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Cast net

On 25 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article cast net, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

thx ... Victuallers (talk) 21:03, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Bill Ricker

On 28 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bill Ricker, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:50, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Fishing Banks

Hi Geronimo 20, I'm not really an expert in that area, I just collected the information that I found at that time and tried to make sense of it. Looking at it again, there seem to be contradictory definitions of banks in circulation, and I don't know which is the right one. While the definition in the article refers to shallow areas of continental shelves, some banks in the list don't fit this definition, but are former atolls (Saya de Malha) or future atolls (Seychelles Bank) instead. I'm not sure whether the Grand Banks does fit the first definition or not. Fishing banks may well be a different kind of definition, taking an economic rather than geologic view.--Ratzer (talk) 12:12, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Commercial mollusks template

Oh, OK, thanks for the info, I did not realize this was an accepted format for Fisheries. I'm glad you like the new image. Invertzoo (talk) 13:31, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Me again, thanks again, I should perhaps explain that when I said that the "heading visually merges with the text" I meant that the heading "commercial mollusks" does not "read" well visually: the word "mollusks" does not stand out from the list of mollusks, but seems to be part of it. I took a look at the template for commercial finned fish, and I see that the list of names of fish is arranged flush left. Maybe that would help this list too? Invertzoo (talk) 14:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind, I went ahead and changed the default align to left as it is in the other Fisheries navigational templates. Invertzoo (talk) 15:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Geronimo, Thanks very much for your nice note; you are very kind and encouraging. I do think your templates are a good idea, at least for the time being. I reckon items that help cross-reference stuff and tie stuff together in Misplaced Pages are pretty much always helpful. As you can see from my used page, I am mostly a mollusks-from-the-scientific-perspective person, a naturalist basically, and also as it happens a vegetarian, but I found the fisheries links interesting and clearly the fisheries angle is an important one. I am glad you liked what I did to shellfish. I very much enjoy trying to fix up intros when I sort of understand the topic and it seems to me that the prose needs some work. Very nice to meet you. Please do feel free to call on me if ever you have a question about mollusks. best, Invertzoo (talk) 21:30, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Land-based game fishing

You have to be a member to get inside the site only few threads open to non members. I live about 1200 kms from Jervis Bay. Brisbane Qld, Look it up. The main reason these things happened is that I didn't realise how wikipedia worked and I assumed it was random people removing things. I do have some understanding now. However if you feel its not of value then remove it. I dont want to be wasting your or my time. There is only one site on the web dedicated to land based game fishing and that is the site I linked to. More than 95% of Marlin caught from land are caught on the east coast of Australia and most of them are from 1 spot "The Tubes" at Jervis Bay and it is world famous amongst hardcore anglers for this reason. . By the way that is the owner of the site not me. You can count the number of people who have managed to catch one of these things from the rocks on your 2 hands. In New Zealand they have hooked them but never landed them as they get 300kilo+ monsters there. It is a relatively new site and still trying to get all its resources in place. The links to sponsors are unpaid for, they are done as favours for people. I started the wiki page with the hope that some of the people who participate in the sport will get motivated to do a better job on the page than myself. Anyway remove what you think needs removing. As for land based shark fishing it is a subset of land based game fishing and is alot easier to achieve a shark catch than a marlin catch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportfishextreme (talk • contribs) 01:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC) OK I still dont have a full understanding of how wiki works and I dont know how to sign off but I am learning —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportfishextreme (talk • contribs) 01:52, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

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Macrocystis pyrifera

Dear Geronimo20: Sorry if it's a copy-vio. Of course, it's not my intention to bring Misplaced Pages into disrepute. Actually, this article was created prior to the warnings issued, after which I've been more careful not to do any copy-vio, and some previous copy-vio might not have been deleted. As such, if you find any copy-vio that was previously and accidentally done, please delete it out-right, and be assured that I'd be more careful not to do any new copy-vio. Regards--Bugnot (talk) 13:10, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Fish Information and Services

Hello, If you havn't seen, I have added alexa to my referances along with another site which provides information. Obviously, the article needs work but I have recieved one request of deletion due to the "notability" of the article. I thought this was established with the information from alexa? I marked this as vandalism since I and the wikigroup in which the article is listed believe that the article is credible enough to keep. Wondering if you could help.

