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ANI

You said that you were concerned that an admin, Nandesuka, used admin powers on an article he was involved with. If you look at the article, you will see that his involvement was limited to deleting the image which he said violated copyright. Therefore, there is no conflict.

Also, we have wikitionary to define terms. An encyclopedic entry would need to discuss origins, uses, etc, besides just merely defining. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:53, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I have removed the off-topic chat from the ANI page. If you would like to continue discussion of the merits of the Pearl necklace (sexuality) article, please do so by email or on talk pages. Thank you. Exploding Boy (talk) 18:47, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

If you would like to comment on my behavior, please do not post it here. That list is reserved for a handful of admin and other users that stay involved in my discussion participations. If you have a comment, please restrict it to this. Thanks. Ottava Rima (talk) 23:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

(reply from his talk page)

I put a comment exactly where it belonged. It was something you needed to WATCH, so I put it there. If you cannot learn from your massive errors, how will you learn from minor ones. I fear your tutelage is not going as well as it should. I admire passion, but I admire admitting when you are out of your league/wrong even moreso. Your tutors need to know exactly how badly you're doing so that they can either help, or bail. Based on your commentary in AN/I (as polite as I could have been) you're not doing so well. You had many chances to save face, but you've succeeded in doing something extremely difficult: entering my "bad editor" books. Your snotty comment served to confirm it. Good luck BMW(drive) 23:50, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Holy Crap

What the hell did you and 88 do while I was away? I guess we don't have to worry about FoJ anymore.

Also, never noticed you were from Ottawa. Didn't know I had run across a fellow... Ottawean? Ottawite?

Anyway, good editing! --Thaddius (talk) 18:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Careful, someone will now think we're friends in person/sockpuppets of each other and file a complaint! BMW(drive) 18:59, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll admit that one user (and I won't say who) probably needled her just a little too much, and those of us who were trying to help her got "lumped in". We all know she'll be back, and it will be obvious when it happens. While I usually admire passion, she needs some guidance to become a good editor. BMW(drive) 11:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again. Do you know if I am the 'Mr. T' that Weisheit keeps referring to in comments like this one? Or was there someone actually named Mr. T that she dealt with? --Thaddius (talk) 15:41, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Short version of my reply on his talk page: No, it's someone else :P BMW(drive) 22:32, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Your sadness

You wrote:

As sad as it is (and so contrary to logic) I would have to say that en.beijing2008.cn is canonical for the naming/translation standard into English. Of course, if they suddenly hire a bunch of local translaters, it will change quickly ;)

Why are you sad? And what is the logic that is contradicted here? Sorry if I'm missing something. And why would anything change if the translators were local? The Chinese generally prefer American English (though not as strongly as Japanese and Koreans). Actually, how do you even know the translators aren't local? Just curious. Sorry if I said something that made you said. Samuel Webster (talk) 17:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

(reply from his talk page)

I saw your messages both AN/I and on my talk page. Let me begin with saying that I am NOT anti-American. I am, however, Canadian, and use the Queen's English like almost all of the English-speaking world except for the US.

As those who study language admit, the dropping of Queen's English in the US was primarily a political statement, so the "u" got dropped from odour, and "centre" became "center". Linguistics professors around the world (and the US) call this the "Bastardization of the English Language". That makes me sad. The use of Americanized English by some Canadian newspapers makes me sad.

Please note, I have specified in the AN/I that since en.beijing2008.cn uses Americanized English, then the use of "Center" instead of the IOC standard of "Centre" is correct.

However - a "metre" is a standard unit of measure. A "meter" is something you measure with.

Please only change the words in the article that actually should be changed.

I do not wish to argue languages with you, but would be happy to assist in other issues as required BMW(drive) 18:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

My tutored editor

Bwilkins, thaks; I was offilne for 3 days during which you posted to me - sorry about that. I don't see any problem here with this now; it seems to have blown off in the immetiate term, at least as regards Ottava. Disenge is the mantra with him these days, and i see that here - he stuck up for himself; after that left it go and went for his rest. Ceoil 02:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

AFD

I go by what is in the film guidelines, A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Schuym1 (talk) 23:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

I think that the article will be fine if it gets at least one more review. Also, sites like Amazon aren't reliable sources. Schuym1 (talk) 02:54, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Dinosaur Island (2002 film)

• Popular in Italy
• Popular in Hungary
• You might study THIS and see if other country releases help your notability.

