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User:SLJCOAAATR 1 is following me around

Since his block ended: he has posted nearly everywhere I have. I remove a tiny bit of information from an article, he reverts it in a matter of minutes. I post on a talk page: he posts nearly right away with an arguement. I feel he is just trying to stir up trouble, and needs to leave me alone. In the case of the reverts: I see it as a bit of ownership, because he thinks his view on notability is the way to go. I shouldn't have to be stalked by this user, just because he has a clear grudge against me. He doesn't agree with my edits, and decides to lash out on me in talk page posts. Perhaps I'm being a bit paranoid, but I feel he doesn't need to instantly reply to each and every comment of mine, just to argue with me. I clearly know he wont agree with much on me, I don't need to see a new post about it. RobJ1981 (talk) 01:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

big shocker!!! rob is acusing some person of stalking him (AGAIN!), and yet one more person is told to stay away from rob. rob is always the victim. i think thats now 50 people that have to syat away from rob. must be nice to have admin to cry to every five mintes. rob should be renamed doesnotplaywellwithoters1981! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.199.145.21 (talk) 13:56, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

You are posting on pages in which he is clearly interested and almost certainly has on his watchlist so talking of stalking is OTT in my opinion. Never the less I have asked him to stay clear of you for a few days to calm things down a little. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 08:04, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

So now, I can't work on the articles that I normally work on?... -.- Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R. 16:35, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I didn't say that. I asked you to steer clear of RobJ1981 for a few days that's all. There is no need to immediately reply to his posts on a talk page for example. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 17:38, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Thing is, I'm on like, 10 hours a day, and I get pretty bored, so, whenever I see that someone is on, I reply right away, I'm not the type person to be all "Oh, look, someone repled, I'll a week..." lol. Y'know what I'm saying? Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R. 17:45, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes I do and I'm telling you not to do it to him! He has accused you of stalking him for crying out loud. So don't do it. He's not your mate. Leave him alone. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 17:50, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Fine, though, I don't get why he keeps saying I'm trying to fight him...I told him to calm down, and out of that he gets "He's stalking me." and "He's trying to fight me." I mean, I replyed to both of you cmments here rather fast, does that mean I'm stalking you? No. Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R. 18:05, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 20:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Rob is such a peach!! please see his disruptive behavior vs skeletal, he has a long history of poor behavior and as been talkt to many time by admin. Not assuming good faith

accusing skeletal of own (not to mention stalking)

undoing others edits with no reason in edit summary

but please donnt tell rob to behave. he only has several rfc's, wikiquette alerts and ANI's and a ban against him. but somehow it is always other guy!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.198.252.151 (talk) 14:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Please stop following Rob around SLJCOAAATR. I've reverted your edit at his talkpage. I'm pretty sure this IP is yours. D.M.N. (talk) 15:25, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Is this 3RR violation?

Since we (I and Sennen goroshi) can not leave a message to each other's talk page or edit article at the same time, how could we warn 3RR if one is engaging in a edit warring with others? Sennen picked up a similar article with which I edited.2008-08-06T20:55:28 my edit on dog meat. Sennen goroshi's edit warring on Bosintang (dog meat soup) I'm not sure whether it is a 3RR violation because I consider adding something first without a consensus is "reverting". There is no discussion on this at the talk page of bosintang. Why do I bother to report this because I feel he still select similar articles that I previously edit before like these.Comfort womenProstitution in South KoreaProstitution in South Korea--Caspian blue (talk) 13:54, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

• Previous status.2008-07-20T19:10:05
• 1st 2008-08-07T14:22:00
• 2nd 2008-08-08T01:52:08
• 3rd 2008-08-08T02:23:04
• 4th 2008-08-08T02:26:02

"how could we warn 3RR if one is engaging in a edit warring with others?" You don't. You stay away from him not getting involved in any way. He is entitled to edit similar articles to you. If he edit wars on them, that is none of your business. Others will deal with it. No need for you to get involved. Please do not check his contributions. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 15:21, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, you did still tell me that these diffs are a 3RR violation or not. That is what I want to know. 3RR reports are often filed by uninvolved parties as he did to me as well. The above diffs prove that he is "checking on my contribution history first". Besides, you will see that the articles he edits recently have time stamps of me some times ago. Therefore, I automatically get to know his activities on articles on my "watchlist". So that is MY business. In order to avoid meeting him at the same time, I have to carefully check my watchlist and article history.--Caspian blue (talk) 15:27, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

DO NOT FILE A 3RR report on him. What is it about leave each other alone that you find so difficult to comprehend? Stay away from him. Watchlist stuff is really easy. if he edits and it comes up on your watchlist, then obviosly you should not for 5 days. Easy. Stay away from him. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 15:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

If I have an intention to file a 3RR report on him, I would not bring this up to you. He knows 3RR rule quite well and 3RR warning is actually up for newbies. I just want you to warn him not to make disruptive edit wars and still checking on me and following me. Nevertheless, I believe he violated 3RR on the article similar to dog meat that I edited. However if I were in a similar situation, I'm pretty sure that he would file on me per our long history.--Caspian blue (talk) 15:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

If he is editing disruptively then other admins can deal with that. Although no one is likely to agree with your interpretation of the 3RR. A first edit isn't a revert. I am confining my self to making sure that he doesn't stalk you. But you make this very hard if you don't steer clear of him. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 15:51, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh thank you for clarifying the notion of 3RR. That helps me. However, every time I edit some article, I have to check to see if I miss his edit on it within 5 days, so you make me have imperative ideas (of course, you think both are responsible for that probaton)--Caspian blue (talk) 15:57, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I did not know that you archived the talk page, well, I think we're done on this conversation.--Caspian blue (talk) 16:02, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I understand. Still try your best not to even think of him. Before you know it things will have calmed down and you won't even need it. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 16:03, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Tucker Max

