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Also note: It is my policy not to delete or remove dialog from this page. Everything will be saved and archived. Please don't later remove from here what you've written (although, if you do, I will respect your wishes and not restore removed comments.

If I do not reply to you immediately, it is not because I am ignoring you; I might be in the middle of a project on or offline :)

Lastly, a note to banned users who stop by: Stop editing immediately, serve your sentence, and then come back and play nice. I will gladly welcome you back and collaborate with you - once you've served your time properly, and as long as you act accordingly.

Reconsideration of our conversation from 11 April 2008 on my talk page.

Hello, Kingturtle. I was just organizing my talkpage archives, and I saw an old conversation that you and I had on 11 April 2008. I wanted to apologize for the negative and sour tone of my posts there, and the general bad attitude I displayed. On reviewing some of the discussions before it, I understand why I was in a bad wikimood, but I do not feel this excuses my actions. I just felt compelled to stop by and apologize. Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 23:55, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Help with Malibu Rehab Model article

I spent quite a bit of time trying to clean up this article, which is about an informal term which may not even be deserving of a wiki article. The article had been heavily POV and promotional, particularly of one small rehab center (Stone Eagle Retreat). When one of the earlier contributors reverted all of my edits, you reverted them back. However this person reverted your revert. I suspect that this editor, Dacacci might be a sockpuppet for Reagan0005 who created the article as well as the Stone Eagle Retreat article. 72.211.223.181 may also be the same person. I further suspect this person could have a conflict of interest with some of the articles edited.

I have not been able to do a simple revert to restore the "Malibu Rehab Model" article back to just giving the basic sourced information absent all the unsourced POV and promotion, nor do I know how to go about checking the sockpuppet issue. See also a new, overlapping article created by this editor, Holistic recovery. Thanks for any assistance with these issues. Toounstable (talk) 22:58, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Still waiting to hear a response from you. Toounstable (talk) 01:43, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Dear Kingturtle, thanks! I'm new, I want to learn. Please help. AdjustShift (talk) 03:27, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/MAL01159

Hello. Just to let you know that this RfC has been closed. You are welcome to read the conclusion established at the page. I am notifying you since you certified the basis for the dispute. Wizardman 15:57, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Query on Neutrality(?) policy

As I can recall wikipedias policy is to refer to countries under their legal name as it is accepted by the UN. however if one looks at the todays 7/9/08 first page/on this day section on will propably see "independence day of Republick of Macedonia"... however there is no such state as this. THE OFFICIAL NAME IS: Former Yugoslavic Republic Of Macedonia F.Y.R.O.M. May I remind you also that the are currently negotiations taking place for the removal of continuation of the "Macedonia" bit in the name. Wikipedias neutrality policy dictates that the temporary official name should be used.... If so possible I propose the creation of a bot to undertake the job of fixing this isue. As unimportand as it might seam to you: 1)it is a breach of the wikipedias neutrality policy 2) it is malinforming and incorrect 3) it means a great deal for the current countries in the dispute 4) it is disrespectfull towards the citizens of those countries and the UN thank you very much for your attention 79.166.26.188 (talk) 03:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Sandbox actually is an article

Hi Kingturtle. This move created an odd situation. Rather than being a sandbox, Kennett High School (New Hampshire)/sandbox is an article named "Kennett High School (New Hampshire)/sandbox". Would it be approproate to move it to a user page? Suntag (talk) 23:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Can you assist

Kingturtle, you graciously helped cleanup the HardRadio article a while back. It seems a rogue moderator/editor has taken it upon himself to edit several related articles. If you might assist the HardRadio article once again it will be greatly appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HMradio (talk • contribs) 06:38, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

RfD nomination of No original research

I have nominated No original research (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. MBisanz 20:10, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

KIX

I noticed you created the page KIX, so that Kix redirects to it. Thanks! Could you also do the same thing for Kix, making it KIX? 76.227.110.225 (talk) 05:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Ahmad Zahir

That page is rife with complete lies. Absolutely disgusting. Nice job keeping things straight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KoonWoz (talk • contribs) 14:31, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:PhilsBunning.PNG

Hello, I am puzzled as to why this image of Jim Bunning's retired Phillies number is not displaying - a check of the history doesn't show any recent blanking or revision. I know his article is rather contentious because of politics, but if this image has been vandalized it's not apparent to me. Perhaps you can figure it out?  JGHowes 00:54, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I've have that problem with an image from time to time and have never figured out why. Purging doesn't work but when this happens it almost always displays if I call it up on a different computer. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I've tried it on 2 different computers but no joy, how about you -- are you guys seeing it OK? It's still blank for me.  JGHowes 15:24, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I can't see it either. Try uploading again with a different name. — Rlevse • Talk • 15:31, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I tried on two different puters too, so my guess is the image is messed up since this happens with more than one person. — Rlevse • Talk • 15:35, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Msg left for the uploader (User:Killervogel5) here.  JGHowes 17:45, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

You saw it here first

Kingturtle, This is just a friendly notice since you involved yourself in the discussion of my biography in Misplaced Pages.

