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We all look forward to your continued support of WP:RUSSIA and any comments you may have on the proposal. --] <sup>] ]</sup> 04:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC) We all look forward to your continued support of WP:RUSSIA and any comments you may have on the proposal. --] <sup>] ]</sup> 04:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::Hey merge portal isn't a good idea to the main project page. That will only make a mess okay. So don't do that. But about your message i don't know i im gonna be very active, but i can probably get a FL for the project. Question how can you oppose NATO? --] (]) 07:37, 2 October 2008 (UTC) ::Hey merge portal isn't a good idea to the main project page. That will only make a mess okay. So don't do that. But about your message i don't know i im gonna be very active, but i can probably get a FL for the project. Question how can you oppose NATO? --] (]) 07:37, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Right. You just notified a lot of people. If you want to attract a lot of people to project "Russia", you should remove all userboxes that could cause concerns and to be very nice to ''everyone''. You could even try to attract ''me'' to project "Russia". I might be involved if you wish. If not, no problem. I am sorry that I was a reason of your problems. I hope you can make a lot of positive contributions, with all your energy. Very best wishes,] (]) 22:56, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

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Nord Stream

You're right, the way I had written that was not very NPOV. Thanks for fixing that. Cheers, JACOPLANE • 2008-06-14 17:30

Only waring

This is the only revert on this material that you get, and further revisions will be considered edit warring and you will be subject to a block. Tiptoety 03:00, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

This is not edit warring, it is removing of content which has already been discussed and for which broad consensus already exists in that it should not be in the article. --Russavia 04:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Email

Please check your email.--Miyokan (talk) 05:38, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the email, but I accidentally deleted it before I could reply. They obviously have written quite a lot, most of it vitriolic in nature, but until such time as they are published by a reliable source, I don't think we can use their writings as a source on Russophobia. I am sure that if they were to send the writings to organisations with great editorial standards and oversight such as Novaya Gazeta or RFE/RL, they would like get published in a heartbeat; which would furthermore fit in with the pro-American, anti-Russian line that they all like to push; the tin foil hat crowd, of which they are members, would lap it up. I'm also not surprised at the pro-Georgian line they take; as they say, you can take the boy out of Georgia, but you can't take Georgia out of the boy; one doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to figure that out. Feel free to contact me if you need further clarification on reliable sources of information, but I can say that in this case, I would take anything they say on the issue with a grain of salt, and simply put it down to a case of being indoctrinated listening to Voice of America propaganda for too long. Unfortunately, opinions are like arseholes; everyone's got one, and as with all fringe groups and conspiracy theorists, there will always be those who will lap up anything they have to say. I think we should just stick to reliable, published sources. --Russavia 15:57, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Assessments script

I have a copy at User:Kevinalewis/projecttagger.js but I am making no guarantees about it at this stage. I intend to develop it further so bear with it. :: Kevinalewis : /(Desk) 16:24, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I've installed it and works a treat. Please keep me informed if you can of updates, etc. --Tovarishch Komissar 22:27, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Aeroflot and Aeroflot Nord

Is there a source saying that Aeroflot wetleased the plane from Aeroflot Nord and operated the aircraft?

AFAIK Aeroflot Nord has a totally separate fleet from Aeroflot; Aeroflot has Airbus A320s while Aeroflot Nord has 737s. WhisperToMe (talk) 16:25, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

your upload of Image:Aeroflot-Nord VP-BKO Boeing 737-500.jpg

Any reason why this couldn't go straight to Commons? --Mareklug 22:01, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

It seems OTRS is still pending, so I would wait and see if it is confirmed first. Check with the original uploader first I guess, and move it over to commons in the event OTRS is forthcoming. --Tovarishch Komissar 22:27, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Blocked

--Russavia 05:33, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Two weeks for your harassment and attempted outing of Biophys. Any admins reviewing this block, please see WP:AN#Serious ban request, deleted contribs for Russavia, and deletedrevs of my talk page. Moreschi (talk) 18:30, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Unblocked and apologies

