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:"Only Arbitrators or Clerks should edit this page; non-Arbitrators may comment on the talk page." - From the page iself, last line of the first paragraph. Now, are you going to cut it out? ''']<sup>See ] or ]</sup>''' 22:13, 30 August 2008 (UTC) | :"Only Arbitrators or Clerks should edit this page; non-Arbitrators may comment on the talk page." - From the page iself, last line of the first paragraph. Now, are you going to cut it out? ''']<sup>See ] or ]</sup>''' 22:13, 30 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
See my talk page. Thanks. ]<sup>]</sup> 22:25, 30 August 2008 (UTC) | See my talk page. Thanks. ]<sup>]</sup> 22:25, 30 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
== A favor == | |||
Hi Ryan. I was wondering, as you are clerking the Piotrus 2 case (correct me if I'm wrong), could you have a look and refactor comments made by greg park avenue, or ask him to? He wrote I'm not sure how many policies that violates at once. If I stretch AGF to its absolute breaking point, I can convince myself it's only very poor, very offensive communication and not outright antisemitism. Even so, I think it would be best to refactor. Any help much appreciated. <font color="green">]</font> 23:06, 2 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Thank-you so much Ryan. I hope it doesn't sound wierd, but being able to do this and reach people he knew kinda makes me feel close to him. And I know he'd want me to try and do this. He lived so far away from us and now he's gone forever. Did I do this right? Jeffssister (talk) 16:56, 9 August 2008 (UTC)jeffssister
Archive
FYI
I'm saving this diff. I have no idea what it is at this point, but I'm saving it. Just an FYI. Keeper ǀ 76 21:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Right, well, I've emailed Evula about it anyway - it was my screw up. I'll happily offer my apologies to him in public if he wants me to, but I've offered sincerest apologies to him in an email. Ryan Postlethwaite 21:59, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- You know right well that I don't do IRC, or email. If you owe EVula an apology, I have no idea about it. I won't be bothered whether you do or not. I simply said I'm saving the diff. Lately, and please take this the right way, I've found myself differing from you in several arenas, which is a total surprise to me. That doesn't mean you are evil-incarnate, I would never say that. But to post something, anything, on wiki, that says "I'm watching you offline", gets my hair to stand up. Keeper ǀ 76 22:02, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Woah, it wasn't anything like that! I had logs sent to me of a group of admins completely slating me, my pictures on facebook and my name in their little channel. I misinterpreted someones name as Evula, and that made me upset because I've always got on with him extremely well, and I couldn't believe he said some of the things he was saying, especially as he's a bureaucrat. As it turns out, it was another administrator who said that - I'm still upset about it, because there were some really harsh things said about me personally, but less so because it didn't come from someone I respected as much as Evula. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:07, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- I can do nothing here but believe you. This should all go to the dustbin, IMO. Keeper ǀ 76 22:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Odd coincidence. When you told me that during my RFB you had "heard a few concerns off other people that said you wouldn't be active", I would have appreciated some honest, upfront discussion rather than leaving it to go septic. You heard harsh things about you personally? Snap. Perhaps IRC is the root of all evil/truth? The Rambling Man (talk) 22:14, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Who is that to, TRM? Keeper ǀ 76 22:16, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- The thing about you is that the concerns also said that you're a fantastic guy, great article writer and nice guy - a couple of people mentioned that you might not be that active, that's all - nobody said anything harsh about you, and I certainly can't fault you as a crat, apart from the fact that it would be nice to have you a little more active - the thing is, you haven't done anything wrong with what you've done. I'm not very good with words and my oppose against Dweller came out wrong - I didn't want to make you sound like a bad crat, you haven't been one at all. God, when the crats get paid for what they do, I guess I can start complaining about their activity levels. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:19, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Odd coincidence. When you told me that during my RFB you had "heard a few concerns off other people that said you wouldn't be active", I would have appreciated some honest, upfront discussion rather than leaving it to go septic. You heard harsh things about you personally? Snap. Perhaps IRC is the root of all evil/truth? The Rambling Man (talk) 22:14, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- I can do nothing here but believe you. This should all go to the dustbin, IMO. Keeper ǀ 76 22:12, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Woah, it wasn't anything like that! I had logs sent to me of a group of admins completely slating me, my pictures on facebook and my name in their little channel. I misinterpreted someones name as Evula, and that made me upset because I've always got on with him extremely well, and I couldn't believe he said some of the things he was saying, especially as he's a bureaucrat. As it turns out, it was another administrator who said that - I'm still upset about it, because there were some really harsh things said about me personally, but less so because it didn't come from someone I respected as much as Evula. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:07, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- You know right well that I don't do IRC, or email. If you owe EVula an apology, I have no idea about it. I won't be bothered whether you do or not. I simply said I'm saving the diff. Lately, and please take this the right way, I've found myself differing from you in several arenas, which is a total surprise to me. That doesn't mean you are evil-incarnate, I would never say that. But to post something, anything, on wiki, that says "I'm watching you offline", gets my hair to stand up. Keeper ǀ 76 22:02, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