Finding my biography in Misplaced Pages two years after it existed, was a great and joyous surprise for me. It is in fact my first foray into the Public Domain in 11 years, since my last attempt at elective office. Everything I have contributed to this site, all the discussions with all the Administrators, is self published material in a public forum.

The mainline media, CNN in particular, is portraying the current economic crisis in Apocalyptic terms and totally unexpected. The record bares witness that on July 3 I made this statement in Ground Zero talk:

The global system is just entering the time when this line from Rev.18 will be seen and believed: And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buys their merchandise any more.

This is the financial crisis.

Peace

DoDaCanaDa (talk) 20:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

IP

I saw this revert and subsequently these IP edits and this one. I wonder? SGGH 11:42, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Tajik

This may be of interest to you for the future Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Tajik#Tajik-13 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Irozee (talk • contribs) 23:20, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Nisarkand. Just for the record, Kingturtle, Tajik has emailed me to say they're not his socks, FWIW - Alison 00:06, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

October Baseball WikiProject Newsletter

The Baseball WikiProject Newsletter Issue III – October 2008

"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving a baby's life... she'll save the baby without even considering how many men are on base!" — Stephen King (The Dark Tower) News and announcements The Baseball Project promoted 13 lists to Featured status in August and 8 more in September. Amazing job! A combined eleven articles were promoted to Good Article status in August and September. Featured content In September, WikiProject Baseball has had the following articles promoted to: Featured Article status: Nashville Sounds Featured List status: List of New York Mets Opening Day starting pitchers, List of Colorado Rockies Opening Day starting pitchers, List of Florida Marlins Opening Day starting pitchers, Nashville Sounds seasons, List of Tampa Bay Rays Opening Day starting pitchers, List of Seattle Mariners Opening Day starting pitchers, List of Boston Red Sox Opening Day starting pitchers, List of Arizona Diamondbacks Opening Day starting pitchers, New York Yankees seasons Good Articles of August and September: All the Way (Eddie Vedder song), Cy Young, Dan Brouthers, Harmon Killebrew, Rickey Henderson, Billy Pierce, Kinston Indians, Three Rivers Stadium, Bill Lange, Calgary Cannons, Hugh Daily, Homer at the Bat This month's newsletter was designed and written by Wizardman, jj137, and Blackngold29. If you would like to contribute to future newsletters, please contact the Baseball WP outreach dept.

News from the diamond The 2008 opening round playoff matchups with be: Boston Red Sox vs. Los Angeles Angels Milwaukee Brewers vs. Philadelphia Phillies Los Angeles Dodgers vs. Chicago Cubs Chicago White Sox vs. Tampa Bay Rays Help to keep the articles of the postseason updated From the Editors We apologize for not sending out our August newsletter, we have tried to cover some events of the month in this issue. The playoffs have started! The Dodgers and Phillies have won their respective Division Series and will face off in the NL Championship Series. Both series in the American League have yet to be finished. Show your support for your favorite teams by keeping up with their season pages!

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re: edits to List of Major League Baseball RBI records

Heya King!

I noted that you recently reverted a section of this list.

That part of the list was included because there are numerous sources that do not recognize records set before 1901. There are historians that do not recognize those records. That listing was a compromise between the various sources as a way of heading off challenges that may be posed by many well-meaning editors using sources that do not include pre-1901 sources. Not to mention, many historians do list separate records.

I hope you would consider relisting your deletion. I think it is a great compromise that is both informative, true to current trends and research in the field. LonelyBeacon (talk) 23:21, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Most edits

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NisarKand

Hi Kingturtle. Is this guy a new sockpuppet of User:NisarKand?! Can you check that? Thanks. Tājik (talk) 23:23, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I do not have checkuser powers. Kingturtle (talk) 01:24, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

File a report at WP:RFCU or WP:SSP. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:41, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Stone femme

I couldn't find much on the concept of stone femme that wasn't a simple dictionary definition in Google Books/Scholar, so that was why I suggested the entry here be transwikied to Wiktionary. If you can add any good information on the concept that would make it be more encyclopedic as opposed to dictionary-like, I'm not opposed to removing {{Copy to Wiktionary}}. -Malkinann (talk) 05:41, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Abortive flower