After 3 times rechecking, I am unblocking your account. Please accept my apologies for all the inconvenient situation. I surely must have confused some of your personal IPs starting with 121.X.X.X with Miyokan socks' IPs which are similar. The second time I was getting "timed out". It was until the third time that I could get it. Yes, you edit from different places. You account is therefore being unblocked. Sorry for all the mess. fayssal / Wiki me up® 10:49, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I will accept the apology when Miyokan is also unbanned for sockpuppetry and receives an apology also, as the community has already dealt with his previous use of accounts, and is totally unrelated to the admin noticeboard case, it has merely been raised by the packdogs in that case (and I will stand by that, as you can see from the responses). I also expect the entire section above to be removed completely from records -- that I had to publicly declare my personal details in an attempt for admins to actually listen is despicable and the entire section needs to be removed. And I would also mind for other admins instead of high fiving themselves to see what such actions can take, making them look like complete idiots, which in my minds raises doubts as to why they are admins in the first place. --Russavia 11:01, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Additionally, I am reinstating my request for unblock by Moreschi, as is evident from his comments on the Admin noticeboard he is not a neutral admin in this case. --Russavia 11:05, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
No comment on the unblock request for now, just a note: if you should want that personal info above removed/deleted/oversighted, let me know, and let's do it quickly so as not to have too many intervening edits. Fut.Perf. 11:21, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi FPS, I would like the edit with my personal details removed completely, even from history. I only placed it there in order to actually get an admin to listen and realise that a big SNAFU had occurred. (after 4 or 5 didn't). Cheers --Russavia 11:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Okay, done, by selective deletion. If you want complete removal (invisible even to admins) you'll have to contact Oversight. Fut.Perf. 11:38, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
It hasn't been done by looks of it. All that has simply happened is removal of content still visible in the edit history. Both myself and Miyokan should never have had to reveal our IPs and I should never have had to reveal my name, address, etc, etc in an attempt to have an admin who should know how to perform a simple check user to do it properly. I also see that no details have been removed Miyokans talk page, which was placed by himself in order to have this fuck up (sorry, there is no other word for it) corrected. Additionally, I see that Fayssal has not apologised to Miyokan either, so his apology has still not been accepted here, and I will be pushing for him to have his check-user privileges revoked. If an admin can not do a simple IP location check, why do they have checkuser available to them in the first place? How many other editors have been openly accused of this and been blocked by Fayssal, all the while they are innocent without the nouse to make it plainly clear that they have f'ed up. As I said, if this were the real world with Fayssal as judge, jury and executioner, I would have no head left, an editors would be standing around pissing on my grave. --Russavia 15:52, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Request for unblock

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

At no stage have I attempted to out Biophys, nor have I harrassed having posted on his talk page no more than a couple of times in all time I have been on WP; mainly AfD notifications. What I have done, is used evidence which is freely available to place a notice on Orientations of Proteins in Membranes database that the author of this article may have a possible conflict of interest in the article, due to being referenced in the sources and being connected with the project itself. I also made it quite clear in the edit summary that this does not reflect upon said editors edits in that article. I then proceeded to place a notice on the editors talk page advising him that I have placed a notice on this article in relation to a possible conflict of interest and provided a link to WP:COI so that he could see why exactly this was placed on his talk page and the article page. I have placed such notices on articles before, such as this and User talk:Airasia webmaster. The raising of a conflict of interest on an article an talk page can not constitute harrassment, as the COI guideline is available for a reason. I didn't attempt to out Biophys at any stage, simply stating "I know" does not constitute harrassment nor does it constitute "outting" of an editor. All that has been done is placement of a COI notice on an article and talk page. I don't recall ever placing anything on Biophys' talkpage in the past, aside from AfD notices, and as I have followed the COI guideline, it can't be constituted as harrassment or outting, and I will not harrass editors in future (as I have not done so in the past). As one can see from Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#Serious_ban_request and latest developments we have non-neutral admins contributing to the packdog mentality, and that is not on. I will be taken that issue up when the block is lifted/over regardless. The banning admin is the same admin who started that conversation and has engaged in uncivility by calling another editor the "very worst of the Russian nationalist crowd not currently banned" and a "nutter". This is clearly not a neutral admin who works on WP policy but rather has fed and been fed by the packdog mentality; to view another example of Moreschi feeding and being fed by the packdog mentality refer to Misplaced Pages:AN#Russavia_unblocked.2FNo_sockpuppetry (just below his own request), and I will also be pushing for sanctions again Moreschi in regards to his incivility in calling others nutters and the "worst", and would question his ability also in holding adminship when I have presented the evidence on my talk page, only a blind freddy couldn't see that a major screw up had occurred; I question the ability of Moreschi to be neutral and objective in reviewing evidence and making decisions based upon policy.

