of May, The Killers, "Under the Bridge", Death Cab for Cutie, Bloc Party, Coldplay, Beck and Ten (Pearl Jam album) were promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Cocteau Twins - Treasure (1984).

New members Seraphim Whipp, Guitardude3600, Lunar Jesters, Kristmace, Freedom (song), TwentiethApril1986, JD554, Thom, and Sethward joined the alternative music fold during May. Editors User:WesleyDodds

You are receiving this newsletter because you have signed up for WikiProject Alternative music. If you wish to stop receiving this newsletter, or would like to receive it in a different form, add your name to the appropriate section here. This newsletter was delivered by the automated Giggabot (stop!) 07:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Mark Twain

Was it him who said his obituaries preceded him? I insist on privacy and you wont find anything on wikispace for a while - so get a job or something :) SatuSuro 08:41, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

This is why I can't wait. :) dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 08:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Watching all your washing in public dosnt exactly inspire any sense of going for it in any way at all :| SatuSuro 09:08, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

As for below ↓ the old chestnut of quantity vs quality comes to mind - it fits with Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)/FritzpollBot creating millions of new articles - millions of stubs aint gonna make the place any better :( - but I am sure you can - if you get there SatuSuro 11:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... I'm curious as to what the community thinks. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 01:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

RfA

Congrats, you're officially a record breaker. :) Highest number of supports in an RfA so far! :D PeterSymonds (talk) 09:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Woah! Good job. Rudget (Help?) 11:06, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Nice. ;-) CWii_{(Talk|Contribs)} 12:23, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow. I'd much prefer Phaedriel returning to this... dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 01:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Meetup

DHMO, you said you were interested in having a meetup sometime soon... I went to create a page but this was still there. Are you still up for it? Lankiveil 12:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC).

Yeah, I'm gonna get to that in a few days if E doesn't beat me. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 01:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Holy shit!

You actually beat Phaedriel's 2-year RFA support record! bibliomaniac15 19:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree totally with that =P Well done! WP:300 not impossible... weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 22:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I just wanted to leave a note of encouragement - your RfA has been unnecessarily controversial and stressful, especially with the recent drama involving Balloonman. I hope you do well. Nousernamesleft 22:45, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow. I'd much prefer Phaedriel returning to this... dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 01:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

WP:GAN for History of Vid. Games 7th gen

I've fixed those refs. Further explanation on talk page. Thanks! --haha169 (talk) 22:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC

Awesome, on ma way. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 01:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

OK, I admit it...

...My prediction was ever so slightly wrong. Remind me never to go into fortune-telling. — iridescent 22:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

You were close, give or take ~600% Hehe <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 23:34, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Irid, do you have any idea who much I'd prefer the count you predicted? :) dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 01:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

My summary of your RFA so far

I took the time to read pretty much all the whole thing as i'm sure you have. Just thought i'd give you my perspective on it:

• Firstly, I changed my "cool-guy-unofficial-support" to a real one. Secondly, you should see the oppose section of your RFA as an editor review of sorts. Having your flaws pointed out to you in public will surely irk you but also it can be a path to self improvement.
• The major oppose reason seems to be lack of maturity; run with that and ensure you're never too hasty, calling on other admins' opinions when controversy looms.
• The second big point seems to be lack of trust: trust is easily lost and hard to regain. I'm sure some people would still oppose per the GA thing if you'd applied in five years time. I think you've improved from this mistake but, at the risk of sounding unpopular, I'm sure there are some articles without FA or GA status that actually are better than some of their badged friends. Remember: the most important thing is that an article is improved, even if it fails a review.
• You are seen as keen for adminship. An adequate concession to this would be not to go tool crazy if you pass the RFA; avoiding blocking/unblocking where possible as this seems to be a key worry.
• Complaints of you over stating your achievements: whilst you should be proud of your work - try to let it speak for itself. (I will say however that these facts are bound to come up in RFAs and i've never seen you say "hi, I'm Dihydrogen '10 FA' Monoxide")
• Some seem to react badly to your sarcasm and humour. Be aware some people just will not like this or will see it as inappropriate, especially coming from a proposed admin. This does not mean there is no place for it :)
• Ignore the "white pride" furore, this is just an inflammatory topic and regardless of your original intentions the mere mention of this will cause friction. Similarly, stay away from "Armenian Genocide", "Intelligent Design", "Palestine", "Paedophilia" and any other topic that brings a heated crowd wherever it goes.

I hope my obvious, inane observations are of some interest to you. Otherwise: unlucky you. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 00:04, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

First of all, thank you for the support. Secondly, you're right, and I've been trying to look at it like that, without getting too hung up on it. It's only the internet. Thanks for the other comments, I think I agree with most, if not all, of them. I've probably got a lot of comments and critique to respond to, but I'd rather wait until after the RfA. I need a bit of time to reflect on it without having to watch for updates at the same time.