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Speedy deletion of "Adam's profession"

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Metros rename

Kingturtle, I've responded to your question about my renaming at the request page. It's totally fine to rename it, Metros (talk) 17:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

 Done Kingturtle (talk) 18:21, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello, i am having problem, because I added a reported apparition that happened on my city and a guy on wiki keeps removing my post. Even after i gave some sites that make reference to this apparition, he keeps removing it. I am disapointed with this. Wiki is free and open. There is nothing against me adding this apparition. I added the same report on other wiki languages and some persons even helped me to o a translation of some words. But in the english version i am not feeling confortable, i feel like automatically disaproved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Marian_apparition

I used the table format as other in list.

Nossa Senhora Mãe e Rainha das Famílias (Our Lady, Mother & Queen of Families)

Apparitions of Our Lady, of Our Lord Jesus Christ, St. Michael the Archangel, St. Gabriel the Archangel, and three messages from God the Father, to Fabiana Oliveira.

From 1996 to 2004. Vitória da Conquista - Bahia - Brazil.

http://www.getway.com.br/nossasenhora/

Page protection

Hi Kingturtle, thanks for protecting The Audacity of Hope. Could you also give the same level of protection to Dreams from My Father? It's also a book by Barack Obama that is getting hit by the same vandals, and at the same time as the other book was. Thanks, ~ priyanath  01:59, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Am I a Spammer?

I noticed that my edits were reverted. I want to apologize, as I don't think I get quite how this all works. I thought that I could add an external link to a relevant page.

When I looked at your contribs, I noted my name, Dotlaunch with the word (spam) next to it.

I wasn't intending to spam, just add our site as a relevant link, since there isn't much information about the subject on wikipedia.

Where should I go to read about the exact ways to contribute?

Thanks!

Dotlaunch (talk) 03:52, 5 November 2008 (UTC) Dotlaunch

I posted a Spam notice on your talk page because the only edits you've made all involved adding the same domain links to articles. Misplaced Pages is not a collection of links. The focus of our efforts is on the development of article content, not on the proliferation of external links. Please review Misplaced Pages's guidelines for external links. If you have more questions, please ask. Kingturtle (talk) 14:32, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for processing my name change so quickly Nick-D (talk) 08:04, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

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Farsiwan

When you get a chance, could you take a look at the Farsiwan article, and recent history. In English, and even in the demographic section of the Encyc. of Islam the specific meaning is the important one, even though the word originally meant simply Persian speaker. Thanks. --Bejnar (talk) 05:42, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm looking into it now. Kingturtle (talk) 20:44, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Good Article Status

Hello Turtle, do you have to collaborate or take part of an article in order to ask that it be nominated for Good Article Status? --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 02:58, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

No. Anyone can nominate an article for GA status. Go to Misplaced Pages:Good article nominations and read How to nominate an article. Cheers! and if you have more questions, please ask. Kingturtle (talk) 03:08, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Alright, thank you very much. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 03:11, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Hou Tu

Glad to help. : ) --Cerebellum (talk) 03:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Kabul University

If you insist on ignoring the university's website, then perhaps you should refrain from reverting the article to an incorrect version. The change you reversed was a perfectly legitimate edit based on the most authoritative source. The university has "Da Kabul Pohantoon" written on it's emblem, as well as on it's buildings, including the office of admissions and office of the provost. "Daaneshgah-e Kabul" is not stated anywhere except on this stupid article. Don't be an idiot. And please stop assisting certain people in carving out an alternate reality here on wikipedia. You look foolish in doing so. --KoonWoz (talk) 22:35, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Thuringowa High School

Hi the website that you are talking about is my website so there is no copyright issues with this page, thanks for being on the ball. Thuringowacityrep (talk) 03:13, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Terrific! That makes it a lot easier. Please follow the instructions that I posted in your Talk page to release the content freely under the GNU Free Documentation License. Cheers, Kingturtle (talk) 13:03, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

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Welcome

Thanks! And I'm greeting you too. I hope, there aren't too much translation errors in my contributions. If so, please excuse it. --Taxiarchos228 (talk) 14:24, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks. Ann arbor street (talk) 20:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Notability

Hello Kingturtle, further to your edit diff I am not sure where and how you suggest he meets such criteria. Please comment here or on the relevant talk page. It is not that he is not mentioned, it is just that the facts that he is mentioned about are not sufficient for notability for an iskcon leader, which normally are quite demanding. Wikidās ॐ 14:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