Hi Theresa. I don't object if you wish to shorten Aharon42's block. My main concern is that he was edit-warring to include material that seems to violate WP:BLP. Aharon42 needs to be willing to follow our high standards for WP:BLP articles. EdJohnston (talk) 14:45, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Ringo Star

Be advised that I have reverted your changing of this article to a redirect to Ringo Starr. AFD procedings are still underway, and such an article cannot be moved or deleted in this way until a consensus is reached. If consensus results in a decision to delete the content and make it a redirect, then this can be done afterwards. But in order for an AFD to be viable, the article in question needs to remain accessible. 23skidoo (talk) 14:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

OK I'm fine with that. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 16:12, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Out of line

No, I'm not. I posted a welcome message because he didn't have one, he responded in a rude and aggressive manner, so I will treat him with the same level of respect I recieved, and will continue to do so, everytime he makes contact with me. Chafford (talk) 15:58, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 15:59, 9 August 2008

(UTC)

In your own words Theresa: There is no nice way of saying this, so I'm going to be blunt, you're wrong, I saw the case on ani, I posted a welcome on his talkpage, he hadn't recieved one, and I thought it would help by outlining policies and making him feel less stressed through seeing a freindly addition to his talkpage, instead, I recieve a paragraph of accusations and personal attacks, so I will treat him with the same level of courtesy. None.

I requested talkpage protection so he would be forced to sit his block through and not spew out further accusations. Chafford (talk) 16:06, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

If you don't like what he was saying you could have simply stopped going to his talk page. Newbies are allowed to spew out accusations, he wasn't a vandal, he wasn't ranting, He was angry. Instead of trying to calm him down you got angry too! Theresa Knott | The otter sank 16:10, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Either way, I don't accept being treated like a peice of shit by a new user, there was no need for his anger to be directed towards me, I did nothing wrong. Chafford (talk) 16:13, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I know. But being angry and being rude to you isn't treating you like a piece of shit. Like I said, you know he was angry when you went to the page. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 16:16, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm angry now, I'm not spewing out abuse at you, so what exactly gives Aharon the right to be abusive? Chafford (talk) 16:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I not saying that he has a right to be abusive. I'm saying cut him some slack and don't make things worse. You went to his talk page after all. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 16:41, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

On a side note. Please don't go after people just because you see them on my talkpage. Even if I have angered you. S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R. is far from perfect but he has done nothing to you so templating his talk page and reporting his username serves which purpose exactly. Note that none of the people who work on the articles he edits have found his username confusing, so why do you? Theresa Knott | The otter sank 16:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, Theressa, for helping to try to make him a better user. I admit that I am far from perfect, but, there's no need to threaten me, and my friends because we talk to each other on our user talk pages. Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R. 19:42, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For your help in blockin' 'dem vandals, I award you this barnstar. Thanks for all your help! Happy editing! eric (mailbox) 18:37, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. The thing is, I had many a disagreement with RickK over how to deal with vandals :-( Theresa Knott | The otter sank 19:50, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Skeletal's use of WP as MySpace

Hi Theresa. I had a run in with User talk:SLJCOAAATR 1 and posted the following: Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#WP_seemingly_used_as_a_social_network. I thought you might like to comment as you have dealt with them recently. Thanks for you insight and opinions. -- Alexf 20:52, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Audio links - I don't understand

Hello. I've noticed that you've removed the links I'd made to a free source of audio texts in French. I'd like to understand : those links add something to these articles, to my mind. Not only for the blind, but for those who want to have an access to the original versions, or who want to improve their French instructively. Moreover, litteratureaudio is the librivox of France : in all his aspects, it's a similar project. You seemed to approve the links to the latter, so I thought you approve it to the former... for french texts... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaiffelet (talk • contribs) 20:58, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

To be honest i was highly suspicious of you adding so many all at once. You have no other contributions to wikipedia and I suspect that you are involved in litteratureaudio and are here to promote it. That's why I reverted you. You might find the the French Misplaced Pages will accept the links but for the English one a recording of the french text has little value for the majority of our readers. Having said that I am but one person's opinion. Why not try suggesting the link on the article's talk pages and see if the editors of those articles agree to add them in. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:07, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm a french wikipedian, and I've done a lot of contributions there. The links are presents there, and very well accepted. I've participated at the wikisonore project (on wikisource), but it failed - we were a few implied in it in France. But we success with litteratureaudio, and we have so many foreigners interested that I believe it a good idea to make them know that resource exists. Gaiffelet (talk) 21:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I think important to add that litteratureaudio is an association without any lucrative purpose. Gaiffelet (talk) 21:23, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

OK fair enough. If you readd i will not revert although someone else might so i still think it would be a good idea to take it to the article talk pages. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:28, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

"to take it"... You mean : each link I proposed ? Gaiffelet (talk) 21:44, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes I mean go to the talk page of each article and suggest adding the link you want for that page. See what people say. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:46, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok. That's a good idea. I'll do this later. It wasn't my way of doing on the french wikipedia, because I knew the moderators in the philosophical district. But that's not the case here... I'm new :-) Good night !Gaiffelet (talk) 22:06, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Could you please help me?

Today I've been blocked for using Misplaced Pages as a MySpace, then I got unblocked and all the userboxes I've made got deleted (including the pictures that came with them) for routine clean. Which, to me, doesn't seem like a good reason to delete someone's userboxes. Come to my home page and you'll see. Unknown the Hedgehog 20:28, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

She's aware of the fiasco. Here's two of Unknown's. I'll get the others.

This user thinks that Shadow the Hedgehog is the greatest Sonic Character.

Think you could do all of mine as well, Theresa? Be warned, there's a good 30+ of them. Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R. Soul 20:36, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Ill keep my answer short. No. Instead of worrying about stupid userboxes, you should concentrate on writing an encylopedia. I will take no part in helping restore things that i have always considered a huge waste of time. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 22:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

K then. We'll ask soemone else. Bye. Regards! Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R. Soul 22:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Abelian group

I want to use an equals sign in the lead summary but it breaks the template. I'm not brilliant with templates. Can that be fixed? Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

{{=}}

James F. (talk) 22:04, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 22:05, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

an accident

I do realise that there is a 5 day period which caspian and myself should wait before editing an article, edited by the other. Today caspian edited an article about 1 minute after I did, and in all fairness, I imagine that it was a mistake on his part, due to my name not being on the edit history when he started his edit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Korea_under_Japanese_rule&action=history

I know he and I have had history, but I am not so petty as to wish to see him blocked from editing, from what I assume was an innocent mistake on his part.

