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==Adoption offers?== ==Adoption offers?==
I have placed a template indicating that I am seeking an adopter on my current talk page (scroll to top). For context, please see my archive 21 and 22 and current discussion in ], initiated by ]. Thank you. --] (]) 21:26, 7 September 2008 (UTC) I have placed a template indicating that I am seeking an adopter on my current talk page (scroll to top). For context, please see my archive 21 and 22 and current discussion in ], initiated by ]. Thank you. --] (]) 21:26, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== Adoption Request ==

I've taken a look over the Admin Noticeboard and the talk page archives you pointed me at. I would be willing to mentor you, but you need to understand that I believe some of the complaints being made about the way you communicate on Misplaced Pages are valid. This doesn't mean that everything you are doing is wrong and it appears that this really only applies to using talk pages - from what I can see of your article work, it is very impressive. I would like to work to improve the way you communicate and want to make sure that you are willing to do so as part of mentorship. There are a couple of things I see that I believe would make a large improvement in your experience here very quickly:

*Its difficult to determine the gender of other editors just by screen name, so editors will often make their best guess and use that pronoun. More often than not, editors will default to using a male pronoun when they are unsure. You've mentioned before that you dislike this assumption and that you have been offended by other editors using a pronoun when trying to communicate with you and this has caused tension and disputes with other editors that distracts from the actual discussion. In order to avoid having this problem reoccur, you need to either decide on a mode of address that you feel is acceptable and politely let editors know or you need to decide to ignore editors occasional guesses at gender in order to discuss other issues with them. Let me know which option you think is better (or if you have another solution).

*Communicating on the internet is difficult at best; without body language or tone of voice to give you clues, its easy to misunderstand each other. This is what the Misplaced Pages guideline of assuming good faith is all about - if you find yourself thinking that a comment a person made was rude, incivil or an attack on you, walk away for a bit. Come back to the comment later and see if you can't find a different way of understanding what they wrote.

I'm sure there are other things we will find as we go along that will help you learn to get along easier in the Misplaced Pages community. <font face="Tempus Sans ITC" color="#2B0066">] <sup>]</sup></font> 01:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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Disclaimer: NYScholar is not in any way affiliated with a personal website called nyscholar.com. This Misplaced Pages log-in identity is simply descriptive: "NYScholar" is an academic scholar who resides in New York. This Misplaced Pages log-in identity, used since June 30, 2005, pre-dates the existence of that website, which began on January 30, 2007.


Talk · Userboxes  · Barnstars  · Contributions  · Misplaced Pages Copyright-related Issues N.B.: Please do not copy my comments placed on my talk page or other talk pages or editing histories of articles, or other Misplaced Pages pages, take them out of context, and/or move them elsewhere. Doing so distorts them. Thank you.

Further information: § N.B., WP:UP, WP:TPG, WP:NPA, WP:Etiquette, WP:CIVIL, and WP:HAR

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N.B.

  • This is my User talk page. I archive comments on this user talk page as is my prerogative, according to WP:TPG#User talk pages & WP:UP (and the current archive bot). See the "Archives" box (to right) for the archived pages.
  • Please see the tags at the top of this page. I move comments that others add to this page if I perceive them to have been misdirected and/or I archive them when I feel discussions are over and/or when I have no further time to participate in them. If comments involve "personal attacks", are unsigned and/or undated, or are uncivil "warnings", I delete them, following WP:UP, WP:TPG, WP:NPA, WP:Etiquette, WP:CIVIL, and/or WP:HAR.
  • Please place comments about making improvements to articles on the talk pages of those articles. Thank you.
  • Due to my own other priorities (related to my own professional work and travel schedule), I am turning back to focusing on my own non-Misplaced Pages related work. Thanks very much to those who do understand for understanding. I appreciate your compassion.
  • Since first posting this, I have attempted to make some corrections to and to update a few articles that I have worked hard on recently, but I really do need to focus on my own work in order to get it done on schedule. I have to go offline to do it. For extended periods of time, I will not be logging back into Misplaced Pages.
  • The abbreviation "tc" in my editing box summaries stands for "typographical corrections."

Image uploading

This explains what I was getting at earlier. It has been decided that in order for a work to be free, for Wikimedia's purposes, it needs to be out of copyright, or under a free license, in both the United States and the country of origin. I agreed from the start the images from Poland are copyrighted, but I am looking to see what else needs to be done. But I personally think that we should remove the reference to the youtube video and delete one of the actual photos. User:Zscout370 07:03, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