Decline reason:

Attacking other users such as Moreschi is no way to get yourself unblocked. Additionally, the evidence provided below is pretty convincing. Given the complexity of this case, I am not comfortable unblocking, your best bet would be to apply directly to the WP:ARBCOM to review your case. — Jayron32.talk.contribs 19:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)


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No offence to you Jayron, the evidence provided is so convincing that the total block has been lifted because of another's screw up. What is convincing is that there is a packdog mentality on WP, and it goes to admins as well, in both encouragement and participation. There is no point me taking this to WP:ARBCOM as that takes 4 weeks, and I am somewhat uncomfortable in even taking it there, due to Fayssal being part of ARBCOM and the fact that I have stated above that I am going to push for his check-user rights to be revoked completely; there isn't a chance in hell that opinions there are not going to be swayed by what I have stated. So what I am going to do is lap up the 2 week ban, and put both Fayssal and Moreschi on notice that once I return I will be addressing both Fayssal's inability to use check user (again, a GeoIP check is a basic function that even a novice net user can work out) and Moreschi's incivility in attacking other editors. Note, I haven't attacked Moreschi at all, I haven't called him the "worst of all the admins who haven't yet had their privileges revoked", nor have I called him a nutter - although I did take him up on this at the discussion, which he has not yet answered. I have questioned his ability to make unbiased judgements based on policy and his uncivility towards other editors, and I will stand by that, regardless of what may or may not happen. --Russavia 19:30, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

FYI Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 00:05, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll expand on what Tiptoety says. The first unblock request was declined by himself on the grounds that Miyokan was a confirmed sockpuppet of myself...and we all know where that lead. The other unblock requests were due to what we now know was a major f' up, and one which is yet to be addressed to my satisfaction. What you are seeing on the admin noticeboard is nothing more than an attempt to get rid of an adversary, and this is evident by the continual support of the editor who is responsible for that foul mouthed tirade which I posted earlier...look at Biophys' own comments from 03:50, 17 September 2008. The other thing that hasn't been addressed is why was this supposed outting done by an editor? What was the reason behind it? I know what was behind it, but does anyone else? Does anyone care? I'll tell you, it was an attempt to make people understand why certain editors hold such fringe views and they are prominently making their way into articles...such as the belief that Putin is a paedophile...a belief that was re-affirmed after User:Irpen commented to Biophys that "outlandish remarks...in public fora are completely outrageous". Taken into account what I perceive as WP:OWN (on articles such as Talk:Web_brigades), taken into account other editors with their unhelpful interjections such as on Talk:Georgia_for_Georgians (an article which you may be interested in helping to develop...contact me for sources if you like, ranging from Russian, Georgian, Western, HRW, UNHCR, and other international organisations). On that article, look here User_talk:Moreschi#Nationalist_soapbox, why are they running to Moreschi for this? Of course I wouldn't put it past certain editors to try to AfD it in my absence, so please keep an eye on that. What you are seeing on that noticeboard is nothing more than a rabid pack of dogs trying to take down an adversary - and I stand by that rapid pack of dogs comments, you need only see from when I was a confirmed sockpuppeteer. And I am still questioning why Moreschi, who is an involved admin (as one can clearly see) is handing out 2 week blocks to editors for nothing more than a friendly notice of a COI. Unfortunately, you won't be able to view that as it has been removed from all records; it was not accusatory in nature, it was a mere alerting an editor to the fact that because they are involved that they may have a possible COI; done as the article itself stated the project is the only one of its kind, yet I couldn't find a cited source that states that. Of course WP:AGF is non-existent with this pack obviously, and WP:CIVIL is out of the question also; and that has been raised as to why Moreschi is able to get away with calling an editor the "very worst of the Russian nationalist crowd not currently banned" and an editor who is prone to "egregious nuttery"; he is not an innocent bystander, he is deeply involved in this, and it is inappropriate for an involved admin to be handing out blocks. --Russavia 09:15, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
On a side note, you may want to work on these User:Russavia/SouthOssetia; they are the towns that were in the SOAO, so most should correspond to the modern borders of the independent South Ossetia; feel free to modify that in my userspace if you so wish, it's an important part of the Ossetia Project that needs to be developed. --Russavia 09:23, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Additionally, make it be known to Tiptoety, that I am not taking this in my stride, as placing a COI notice does not constitute harrassment. Ask this question. In the said article, is the main author of that article referenced in the sources? Is the main author of that article related to the subject of the article? The answer is yes, therefore, there is a possible conflict of interest. Of course, all of this has now deleted, and they can make up all sorts of conjecture as to motives and the like, but we have already seen one result of their conjecture, haven't we? Tiptoety's insistence that I was blocked for apparently doing the same as Miyokan is not at all credible, as stating "I know" to another user (not Miyokan) in an AfD discussion does not constitute outting -- for if it did, why has said editor not also received a two-week block? Ask that question, coz I sure as hell will be. --Russavia 13:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Copy of email sent to ARBCOM in relation to sockpuppet debacle