Sennen goroshi (talk) 12:05, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

fair enough. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 23:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Certainly, I did not realized it until I got a message from Sennen goroshi on my talk page. Well, first of all, I was surprised to get this message because we can't leave a message at each other's talk page that would cause a block to a person who violated the rule. Secondly, when I edited the article, I surely checked on the history to see if his name there and could not find him. He was 1 minute fast before me during my editing the article. Technically, we both broke the rule accidentally, but I don't know how you would deal with this.--Caspian blue (talk) 12:21, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Sennen goroshi please don't post on Caspian blue's talk page. Even for something like this. Caspian blue, please don't edit the article for now.That's the only action that I think needs to be taken this time Theresa Knott | The otter sank 23:43, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Abusive user

Theresa, I have a complaint against User:Straight_Edge_PXK. First at this post he calls anyone who disagrees with him "f*ing idiots." Secondly, In the section below that I provided sources (third party reviews) for the alternative-rock claims that other people were unable to provide. Based off of this, I made the appropriate changes in the article, and he is now edit-warring and reverting any change I make. Will you please have a look? Thanks! Wikiwikikid (talk) 15:12, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Theresa, I see Tan is already talking to him about his post (after I made this complaint) so I'm going to post this on his talk instead. Please disregard or handle as you see fit, and thanks for your time. Wikiwikikid (talk) 15:29, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I dropped a warning, as it looks like TK has been offline for a bit. don't bother with my talk page if you haven't already, I watchlist this page. Tan ǀ 39 15:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Nicely worded warning. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 23:48, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I apologize, I added to your page before seeing this... Wikiwikikid (talk) 15:33, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Caspian/Myself

After seeing the results of your attempts to calm things down between Caspian and myself, I have come to the conclusion that threatening both of us with a block if we edit the same article within a 5 day period, is counterproductive.

All that has happened is that we both currently prevent each other from editing certain articles, and due to human nature, we both make an edit on those respective articles about every 4.5 days in order to maintain our right to continue editing those articles.

I would suggest/request that the threat of blocking either of us is removed, we are two editors who make constructive edits, and are able to use wikipedia and all of its dispute resolution procedures to resolve any content issues we may have. Neither of us have any history of major abuse, lengthy blocks, or sock-puppet history.

Without getting too personal, I am a little offended by having the sort of punishment inflicted on me, that I would give to one of my 10yr old students at school.

I do appreciate the work you are doing, and understand the logic behind the action you took, however it isn't working and might benefit from being looked at again. Sennen goroshi (talk) 13:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm looking at it now. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 18:04, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Sennen goroshi's continued vandalism

I think you take a proper action to Sennen goroshi's continued vandalism on Korean related articles. It appears that the probation just gives him have more chances to game your probation. He only picks articles that I previously edited but he did not or my turf (Korean cuisine, culture, history). His vandalism on hoe (dish), Korean independence movements, Empress Myeongseong, Korean Strait are very disruptive and he also shadowing my steps, selecting similar subject after I edit some article. After I edited gui (Korean grilled dishes), he suddenly began editing bulgogi, Korean barbecue. Similar cases can be found on on many articles. Right after I edited South Korea, he edited information regarding comfort women at Korea. His inserted citation is from Comfort women article and I confirmed that he distorted the information. Of course, his disruptive editing conflicts with other editors who have been editing such articles and very funnily, he accuses others "wiki-stalkers". He also tried to insert unfit category to Sakuradamon Incident which I got DYK this month, of course, he found out it to check my contributions. I think you would better change your probation to prevent such disruption by Sennen goroshi. I have not seen any constructive edits by him. --Caspian blue (talk) 13:56, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

• Empress Myeongseong (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

1. blanking cited info
2. My pointing-out his edit at talk page
3. self-revert

• Hoe (dish) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

1. My last edit2008-04-10T11:37:58
2. Sennen goroshi's edit warring with Badagnani (talk · contribs) as inserting false info.
3. My notice at the talk page - I showed him a picture as an opposite evidence which has been already attached on the article
4. After my notice at talk, he self-reverted.

• Korea Strait (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

1. My last edit on the article
2. Sennen broke the WP:NC-KO established agreement by both Korean and Japanese editors for 3 years as stating that some SPA's edit as "good faith edit".
3. The talk page
4. his self-revert

• Korean independence movement (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

1. Blanking the lead without reason.

There are too many such cases.--Caspian blue (talk) 14:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

As the articles that I used to edit are now restricted, I have moved on to other articles, which may not be of such interest to myself. I have a long history of editing articles relating to Korea, Japan and food - its just that I am restricted from editing many of those articles at the moment, as is Caspian - I don't wish this to be a tit for tat argument, however it seems clear that Caspian is playing this just as much as I am, making minor edits after 4.5 days, not I imagine to prevent me from editing, but more to prevent his right to edit that article being taken away. Well, I will rise above the insults and accusations, this is not the time or the place, however this restriction needs to be removed. Sennen goroshi (talk) 14:09, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Nope, you had never edited bulgogi, Korean barbecue, Sakuradamon Incident, hoe (dish), The Chosun Ilbo before. Unlike you, on our overlapped articles, you will notice that my name recently. Theresa, please take a proper action to his disruptions. Thanks.--Caspian blue (talk) 14:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

