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	The '''gorilla''', the largest of the ]s, is a ground-dwelling ] that inhabits the ]s of central ]. There are two species of gorilla, both in the genus ''Gorilla''; each species has two subspecies.
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	Gorillas move about by ]. Males range in height from 1.65 m to 1.75 m, and in weight from 140 kg to 165 kg. Females are about half the weight of males.
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	] is 8 ½ months. There are typically 3–4 years between births. Infants stay with their mothers for 3–4 years. Females mature at 10–12 years (earlier in captivity); males 11–13 years, sometimes sooner if they assume leadership early. Lifespan is between 30–50 years. The ]'s Massa set the longevity record of 54 years at the time of his death.

			Kossack4Truth June 2 3RR:
	Gorillas are mainly ], eating fruits, leaves, and shoots.

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	Both species of gorilla are ], and have been subject to intense ] for a long time. Threats to gorilla survival include ] and the ] trade.

			Kossack4Truth May 20 3RR:
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	A '''silverback''' is an adult male gorilla, typically more than 12 years of age and named for the distinctive patch of silver hair on his back, and that has large canines that come with maturity. Blackbacks are sexually immature males of up to 11 years of age.

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	Silverbacks are the strong, dominant troop leaders. Each typically leads a troop of 5 to 30 gorillas and is the center of the troop's attention, making all the decisions, mediating conflicts, determining the movements of the group, leading the others to feeding sites and taking responsibility for the safety and well being of the troop.

			Fovean Author May 26 3RR:
	Males will slowly begin to leave their original troop when they are about 11 years old, travelling alone or with a group of other males for 2–5 years before being able to attract females to form a new group and start breeding. While infant gorillas normally stay with their mother for 3–4 years, silverbacks will care for weaned young orphans.

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	If challenged by a younger outside male, he will scream, beat his chest, shake broken-off branches at the intruder, bare his teeth then charge forward. If he is killed by disease, accident, fighting or poachers, the group will split up or be taken over in its entirety by a male descendant or even an unrelated male; there is a strong risk that a new male may kill the infants of the dead silverback.

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	Gorillas are closely related to humans and are considered highly intelligent. A few individuals in captivity have been taught a subset of ] (see ] for a discussion) such as ], also known for being the only animal known to keep one of another species as a pet. Koko has taken care of several companion cats over the years.

			#http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Barack_Obama&diff=216735290&oldid=216630064
	An interesting fact about the gorillas, is that they all share a single blood-type, B.
			#http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Barack_Obama&diff=prev&oldid=216742438

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			Accounts make identical edits on ], and nearly exclusively on that page, generally as soon as one reaches 3RR limit. When one ''is'' blocked, the other takes up the edit war. Kossack4Truth was recently blocked (for second time) for 3RR on that page, at which time Fovean Author restored the material Kossack4Truth was 3RR'd for.
	==Classification==
	] continue to explore the relationships between various gorilla populations. The most recent publication (''Primate Taxonomy'', ] ] ISBN 1-56098-872-X) lists two recognized ], with four ]:

			Kossack4Truth indicates on his/her user talk page that s/he is traveling today, and so allegedly unaffected by block. Traveling (if true) also makes it likely that s/he is using a different (temporary) IP address at that remote location.
	'''Gorilla gorilla''', ]
	* ''Gorilla gorilla gorilla'' ]
	* ''Gorilla gorilla diehli'' ]

			WorkerBee74 is a new account added June 1, that also edits exclusively on the Barack Obama (talk) page, and that "argues" for the positions of blocked Kossack4Truth and Fovean Author, including stating the intended poll votes of those blocked accounts.
	'''Gorilla beringei''', ]
	* ''Gorilla beringei beringei'', ]
	* ''Gorilla beringei graueri'', ]

			68.31.80.187 has only made edits supporting "polls" on ].
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			*:That IP editor, like Workerbee and Kossack4Truth coins a group insult for those objecting to disparaging information: this time the "Whitewash Brigade". ] (]) 06:41, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

