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History of the double sided floppy drive

Tom,

Here is some interesting history on the development of the double sided floppy drive.

I Googled for - shugart sa450 1976

Start reading around page 170

In the Matter of "Certain Double-Sided Floppy Disk Drives and Components Thereof"

Investigation No. 337-TA-215

USITC Publication 1860

May 1986

United States International Trade Commission, Washington DC

-- SWTPC6800 (talk) 02:56, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Request for mediation at MOSNUM

I have completed a request for cabal mediation here. Thunderbird2 (talk) 15:35, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your supporting remarks, and for informing Omegatron about the mediation request. Have you noticed that he hasn't edited for over month now? Thunderbird2 (talk) 15:51, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Tom, could you take a look at this please. I'd appreciate your comments. Thunderbird2 (talk) 00:20, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

In general I think it is fair and balanced :-) but I do have some comments. How would you like me to comment, directly onto the page, on its talk page, someplace else? Tom94022 (talk) 00:59, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Feel free to edit the page yourself. If anything comes up we don't agree on we can take it to the discussion page. Thunderbird2 (talk) 08:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm through discussing anything with those two. They appear unwilling or unable to reason, so it is pointless to continue trying without a mediator present. Let me know here if one ever shows up.

So they win by bullying. :( Jeh (talk) 16:52, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining about how the IDEMA standard works btw. You learn something new every day :) Thunderbird2 (talk) 16:14, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Assistance requested with ATA SSD issue

Hi, I wonder if you have a moment to give a third editor's opinion? I and editor Ramu50 are in a dispute on the AT Attachment page over whether solid state disks are supported under ATA. The issue is pretty well summarized in an ] I opened at reliable sources noticeboard. Ramu50 continues to remove the reference to solid state drives from the article lede, even though there is a citation supporting it. If you have a moment I'd appreciate your opinion, either in the form of assisting to revert what I consider vandalism to AT Attachment or comments on the talk page. (Sadly, admins have taken no action on my request to revert that page's recent rename.) Jeh (talk) 07:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your response there. It was very helpful as it made me realize that the issue of "support" is irrelevant. Re SSD the article lede simply says that ATA is used to connect them, and this is true (there are obviously many such products on the market) whether or not they are "supported". (In fact afaik there is no actual claim of "support" for anything anywhere within the ATA/ATAPI documents; they are merely descriptive. True? Jeh (talk) 23:31, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Exactly, the specification is a description of a standard, the sellers of products assert they comport to the standard. I don't think anyone would say that NTSC supports TV's. If yr TV meets the standard it works in the US at least now, but it doesn't work in Europe (SECAM, I think) :-) Tom94022 (talk) 05:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)