Hi,

First off, my username on WP is Russavia and is in relation to user FayssalF

It is with regret that I am bringing this case to ARBCOM. I want it to be known that I hold no grudge against FayssalF but feel that for the best interests of the overall project that I have to bring this request here. As this involves one of your own, I know there is going to be a desire to write off anything I may have to say, and possibly use the filing of this report against myself in another report I will be filing and directly related to this. I do hope that members of ARBCOM can view this without bias.

I was blocked by User:Moreschi due to alleged harrassment of another editor. What brought this accusation of harrassment up was due to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive169#Serious_ban_request

After a two week block which I received (and will be addressing separately), Fayssal proceeded to do a check-user on myself and User:Miyokan which he announced here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive169#Russavia.2C_confirmed_sock_of_Miyokan.3F

An admin, User:Tiptoety then proceeded to indef block both myself and Miyokan on case of being sockpuppets (Miyokan as being one of my socks).

I attempted to have this sockpuppet block removed on account of providing my IP address in an open fora, so that editors/admins could see that I was in Perth (Western Australia), whereas Miyokan was in Nizhniy Novgorod (Russia). These attempts were denied due to the check-user that had been performed by Fayssal. A check-user which he himself confirmed the results of in that thread above. I proceeded to send an email to Miyokan (for only the 3rd time that I can remember we have ever had a direct discussion) in order to talk to him about this. In the meantime, Fayssal had posted a message to my talk page which in effect stated that Miyokan being in Nizhniy Novgorod is not the case, and that I should know this as both Russavia and Miyokan are in Australia.

When discussing with Miyokan not long after I sent the email, I found out that he was in fact located not in Nizhniy Novgorod, but in Adelaide (South Australia). After that, I then became aware of the message Fayssal left on my TP; and I responded to the effect that the results of the check-user should be revealed, as I know I am in Perth, and I know that Miyokan is in Adelaide (but did not mention Miyokan's location due to privacy).

Luckily, and thankfully, I was able to convince Miyokan to place his IP on his talk page, with a note to say it is for my use. I then posted both IPs on my talk page, and provided the relevant links to check them (www.network-tools.com and www.geohacks.com) and that would reveal that we are not in the same location, and hence not the same user.

Fayssal said that he tried but was getting timeout messages and would look again. Whilst all of this is happening, discussions is still going on at the Admin noticeboard, and nothing short of Wikimurder was going on - a fact I pointed out to Fayssal at the time.

Eventually Fayssal came back and confirmed that what was being said all along my myself was in fact the truth. He placed a notice on my talk page with an apology. This and my response can be found at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Russavia#Unblocked_and_apologies

I responded to this stating that the apology would be wholeheartedly accepted once a similar apology was made to Miyokan, as the community has already dealt with his previous use of two accounts - which stopped immediately when he was alerted to it being a no-no. And I stand by the comments there. And yes, I am still willing to accept the apology so long as Miyokan also receives the same apology, as both of our accounts were unneedlessly dragged thru the mud, and if the accusation can be made jointly, then so should the apology.

That's the background. Now here's the problem.

What has occurred here is a total breakdown in admins doing check-users or the check-user system itself is horribly flawed and needs to fixed. This does not take into account our totally different style, completely different editing subjects, with little or no interaction, etc - this episode should be directly mentioned at WP:DUCK as a prime example as to why WP:DUCK is inherrently flawed.

Consider this one question. If I was not able to convince Miyokan to reveal his IP, where would we be at now? That is the question that needs to be considered in conjunction with the fact that a Geo-IP check is a simple operation, an internet novice is able to do it. How is it that Fayssal was not able to immediately determine upon doing a check-user that both Miyokan and myself are located in opposite sides of the country. Either that system has failed Fayssal or Fayssal has failed the system; its one of the two. I do believe that whatever the breakdown, that Fayssal was somewhat rash in putting 2 and 2 together, except he reached 5 instead of the expected result, and that this sole judge, jury and executioner system is fraught with danger.

I am not alone in these concerns, as User:Irpen has raised this issue at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive169#What_the_hell_happened_here.3F

And my Irpen's concerns mirror my own. Who? What? How?