I guess that's it. I'm doing my best to make the encyclopedia better from a number of perspectives. While an admin and a crat (and a lapsed featured list director, as of a couple of days ago) all I've ever tried to do is improve Misplaced Pages. Opposing someone like Dweller from becoming a 'crat is incredible (in my opinion) as all he does is what I've done but more. He's more mature, stable and considerate than I can ever be. I'll be disappearing for some time and it'd be great if he could just step in and (inevitably) do a better job than I've done as a 'crat. You seem to have missed my most critical point - if I wasn't doing the job then I would have appreciated a personal note. To bring it out as an aside in an oppose to someone else's RFB was really demoralising. Needless to say it's made me consider my position here. All I ask is that you consider Dweller entirely independently of me and take into account that being a 'crat is like being a referee - if you do a good job, no-one notices. As soon as you fuck up, they're all on you like a rash. In over two years, he's been a gem. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:31, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- See his RfB. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:33, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Seen it. Ryan, do me a favour. Next time you think I'm not pulling my weight, tell me. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:34, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thinking about this a lot over the past few days, I see no reason to expect any minimal level from you. You're more active than a lot of the crats there, and everything you've done has been correct. I honestly don't have any complainsts about you - you really are a good guy and I can only offer apologies for being a dick at Dweller's RfB. I've learnt a lot this week. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Seen it. Ryan, do me a favour. Next time you think I'm not pulling my weight, tell me. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:34, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- What do you want me to respond to? Ryan Postlethwaite 22:48, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- I just wanted you to talk to me personally if I'm not putting in enough "graft", as you put it. Nothing special, I'm not being precious about whole thing but since the whole thing has blown and since I really appreciate your honesty, in future I'd appreciate it if you could approach me before publicly dismissing my efforts. That's about the size of it. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:51, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry TRM, I posted at your talk page by accident, I wss meant to ask that to Keeper. Ryan Postlethwaite 22:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- I just wanted you to talk to me personally if I'm not putting in enough "graft", as you put it. Nothing special, I'm not being precious about whole thing but since the whole thing has blown and since I really appreciate your honesty, in future I'd appreciate it if you could approach me before publicly dismissing my efforts. That's about the size of it. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:51, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Ryan, just wanted to appreciate you for how you conducted yourself with the (successful) RfB. Be well, HG | Talk 10:16, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
related
I goofed, Ryan. That diff (that you rightfully removed from your talkpage) where I made comments about you personally instead of the issue at hand was a mistake. I was irked at your responses, irked at what you posted on EVula's talkpage, and felt you were dismissing me. I said, however, in that diff, not only what I was feeling at that moment, but also said I would apologize if I were proven wrong. When you removed it with a "nope", I interpretted that as an unwillingness to discuss my concern and I retorted without thinking. You have every right to remove attacks from your talkpage. I was wrong, I was editing emotionally, you have nothing to prove, and I apologize. Keeper ǀ 76 14:48, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
BN thread on renames we chatted about
See Misplaced Pages:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard#Odd_happenings_with_renames. — Rlevse • Talk • 10:02, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
User 198.65.160.28/Calton
Is Calton allowed to edit Misplaced Pages using his Anonymous Proxy server while blocked? 76.171.171.194 (talk) 21:58, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hmmm, how do you know that's his proxy? Ryan Postlethwaite 22:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Same proxy as http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:198.65.160.86, reverted IP address to name signature on talk pages on 16 August 2008. 76.171.171.194 (talk) 22:13, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- I still can't see where it's obvious it's calton. Was there another proxy address where he added his own signature to one of their contributions? Ryan Postlethwaite 00:41, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