As I said, due to me being prevented from editing my normal articles, I have had to choose different articles to edit. This was caused by the sanctions imposed on us. Under the sanctions imposed I am allowed to edit any article I wish, as long as your edit is at least 5 days old. This is highly counterproductive and has just resulted in annoying both of us and restricting the articles we are able to contribute on. The restriction should be removed, and we should both be free to edit any article we wish, it seems wrong that you are unable to edit an article such as "hoe" that you obviously know far more about that I do - it also seems wrong that I am unable to edit certain articles merely because you edit them every four days. The fact that we are here (because we cannot use our talk pages to communicate) demonstrates that the restrictions on our editing is not working. Sennen goroshi (talk) 14:40, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

But Caspian, thank you for pointing out that I self reverted many of the articles, when you pointed out that my edit was incorrect, it is nice to see that you don't try to hide my attempts at compromise. Sennen goroshi (talk) 14:41, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

If I did not point out on your mistakes, or had take a wiki-break, others or readers may not notice your disruptions. Besides, I'm not in service of fixing your mistakes all the time. You still have not restored blanked info and fix false info at Korea and Korean independence movement.--Caspian blue (talk) 14:57, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, I will have a look at those two articles, I am not promising to change them, but I will look at them and see if I think a new edit would be a good thing or not. Again this highlights the problems we are having, due to the restrictions in place, you have to make me aware, on another user's talk page, about problems you consider certain articles to have. If there were no restrictions, you could use revert my edits, rather than going through all of this. I imagine it is stressful for both of us. Sennen goroshi (talk) 15:43, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

The reason that i put the restrictions in place was to force you two to stay away from one another. It is pretty clear that that has failed so far. Never the less It'as too soon to give up yet. Yes the restrictions mean it's difficult for you to revert one another, that's a good not a bad thing IMO. I don't want you two editing the same articles for the time being. I've been kinda busy recently so I've not looked at your contributions in detail, but I'm off to do that now. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 17:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

One more reason why this is not working is that while I am not attempting to edit any articles, that I am currently prohibited from editing, the other user involved is requesting that other editors act as his meatpuppet and make edits on his behalf. Sennen goroshi (talk) 03:18, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Meatpuppet? What a nice accusation. I don't want you to get a credit of my hard working and you inserted the info as if you solely do. This restriction is just unfair to me. I filed his wiki-stalking to ANI and why I have to clean his mess on Korean related articles? Theresa, you set the rule, so you're fully responsible for supervising us. You only give me hard time to upgrade articles. --Caspian blue (talk) 03:34, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Caspian, perhaps this could be solved if you calmed down a little. Why don't you stop making ANI reports, stop putting essays with 25 diffs to show that another editor is in the wrong, stop taking offence to every edit and every editor that does not agree with your POV 100% I get annoyed with the fact that about 10% of my time on wikipedia is spent dealing with your complaints about me. I have had content disputes with many many editors, these disputes were so minor, that I have forgotten their names already - even disputes I had that got onto ANI, we dealt with using about 10 lines of text, not 100. Just edit some articles and if there is a dispute wait for consensus. hmmm let me guess, the response you are dying to type to this will include phrases such as "harsh accusations" and another 48 diffs designed to prove your point? well don't bother - just calm down and edit some articles - I wish to do the same. Sennen goroshi (talk) 03:49, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Sennen, why have you followed me and then made personal/racist attacks? I would not forget your comment on Comfort women as "Chon prostitutes" and rape is a kind of "surprise sex". That is your view, and you falsified info on comfort women at the article of Korea. I wonder why you're still editing Misplaced Pages. Wikpedia is not your blog or playground. Would you stop such things her? What you're doing here unhelpful to anyone and to improve content. You also inserted false information so many times like the above.--Caspian blue (talk) 03:58, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I am flattered that you take such an interest in me and my edits (well I would be flattered if it wasn't so creepy) - but it might be a good idea if you concentrated on editing wikipedia, rather than obsessing over edits that I made a long,long time ago. You should learn a little about content dispute, you go to ANI every time anyone makes a suggestion that some obscure Korean item might have actually come from China or Japan. Don't try to make me out as the number one arsehole of wikipedia, as opposed to you being wikipedia's white knight - one click on your block history shows that your background is just as messed up as mine..(actually you have been blocked more than I have) What is unhelpful is the time wasted by me, you, other editors, and other admins, who have to deal with constant bullshit complaints in ANI, rather than spending their time editing articles. I don't wish to waste any more of my time - I am happy to edit the same articles as you, and where there is an issue, I will happily wait to see who's opinion gains consensus. Sennen goroshi (talk) 04:14, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Sure, you are one time less blocked than me. My first block was the result of your wikistalking, and I was naively trapped by you. Your above edits are the same attempt to repeat your scheme. You really enjoy playing the same game, but you were always wonderfully saved by WP:AFG. Besides, unlike you, the people who got me blocked are indef. blocked for socking in turn. How nice. I can't prevent sockpuppeter's tactics. The reason why I remember your racist/sexist/comments is that whenever I visited your talk page, your talk page filled with same complaints. Thanks to you, I have been getting to know very dirty languages in English day by day. I do not wish you to vandalise Korean-related articles with your tilted POV. Why don't you create an articles? You have not done before. Trying a new thing is very good for a new start. --Caspian blue (talk) 04:30, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

• Theresa, if you can keep tracks of your probation, that sanction is only disadvantageous for me. Therefore, I can't prevent his disruption on articles above. You have not commented on the evidences yet. You might be very busy, but this restriction only serve to feed Sennen's bad behaviors.--Caspian blue (talk) 04:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

If the current situation was only restricting you, then why was it me who requested for it to be changed? I didn't make this request in order to accuse you of anything, but as usual you take things to a personal level, and here we are again reading another 1000 word essay. Why don't we both just agree that these editing restrictions are not working, and request that they are removed? Things can be very simple, if you let them. Sennen goroshi (talk) 06:27, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