Anyway, thanks. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 01:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Well done

On your exemplary behaviour and responses to the drama exploding on your RfA. Good luck with whatever comes next, and the inevitable scrutiny on the actions you take for the next six months, whether admin or not! --Stephen 00:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. It's been a tough few days. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 01:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah hydro if you ever block me I'm taking you right to recall! But seriously... I wandered over here to let you know I replied on my talk page. Again, thanks for the compliment, although I would have to reject the blanket statement that I'd be better than you ever would... rather, that would be a sort of great goal to aim towards. I don't use userboxes, but that would be a cool one... "This user is better than DHMO, as certified by DHMO". :)) Don't know if I've piled on in regards to one thing though... I admire you for having to go through an RfA the likes of probably no one has really seen before. You are handling it well. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 02:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Well done, indeed, buddy. When you're online again, drop me a yahoo message. I have hilarity to share with you. Lara❤Love 04:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

My support

If you don't get it, nobody should. All the best to the editor with an extremely nice, and totally individual style, when dealing with very difficult subjects. You have my total support. :)--andreasegde (talk) 01:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm still trying to work out what my style is... :) dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 01:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Misplaced Pages:Requests for adminship/Dihydrogen Monoxide 3

(copied over from my talk page:) Yes, I saw. Thanks for that. I don't really want to get into much of a to-and-fro there. I'm no fan of wiki-drama, and there's enough of that already on that page. My concerns still stand, and perhaps the best thing is to suggest them to you as a piece of advice, whether your RfA passes or not. On Misplaced Pages (as in life), many restrictions can seem, at first sight or even after long reflection, random or arbitrary. On the whole, however, and notwithstanding WP:IAR, it is usually a good idea to stick to the agreements and commitments you have made, informally or formally, unless there is very good reason not to. This is true whether you are an admin or not. So, for what it's worth (and in the spirit of Sillyfolkboy's quite sensible comments on your talk page), that's my advice to you. Good luck, either way. I hope that the drama around your RfA isn't giving you too much stress. As others have said, I think in general you seem to be handling it very well. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 07:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Cite book

WesleyDodds asked me to add the editor' name to the citations I'd been adding for the British Hit Singles & Albums book. I tried doing that with {{cite book}}, but it still puts "in" in front of the editor's name even when the author fields aren't used. {{Citation}} does show the editor's name correctly which is why I changed to that template. Another ... um ... idiosyncrasy with {{cite book}} is that you have to type "Edition" yourself – a small thing, but it bugs me nonetheless. That said, I'm happy for you to have whichever template you prefer :) --JD554 (talk) 09:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Aah, wasn't aware of the differences. It's up to you - if it's better, go for it. I've reverted myself, thanks for your help! dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 09:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Reply

I did read your comments on the RfA talk page. Did you read mine? And Lara (one of your most ardent supporters) has already addressed what you just said on my talk page. The statements were as follows:

If DHMO withdrew it would be such a selfless and community first act that I would be awestruck. Having read the whole thing, and accompanying links (both on and off wiki), I would pose that it would never happen even without him saying it wouldn't. Beam 13:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree that a withdraw in this case would not be a slap to the face of supporters. It's turned into quite a circus. I think Alex would/will be successful in the end, but I also think withdrawing, not only at the urging of some opposers held in high regard in the community, but also in protest of the spectacle this has become, would be an honorable move. August was the original plan, and that will give enough time to address the constructive concerns raised by opposers. I am, however, steadfast in my support of DHMO and I stand behind whatever decision he makes, as I believe he takes to heart the concerns of the opposers and will address the issues with or without the mop, and I do not believe he is to blame for the way this RFA has turned out. Lara❤Love 15:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

She's right that you're not "to blame" about this RfA, but you could alleviate all of this, so easily. As I say it would be such an awesome thing. I promise you that at least half of the opposes would disappear, and your supporters could only love you more for such an admirable deed. Honestly if, as you just stated, you're worried "The drama would take place again." and that you'd "much rather just have them go as smoothly as possible" let me tell you that a self imposed 60 day period from this RfA would only HELP you. It would remove more than half of the drama, and all of my concerns. It would make your adminship the most legitimate adminship you could possibly have. With almost 100 opposes, I don't know if you being an admin can be called "smooth" or consensus. In fact I'd argue not.

Let me assure you that "waiting two months would give the impression of even more power hunger" is not true at all. It would show that you are not power hungry. As Lara states it can only help you. As any clear minded friend and supporter would tell you it can only help your adminship be legitimate. And if you are as reformed as you claim 30 days or 60 days should be no problem. Honestly, if this RfA goes through I don't see how you can feel like the community really supported it. And such an RfA not only puts your adminship into question it puts the whole freaking system into question. You could put those issues to rest by being selfless, and truly humble by self imposing a 30 day or 60 day break until the conclusion of the RfA.... I just know that this would be such an awesome thing that most of those opposes would disappear and of those half would turn to supports.

