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What was the reason for deleting/reverting my perfectly sourced text? Please explain.Biophys (talk) 16:59, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

It's yourself who has some explaining to do. You have hidden information in the references, you have totally misconstrued proper aviation terminologies (and hence their meaning) (my name is Russavia for a reason Biophys), and your introduced sources on not needing de-icing fluids is not absolutely correct, as the requirements for such things is not only defined by the "apparent weather". You have provided 2 vehemently anti-Putin sources (in an attempt to WP:SOAPBOX against Putin....surprise, surprise), yet I have provided Interstate Aviation Committee, MAA, Aviation-Safety.net, and can provide a heap more sources from aviation professionals, not from journalists who couldn't tell a wing from flaps, flaps from ailerons, etc. But of course, for this information to be displayed as prominently as your fringe paranoid theories, is impossible, because you seem to insist on hiding it. I am here to help build an encyclopaedia in a NPOV way, you however, as evident by your edits to this article are here to WP:SOAPBOX and present only fringe, tin foil hat theories in your drive to demonise whoever and whatever. Enough is enough. I will be seeking further comment on this from uninvolved editors....of course, I expect you to call them web brigade members as you do me. Perhaps you need to step back a bit and look at your edits from others points of view. --Russavia 17:43, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Also, tell me, what happens if an aircraft is travelling at 165km/h, has flaps at 11° instead of 20° (20° being necessary to create the necessary amount of lift on the Yak-40 at the correct speed) and the pilots take off too early because they have not taken into account the incorrect flaps settings? I'll tell you what is the most likely result...the aircraft will stall, and due to not having enough speed, lift and altitude, it will crash into the ground. It's all covered in the reports. But you are inconveniently removing that information. We are to present information and let readers decide for themselves. You however, are making that decision for them. That's called soapboxing. --Russavia 17:50, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I have reverted the changes made to the article in order to include ALL theories. This is the only way to balance out POV. --Russavia 12:53, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Please look at the text. All your materials have been included in the text: 11° instead of 20°, and so on. In addition, they have been also included in footnotes.Biophys (talk) 16:59, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

That is not how things are done Biophys, and you know it. What is in the article is YOUR POV, with everyone else thrown in the footnotes; let's face it, a lot of people will only read the text in the article proper and not even look at footnotes; so what people don't see is that he was an unplanned addition to the flight; which somewhat farts on the conspiracy theory that you have presented. What you are doing is a great disservice to this article, especially as only fringe conspiracy theories are allowed to shine thru. I'm not getting into an edit war with you on this, I will ask other members of the web brigade editors for their opinion. --Russavia 17:19, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

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