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The ''']''' and ''']''' ] are established rivals in ]. ]s and scholars of the two ]s frequently debate their comparative merits while ] compete to sell the rival products.<ref name="forbes">{{cite web|url=http://www.forbes.com/business/2005/05/16/cx_de_0516match.html|title=Star Wars Vs. Star Trek|accessdate=2007-09-13 |author=]|date=2005-05-18|publisher=]}}</ref> Media critics and analysts have compared and contrasted the two works in particular because of their great impact and many similarities. | ||
| ==Similarities== | |||
| Both franchises are set in ] and feature voyages and battles between ]s such as the ] and the ]. The universes contain many ]s and exotic ]s such as ] and ]. The ]s and ]s wield futuristic ] such as ]s and ]s. Their stories have grown from a small start to become a huge body of work comprising many ]s, ]s, ]s, ]s, ]s and ]s which make up billion of dollars of ] providing work and ] for billions of people.<ref name=HC>{{citation|url=http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=130035|title=Trekkers VS Lucasites|date=], ]|author=Richard Ho|work=]}}</ref> | |||
| ==Differences== | |||
| Star Wars has the naive style of a Saturday-morning serial presented for children by the cinemas of the mid 20th century and presents an elemental struggle between ].<ref name=HC/> ] was conceived in the style of the TV western '']'' but adopted an more adult tone, providing an idealistic, ] prospect of future human ]. The heroes of Star Wars such as ] and ] have a ] style while the protagonists of Star Trek such as ] and ] resolve their challenges with ] and ].<ref name=HC/> | |||
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| SF author and commentator ] contrasted the moral and political messages of the two works in his article ''"Star Wars" despots vs. "Star Trek" populists''.<ref>{{citation|publisher=Salon|author=David Brin|url=http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/feature/1999/06/15/brin_main|date=Jun 15, 1999|title="Star Wars" despots vs. "Star Trek" populists}}</ref> He characterised the philosophy of Star Wars as elitist and authoritarian, as compared with the more progressive and egalitarian spirit of Star Trek. ] defended his vision in the '']'' saying, "That's sort of why I say a benevolent despot is the ideal ruler. He can actually get things done."<ref>{{citation|url=http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9801E5D71E3EF932A15750C0A96F958260|publisher=New York Times|date=March 21, 1999|title='I'm a Cynic Who Has Hope for the Human Race'|author=Orville Schell interviewing George Lucas}}</ref> | |||
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| Many websites and at least one newsgroup are dedicated either to the active discussion of a theoretical or practical match-up between Star Wars and Star Trek, the collection of data regarding such a match-up, or both. Other sites, such as those serving as information databases for one franchise only, still play an active part or are at least frequently cited in such debates. Many Star Trek vs. Star Wars debates are not limited to the theoretical outcome of a battle between an ] and the '']'', but include more practical debates such as the quality of the films or books of one franchise compared to the other, or which franchise has had a larger influence upon contemporary science fiction or particular media. A far-ranging subtopic of these debates concerns the accuracy and objectivity of many of the materials and calculations often cited in these debates; for example, the accuracy and objectivity of the '']'' issue released for the movie '']'' is frequently debated and its "]" status contested because of ambiguous statements by LucasFilm Licensing concerning its canon status, its conflicting status with obsolete LucasFilm Licensing canon policy (which is still considered valid among many debaters) and the fact that it was composed and written by ], creator and curator of the site ''Star Wars Technical Commentaries,'' whom many believe to be heavily biased in favor of inflating firepower figures for a number of ''Star Wars'' weapons in order to maintain an edge in Star Wars vs. Star Trek debates. | Many websites and at least one newsgroup are dedicated either to the active discussion of a theoretical or practical match-up between Star Wars and Star Trek, the collection of data regarding such a match-up, or both. Other sites, such as those serving as information databases for one franchise only, still play an active part or are at least frequently cited in such debates. Many Star Trek vs. Star Wars debates are not limited to the theoretical outcome of a battle between an ] and the '']'', but include more practical debates such as the quality of the films or books of one franchise compared to the other, or which franchise has had a larger influence upon contemporary science fiction or particular media. A far-ranging subtopic of these debates concerns the accuracy and objectivity of many of the materials and calculations often cited in these debates; for example, the accuracy and objectivity of the '']'' issue released for the movie '']'' is frequently debated and its "]" status contested because of ambiguous statements by LucasFilm Licensing concerning its canon status, its conflicting status with obsolete LucasFilm Licensing canon policy (which is still considered valid among many debaters) and the fact that it was composed and written by ], creator and curator of the site ''Star Wars Technical Commentaries,'' whom many believe to be heavily biased in favor of inflating firepower figures for a number of ''Star Wars'' weapons in order to maintain an edge in Star Wars vs. Star Trek debates. | ||
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In 2001, ''Star Wars vs. Star Trek: The Rivalry Continues'' was released on ] by Passport Video.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/movie.aspx?m=69781 |title=Star Wars vs. Star Trek: Overview |accessdate=2007-09-16 |author=Perry Seibert |date= |work=All Movie Guide |publisher=MSN Movies}}</ref> The documentary covers a brief history of the development of both franchises, including behind the scene interviews with several cast members.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.fulvuedrive-in.com/review/822/Star+Wars+Vs+Star+Trek |title=Star Wars vs. Star Trek – The Rivalry Continues |accessdate=2007-09-16 |author=Nicholas Sheffo |date= |work= |publisher=Fulvue Drive-in}}</ref> | ||
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Template:Rescue The Star Trek and Star Wars franchises are established rivals in geek canon. Fans and scholars of the two fictional universes frequently debate their comparative merits while merchandisers compete to sell the rival products. Media critics and analysts have compared and contrasted the two works in particular because of their great impact and many similarities.