			*WorkerBee74 seems fishy. Brand new account, in first edit creates userpage with"So how do I get started?". Yet a few edits later is fully in the fray, participating in polls and talking about BLP and the BLP noticeboard. Fast start indeed. ] (]) 20:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
	==Strength==
			*On the Obama campaign talk page Workerbee74 claims to invent term "Obama campaign volunteers" to describe people opposing insertion of derogatory material into Obama article, and repeats the term (and sometimes, "campaign workers") many times. Kossack4Truth takes the term as well. Both make many comments about wanting to include the term "unrepentant terrorist" in the Obama article in connection to ], and take up related causes with similar arguments in similar laguage. At the minimum, WorkerBee is a possible meatpuppet. Kossack4Truth also engaged in possible canvassing, and at a minimum widespread notifications, of people to participate in a a poll on how much about Bill Ayers to put into the Obama bio article. As vociferous participants in the vote (the vote has its own issues), if these are meatpuppets or sockpuppets this runs the risk of slanting and degrading an important article. ] (]) 20:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

			''Note'' - I have just notified the three accused accounts. In the future, if you start a sock puppet report you should give a courtesy notice to each accountholder, e.g. <nowiki>{{subst:socksuspectnotice\|1=Kossack4Truth}}</nowiki>.'' - ] (]) 23:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
	In many cultures gorillas have always been renowned for their strength. But exact strength of the gorilla is currently unknown. Some estimate it to be 10 times the strength of a man while some other sources say they are 27 times stronger than a man. These however are only estimations and have never been tested. Gorillas are stronger than they look, having significantly more muscle mass than a human pound for pound. Some people have used muscle count testing to estimate the gorilla's strength. ] used this technique to estimate an adult silverback male gorilla at 20 times the strength of a normal man, although this and the simian karate chop are likely instances of AFO's tendency to veer towards the absurd.

	Because gorillas are so naturally strong, it is estimated that a silverback male gorilla has the ability to kill a leopard with just one strike from its massive arms.However, even the relatively diminutive forest leopards have been known to prey on gorillas--evidence has been found indicating that even silverbacks sometimes fall victim to these cats. Further, no research has ever shown that gorillas use their arms to strike things particularly effectively or accurately. Gorillas remains have been found in leopard scat and gorillas have been observed with horrendous injuries received in conflicts with these cats--there are no known cases of the leopard having been killed or fatally injured by a gorilla. They are peace loving animals who rely on their great size, ferocious appearance, and threatening displays for their safety. Their strength is primarily used to break branches and aid them in consuming their vegetation diet.They've evolved to adapt to a life in areas nearly devoid of predators.Sadly,they may not be able to overcome the slaughter brought on them by one of their closest relatives, man.

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	==Gorillas in pop culture==
	* The gorilla suit is an eternally popular gag costume. On '']'' on ], a recurring character is ], who is actually a person wearing a cheap ] costume.
	* The ] of the ]'s ] is a man in a gorilla suit, called ].
	* The giant gorilla is a recurring theme in film, especially in the various incarnations of '']'' and '']''.
	* The namesake of the ] ] franchise is a gorilla.
	* Optimus Primal on ] and ] starts out as a regular gorilla. His beast modes get more technological in each incarnation.
	* The protagonist of Don Martin's Mad Magazine strip "National Gorilla-Suit Day" is ever beset by gorillas (or persons dressed as gorillas).
	* film ]
	* Pittsburg State University in Pittsburg, Kansas, is the only public college in the United States to have a gorilla as mascot.
	* Famed boarding school Phillips Academy, in Andover, Massachusetts, also has a gorilla as an informal mascot.
	* In the anime series "Sakigake! Cromartie High School," a gorilla is one of the more powerful delinquents at Cromartie High. He (she?) also plays backup guitar for "Freddie," a fellow student who may or may not be Freddie Mercury.
	* A well-known vacuum repair shop in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada, The Hilly Billy Vac Shack, has a gorilla-costumed mascot who waves at motorists, holding a sign saying "Hilly-Billy likes you!" In recent years, the owner has had legal problems because his roller-blading gorilla mascot was found to be disturbing traffic by waving at them from the road. "Is a gorilla on roller-skates considered a pedestrian?" was the question on the minds of the court.
	* A gorilla teaches the protagonist about the history of humanity and the effect "civilized" culture has had on other species in the award-winning novel ], written by ].

			: {{userlinks\|Fovean Author}} blocked 48 hrs. Next incidents of edit-warring could trigger escalating blocks. ] <small>]</small> 00:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
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			: In reply top comments made on user talk pages, the block was made on the basis of what seems a block evasion attempt. Even if a ] is performed and results are inconclusive, the block is warranted as the Fovean Author was making the exact same edit reversions, while the other user was blocked. ] <small>]</small> 01:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
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			I am frigging sick of this bs by Obama apologists to go after anyone who tries to put information that they don't like on the Obama entry, and the slavish attitude of admitted left-wing Misplaced Pages administrators who support them.

