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:::::I am not mistaken - firstly President is completely separated from the Government and secondly he doesn't have a "host of powers" but couple of ceremonial peacetime duties like receiving credential letters from ambassadors. It is a completely different issue that Tadić is using the situation where his party holds all powers to play Putin and meddle into duties which are not his per constitution (he can do it because obviously he as the leader of the Democratic party which leads the govt which means what he says the govt will fulfill but if the govt was ran by a different party he would be simply blabbering and we see such situation in Poland and Czech R.)--] (]) 21:52, 9 November 2008 (UTC) :::::I am not mistaken - firstly President is completely separated from the Government and secondly he doesn't have a "host of powers" but couple of ceremonial peacetime duties like receiving credential letters from ambassadors. It is a completely different issue that Tadić is using the situation where his party holds all powers to play Putin and meddle into duties which are not his per constitution (he can do it because obviously he as the leader of the Democratic party which leads the govt which means what he says the govt will fulfill but if the govt was ran by a different party he would be simply blabbering and we see such situation in Poland and Czech R.)--] (]) 21:52, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Again like I said before, reactions to the election results unlike reactions to the independence declaration do not require any power behind them because they do not create any effect.--] (]) 11:00, 10 November 2008 (UTC) ::::::Again like I said before, reactions to the election results unlike reactions to the independence declaration do not require any power behind them because they do not create any effect.--] (]) 11:00, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

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Stop trying to use a Pakistani hate article as a "reliable source". You are now dangerous close to breaking 3RR and are also guilty of BLP violations. ''']] ]''' 21:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

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Kosovo-Nauru

Nice catch. We do have a speedy criterion for that (G4), so it is now deleted. If he continues this best to take it to WP:ANI. Wizardman 19:34, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Proposed topic ban

Tocino, I was reading something recently about you; the topic ban discussion, I am sure you are well aware of. Its sad when it comes to a point where elected administrators are having to extend or initiate bans on certain people on certain pages because of alleged disruption the said user has conducted - hence why often, the uninvolved administrative opinion is usually key in the outcome of a decision of whether or not it should be implemented or not. I have been in such situations before, and I have evaluted user's edits to the point where I feel I can suitably make a reasoned judgement and made the changes where necessary. Consensus plays it role too, though. I have noted in the past that I feel you did not merit, for want of a better word, a topic ban for your edits; incidentally, with the administrator you mention most in your posts, Husond, here - back in July. Now, I don't want to be topic-banning (as horrible as it sounds) somebody who had made useful and sometimes good contributions to articles, where they have been appreciated by other editors - as was the conclusion in the comment I linked before. However, the consensus now appears to have changed and the topic ban discussion I first linked, seems to suggest that people now have a different view. I've noted this comment as being one, particularly, where there was a highlighted disagreement. So what's happened? I don't want any nonsense about pro-Serbian and pro-Kosovan views, or any other drivel that is irrelevant. What do you think has to be done, and what do you think the problem is? I need an explanation that is clear and isn't full of accusations and so on. If you could suggest ways in which you feel you can improve yourself, that would be welcome. Caulde 16:46, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Archiving assistance

Hi Tocino.  :) May I set up an archive bot for your talkpage? Currently the page is very long, around 80K, and some people's browsers start having trouble with anything over 32K. But I could set up an automated archiving system for the page, and then you wouldn't have to worry about it anymore? It would automatically archive any threads which had been inactive for a certain amount of time, such as 30 days. Please let me know, --Elonka 18:58, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Done! It'll kick in on the next pulse, which will be sometime in the next 24 hours, and then do a daily check after that. I've got it tweaked right now to automatically archive any thread which hasn't had any activity in a month, but I can configure this if you would like something different. And don't worry, it'll never completely empty out the page or anything -- it will harvest threads down to a minimum of five, and then leave things alone unless there's more activity after that. Enjoy, and let me know if you have any questions, --Elonka 23:40, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

San Marino response

"Sono convinto che la vittoria del rinnovamento negli Stati Uniti avrà positive ripercussioni sullo scenario internazionale e darà nuova voce, anche in Europa, al desiderio di una nuova politica di riforme che superi il conservatorismo e affermi un nuovo, piu’ moderno ed equo ordine mondiale”. Lo dichiara il segretario agli Esteri della Repubblica di San Marino Fiorenzo Stolfi in occasione dell’elezione di Barack Obama Hussein a presidente degli Stati Uniti.