• Theresa, the above cases are all his typical wrongdoings but I could not do anything because he is gaming your probation. This is not a personal level thing. He really deserves at least "topic-ban on Korean related articles" or another short block for his erroneous edits/ disruptive provocations. He takes credit of my hard working regardless of my polite asking on hoe (dish). I had to ask another editor who just got off from his block because I wanted to prevent Sennen's continued vandalism on the article and end dispute as showing evidences. However the other user just took advantage of my expansion to create his desired article and demanded me to search info that he wants to know. Then, Sennen nicely followed me to the user's page and accused that I'm doing meatpuppeting.. He checks out my contributions all the time and shadows my edit to provoke me. Why are you so calm on this and please don't say that I have to assume good faith on Sennen's long-time disruption. For another example is Kim Ki-dukhis edit today2007-09-10T2007-10-03T2007-11-03T This new edit on Kim Ki-duk is nothing but a clear evidence of his intention to continue gaming your rule because he too knows well that I care the director per Talk:Kim_Ki-duk#Animal_Cruelty (I changed my screen name) and can't edit the article. WP:AFG should not be abused any more.--Caspian blue (talk) 10:52, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Seems strange that you should mention the Kim Ki-duk article as an example of gaming, I first edited that article in September 2007, while your first edit on that article was November 2007. oh and regarding your "polite request" - I didn't consider this to be that polite http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Badagnani&diff=prev&oldid=233835372

Because I don't want the editor take the credit for my hard working on expanding the history section of Hoe (dish).

I didn't follow you to user:Badagnani's talk page, I have had many interactions with that user and have left/read messages on his talk page many times in the past. You claim you were not trying to use a meatpuppet and that your request was to prevent vandalism, if that is true then why were you asking someone to add a history section? that does not seem like preventing vandalism, it just seems as if you would really hate for me to add something that could be considered to be constructive. I am a fair person, if you had not specifically mentioned my name, then I would have happily given you full credit for it, but seeing as you went out of your way to name me as someone who should get credit for an edit, I really cant be bothered to give you any credit for information provided - I did what was in the best interest of the article, I added the information, to give you credit would be a personal favour, and right now I don't see why I should go out of my way to do anything for you. Sennen goroshi (talk) 11:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

And regarding me accusing you of trying to use meat puppets, I think that is pretty close to what you are doing. You are going to talk pages and asking people to make edits for you, on articles that you are restricted from editing. I am not the only editor who has come to this conclusion http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Sjschen&diff=prev&oldid=233846448 Sennen goroshi (talk) 11:47, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

You might forget about why I asked the request to the user who just got out of his block for his disruption and has edit wars with you for two weeks (diffs are already provide above). Although I retracted my request from the user because he tried to use me and he altered my comment, he has accused so. So there is no merit on your accusation. Tell me why did you follow me to Korean Misplaced Pages as visiting my talk page. That is your another blockable breach. I had not reported it because I still tried to rely on good faith, but you fail to refrain yourself. Now it's time you earn what you deserve.--Caspian blue (talk) 12:04, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Asking someone else to add content for you on a page that I have told you not to edit is definitely not constructive, and I will block you if you do it again. The purpose of the 5 day thing is for you two to stay away from one another. Asking others to edit for your does not help you tp stay away from him. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 13:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I expanded the section to prevent him from adding false information from good faith. The user whom I asked did not add my addition and your threat is really a good one.

The fact that hechose not to add it does not negate your attempt to get him to meatpuppet for you. Please don't ever do that again.

You're just letting him doing disruptively. You read that he followed me to Korean Misplaced Pages and then falsely accused me of following him?

How can i possibly know wqhat he did on the Korean Misplaced Pages? But i can see you watching his edits here. Please stay away from him. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 13:49, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Because his following me to even Korean Misplaced Pages is not your turf? This is nonsense.

I don't read Korean. if you have problems there speak to the local admins.

So your logic says that any article that I missed to edit within five days and then he made erroneous edits, and if I pointed out on it, that is my following him?

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!! Now you are getting it. Stay away from him. Do not even look at his edits to see if they correct or not. Stay away from him. Stay away.

Ha! You're only encouraging to check his history on articles that I put on my watchlist and edited before. Because I have to be very careful that he edited the article before me. Sometimes, bot hides recent updates on articles. He takes any opportunity to report me here (he first came to you, did you forget it already?) Misplaced Pages is a serious place to provide information, so your saying is nothing but any erroneous is okay to stay here. --Caspian blue (talk) 13:58, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I think you're really no interested in meditating anything.

Yess!!!!!! I told you I'm not interested in mediating. I am enforcing a sepeartion of two warring editors. I don't want to be your (or his) pal. I don't want to help you two to get along i want you two stay away from each other. Stay away from him.

You just encourage us to continue this absurd competition until one of us will be blocked by your probation.--Caspian blue (talk) 13:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Well then why not foil my evil game plan by simply staying away from him. That way i can't block you. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 13:49, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Why would I be blocked instead of getting a credit of expanding the article to settle down the old disute (absurd POV claim that Korean Hoe originated from Japanase Sashimi without source) Sennen left his comment in English, didn't you see it? Oh well, you just don't want to see it because you're condoning his disruption. That's why you can't block Sennen.--Caspian blue (talk) 13:53, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Sennen goroshi's another breach to your rule.

We can not leave any message to each other's talk page per your rule. However, Sennen goroshi begged me to email him to get out of this sanction together after his erroneous edit was pointed by me at Korea Strait I had not answered to his request, because his wrongdoings were clear and I have no trust that his attempt is sincere, and I don't give my personal information to anyone especially him, given his long-time wiki-stalking. Then he follow me to "Korea Misplaced Pages". The IP user, 203.165.124.61 (talk · contribs) is you.

I cannot police the Korean Misplaced Pages. Incidentally please do not email me. Keep everything on Wiki. This is probably going to end up at the the arbcom. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 13:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

This is another breach of Sennen goroshi because we can not talk to each other's talk page, and Sennen appeared to my user page at Korean Misplaced Pages to avoid Theresa's eye on this.