Schmidt, 05:53, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

• here's THIS and THIS. Schmidt, 06:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
• From taking part in the AfD discussion, I noticed that someone thought you were right on the edge of proving notability. Every little bit helps. Better to be oversourced than not enough. Schmidt, 18:16, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Confused

You've just given a hearty welcome to http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:ChubmasterFat

A user whose only contributions were vandalism and who has been blocked by another admin. Is there something the rest of us are missing perchance?The Thunderer (talk) 16:18, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Short version of my reply: even donkeychasms deserve a welcome every now and then :) BMW(drive) 22:33, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

User:Samuel Webster and User:Bwilkins

Hey, I've got a great idea! Since neither of you wants to hear from the other, and since your interactions consist entirely of each putting template warnings on the others's talk pages and deleting them from your own, why not just leave each other alone for a while? Wouldn't that be fun? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 18:02, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Seeing as that's what I asked for about 2 weeks ago, it would be nice. The bit about warnings is a bit off, though. Of course, not being called "racist" and "prejudiced" would help too. BMW(drive) 18:20, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Greetings and a query.

Hello there, you may remember me from that unpleasantness involving Fragments of Jade. Got a question about my watchlist that I hope you can help me with. It often shows an edit made to an article, but not subsequent edits after that, even if they are made by a different IP/user. F'r instance, I see a large deletion by an anon IP, check it out and find that yes, it was vandalism but has been reverted. But the reversion or other subsequent edits do not show up on my watchlist. It's not one of those server lag things either, as this happens all the time, regardless of whether there's a lag warning up or not. Advice appreciated, as this is niggling me.Mr T (Based) (talk) 10:51, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Did as you advised, same as before, the page shows up with the initial edit, but not following ones. I'm not hiding any edits at all in my options, either. Yours confusedly, Mr T (Based) (talk) 11:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

It's all of them, I think. Probably the most clear example is Resident Evil 3: Nemesis. When looking at the article's history, http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Resident_Evil_3:_Nemesis&action=history, the edit by 96.234.169.132 shows up on my watchlist, but the previous edit by 204.210.142.253 does not. Thanks for taking the time to help.Mr T (Based) (talk) 12:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Only one I have ticked is "Add pages I create to my watchlist". So I'm seeing all edits including minor ones, bot ones, anonymous, logged-in and even my own edits.Mr T (Based) (talk) 12:54, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Didn't have the first box ticked, that's why! Thanks and apologies for being as thick as mince.Mr T (Based) (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 12:56, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help with the archive, it's all new to me.Mr T (Based) (talk) 14:11, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Proposals on Template talk:Sexual orientation

Hi, you've contributed to past discussions on the Template talk:Sexual orientation page and we are now in the process of noting which of several proposals might help resolve some current content disputes. Your opinion to offer Support, Oppose, and Comment could help us see if there is consensus to approve any of these proposals. It's been suggested to only offer a Support on the one proposal you most favor but it's obviously to each editor's discretion to decide what works for them. Banjeboi 23:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Keeping your coin

Hey, thanks for the Canadian coin in the Everyking RfA.  :-)

How is life (mis)treating you? Ecoleetage (talk) 03:00, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey, it is good to know that the Wiki culture of insults and false accusations is alive and well. I was just accused of sockpuppetry in an AfD debate because some new editor that I greeted as part of the Welcoming Committee voted in my favour. Incredible, eh? Keep in touch! Ecoleetage (talk) 12:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Hello, Thank you very much for welcoming me... :) Sicenrely, --RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk) 23:23, 28 August 2008 (UTC) .

You're quite welcome! BMW(drive) 23:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

and thank you for the answer ;) :D —Preceding unsigned comment added by RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk • contribs) 23:51, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Help!!!!!