"I am convinced that the victory of renovation in the US will have positive effects on the international scenario and will give a new voice, also in Europe, to the desire of a reformations policy (pardon mf, I know it's ugly... hope you caught the meaning...) which could overcome conservatorism and impose a new, more modern and equal world order." This is the declaration the Foreign Affairs Secretary of Repubblica di San Marino, Fiorenzo Stolfi, in occasion of Barack Obama Hussein's election as President of the United States.

I did my best... of course it'll be needing some cleanup. Thanks and good work. --Attilios (talk) 07:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I think he means that the victory of renovation in the US will have positive effects on the international... and will give a new voice to reformations policy. He hopes the latter should impose a new world order. LEt me know for any clarification! Ciao and good work. --Attilios (talk) 07:45, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Your page

Please remove the nationalist nonsense.Max Mux (talk) 20:24, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Removing content

Please do not remove the content on the statement of the Crown Prince. You are right that Serbia is not a monarchy but that is why he is a Crown Prince not a King. Notice the difference between these two. But still he is recognised as such, he has the right to be addressed as His Royal Highness and is officially entitled to live in the Royal Palace.--Avala (talk) 12:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry but the name of that article is not Reaction by Governments to the United States presidential election, 2008 but International reaction to the United States presidential election, 2008 and Alexander is an official Crown Prince. He will never become the king unless the constitution is changed through referendum to allow monarchy instead of the republic but it doesn't mean he is any less a Prince. It has got nothing to do with adding the opinion of the opposition leaders which can be added anyway. If you want to add the opinion of communist leaders go ahead because like I said the article name is not Reaction by Governments and the nature of this event is such that it doesn't require official reaction only--Avala (talk) 17:56, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
First of all you must show me the link which shows the policy that International reaction is strictly restricted to elected officials. This way it's just your opinion that it shouldn't be added and "I don't like this" removal is forbidden. Secondly it is not the same to Bjork situation as Bjork's opinion is irrelevant for Kosovo recognition which that article in essence deals with while election reaction is simply that, reaction to the even which doesn't create any effect.--Avala (talk) 21:12, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
First of all those Hollywood celebrities you mentioned in summary, they are domestic. Second of all - "fake king" ? I will repeat what you didn't read - He is recognised as Crown Prince, he has the right to be addressed as His Royal Highness and is officially entitled to live in the Royal Palace. He is not a king and it was never implied that he was. Comparing this with Sealand is not serious.--Avala (talk) 21:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
President is also per constitution not part of the Government so do you suggest erasing it as well? Reaction by the Crown Prince is a legitimate, relevant reaction from Serbia - simple as that. He doesn't have to be a ruling monarch. We would have included Prince Charles's words if he made a reaction just as well.--Avala (talk) 21:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
I am not mistaken - firstly President is completely separated from the Government and secondly he doesn't have a "host of powers" but couple of ceremonial peacetime duties like receiving credential letters from ambassadors. It is a completely different issue that Tadić is using the situation where his party holds all powers to play Putin and meddle into duties which are not his per constitution (he can do it because obviously he as the leader of the Democratic party which leads the govt which means what he says the govt will fulfill but if the govt was ran by a different party he would be simply blabbering and we see such situation in Poland and Czech R.)--Avala (talk) 21:52, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
Again like I said before, reactions to the election results unlike reactions to the independence declaration do not require any power behind them because they do not create any effect.--Avala (talk) 11:00, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Timothy F. Geithner

Stop trying to use a Pakistani hate article as a "reliable source". You are now dangerous close to breaking 3RR and are also guilty of BLP violations. Grsz 21:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)