Well it's not a breech because I cannot possibly enforce a probabtion on another wiki. If you do not wish to talk to him simply don't reply. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 13:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I only said what Sennen has done to articles. Besides, Sennen, you're the first one to come to Theresa for lifting our sanction because your several repeated wrongdoings were pointed out by me, so you visited here before I reported your disruption.

I'm sorry but i can see editing not isruption here. You need to read our policy on WP:AGF and stop accusing him of vandalising when he clearly isn't. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 13:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

His blaking info of Korean independence movement and adding false information to hoe (dish) not a vandalism? Thank you for your comment. I do not wish you meditate this any more. You just condone things getting worse. --Caspian blue (talk) 13:26, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I am not mediating, and you do not have a choice here. Stop accusing him of vandalism, stop following hs edits, stay away from him! Theresa Knott | The otter sank 13:30, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

If you're not meditating, why are we wasting our time here? You have to take responsibility for your decision. Do not say things that I have not done. I presented that he's shadowing my edit and following me and making false info!!!!!! Sakuradamon Incident is clear evidence of his wikistalking. I'm again very disappointed at you.--Caspian blue (talk) 13:34, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

You are shadowing his edits too. As I said before you enjoy the drama. I don't care if you find me disappointing. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 13:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Could you provide diffs that I shadowed him? Such false accusation is not tolerable and your another mockery that I enjoy the drama is really a "bad-faith" comment. You're an admin who should show a higher ethic to editors. I think you really enjoy watching dramas because you encourage us to make more disputes instead of proper meditation. If you can't take your responsibility, please defer to another admin. --Caspian blue (talk) 13:45, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

This is another poor attempt to degrade Korean independence activist, and then you inserted Category:Korean criminals to Sakuradamon Incident with that, I got DYI. Your Kim Ki-duk edit several hours ago is against a consensus except you and attempt to provoke me. Well, it is too clear that your contributions are all nothing but disruptive. Justice should be regarded within Misplaced Pages. --Caspian blue (talk) 11:56, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Chage your rule

I only replied to your returning answer. Just ignoring it or labeling a spam since ignoring is your only suggestion. You have no interest in meditating us, so your probation has many flaws. You have to change your unauthorized rule because you encourage unnecessary dramas and instead of calming the situation.

I don't see how it encourages drama. It may not be effective in reducing drama but I'm hoping that given time you will eventually learn to leave each other alone. As for "I'm only replying to your answer" how silly. A reply of "Please do not email me" is not an answer.

You're the director of drama. Your probation have failed as you see and do not have no intention to modify your illogical rule for reducing disputes. As for your email, you would not really need to send me such imperative replies. Ignoring is good solution for you.--Caspian blue (talk) 15:34, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I was forced to send you imperative replies because you totally ignored my repeated casual ones. It is important to state clearly and definitely that email from you is unwelcome so that that if it comes to me having to make a complaint to you isp about it everything is clearly documented. But have no fear. Once having done that I have no intention of reply to you by email again except to state "don't email me". I may even set up a filter to do it automatically if it becomes necessary. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 15:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Please do not say such threat. All my emails are very short, not exceeding 1 to 4 lines The first one is to inform you the recent update of your page and the second is your false accusation on me. So please do not make more silly dispute on this.--Caspian blue (talk) 15:48, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not making threats. The fact that you emails are short means nothing. I asked you not to mail, you kept mailing me. I had to assume that it might continue indefinitely so I acted accordingly. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 15:51, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

On Liancourt Rocks, people can only revert one time per day, and the probation is regarded strong. However your unofficial one is way much stronger than the official probation without clear rules. Your 5 days probation is completely blocking one side and condones disruption of false information. You have no right Misplaced Pages is filled with false info. Like above, I point out on the false info or blanking by him, you just falsely accused that I'm following him. If you can't change your rule, then just defer to ANI, or others. You accusation that my expanding with reliable sources is disruptive is really illogical. I really can't follow your rule.--Caspian blue (talk) 15:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

My probation isn't one sided. It's completely fair on the both of you. Your trouble is that you want to be free to revert him but he not to be free to revert you. As I've said before to you. If he makes a problematic edit, someone else will deal with it. You have repeatedly accused him of stalking you yet you continue to monitor his edits and stalk him. Sorry no. You need to stay away from him. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 15:16, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

You don't get the point or try not to get it. I don't want myself only free to revert edit. Please do not distort my statement. The above logical suggestion is for both of us and for you who do not bother to do anything. I already presented enough diffs. The stalking to my Korean page is a friendly gesture and good faith conduct? He visited my page, and then you rather falsely accused me without diffs. His comment written in English is also invisible to you. Other normal and authorized probation like the above is for meditating editors from both sides, and you simply misread what I'm saying. As much as I do not want to meet him, I really don't want to visit your page. --Caspian blue (talk) 15:28, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry but the diffs you have presented so far look like editing not like vandalism which is how you described then. As for the korean wiki, no i do not bother going there. I'm sure they have admins there, so ask them to deal with any problems on that wiki. I'm sorry if i am missing what you are saying, I'll take another look tomorrow. Perhaps I'll see it differently then. As for not wanting to visit my page. I understand but I'm not comfortable about talking to you in private. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 15:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

I got an answer from admin there that I have to deal with the case within here, because his stalking is due to dispute with me here. His contribution is only one comment at my talk page, so they can't enforce anything. The email is only to inform you the recent update since you're absent. I don't want to even talk with you for such things, other than editing contents. Just why don't you change your rule from 5 day probation to one revert per day or two day.--Caspian blue (talk) 15:41, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Wouldn't work. He edits, your revert, he reverts.Theresa Knott | The otter sank 15:48, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Why first edit is regarded "revert"? He edits, I revert. Or I edit, and he revert. Then take the dispute to the talk page. End of story. Like hoe (dish), you prevent me to expand the history section as the two (Sennen and someone I foolish believed that he can add the content) request to implement more content. However, they can't because sources are all from Korean sources, and they don't read Korean. --Caspian blue (talk) 15:52, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

The first edit isn't regarded as a revert. unless it is a revert. Plus you accused him of stalking you and a single revert rule would not stop that. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 17:42, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

I will refrain from editing the "hoe" article for the time being, it is not something I know so much about, and perhaps he would be able to offer more to the article than I can. I edited it today, so as I won't edit it again, Caspian will be able to edit it in five days time. I have no issues if the 5 day rule is relaxed on that particular article, as I have no plans to edit it in the near future, due to his obvious desire to improve the article.