Hi, yesterday I wrote an article about "The Poetto" (The beach of Cagliari Sardinia) which is a perfect translation of the article "Poetto" in the italian wikipedia. The problem is that I didn't put any references or source cause I haven't found anything in English, an other user told me to link source/references in Italian would be ok due to the lacking of article in English and so I did but the template that say the article hasn't got any source or references is still there, I'm not English I'm Italian, and I spent an entire day to translate that article so I really don't want it to be removed, the italian version is ok, there are no template or any kind of advice so I suppose my English version is okay too..... please Help!!!!!!! Lawrencerock (talk) 07:16, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Ryerson University Page

I think you editors need to back off and not attempt to bully new wiki users. I have provided valid reasoning for my edits, provided edit summaries, only to have them undone without explanation repeatedly and then accused of starting an edit war when the other guy is undoing and not providing explanations. I take offense to being called a vandal and think that is not civil at all. Just because you are both editors does not give you the right to gang up on less established writers. How do I get someone blocked from editing? because undoing my edits and just crying VANDALISM without justification is NOT RIGHT.

Oh and my edits? I took out the section talking about Ryerson Publishing House, which has no affliating with the university besides its name, and the long history about egerton ryerson, because the history does not talk about how he started ryerson. He has his own article for everything non-university related. I really think you guys are just adding fluff to the article for no reason. It's ridiculous.

Musicmogul09 (talk) 15:16, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Whoa. First, see my reply on the Ryerson talk page. My role when I try mediate a dispute that has been filed in the Wikiquette forum is to help, not bully. If you're a new editor, it gives us a chance to start you off in the right direction. First, ALWAYS discuss major changes/deletions and gain consensus before single-handedly deleting large chunks of information from an article - or else it is, indeed, vandalism. Second, please be CIVIL ... edit summaries are PERMANENT, and referring to someone as a "dumbass" on a permanent record can usually get you banned. You will also be more likely to get your suggestions through if you're cooperative, rather than being combative. "Consensus", "Civility" and "Assume Good Faith" are the main keys. PS: I had no relationship with that article until this morning, even though I know a lot about the subject. BMW(drive) 16:27, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I can see that consensus, civility and assume good faith are important. BUT I think it's important NOT to automatically accuse somebody of vandalism and assume they are not acting in good faith. And to try to intimidate them because you (in your expect opinion, contrary to the whole wiki thing from what i hear) think they are vandals and you try to get them banned. Look at the summaries and note that I DID put comments in the history section. These were IGNORED. Also, no comments were put in reponse to any undo changes. Just because I don't know how to fill out a wiki: etiquette comment, and i don't know that editors assume vandalism over edits they don't agree with because they are biased, doesn't mean i should be intimidated. What you are doing is limited wiki to a SMALL NUMBER of people who likely are ALL HOMOGENOUS in thought.

Maybe I should edit more, and then GOAD new editors into getting themselves banned because I know the ins and outs of the system.

• If you don't want new editors to be combative, maybe you should communicate more rather than undoing without comment, and accuse them of vandalising and threaten to get them banned*. I'm not saying that was you, but it is what happened. Now it has escalated into a pointless edit war because an experienced editor CHOSE to NOT show consensus, civility and good faith. Musicmogul09 (talk) 20:49, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks for the reply, and I understand that you're both pissed off and possibly (slightly) confused. First, whether or not you properly create an edit summary or not, any time you delete massive blocks of text, it will raise suspicions of vandalism ... in fact, there are some automated bots that will AUTOMATICALLY revert, and warn you for vandalism for exactly that infraction. Secondly, I personally believe that EVERYONE has something to add to Misplaced Pages (and have often been badly burned by defending this right). I personally may be chock full of useless information, but I am not an expert on every subject - as such, everyone has more to add than I do. The only complaint is how to do those edits. An article that has contained certain information for months/years/weeks has attained some degree of consensus, so massive edits run contrary to consensus - as such, I recommended to you that you discuss massive changes in advance. Whether you like the fact that your undiscussed edit was reverted never gives anyone the right to act uncivilly .. in fact, I think they were pretty tame with you, all things considered. Look, I think you have a lot of good things to do and say on Misplaced Pages, just please, for the sake of the entire project (and your own blood pressure) just do things the right way ... and yes, your suggestions may not be accepted, but at least they've been heard (like on any courtroom drama...and trust me, this place is full of drama) BMW(drive) 22:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Dinosaur Island (2002 film)

Got lucky. Its a keep... barely. I'll keep my eyes open for more sources. Schmidt, 23:12, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry??

Hi regarding to that...