I want to AGF, but only your greed or frustration at not achieving this previously would prevent you from withdrawing. It can only benefit you to do so. But, I one day would want to be and admin, and with an almost guarantee of getting admin powers it would be a tough decision to withdraw at this point. I do understand that, but I hope I would be able to do it if I were in your position. Let me state that I understand if you don't, it's hard to give up such a thing as adminship when it's so close. But it would be for the better and as Lara states it would the utmost of an honorable thing to do. It could only prove the opposition (including me) that you are mature, and that you can be trusted. And how could you be power hungry if you were willing to wait 60 days for what would have been a guarantee of power? I truly hope you consider it. Beam 02:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I know it might not mean anything, but I would be eternally your admirer if you did such a thing. Seriously. Beam 02:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Beam, please do not take this as an attempt to belittle your contribution. It appears this is the very first RFA you have commented on in your 2.5 months with the project. It's extremely unfortunate that your first extensive exposure to this process has been with the single most atypical RfA in a very long time, and I am afraid you might be developing a very skewed perception of how incredibly abnormal this RfA is, and why your persistent advocacy of a specific action isn't helping matters for anyone. I personally find your comments about "greed or frustration at not achieving this previously" driving DHMO's request for adminship to be very insulting, not only to him, but to anyone who goes through the RfA process.

DHMO doesn't need more unsolicited advice from anyone on what he should/could/ought to do in this situation. If he needs a sounding board, he knows where to find it and whose opinions he values the most. It's important not to pressure him in any direction right now. Any decision that he makes is his alone, and all this noise from long-time colleagues and friends as well as new acquaintances isn't making the situation any easier for him. I think it's time for everyone to just back off and leave him alone unless called upon. Risker (talk) 02:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Right. I'm just glad I could present such a solution that would alleviate most of the reasonable concerns. And he approached me on my talk page, not the other way around. Beam 02:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I have just read your page, since you pointed it out. He approached you to follow up on your RfA comments about admin abuse. You gave him your opinion there about how he should withdraw. He gave you his thinking on your admin abuse comments, and thanked you for your opinion on withdrawing but made it clear that he did not intend to do that. You've given him your opinion now in multiple venues. Let's leave the guy alone to make his own decisions. He is the one whose wiki-life is under the microscope right now. Risker (talk) 03:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

You seem not to want to leave this alone. Let me say again that he asked me if I had read his comment on withdrawing. I had, and in return had commented (as shown here). Since he brought it up, and because I do think he can be a good admin eventually, I gave him my advice. Again, let's take your advice and leave him and this alone now, shall we? He has a lot to think about, and I hope he does consider my suggestion. I wish him all the luck in the world, it's a serious matter. Beam 03:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

In a perfect world, DHMO could withdrawal his RfA and come out looking like a hero and a Wikipatriot (my God... did I just actually say that?) but Misplaced Pages is by no means perfect. I understand though that your experience with RfA is decidedly minimal compared to a lot of the rest of us. There are some opposes that would cross over in two months, at least the more rational ones. But there are others (most I think) that would continue to oppose because their opposition has little to do with the facts and more to do with petty grudges and nonsense. And Beam, I have seen you invoke AGF no less than six times in the context of this RfA, and it always seems to be when you are doing anything but. I'm not slamming you, It just really cracked me up :). You will find that your cynicism toward the RfA process will creep in slowly and insidiously. I wish for a place where people would be chosen for adminship based on their qualifications and experience, and not have to go through the dog and pony show that RfA has become, but alas... Trusilver 05:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Good Faith is what a Good Editor sustains himself on. Also, I'll AGF and say you're AGF.... ;) Beam 11:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks everyone for your comments and advice. Beam, at this stage (as I said on your talk) I'm going to keep it going. We'll see what happens. Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 08:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Madonna reassessment

Hey could you check it out, make a decision/change a decision. Cheers. --— Realist (Come Speak To Me) 04:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, sure. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 08:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Have A Cocktail, or 12

<3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 05:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Heh. :) dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 08:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Hi DHMO, I wanted to thank you again for your nom of my RfA. I really do look forward to being able to work above and beyond what I've done in the past, and I intend to never disappoint. Thank you my friend, and I wish you continued luck on yours (congrats on WP:300, it is a testament to how many believe in you)! Take care. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 09:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks mate. You'll do better than I ever could, I'm sure. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 09:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Haha, doubt that. I'm timid when it comes to doing some of these things...I'm good for the minor, routine maintenance items. You'll be the one capable of wading into the middle of arguments and working to set them right. I'm reserved and don't make much of a splash; you stand out in the crowd with your knowledge and more vocal attitude, and can use that to the advantage of the situation at hand. I believe the site needs both types of personalities, for there is a never-ending spectrum of issues that will arise. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 09:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

You're good at humbling and I'm feeling humbled. :) dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 09:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

An issue at your RfA you'd best address

Hi Giggy. Per this East718 has made a statement that you have offered to, and then actually released, personal information and emails to him from a third party. I think you'd better address this issue at your RfA rather urgently when you get this message. Pedro :  Chat  13:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)