Caspian in future if you have an strong desire to add something to an article that I am editing, please address me on the talk page of the article in question and perhaps I can help you out, I do not expect/desire the same from you - you may continue to make edits every 4.5 days if you wish, or perhaps we could co-exist and cooperate. The ball is in your court. Sennen goroshi (talk) 16:46, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Richard Rolles

Well Rick is short for Richard, and the name COULD be "Rick Rolles", which is that well-known internet meme of being "Rick-rolled". Clever little twist I though, still blockable edits though of course. Wildthing61476 (talk) 20:49, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Ahhh! Thank you. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 20:52, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Miscalculation

While I don't agree with your rule because I and the other feel that your unofficial rule is not a good remedy to resolve anthing, I miscalculated my 5 day sanction. Therefore, I turn in myself before Sennen goroshi reported it (he has the right but that would be very displeasant). Although I self-reverted the article Korean barbecue (nothing to be controversial though. I just wanted to clean up too many images and inserted an image that I got a permission via OTRS in a condition that I promise to add an image to a photographer. I'm obliged to keep it and the person wants to know how his images are used in English Misplaced Pages). Well, I would not edit today from now, and the block is fully up to you. However, if you block me then, please don't leave a disdainful note like "gaming the rule" or "disruptive". This is a pure matter of my dumb math. You have been not kind to me (drama queen, love dramas etc), so I don't want to get further shocks by you since I'm reporting myself. However, I would ask other people on whether your probation has a validity in the future. Good day.--Caspian blue (talk) 15:07, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I was blocked for a similar miscalculation, so a block would seem only fair - however you did report yourself and your edit was not disruptive, so as the other party involved, I can't see any constructive reasons for you to be blocked. To be honest, I couldn't care less if Caspian is blocked or not over this

. Sennen goroshi (talk) 16:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm now I am in a bit of a pickle here. On the one hand, you told me about it yourself, self reverted and Sennen Goroshi states that he couldn't care less if you were blocked as he cannot see anything constructive reason for blocking you. On the other hand you have used my block of him as a weapon to make personal attacks against him "As for block, you was recently ("just two weeks ago") blocked for your trolling and wrongdoings". . So what am I to do. Perhaps this will work, I'll not block you this time but if you ever try to use his block log against him again I will block you. Of course he should not use yours against you either! Does that seem fair? Theresa Knott | The otter sank 19:23, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the generosity. Also, I'm very surprised to see Sennen goroshi's opinion and I might retry good faith on him. If (unfortunately) a similar situation happens to him, I think he can have a same chance like this for equality. Of course, I promise not to say like that, and am wiling to remove the wording at the talk page. At that time, I was very upset at him, and I thought the current status of the article served well to content both Japan and Korean side, and the article has a history for tendentious arguing. Anyway, I will of course, follow your offer rather than getting a block and will not edit English Misplaced Pages today for de facto serving the time. However, could you change the stressful probation a bit or try to believe us to make a peace by ourselves? I'm getting paranoid with the 5 day sanction so does Sennen goroshi. If somebody intervenes in our dispute and we ourself present reliable sources for our claim, that could easily be resolved or calmed down so far like hoe (dish). Would you consider my "persistent" request one more time? I know in this situation, I'm saved by the generosity, but the probation is still very stressful. Thanks. --Caspian blue (talk) 21:01, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Well since you've both asked for a lifting of the 5 days, then I am happy to do so provided that you both are willing to agree by the following:

1) Assume good faith ( I mean it!)

2) No revert warring, settle disputes on the talk page.

3) No personal attack, including referring to each other's editing history, block logs etc. Neither of you are angels here.

4) No deliberately winding each other up, and no accusations of stalking etc. You edit similar articles, you need to be able to collaborate.

5) Assume good faith. I know i said it before but it is important. We are all here to write an encyclopedia, and we all want it to be best the best encyclopedia the world has ever seen.

Is that acceptable? Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:10, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Good enough and I gladly accept your offer. I'm relieved to hear the news.--Caspian blue (talk) 21:15, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. I have always had good faith regarding Caspian, I just think we have different opinions regarding content, he obviously cares a lot of his edits and has principals, and I know I have annoyed him in the past with edits that were not 100% constructive. I am looking forward to the day we contribute together on an article - that might not happen on a Korea/Japan dispute related article due to our locations, but on something less controversial, I see no reason for us not interacting in a constructive manner. Although going on a revert rampage is obviously a bad thing, I have no problem if he looks at the edits that I have made since the 5 day restriction started, and reverts what he thinks is necessary, if he does so and I do not agree with those reverts, I will address the issues via the article talk page, not by immediately undoing his edits. Sennen goroshi (talk) 04:42, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Excellent. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 07:45, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I just added a note to your comment about Death Note

Hi, Theresa, I just added a note plus references to your earlier deletion of a reference from the Death Note entry. It's on the Death Note talk page, where I've asked for comments before I rewrite that portion of the article. Timothy Perper (talk) 19:12, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Degenerate-Y

I can't thank you enough! And to be honest, you were right. This morning there it was, a sockpuppet warning. I kept saying to myself, "Who Cares?" I didn't do anything wrong, I just wanted a clean slate, and to be taken seriously. If there was a barnstar for this, I'd give it to you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Degenerate-Y (talk • contribs) 20:48, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

No problem. I'm glad to have helped. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 20:54, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

I've commented at the SSP page. I also don't like the fact that he is parading his "victory" here, here and here. Please comment back. D.M.N. (talk) 21:21, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