I had username Aradic-en before this unified login was enabled. On commons i was registered as "Aradic-es". (that was because I did not know that can use same name on different wikis. That is the reason not any sort of sockpuppetry. I ca no longer (since middle of July) contribute as "Aradic-en" but exclusively as "Aradic-es"

http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Aradic-en

http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/Aradic-es

--Añtó| Àntó (talk) 05:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Thrindel-Zell disagreements

I'm not reporting him for anything, nor am I going to go around spreading any suspicions to anyone who will listen because it's just that, a suspicion. His actions make me question his motives, is all. I don't want to slander or defame any Wikipedians here. I just wish he would stop being so defensive on the CAD talk pages. It's getting hard to find a second opinion over there, because he seems to have scared off the newbies. Zell65 (talk) 00:00, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Are We There Yet?

Hi Bwilkins. I just joined Misplaced Pages on Saturday so I don't know how to do very much yet. Please tell me if I did this wrong! You asked on my talk page Does anyone have an episode list for Are We There Yet? I know where there is one, at http://tv.msn.com/tv/series-episodes/are-we-there-yet-world-adventure/?ipp=40. I'm sorry, I don't know how to write it so you can just click on it and go there. Teenly (talk) 13:31, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I guess it was easier than I thought! Teenly (talk) 13:32, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Awesome! I'll work with that! BMW(drive) 13:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I have not seen the ones after 49 so they must be new. I have not seen TJ and Tristan or Julia and Joanna either. They are not in the Misplaced Pages article yet. Their last names are at Internet Movie Database http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1170040/. Thank you for the welcome! I like to learn things myself but if I get really stuck I will ask you. Teenly (talk) 14:11, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

???

21 external links, prove it to yourself and read them. They are all right there. He's in all the magazines, he's on all the mixtapes, he was incremental in launching the careers of Bishop Lamont, The Game, Strong Arm Steady. He literally CREATED the mixtape game on the westcoast and has since been expanding, anyone in hip hop knows this information my friend, and the 21 links has all that information at your fingertips. Prove that he is actually someone? This man works with Dr. Dre, works with countless producers that I am sure YOU have never heard of, yet produce multi-platinum material that you most likely listen too. Why don't you do some research and edit yourself? I have put all the information as a fan would onto the entry as he more than deserves to be on wikipedia as the artists that he broke in the westcoast have there own full length page. Dont you think that it would make sense to have a legend on wikipedia so his fans can look him up on this site? I have barely used wikipedia, I personally don't have a week to sit there and edit and edit and edit a page until it is up to your standards. It is 100% accurate to the information provided, and you yourself should cite the links, cite the interviews, cite rolling stone, Urb, XXL, Vibe and the countless other magazines he has appeared in, and write the article. Thank you. --Journaldiction (talk) 20:07, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

AFD

I noticed your comments on WP:WQA and thought you might want to weigh in on this AFD. Dreadstar † 03:38, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

DJ Warrior

Hey, I have now included all the references on the entry, it is 100% official from the many many credible sources floating about on the internet. If you could please indicate that it stays on Misplaced Pages as the information is all referenced and 100% official from credible sites and sources, that would be great. Thanks so much, and have a good weekend! --Journaldiction (talk) 21:21, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

New Messages

←Signed:→Mr. E. Sánchez / _{Talk to me!}←at≈:→ 10:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

RhoLyokoWarrior

Could I get your help with this user? I simply cannot reason with him. See his latest edit summary. Since it's fair use I could revert all day and night, but he's just going to become more and more belligerent each time. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 04:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, another user dealt with him. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 04:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: User_talk:Collectonian#page_blanking_.28almost.29.3F

is it gratifying for you to be nasty and belittle people who are still learning? if it was your intention to make me feel inferior, you failed.Coffee joe (talk) 10:06, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

How about re-read the post with a different tone. I was politely advising you of what happened so that you, a new user, can understand. I also left you a welcome on your Talk page, so "Welcome". BMW(drive) 11:12, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