I would like this to be investigated and for the community to be advised as to what has caused this breakdown.

If it was the "fault" of the check-user system that you use, then obviously that needs to be looked at and rectified asap.

If it was the "fault" of Fayssal, then I would expect some type of sanction against himself. As I mentioned on my talk page, I believe a revocation of check-user rights would be in order. However, whilst I believe Fayssal made some rash decisions and comments, that he is sincerely sorry that this occurred, so I would ask that any such revocation be kept to a minimum; a few days at most; obviously with some further reinforcement on how to use the systems that you use.

I'm not a prick as can be plainly seen, and I hold no ill-will against Fayssal, and I hope nor he against me.

I would ask ARBCOM to consider this email and revert back to me if anything else is required from me and/or to advise me of an outcome.

The above email was sent to Arbcom on 17 September. Now some 3 days later, I have yet to hear a word from Arbcom, and an email sent asking for a simple recognition of receipt of the email, 24 hours after the initial email was sent, also lays unanswered. --Russavia 08:19, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Turkish Airlines destinations list being vandalised with flags

Someone is repeatedly adding flags there please issue them a warning, I have reverted most recent edit there.116.71.49.197 (talk) 17:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Air Blue and Pakistan International Airlines destinations being vandalised

Someone is changing format of their lists to table style with airport codes, aircraft types etc. being added all of which are uneceassary, please stop this person from doing so, I told him it was vandalism but he went and did it again.203.81.213.118 (talk) 15:56, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

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Samuel Hyde House and Russian Consulate

Hi! http://www.netconsul.org/consularoffices/ says that the Russian Consulate is at the 2323 Westin Building at 2001 6th Avenue, not the Samuel Hyde House.

Anyway, what is at the Samuel Hyde House, then? Is it the residence of the consul general? WhisperToMe (talk) 15:42, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Alaska Seaplane Service

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Terminated destinations list

I just changed the style of Malaysia Airlines terminated destinations list and made it according to wikipedia format, but an editor connected with that article sent me a notice saying it was unconstructive edit and is being reverted, I thought this style format was created after reaching conclusion by all editors to give airline articles a uniform look, then why has that editor not adhereing to the format.203.81.205.132 (talk) 17:28, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Airline liveries and logos

I have just started on this article, to catalogue the designs of airlines. Not sure where it will end up. Please take a look and give me your suggestions. Kransky (talk) 02:03, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Putin move protection

Done. Welcome back, by the way :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:30, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

More like mid-afternoon on my end (not to mention that my employer is blocking youtube), but I'll take a look when I get back home. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:50, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Couldn't resist :)—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 00:22, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Invitation

Because of my interest in Krasnensky District, eh? Thanks for a good chuckle. Seriously, though, what was the point of the invitation?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 00:09, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

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WP:RUSSIA roll call and your input required

Privet. You are receiving this message as you were listed on the membership list of WP:RUSSIA at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Russia/Members. Recent times has seen minimal activity within WikiProject Russia, and there is an attempt to re-invigorate the project and have it become more organised into a fully-fledge functioning project, with the aim of increasing the quality of Russia-related articles across English wikipedia.

As we don't know which listed members are active within the project and Russia-related article, all listed members are receiving this message, and are requested to re-affirm their active status on Russia-related article by re-adding their username to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Russia/Members by adding:

# {{User|YOURUSERNAME}}

to the membership list. You may also like to place {{User Russian Project}} on your userpage, as this will also place you in Category:WikiProject Russia members.

There is also an active proposal on the creation of a single WP:RUSSIA project. The proposal can be viewed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Russia#Proposal_for_overhaul_and_creation_of_a_single_WP:RUSSIA_project, and your comments and suggestions are welcomed and encouraged at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Russia/Proposal.

We all look forward to your continued support of WP:RUSSIA and any comments you may have on the proposal. --Russavia 04:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey merge portal isn't a good idea to the main project page. That will only make a mess okay. So don't do that. But about your message i don't know i im gonna be very active, but i can probably get a FL for the project. Question how can you oppose NATO? --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 07:37, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Right. You just notified a lot of people. If you want to attract a lot of people to project "Russia", you should remove all userboxes that could cause concerns and to be very nice to everyone. You could even try to attract me to project "Russia". I might be involved if you wish. If not, no problem. I am sorry that I was a reason of your problems. I hope you can make a lot of positive contributions, with all your energy. Very best wishes,Biophys (talk) 22:56, 2 October 2008 (UTC)