He also used the same server February 8. Unfortunately, that talk page no longer exists. The only way to be certain is to run a CheckUser. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, e.g., provide diffs, but certain information does a way of... disappearing... 76.171.171.194 (talk) 01:49, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Re: Your RFArb statement
My apologies, but I have already dedicated all the time to this issue that I could today. I also see Deacon used 1200 words, and Irpen, 1300... My post was a response to Deacon, and I am afraid it had to be so long to be a comprehensive reply to his post. If I see a new, shorter, refactored version by him I will see about shortening my reply. Thanks, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:21, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Entropy (disambiguation)
I see you have fully protected this page ... would you mind replacing the tag at the bottom "disambig" with "disambig-cleanup" to attract the attention of editors familiar with dab pages? Thanks. Abtract (talk) 16:30, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it be better to do that after its unprotected? Synergy 16:32, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, I'm not going to change the verson after protecting it. Ryan Postlethwaite 17:16, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- I don't want to change the version just attract attention to it, but if it's a matter of principle then no problem. Abtract (talk) 07:49, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
VICS
Please could you revert the VICS dab page vandalism by user:Tile join, with it being semi-protected I can't with this account and I am not prepared to have my main account vandalised. NVFC (talk) 20:13, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yup, someone's already taken care of it. Thanks for the note. Ryan Postlethwaite 20:38, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Majorly's RfC
Are you sure you meant to endorse my view? We seem to be saying different things; you think Majorly needs to take a step back, I'm saying that he doesn't. GlassCobra 00:58, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah I meant to sign it. The only concern I have is when Majorly takes things too far. It doesn't happen often, but he sometimes starts making ad hominem attacks to defend his position. 90% of the time he's fine, but still gets flack for it, hence why I endorsed your view. I should probably put a cavaet on it actually.... Ryan Postlethwaite 01:07, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Moving forward on the BC mess
Hello Ryan, CBM, Jennavecia (same message on all three talk pages). Seems like the ANI thread has gone stale although this idea of small-committee discussion has received pretty solid support. Look, we're never going to have 30 people agreeing on who should be working on this so I'd suggest you three take a shot at it. Am I dumping this thankless task on you guys? I sure am. I don't mind helping out but BC has gotten this idea that I'm out to get him so that might just increase drama. I know Jennavecia has expressed concern that she might be viewed as a BC cheerleader but you're all reasonable people and, as Jennnavecia put it, I think you all "understand the grievances of most editors who want to see Beta banned and at the same time, find great value in his contributions". CBM has bot experience, Ryan has MedCom experience, you're all admins, you've all been around and you've all followed the various BC ANI threads and ArbCom cases enough to understand the situation. I expect that both ends on the BC-love spectrum will spit at whatever compromise you come up with but at this stage it'll have to do and cooler-heads can probably prevail... Pascal.Tesson (talk) 01:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Not having to do with anything whatsoever
I was following the Sceptre stuff and noticed your 'new' signature. It was pretty darn funny. Thanks for bringing some giggles. - Arcayne () 15:58, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hehe, thanks - I used it when I first started, but decided on a change. Now it's back in its full glory!! I'm just waiting for someone to complain that it's too long! Ryan Postlethwaite 16:03, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- Well, seeing as Tony Sidaway - the fellow doing all the sig refactoring - has changed his name to a number of wacky (and rather long) sigs, I think you should be fine. :) - Arcayne () 18:17, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
FYI
I've refactored my statement on ArbCom.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 23:40, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Main page redesign
Hello, Ryan Postlethwaite! Misplaced Pages:2008 main page redesign proposal was recently cleared of all design entries. You may want to re-enter your design(s), based on the details here. (You can see the old list of designs here). NOTE: A survey was conducted on what users wanted to see in the new main page, you can see the results here. NickPenguin(contribs) 02:02, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Badmoon35 Dyslexia edits