i did re-read it, and as i see you're a professional wordsmith, i shouldn't need to explain to you why the tone of it was condescending. while it was on an other user's talk page, i don't understand your implication on my talk page that i should not have responded to it, because it was said to me. i didn't respond on that user's talk page because i didn't want to clutter up her page with a dialogue between you and me. as for my response to what you said, i may be guilty of responding in kind. but the bottom line is, i was having a civil dialogue with a user and got smaked by a third party. while i might have responded in a better way, i do feel that a responce was warrented. i'm willing to admit my mistakes and proverbially shake hands. are you? Coffee joe (talk) 00:24, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I am not responsible for how you wrongly "interpreted" something. I think that what you SEEM to neglect is the big WELCOME at the top of your TALK page, and who put it there. If I was trying to blade you somewhere, would I have been friendly at the same time? I also, on that same person's talk page, defended your actions overall..where does that fit into your equation that I was being less than cordial? I am one of the FIRST people to welcome and help new users...and although we have a policy about "not biting the newbies", how about "not biting those that help the newbies from the start"? BMW(drive) 11:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi -- I wanted to thank you for helping me with my etiquette problem. I think I've spent too much in academia and have a lower tolerance for bad manners than many other editors do. I really appreciate your providing third-party perspective. Dealing with the alerts is a great service for the community. best, Aryder779 (talk) 16:32, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Template: Vague time

I once saw a guideline about this when browsing through the Manual of Style. I am currently reaserching where I saw that. If I cannot find it, I will remove the template. In the mean time it seems Wikipidia is behind me because the template has been semi-protected. So far I have found this and this. In addition, these words make a statement less clear, which is always bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ipatrol (talk • contribs)

FYI

I have already asked Arbitrator User:FayssalF to review that WQA thread. Perhaps we can both wait for him to mediate this dispute, before taking further steps. I respect his opinion and will follow whatever guidance he provides. It is usually a good idea to avoid starting a drama when matters can be solved via direct discussions.

Additionally, to answer your question, Professor Dolores Umbridge was a character in Harry Potter OotP and DH. Jehochman 19:35, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:OUT or WP:OUTING

Hi, I tried to understand the context of 'outed' in you comments, and finally think I got it! Did you mean WP:OUTING instead of WP:OUT? 216.80.119.92 (talk) 20:40, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I have set up a fresh discussion thread on my talk page regarding this matter. Feel free to comment or lurk. Jehochman 04:28, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Fixed it to WP:OUTING ... my bad, sometimes I just should not type before coffee :) BMW(drive) 12:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Your comment on my Talk page

Hi, I edit quite a few articles. What edit summary and article are you talking about? Longchenpa (talk) 01:34, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, looked into it. This is user ZuluPapa. Yet again.

ZuluPapa doesn't like my edits to the Jetsunma Ahkon Lhamo page over the last year or so. There's a biography by Random House about JAL that ZuluPapa didn't want used in the article because it has some pretty negative information. JAL is a Buddhist Lama who was arrested 1996 for beating a monk and nun, has a swimming pool, three houses, and a salary of $100k a year. These facts are inconvenient.

ZuluPapa put in an RfC insisting that JAL is not a public figure, and thus this biography should not be included. Eventually Mike Godwin weighed in on the subject: The book is in. Then, ZP said Mike Godwin has a WP:COI on this issue.

ZuluPapa went to the Misplaced Pages talk:Biographies of living persons page to work to get this book removed there, as well as to the Biographies Noticeboard, pressing a for policy changes that could get this information removed. ZuluPapa asked Protonk to weigh in. Protonk did, and also found that JAL was a public figure.

ZuluPapa did sweeping edits on the article, removing anything negative that was from that book -- but kept everything that was positive from it.

Then, ZuluPapa preemptively cited me for a 3RR before I'd made a single change. My changes were normal edits.

ZuluPapa was informed by Blanchardb that "None of these edits can be even remotely regarded as reverts." But ZuluPapa accused me elsewhere of multiple reverts, even though this was not true.

When outside editor Ricky81682 stepped in, , ZuluPapa accused him of being uncivil.

ZuluPapa has complained about me in every possible forum. It's like a tour of sorts. I get to see every possible venue of complaint on WP. But it has nothing to do with me and everything to do with ZuluPapa wanting to control the editing of the Jetsunma Ahkon Lhamo article. My guess is, based on ZuluPapa's edits -- which Zenwhat calls a "whitewash," and I heartily agree -- ZuluPapa is a student of JAL's, with a vested interest in removing anything negative.