			If you think I'm a sock puppet, then look at my IP address, which is NOT the same as K4T's. Specifically, it is 64.45.236.60, which is static.
	== External links ==
	{{commons\|Gorilla}}
	* - Natural history, genetics, conservation and photos
	* - Gorilla factsheet with a video and photos
	* - information about gorillas
	* - conservation, facts and photos
	* - gorilla photos
	*, home of Koko the gorilla famous for her sign language skills
	* - Gorilla pictures and information
	* Includes trekking rules, the national parks, the tour operators and general gorilla tour tips.

			By definition, if K4T's account is IP blocked, then if I were a sock puppet of his, then I would be blocked as well, as I would have the same IP.
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			What I would like to see is some integrity on the part of ] (God forbid), and some penalty for the non-stop harassment that K4T, Andyvphil and I receive from ] and other Obama apologists.] (]) 02:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
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			While we're on the subject - ] was created on 14:42, 15 March 2008
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			My account was created before 00:45, 29 June 2007
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			So, I guess when he created my account as a sock puppet, he employed ]'s ]? ] (]) 03:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
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			:Blocking Fovean Author because he agrees with Kossak4Truth in reverting the deletions performed by the Obama fans is an arrogant abuse of admin power. As usual with those for whom an admin bit is an opportunity to stoke their ego by making unaccountable decisions, Jossi is uninterested in any evidence that he has fallen into error, and is prone to careless falsification of the record. As to the former, , -- Fovean is clearly not a sockpuppet of Kossack. And as to the latter, although Fovean was reported as a potential sock and Jossi says above that that was the reason he blocked him ("the block was made on the basis of what seems a block evasion attempt... the block is warranted as the Fovean Author was making the exact same edit reversions, while the other user was blocked") he is unwilling to put such a disprovable assertion into the block log, but instead falls back on the all-purpose unprovable and undisprovable "edit warring without actually violating 3RR", ignoring the requirement in policy, apparently a dead letter, that if editors are to be blocked "even if they have made three or fewer reverts in a 24 hour period" it is to be done only "'''if''' their behavior is '''clearly''' disruptive"(emphasis added). Arrogant and unaccountable admins have taken this language allowing exceptional action and converted it to a licence for arbitrary intervention in content disputes being carried on within the rules. If Fovean "edit warred" without 4/24 reverts then the editors who have deleted the material from the page and repeatedly reverted its restoration have also "edit warred". Yet only Fovean's block log has been stained, and it will be used against him in the future by admins equally incurious as to the facts but eager to boost their fagile egos by pissing on any non-admin "peon" handy. ] (]) 10:16, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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User:Kossack4Truth

Suspected sockpuppeteer

Kossack4Truth (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

Fovean Author (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
WorkerBee74 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
68.31.80.187 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

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LotLE×talk 00:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Evidence

Kossack4Truth June 2 3RR:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:3RRNB#User:Kossack4Truth_reported_by_71.130.194.163_.28talk.29_.28Result:_48_hour_block_.29

Kossack4Truth May 20 3RR:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive73#User:Kossack4Truth_reported_by_User:Lulu_of_the_Lotus-Eaters_.28Result:_blocked_24_hours.29

Fovean Author May 26 3RR:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive73#User:Fovean_Author_reported_by_User:Bobblehead_.28Result:_24_hour_block_.29

Fovean Author restoration of Kossack4Truth material after 3RR block of latter:

Comments

Accounts make identical edits on Barack Obama, and nearly exclusively on that page, generally as soon as one reaches 3RR limit. When one is blocked, the other takes up the edit war. Kossack4Truth was recently blocked (for second time) for 3RR on that page, at which time Fovean Author restored the material Kossack4Truth was 3RR'd for.

Kossack4Truth indicates on his/her user talk page that s/he is traveling today, and so allegedly unaffected by block. Traveling (if true) also makes it likely that s/he is using a different (temporary) IP address at that remote location. Traveling comment diff

WorkerBee74 is a new account added June 1, that also edits exclusively on the Barack Obama (talk) page, and that "argues" for the positions of blocked Kossack4Truth and Fovean Author, including stating the intended poll votes of those blocked accounts.