Similarities
Both franchises are set in outer space and feature voyages and battles between space ships such as the Millenium Falcon and the USS Enterprise. The universes contain many aliens and exotic planets such as Tatooine and Vulcan. The protagonists and villains wield futuristic technology such as phasers and light sabres. Their stories have grown from a small start to become a huge body of work comprising many episodes, movies, comics, novels, games and animations which make up billion of dollars of intellectual property providing work and entertainment for billions of people.
Differences
Star Wars has the naive style of a Saturday-morning serial presented for children by the cinemas of the mid 20th century and presents an elemental struggle between good and evil. Star Trek was conceived in the style of the TV western Wagon Train but adopted an more adult tone, providing an idealistic, utopian prospect of future human society. The heroes of Star Wars such as Han Solo and Luke Skywalker have a swashbuckling style while the protagonists of Star Trek such as Captain Picard and Mr Spock resolve their challenges with science and intellect.
Critical commentary
SF author and commentator David Brin contrasted the moral and political messages of the two works in his article "Star Wars" despots vs. "Star Trek" populists. He characterised the philosophy of Star Wars as elitist and authoritarian, as compared with the more progressive and egalitarian spirit of Star Trek. George Lucas defended his vision in the The New York Times saying, "That's sort of why I say a benevolent despot is the ideal ruler. He can actually get things done."
Online
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Many websites and at least one newsgroup are dedicated either to the active discussion of a theoretical or practical match-up between Star Wars and Star Trek, the collection of data regarding such a match-up, or both. Other sites, such as those serving as information databases for one franchise only, still play an active part or are at least frequently cited in such debates. Many Star Trek vs. Star Wars debates are not limited to the theoretical outcome of a battle between an Imperial Star Destroyer and the USS Enterprise, but include more practical debates such as the quality of the films or books of one franchise compared to the other, or which franchise has had a larger influence upon contemporary science fiction or particular media. A far-ranging subtopic of these debates concerns the accuracy and objectivity of many of the materials and calculations often cited in these debates; for example, the accuracy and objectivity of the Star Wars Incredible Cross Sections issue released for the movie Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones is frequently debated and its "canon" status contested because of ambiguous statements by LucasFilm Licensing concerning its canon status, its conflicting status with obsolete LucasFilm Licensing canon policy (which is still considered valid among many debaters) and the fact that it was composed and written by Dr. Curtis Saxton, creator and curator of the site Star Wars Technical Commentaries, whom many believe to be heavily biased in favor of inflating firepower figures for a number of Star Wars weapons in order to maintain an edge in Star Wars vs. Star Trek debates.
In 2001, Star Wars vs. Star Trek: The Rivalry Continues was released on DVD by Passport Video. The documentary covers a brief history of the development of both franchises, including behind the scene interviews with several cast members.
References
- David M. Ewalt (2005-05-18). "Star Wars Vs. Star Trek". Forbes. Retrieved 2007-09-13.
- ^ Richard Ho (May 14, 1999), "Trekkers VS Lucasites", The Havard Crimson
{{citation}}: Check date values in:|date=(help) - David Brin (Jun 15, 1999), "Star Wars" despots vs. "Star Trek" populists, Salon
- Orville Schell interviewing George Lucas (March 21, 1999), 'I'm a Cynic Who Has Hope for the Human Race', New York Times
- Perry Seibert. "Star Wars vs. Star Trek: Overview". All Movie Guide. MSN Movies. Retrieved 2007-09-16.
- Nicholas Sheffo. "Star Wars vs. Star Trek – The Rivalry Continues". Fulvue Drive-in. Retrieved 2007-09-16.
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