Spindoctor69 (talk) 22:23, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Third opinion re user Ctjf83 and WP BITE

As per Misplaced Pages:Please do not bite the newcomers, the discussion on Ctjf83's talk page (version link) which Ctjf83 removed (diff), the discussion on this page (version link), and the actual pertinence of user Rhyme & Reason's posts, I commented out (diff) Ctjf83's highly inappropriate templated messages on Rhyme & Reason's talk page. — Athaenara ✉ 01:27, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Coral reef image removal

Dear Geronimo, I did mean to remove those images, sorry that I didn't make that clear in my lack of edit summary. I figured that they were better suited to the fringing reef article. If you disagree, please feel free to put them back. Cheers, Malkinann (talk) 05:32, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. :) Photos are nice, but they just don't make up for a really good diagram, do they?  ;) -Malkinann (talk) 05:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Shells template

Hi Geronimo, me again, I just now made the default setting in the "shells" template flush left. But wanted to ask you, I don't really understand: is this "shells" template a fisheries template? Is it for amateur shell collectors, or what exactly? Are there others like it in the same series? Thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 18:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi again Geronimo, I should make it clear that it's not that I disagree with having the template, I just wasn't sure what it was supposed to be exactly. If I understand you correctly, it's for amateurs, so that they can find the other general introductory shell articles? But only sea shells, not freshwater shells or whatever? By the way, not only marine mollusks wash up as shells, it's quite common to call sea urchin tests and moulted crab shells "shells" or "seashells" as well... and also I think most people would call brachiopod shells just plain "shells" if they found them. Would you want to have those on the template too? What d'you think? Invertzoo (talk) 21:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, me again, I just wrote to Martin Smith about the merger he did, to explain that mollusc shells and sea shells are not necessarily the same thing. I thought this might be helpful for you to read maybe, so here is what I said:

"Hi Martin Smith, Nice to meet you. I am a sort of mollusk expert, kind of anyway. I saw (via a mention by Geronimo) that you merged seashells with mollusc shell and exoskeleton. Might be not a bad idea, because there was a lot of what seemed like unnecessary duplication. The only thing is, that "sea shells" as the phrase is commonly used, as well as meaning the shells of marine mollusks, also includes a variety of other shells that can be found on beaches, including sea urchin tests and crab shells, as well as (not very commonly) brachiopod shells. And in contrast, the phrase "mollusk shell" means not only the shells of marine mollusks, but also the shells of land and freshwater mollusks. I am not sure what would be the best way to clarify this, but I thought it might be worth mentioning this to you. Best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 21:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)" Just wanted to keep you in the loop about this. Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 21:42, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Seashells

Hi Geronimo, Just wanted to add that when you said we could do a small lead article explaining what "shells" are in the context of your template, well it seems to me that is what we could have used the article "seashell" for, if it had not been merged. I am trying to decide if we need to reinstate Seashell or create a Shell article or what... Invertzoo (talk) 14:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

I got a admin to reinstate the article Seashell. I think you will see that it works OK. I also added your template to it in the appropriate section. Invertzoo (talk) 19:28, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Pseudofeces

Hi Geronimo. What you say in the article seems good to me, as far as I know. I did tweak it a little bit. And yes as far as I know, pseudofeces are found only in bivalves. I will look the subject up tomorrow and see if I came up with more info maybe. Invertzoo (talk) 23:43, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm working on it a bit. Invertzoo (talk) 18:05, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the heads up! Invertzoo (talk) 23:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi again, I am trying to work out whether we should use the word pseudofeces as if it were a singular noun or a plural noun... Any input? Even though feces is plural in Latin, I think it is usually treated as if it were singular in English. Invertzoo (talk) 00:32, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah yes, I see. Well I personally think you are right that the word can be used as a singular noun or a plural noun. By the way, congratulations on the fact that this did make the cut for a "Did you know" item, and thanks for including me in the process, I enjoyed it! Invertzoo (talk) 22:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi again, I looked to see how many people took a look at Pseudofeces since the DYK, and it went from like 2 or 3 a day to 6.4K! ha ha! Invertzoo (talk) 19:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, maybe the name "pseudofeces" only attracts intellectuals, ha ha. Although I guess potty humor has a truly universal appeal. Invertzoo (talk) 20:13, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Paul Gustafson

Hi,
As you've recently offered your opinion as part of the RFC on the Paul Gustafson article, could you let me know your feedback on the work I've done to correct the tone and achieve some consensus? My work in progress is linked from the talk page and I would appreciate all comments.
Thanks,
OBM | 14:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Seashell template