68.31.80.187 has only made edits supporting "polls" on Talk:Barack Obama.

That IP editor, like Workerbee and Kossack4Truth coins a group insult for those objecting to disparaging information: this time the "Whitewash Brigade". Wikidemo (talk) 06:41, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

WorkerBee74 seems fishy. Brand new account, in first edit creates userpage with"So how do I get started?". Yet a few edits later is fully in the fray, participating in polls and talking about BLP and the BLP noticeboard. Fast start indeed. Wikidemo (talk) 20:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
On the Obama campaign talk page Workerbee74 claims to invent term "Obama campaign volunteers" to describe people opposing insertion of derogatory material into Obama article, and repeats the term (and sometimes, "campaign workers") many times. Kossack4Truth takes the term as well. Both make many comments about wanting to include the term "unrepentant terrorist" in the Obama article in connection to William Ayers, and take up related causes with similar arguments in similar laguage. At the minimum, WorkerBee is a possible meatpuppet. Kossack4Truth also engaged in possible canvassing, and at a minimum widespread notifications, of people to participate in a a poll on how much about Bill Ayers to put into the Obama bio article. As vociferous participants in the vote (the vote has its own issues), if these are meatpuppets or sockpuppets this runs the risk of slanting and degrading an important article. Wikidemo (talk) 20:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Note - I have just notified the three accused accounts. In the future, if you start a sock puppet report you should give a courtesy notice to each accountholder, e.g. {{subst:socksuspectnotice|1=Kossack4Truth}}. - Wikidemo (talk) 23:32, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Conclusions

Fovean Author (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) blocked 48 hrs. Next incidents of edit-warring could trigger escalating blocks. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 00:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

In reply top comments made on user talk pages, the block was made on the basis of what seems a block evasion attempt. Even if a WP:RFCU is performed and results are inconclusive, the block is warranted as the Fovean Author was making the exact same edit reversions, while the other user was blocked. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 01:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I am frigging sick of this bs by Obama apologists to go after anyone who tries to put information that they don't like on the Obama entry, and the slavish attitude of admitted left-wing Misplaced Pages administrators who support them.

If you think I'm a sock puppet, then look at my IP address, which is NOT the same as K4T's. Specifically, it is 64.45.236.60, which is static.

By definition, if K4T's account is IP blocked, then if I were a sock puppet of his, then I would be blocked as well, as I would have the same IP.

What I would like to see is some integrity on the part of ≈ jossi ≈ (God forbid), and some penalty for the non-stop harassment that K4T, Andyvphil and I receive from talk and other Obama apologists.Fovean Author (talk) 02:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

While we're on the subject - Kossack4Truth was created on 14:42, 15 March 2008

My account was created before 00:45, 29 June 2007

So, I guess when he created my account as a sock puppet, he employed Mr. Peabody's Wayback Machine? Fovean Author (talk) 03:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Blocking Fovean Author because he agrees with Kossak4Truth in reverting the deletions performed by the Obama fans is an arrogant abuse of admin power. As usual with those for whom an admin bit is an opportunity to stoke their ego by making unaccountable decisions, Jossi is uninterested in any evidence that he has fallen into error, and is prone to careless falsification of the record. As to the former, , -- Fovean is clearly not a sockpuppet of Kossack. And as to the latter, although Fovean was reported as a potential sock and Jossi says above that that was the reason he blocked him ("the block was made on the basis of what seems a block evasion attempt... the block is warranted as the Fovean Author was making the exact same edit reversions, while the other user was blocked") he is unwilling to put such a disprovable assertion into the block log, but instead falls back on the all-purpose unprovable and undisprovable "edit warring without actually violating 3RR", ignoring the requirement in policy, apparently a dead letter, that if editors are to be blocked "even if they have made three or fewer reverts in a 24 hour period" it is to be done only "if their behavior is clearly disruptive"(emphasis added). Arrogant and unaccountable admins have taken this language allowing exceptional action and converted it to a licence for arbitrary intervention in content disputes being carried on within the rules. If Fovean "edit warred" without 4/24 reverts then the editors who have deleted the material from the page and repeatedly reverted its restoration have also "edit warred". Yet only Fovean's block log has been stained, and it will be used against him in the future by admins equally incurious as to the facts but eager to boost their fagile egos by pissing on any non-admin "peon" handy. Andyvphil (talk) 10:16, 8 June 2008 (UTC)