I also left him a note about that. I notice you're mass reverting. Is it worht it to leave it in any articles which already mention the dyslexia, those that cite it, or jsut blanket revert and let him redo it right? ThuranX (talk) 02:27, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have chance to look over my reverts and undo the edits where it's cited? I'm a little rushed for time, and I saw he was continuing despite your note so I blocked. If not, I can take a look at it tomorrow. Ryan Postlethwaite 02:31, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I'll look into it. ThuranX (talk) 02:32, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
- Cheers ThuranX - it's much appreciated. Ryan Postlethwaite 02:33, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
- Whew, done. Took 45 minutes. I restored a couple of his edits, because he'd alpha'd the cats as well, or because there was citation (or AGF info that can be cited) about it. However, he's got other BLP issues. ThuranX (talk) 03:01, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the recognition! ThuranX (talk) 03:22, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
It's been a couple days, and
no resolution. cna you review this thread? I know you put out one fire already tonight, but this one's a CHILD issue, so it should be urgent. ThuranX (talk) 03:22, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hmmmm, there currently an MfD at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:DCFan101/Movies which has a number of the pages on it. Are there any more of concern? Could you email me (ryanpostlethwaite@hotmail.com) about the CHILD issue? Best done off-wiki. Ryan Postlethwaite 03:26, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
emailed you last night.ThuranX (talk) 13:09, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for mediation/Singapore Airlines#Opening statements
Thanks for posting on my talk page about the above. I feel I should point out to you the following, User_talk:Huaiwei#Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_mediation.2FSingapore_Airlines.23Opening_statements. The "I'll reply as I see fit" is IMO a tactic, as was used at Misplaced Pages:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2008-02-22_Singapore_Airlines with no replies in over a month. I'll let you draw your conclusions in regards to this, and what steps to take. Cheers --Russavia 10:29, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ryan, as seven days have now passed from notifying all editors for their opening statement, and taking into account the above, and WP:RFM stating that editors need to provide responses within 7 days, I would ask for the RFM to continue to take place without User:Huaiwei; although he would be bound by the results of any consensus which comes as a result of the RFM. Given the extra retorts he has provided on his own talk page, his own contributions, and his interjection on my talk page on matters not pertaining to him or this issue, and his reinsertion of same comments after I removed them (all the while reminding him he needs to attend to the RFM), it can only be assumed that he intends on dragging this out for as long as possible, and that in my mind is not acceptable. If 11 out of the 12 editors can find 30 seconds to provide a statement which would allow this RFM to proceed, and given the extra-curricular editing done by Huaiwei, then said editor could also find those 30 seconds. The process can not be allowed to be drawn out (after some 18 months) because one editor believes they can respond when they "see fit"; this has occurred in the past, and is why we are now at RFM. --Russavia 22:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
A Request
Is it possible if you could delete the Click house article? It has no sources, it looks made up, and it's another name for Microhouse. Noble12345 (talk) 14:45, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
A suggestion re: the BC proposal
Ryan, I’m not inclined to plunge into the Betacommand swamp, but regarding the proposal, I’m wondering if it would be any value to have a ’crat “close” any polling that occurs on the VPR. Frankly, whenever he posts a script or anything there for community review, that thread is going to end up looking like the present AN/I subpage. All his enemies are going to weigh in with “nays” and his supporters “nays”. Having a mere admin close it will subject that person to nasty assertions of partisanship and for the same reasons the blocks and their removals do. A ’crat might just be seen as above the fray. Just a suggestion. Askari Mark (Talk) 22:28, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
ref Please
"only arbitrators are to edit the proposed decision page" •Jim62sch• 22:10, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
- "Only Arbitrators or Clerks should edit this page; non-Arbitrators may comment on the talk page." - From the page iself, last line of the first paragraph. Now, are you going to cut it out? Ryan Postlethwaite 22:13, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
See my talk page. Thanks. •Jim62sch• 22:25, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
A favor
Hi Ryan. I was wondering, as you are clerking the Piotrus 2 case (correct me if I'm wrong), could you have a look and refactor comments made by greg park avenue, or ask him to? He wrote I don't bother with our Lithuanian friends - they were pals or allies of us polacks since centuries - we always get along and will find common ground, mind just Boody and his obvious supporters/sockpuppets who seem to play Jew but they don't sound like that. My impression is they try to impersonate the negative stereotype of Jewish people. I'm not sure how many policies that violates at once. If I stretch AGF to its absolute breaking point, I can convince myself it's only very poor, very offensive communication and not outright antisemitism. Even so, I think it would be best to refactor. Any help much appreciated. IronDuke 23:06, 2 September 2008 (UTC)