Hi again Geronimo, I don't know much about templates. I think I may now have put too much content in, and maybe it is not clear how it is organized? Invertzoo (talk) 22:00, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I for one would like to see how you would organize it, as long as you don't mind the fact that you may work on it and yet it may still end up getting deleted. Yes I did read Catherine's objections on the talk page there, but I don't know what to say about her objections because I don't have a lot of familiarity with what is considered a good placement for a template and all that kind of related stuff. I do see what she means about the fact that a category called "Types of seashells" might maybe work just as well, take up less room, and not be as much "in your face". I guess it would not be quite as "handy" or as pretty... Invertzoo (talk) 20:51, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh I see, yes, that all makes sense. I certainly agree with you that many users won't know that there are categories on WP and how to use them. I think we should persevere with this seashell template, I think it has real potential. I do agree with you about the visibility and utility aspects, that's what I meant by "handy" and "pretty". Unfortunately I can't help you much with the process, as I don't know how to yet, but I will be happy to see what you can do, and you are welcome to pick my brains in any way that would be helpful. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 21:26, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Anytime you have the patience to help sort out the template, that would be great. Please don't hesitate to ask me anything. Invertzoo (talk) 21:35, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I am glad you liked the clean-up I did on Clam. And thanks so much Geronimo for your work on the template! It looks really good. I will explore it in depth after I have breakfast. As for the horseshoe crabs, we can simply call all of the crustacean shells "Arthropod shells" instead, and then horseshoe crab can go at the end of that list. The horseshoe crab may not be a crustacean, but it sure is an arthropod. Do you think you could tinker with the template so it is like that? Thanks again, Invertzoo (talk) 13:06, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually as you can see I did it myself. I think it came out OK. Invertzoo (talk) 22:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Geronimo for explaining about the template and how it works. Actually I kind of like the way seashell currently stands, as far as the images go. I never much cared for that image of a bunch of expensive seashells. I hope maybe next year in the tropics to do my own photo of a group of real seashells (of various phyla) collected on one beach, out of the beachdrift, not these store-bought commercial ones. I don't think there is an image on the Commons like that right now, not as far as I know. Invertzoo (talk) 23:11, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Clam

Hi again Geromino, I did what I could to clean up the intro to Clam yesterday evening and this morning. Invertzoo (talk) 13:15, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Mfishnitinp

Well, the article was deleted, which is why you can't see it. — Coren  00:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Pseudofeces

On 30 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Pseudofeces, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 08:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Fish information

No problem. Michellecrisp (talk) 01:54, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Charles Frederick Holder

Thanks for your help with the article, especially the refs. It should be able to pass the DYK. --Ctatkinson (talk) 11:47, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Love darts in land snails

Hi Geronimo, If you were interested in trying to put together another short article that might be good for DYK, the subject of love darts or darts in land snails and slugs is certainly a lively and interesting one. Just now I put the subject into the list on the disambiguation page for Dart. I could start the article or help you with it if you were interested. Or maybe we should wait until it's closer to Valentines Day! Invertzoo (talk) 00:37, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes: mollusks are an extremely large and diverse phylum that has (and in the fossil record has had) all kinds of amazing things going on! If I rack my brains a bit I can probably come up with several other wild topics. Your suggestion sounds fine. We could either do it all now, or we could prepare the article and then "release" it the week before Valentine's Day, that way perhaps more bloggers and journalists would pick up on it, generating more publicity for Misplaced Pages... but to be honest, either way is just fine with me. Invertzoo (talk) 12:58, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Geronimo. Is there any chance we can get it together for the DYK thing even though it has been started today?? Invertzoo (talk) 22:08, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Well if you can chip in, please, I would encourage you to go right ahead. Snek provided the images and got it up off the ground. He cannot write in English very well however, so I was helping out with the prose. You are so excellent at the research angle and the citations. Does it have to be only 2 people working on it and submitting it? I really don't mind if you and Snek want to do it together or whatever... Can the process for DYK be salvaged now or not? Invertzoo (talk) 22:17, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Reverts

Re your message: Usually, I skip warnings when somebody else has already warned the person (probably due to revert conflict) or if they had just received a warning an instant before they repeated the edit (to give them a chance to read the warning). Occasionally I will skip the warnings for simple stuff like adding "HELLO!" or something like that. Was there some revert in particular that caught your attention? -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:24, 3 October 2008 (UTC)