But this image has been uploaded to Misplaced Pages, not Misplaced Pages Commons. The earlier version of the image was deleted from Misplaced Pages Commons due to "copyright violation" by an administrator . --NYScholar (talk) 07:41, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
The source is YouTube; the uploader took the material from YouTube and from a blog which took the image from that very deleted Misplaced Pages image from Misplaced Pages Commons; the copyright violations are in the uploader's sources. --NYScholar (talk) 07:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
There is no "actual photo"; there is just a YouTube copy of an image taken from elsewhere; there is no way to know who photographed it; the video on YouTube is a compilation of stills taken from unidentified sources. It is wholly unreliable as a source. --NYScholar (talk) 07:44, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Uploaders in Misplaced Pages have to cite their actual sources; the photograph is not taken by this uploader (Poeticbent). The one uploaded to Misplaced Pages Commons was uploaded by another user in 2006 who hasn't been back since ; it was deleted recently due to "copyright violation"; that user created the Kwoka article, which was almost deleted due to "notability" concerns; I've worked hard to document "notability"; the dubious image(s) should not jeopardize that article. --NYScholar (talk) 07:46, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
I was asked to look at the discussion Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Czesława Kwoka by User:Ecoleetage around August 28, 2008. Since then, I have worked hard to develop the article with sources of notability so that it could be kept in Misplaced Pages and other related articles on Wilhelm Brasse (Auschwitz photographer) and The Portraitist, a film about him. My awareness of Poeticbent only occurred in relation to what I and many others have regarded as the problematic images that Poeticbent has uploaded to Misplaced Pages, which I noticed only since August 28, 2008. My concern is with the integrity of the articles about Kwoka, Brasse, and the film; not about any one particular uploader. There is nothing "personal" about my discussion of the potential violations of Misplaced Pages image policies and guidelines relating to potential copyright violations, as I have investigated the sources for the articles that I have edited. I am one of the major contributors to all three articles and created two of them. The creator of the article on Czesława Kwoka (See its editing history) (contributions listed there) also uploaded an image to Misplaced Pages Commons (and Misplaced Pages) which has since been deleted by an administrator (not I) for "copyright violation". The images uploaded by Poeticbent all derive from the Museum exhibition for Block no. 6: The Lives of the Prisoners; the copyright violations being perceived have to do with the larger photographic image previously deleted from which the 3-pose photograph and the single enlarged pose image have been copied. --NYScholar (talk) 21:31, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
; the WC image page has related discussion and Skyliber's talk page in WC has discussion, I think. --NYScholar (talk) 22:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)]

Deleted offensive personal attack and threatening uncivil comments by an anonymous IP user; See "N.B." above. I delete unsigned comments and uncivil comments from my user talk space. The discussion is clearly taking place in WP:FUR/WP:NFR; comments can be made about the matter there. I maintain this user talk page as stated. The comments removed are visible in editing history. --NYScholar (talk) 22:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey there, as you may know, I withdrew my RfA earlier this week. I am sorry if I disappointed you, as you stated your support for my endeavours. However, I could not tolerate the stress brought by the personal attacks and hostility that were being aimed my way. I am on Wikibreak now (just checking the site to make sure no one goofed up my pages) and I am not certain when or if I will resume full editing. But I wanted to say Hello and share my appreciation for your friendship. Ecoleetage (talk) 04:22, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Much appreciated, Ecoleetage! I have seen the RfA; I am sorry for what you went through. I really hoped it would not lead to what occurred; with scores of editors in support, it is too bad that a handful of opposers caused such grief. I hope that you will enjoy your time away. You have not disappointed me at all. --NYScholar (talk) 04:28, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Your message

No problem :) After seeing the IP at WP:OPD, I immediately found out where it came from through Google. Spellcast (talk) 02:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome

You're welcome. And thank you very much for your smile.   ■ MMXX 14:37, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Adoption offers?

I have placed a template indicating that I am seeking an adopter on my current talk page (scroll to top). For context, please see my archive 21 and 22 and current discussion in WP:AN/I#NYScholar issues revisited, initiated by User:Orderinchaos. Thank you. --NYScholar (talk) 21:26, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Adoption Request

I've taken a look over the Admin Noticeboard and the talk page archives you pointed me at. I would be willing to mentor you, but you need to understand that I believe some of the complaints being made about the way you communicate on Misplaced Pages are valid. This doesn't mean that everything you are doing is wrong and it appears that this really only applies to using talk pages - from what I can see of your article work, it is very impressive. I would like to work to improve the way you communicate and want to make sure that you are willing to do so as part of mentorship. There are a couple of things I see that I believe would make a large improvement in your experience here very quickly:

  • Its difficult to determine the gender of other editors just by screen name, so editors will often make their best guess and use that pronoun. More often than not, editors will default to using a male pronoun when they are unsure. You've mentioned before that you dislike this assumption and that you have been offended by other editors using a pronoun when trying to communicate with you and this has caused tension and disputes with other editors that distracts from the actual discussion. In order to avoid having this problem reoccur, you need to either decide on a mode of address that you feel is acceptable and politely let editors know or you need to decide to ignore editors occasional guesses at gender in order to discuss other issues with them. Let me know which option you think is better (or if you have another solution).
  • Communicating on the internet is difficult at best; without body language or tone of voice to give you clues, its easy to misunderstand each other. This is what the Misplaced Pages guideline of assuming good faith is all about - if you find yourself thinking that a comment a person made was rude, incivil or an attack on you, walk away for a bit. Come back to the comment later and see if you can't find a different way of understanding what they wrote.

I'm sure there are other things we will find as we go along that will help you learn to get along easier in the Misplaced Pages community. Shell 01:40, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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