No hard feelings about the winning thing Ok? I hate it when people hate me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Degenerate-Y (talk • contribs) 21:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

No one hates you. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 21:38, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

No one "hates" you, me and Darrenhusted just thought you're accounts violated WP:SOCK. And, sometimes it can be considered in bad taste to remove legitimate topics from your talkpage. Theresa, I've made a further comment on the SSP page as well. D.M.N. (talk) 21:38, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Topic Ban

Is that Mmbabies topic ban still in force? I need to know because it may affect any future RFAs, and I'm not really interested in the Mmbabies case much anymore anyway since it's (s)he is historical on Misplaced Pages. GO-PCHS-NJROTC 23:03, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

In that case no, the ban is not in force. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 09:33, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Endwits

Do you seriously think User:Endwits is a sockpuppet of me? I'm just wondering if you'll start a new case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Degenerate-Y (talk • contribs) 00:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Not sure, haven't made up my mind yet. If it is you I suggest you stop using it and just stick to the one account.There is no need to start a new case. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 09:08, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I can assure you I am not Endwits--Degenerate-Y (talk) 23:44, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't much care to be honest. I still haven't made up my mind, but so what? It doesn't matter. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 00:30, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

You may wish to leave this user a note on his talkpage based on the recent edits. D.M.N. (talk) 21:23, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

OmG he's so bad at this it's funny. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 23:03, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

I do not know what is going on here. I am new to wiki and do not know how to post to this board. I was not aware that you have to use the "~"x4 times to sign your post. I am Endwits and NO other user. I do not care in the least what Theresa thinks and I owe her no explanation, and she will not receive one beyond this response. Endwits (talk) 04:37, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Editor requesting unblock

Hello Theresa. See User talk:Johnmccainisretarded for an unblock request. You might want to comment there. Not sure if you want him to change his user name, or if you feel he should be blocked from editing under any account. (Since account creation is blocked, he won't be able to create a new name without assistance). Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 03:05, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

When i first asked him to change his name I had in mind softblocking the account so that he could create a new one. However he then went on to vandalise, hence the hardblock. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 09:11, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

afd

while from your description this guy has done himself no favours, i believe the general feeling these days is that referring to articles relating to living people as being vanity ones is unneccesary: unkind, potentially embarrassing and that type of stuff. 86.44.24.187 (talk) 05:13, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

you make a valid point. I've removed the word, Theresa Knott | The otter sank 07:53, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

5 sentences in the body + 3 highlighting gravamen of excerpts

1. Would an awareness of the following excerpts clarify what and why I have construed this complaint as on of using WP:NPA as naught but a gambit in a quite different game than one having to do with allegations bad behaviour which needs to be reprimanded?

2. In the hour before Caspian blue created the complaint thread at WP:AN/I, I tried to move relevant postings from my personal talk page to the Afd discussion thread so that the subject context could become the center of focus; and at the time, I thought the fact that they seemed to disappear was some systems glitch or that I was doing something wrong.

3. It didn't occur to me until some time later that there were Caspian blue's reverts; and when I figured it out, I tried to ask an administrator to restore these lost postings.

4. If the following do help clarify the thread at Wp:AN/I, please suggest a non-controversial way to introduce them.

1. According to Caspian blue, my very first personal attack was on User:LordAmeth|LordAmeth]]'s talk page, e.g., "You were very sensitive at my choice of "against" to merge under "Korean mission to Edo" and then denounced it as "premature, unhelpful, discouraging" by your own definition.

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Do not pretend to know nothing. You did not realize what you're doing here? Look through your own wording again. You were very sensitive at my choice of "against" to merge under "Korean mission to Edo" and then denounced it as "premature, unhelpful, discouraging" by your own definition. Then your word choices and make drama is not even surprising. Don't make a play with me, you know what your poor analysis on my contribution history, editing habits, and intention for merging the three articles are referring to and going to be. That is called "personal attacks".--Caspian blue (talk) 23:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC) ==>23:37, 28 Aug

2. According to Caspian blue, the issue at hand is my alleged "bashing" and "anti-Korea sentiment," e.g., "It is quite obvious that your anti-Korean sentiment covers your eyes and your head to not think reasonably."

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--This thread was copied from User Talk:Tenmei#YOur Personal attacks. ==>23:51, 28 Aug]

Please do not attack other editors, which you did here: Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Joseon tongsinsa. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. I have enough, what are you thinking? You would better retract your bashing comments against me. I'm not tolerable with your continued personal attacks. You pulled out irrelevant matters (comfort women, why are you using the non-English term on contrary to your claim for WP:ENGLISH?) Your personal attacks make yourself pathetic. Please do not resort to such behaviors. Think before saying vicious ad homimen attacks.--Caspian blue (talk) 23:05, 27 August 2008 (UTC) ==>23:51, 28 Aug

Be more specific. NO. We aren't going down this path. --Tenmei (talk) 23:18, 27 August 2008 (UTC) ==>23:51, 28 Aug

You ruin the whole AFD page with your rant and irrelevant matters (Liancourt Rock, Comfort women and my contribution histgory). It is quite obvious that your anti-Korean sentiment covers your eyes and your head to not think reasonably. If you can't remove such thing from the page and make a proper apology, well, I would seek normal procedures. --Caspian blue (talk) 23:21, 27 August 2008 ==>23:51, 28 Aug

3. According to Caspian blue, the issue at hand is my alleged "anti-Korea bashing," e.g., "Apology and removing your anti-Korean bashing craps from the page are strongly required."

You pretend not to how vicious languages you have intentionally chosen. I quote the notable example.

Apology and removing your anti-Korean bashing craps from the page are strongly required. --Caspian blue (talk) 23:57, 27 August 2008 (UTC) ==>23:57, 28 Aug

5. This message has five sentence in the body and three which emphasize the gravamen of the complaint in three excerpts. --Tenmei (talk) 15:45, 30 August 2008 (UTC)