In my judgment Sankarshan Das Adhikari has enough of a presence to be notable, but I completely understand your arguments, and I will not protest your re-adding the notice. Kingturtle (talk) 14:36, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I just want to make sure some sources to that effect can be added if this is the case. I am still not sure what you mean by the 'presence'. Wikidās ॐ 14:47, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

By presence I mean that he is in the media enough for my standards. By presence I do not mean anything about his personal appearance or his supernatural spirit. Kingturtle (talk) 14:50, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

License deprecation

Thanks for the heads up. Weird term, "license deprecation". Only on Misplaced Pages. Cheers! -- Mwanner | Talk 14:31, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

2008 World Series

I am reverting editors who are refusing to participate in the discussion already in progress. How can this be considered a violation of WP:3RR? In addition, I've only reverted twice, so there's no violation here. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 14:26, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

There are exceptions, see: Misplaced Pages:3RR#Exceptions. Just please proceed with caution. There are other editors around who can help. Kingturtle (talk) 14:29, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm aware, but one of the editors actively involved with this article is currently not around. I'm doing my best to keep this article in good shape before we go forward with a peer review and GA nom. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 14:30, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

The article's success does not live or die solely on the quote in question. You can let that issue rest until other editors can assist you. Also, it can be helpful to summon editors who are not involved. Just food for thought. I'm sorry that the 3RR warning is written so harshly. Kingturtle (talk) 14:49, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Checkuser

I have filed an RFCU on User:Sap ip regarding the Sonal Shah issue .Zuppeandsalad (talk) 06:20, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Excessive links

Woops, I just saw your addition of an excessive links template to Pine Middle School shooting. I recently added all those references because the article was recently at AfD for lack of notability and I wanted to prevent that from happening again. I'll try to expand the article a bit and use each of those references and then I'll take the template off. If you have a problem just ask, thanks. --Banime (talk) 16:46, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay I improved the article and removed it, thanks. --Banime (talk) 17:37, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Wow, nice work! Kingturtle (talk) 18:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Protect article

Hello and good evening friend,

please protect the Khalji article from vandalism. ty--84.59.195.193 (talk) 21:36, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup: Winchester Model 52

Thanks- this article is certainly a work in progress (esp. since I haven't even written the Design section yet)- could you suggest what other tweaks I should give it? (Besides images: finding PD photos of any but the earliest (pre-'23) versions is not easy.)--Solicitr (talk) 22:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Dear Turtle: Please reconsider the deletion of the entry. The entry is a legitimate bio of a published author and descriptor of a new book which is legitimately displayed on amazon and barnes nobels. If anything in the entry is 'blatant', please let me know what should be deleted to allow it. Like any author and thought leader, I think I have the right to appear. It is not an attempt to advertise but to inform. Will consider revision as you recommend.

Saved by Zero

Hi. I noticed that you protected this page, due to some irregular edits. I looked into the history a bit, and it seems that there is some sourced material that was improperly removed, and I'd like to re-add it, in a properly formatted and cited manner.

Since you're the protecting admin, I'm letting you know about my wish to edit the article, taking responsibility for my edit, and requesting your okay on unprotecting the article, with the understanding that I'll help keep an eye on it for any shenanigans.

Thanks, GTBacchus 06:41, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

No problem. It is protected only from anonymous users. I encourage you to work on the article. Kingturtle (talk) 16:51, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Image:Hair-punishment.jpg

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Unified login

Hi Kinggturtle,
I am a busy user of German WP. Now I heared that I could unify my logon. The only problem ist that, someone uses the username "horge" I use in germany in the English WP. This user has no edits. Before I heared about the unified login, i created a account as "horge_de". Could you help me end remove the en horge? Thanks and best wishes from Germany --Horge de (talk) 17:59, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

As the account has no edits, it can be usurped; to do so, place a request at Misplaced Pages:Changing username/Usurpations. The process is fairly easy, but if you have any trouble, let me know. Kingturtle (talk) 19:59, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Help on Mae West Article

Please see my recent note in Discussion on the Mae West page re references. An editor named Wildhartlivie watches this article like a hawk along with some friends like User:Pinkadelica. They insist on having the unsightly reference template at the top of the article forever no matter how many references that are put in. It seems to me that there is some sort of personal policing of this article going on and that certain editors are hell-bent on controlling the content 100%. Reading correspondence between Wildhartlivie and Pinkadelica on their talk pages supports that suspicion (not very nice reading either, by the way). Its this allowed? I thought I made a reasonable point in Discussion just now, but it only took 4 minutes for Wilhardlivie to intercede again. We need an objective administrator's help here to get that template out of there one way or another. Would you please help or forward this to someone who can? EmilEikS (talk) 02:57, 21 November 2008 (UTC)