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Let's not dumb ] down -- this lists real allegations of a real crime; as such allegations is the best English word available. I can hardly stomach yet another wishy-washy "X and Y" type article title, and to label accusations of a crime as merely an analogy to another crime misses the point. A murder accusation isn't an analogy to what Cain did to Abel, is it? -- ]<sup>]</sup> 22:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC) | Let's not dumb ] down -- this lists real allegations of a real crime; as such allegations is the best English word available. I can hardly stomach yet another wishy-washy "X and Y" type article title, and to label accusations of a crime as merely an analogy to another crime misses the point. A murder accusation isn't an analogy to what Cain did to Abel, is it? -- ]<sup>]</sup> 22:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
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thank you for the message
My opinion of ChrisO is quite conflicted, and I am not prepared to judge just yet (i've only seen his name 3 or 4 times). However, I really appreciate your message. If you voice your concern regarding the article here, I'd be very glad:
http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Allegations_of_Israeli_apartheid_%288th_nomination%29Wikifan12345 (talk) 00:08, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Request
Hi 6SJ7. :) I'm an uninvolved admin currently tasked with examining a couple conflicts on Misplaced Pages, one of which involves ChrisO. I have seen that you have some concerns about his actions. I am not saying whether your opinion of him is or is not accurate, nor am I asking you to stop bringing up legitimate concerns about his behavior. However, could I please ask you to narrow the focus of where you are bringing them up, and perhaps try to use different language when you do it? For example, I've seen you bring up ChrisO's behavior at an AfD, and another unrelated user's talkpage. There is a fine line between "alerting about a problem" and "badmouthing another user", so I would like if you could use good judgment in where you talk about him. For example, in certain venues, you can (and should!) say that you disagree with his actions, or bring up cases where you feel that he may have misused admin tools. But it is probably not wise to accuse him, at a non-admin's talkpage, of being corrupt. You should also be cautious about where you use language which could be potentially construed as a personal attack. If you do have other issues with what he is doing, I encourage you to bring them to my talkpage, so that I can get a well-rounded picture of the situation. I give you my word that I'm going to do my best to look at the behavior of all users fairly, regardless of whether or not they are administrators. You can and should also express concerns directly (in a civil manner) at ChrisO's talkpage, preferably with diffs. Does this make sense? Thanks in advance for understanding, and if you have any questions, please let me know, --Elonka 19:21, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
- 6SJ7, I've not had any dealings with you for some time, so your personal attacks here and here were unprovoked, unnecessary and gratuitous. Will you retract them? -- ChrisO (talk) 20:32, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
BLP notification
Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Misplaced Pages about living persons. Thank you. -- ChrisO (talk) 16:06, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- ChrisO, please do not leave nonsense like this on my talk page. You are just trying to keep information you don't like out of the article, and you are using the guise of enforcing a policy to do it. See further comments at Talk:Charles Enderlin. 6SJ7 (talk) 16:32, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
- 6SJ7, you have a point, but so does ChrisO (though I think he's being a bit heavyhanded in how he's expressing it, especially in terms of his involved status and WP:DTTR). Anyway, in the case of the particular quote, it is probably best to keep it out of the article unless you can provide some really solid reliable sources that use it. The three that were used, are okay to source some information, but for a potential BLP issue, they are not the best ones to use. Can you find something in a more reputable source that uses the quote? --Elonka 16:34, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-06-17 Muhammad al-Durrah
Hello. I'm going to take over this MedCab case and try to work this stuff out. I posted in the talk page what I would like all participants to do to start. Hopefully this all works out well, I have zero intention of leaning towards any one side in this dispute, and I only care about getting it taken care of. Wizardman 18:51, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Notes
Any reason why you overlooked Jossi's "keep" !vote? -- ChrisO (talk) 19:52, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Please stop
There is no need to write little "notes" labeling each person who responded to the friendly note Chris left at their talk. He did not violate WP:CANVASS in leaving them, and your "notes" seem to be a way to attempt to besmirch those who arrived because of his neutrally-worded notification. Please quit writing them, as they're totally unnecessary. S. Dean Jameson 19:59, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
- No, they're not in violation. They're worded completely neutrally, and have brought !keeps as well as !deletes to the discussion. That seems to remove any possible appearance of impropriety, as far as I can tell. S. Dean Jameson 20:05, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
Allegations of
Let's not dumb this one down -- this lists real allegations of a real crime; as such allegations is the best English word available. I can hardly stomach yet another wishy-washy "X and Y" type article title, and to label accusations of a crime as merely an analogy to another crime misses the point. A murder accusation isn't an analogy to what Cain did to Abel, is it? -- Kendrick7 22:04, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
al-Durrah
Your recent comments at the talkpage, especially this one, were not helpful. In the future, especially at that article, please try to be more constructive? Thanks, Elonka 03:06, 13 July 2008 (UTC)