Is there a point where this becomes harassment? Because this has been going since, jeeze, the first veiled threat from ZuluPapa to me "I haven't investigated, however there are wiki procedure to exclude folks from contributing to articles" was December 16 of last year. Longchenpa (talk) 10:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I probably should have created the Talk page on the Jetsun article, but it didn't seem necessary since ZuluPapa was already aware that Alyce Zeoli's title was given by her students and not the lineage. As soon the Talk page was created, yes, we confirmed what we both already knew. *shrugs* Longchenpa (talk) 21:08, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

A notice

Hi Bwilkins,

Please have a look at my opinion here. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me again. Thanks. fayssal - Wiki me up 02:04, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

I would say that you and I are on the exact same page on this fayssal, and that it helps when we all read the whole background. As an uninvolved, non-admin editor who only got involved through my patrolling of WP:WQA, I tend to do a lot of background reading, especially comparing what proof was provided, vice what was left out. My only (minor) disagreement with your conclusion: the user had been outed once. Editors then kept re-outing him by linking his IP address...therefore I do not blame the editor for continuing to desire anonymity by changing IP addresses. Heck, if I was being chased, I would keep trying to hide too. In addition, although cursing is never to be condoned, I sure don't blame him/her for getting a little bit p'd off and finally saying "leave me the $$$$ alone!" and filing in WQA as again, after being chased, I would do the same thing. Again, I'm glad we have a similar analysis (although mine was much less verbose :-P ) BMW(drive) 09:31, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Re outing. That's true and I hope I was clear enough... any further outing will be faced with an immediate block. Thanks for your help. -- fayssal - 09:50, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

ORISSA VIOLENCE

The Page is under Mediation. However, several POV edits have been made during the past 72 hours.

Jobxavier (talk) 19:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Vague Time Template

I have created this essay and found this style guidline. I also created the inline template {{Template:Specific time}}. --Ipatrol (talk) 03:42, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Wall of Shame

Thanks for the heads up. I'd still like to hear from an administrator, but I don't want the wall of shame to personally offend anyone. I figured that, since there's already a list of IP adresses that have been used for vandalism, that this wasn't really a big deal. I tried to be civil about it though, and stated exactly what I meant by it. I certainly wouldn't liken it to "hanging deer heads in my library" or "outing sex offenders upon release from prison." I try to make it clear that if someone is generally making constructive edits, and the vandalism that I will take their names off. Their name on the wall is not permanent, as outlined on my user page under "Policies."

You've even been advised that your WoS is the antecedent to the behaviour by at least one other editor, so I'm not sure why you raise a WQA with a tone of surprise.

I've actually never gotten any feedback about the WoS, (other than threats from Faethon Ghost) so I assumed it wasn't bothering anybody. Also, I don't really see how I mishandled the situation with User: Faethon Ghost. It would help to know what I did wrong, so I can avoid it in the future. I didn't add him to the wall of shame for personal reasons, and not to provoke him. Only because of the repeated vandalism of Paul Byrd, List of pigs and my user page. Faethon Ghost 1) did not seem to be too sorry about his vandalism 2)the vandalism was less than a month ago and 3)Faethon Ghost really hasn't done too much since then, so I don't have much to go by.

I would think that you should post an apology on the talk page of EVERY editor on your Wall once you have removed it. Feel free to say "although I will continue to monitor for continued possible vandalism, I do actually look forward to your positive edits in Misplaced Pages"

1) Most of the users are just sockpuppets that are banned indefinitely 2) I don't feel an apology is needed. I didn't say anything bad about them, didn't condemn them, didn't personally attack them, and didn't pass off any false information.

I don't see the Wall of Shame as anything important, but I promise as soon as I get a complaint from an admin I will tear down the wall. :) --Friginator 21:34, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Update: The comments you left on my talk page are disturbing. If you truly feel offended, then I think an admin is needed. If this is going to upset people, then I need someone with authority to step in and make a final descision. I don't want other users losing their respect for me over a little wall. I'm sorry. I'm not asking for an AN/I, just an outside opinion. The last thing I want is to log on and find that I've been blocked or banned. I'm unsure of which noticeboard this would fall under, but you seem to be more knowledgable in that area. Thanks. --Friginator 22:45, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I DON'T want to argue about it. At this point I just wanted to know if it was going to get me in trouble. I don't really think it's a big deal, but I'm not an admin. I don't like confrontation, I like knowing if I'm doing something wrong. I wasn't trying to confront you, I was just asking for help regarding an official descision. I'm taking the wall down if it's going to cause this much trouble. Sorry if I offended you. --Friginator 00:10, 25 September 2008 (UTC)