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User:Fastily

• Fastily (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi) (assign permissions)

I mostly tag images which are in violation of Misplaced Pages's image policies but I also look at the pages delinquent images are linked to and remove any vandalism I see. The rollback feature would be very helpful to me in performing this task. Fastily (talk) 04:39, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

 Not done As far as I can see you do have nearly no experience in reverting vandalism. I may recommend using tools like Twinkle or undo in order to gain some experience in this area before reapplying. —αἰτίας •discussion• 12:48, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

 Done Ruslik (talk) 12:53, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

We reviewed this user's request simultaneously and I had already assigned rollback to them, when I discovered that you had already denied the same request. I think we can live with the fact that wikipedia will have one more rollbacker? Ruslik (talk) 12:57, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I guess you reviewed this user's last 500 edits back to March 2008, as I did, before you decided on this request? When I did this I found barely a revert of vandalism. Granting rollback to users with little experience is just okay, but granting it to users, which have nearly no experience is not okay. Especially not if the request was declined already. —αἰτίας •discussion• 13:05, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I reviewed. I checked several reverts that I found and detected no problems. I guess we have different standards. I want to apologies again, but I did not know that you already declined this request. If I had known I would never have given the rollback. However, in my opinion, it would be unfair to remove rollback several minutes after it was granted. Ruslik (talk) 13:20, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Just as a note, it might be helpful to point to the reverts. I can't say I found any in the last 500 contribs. PeterSymonds (talk) 13:25, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

See , , and . Ruslik (talk) 13:35, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

@PeterSymonds: I reviewed the last 500 edits very carefully and there exactly two reverts of vandalism (on the same article): 05:11, 8 April 2008 and 05:11, 8 April 2008.

@Ruslik0: While there are different standards, there are sill some guidelines/principles. I may cite Misplaced Pages:Requests for permissions: “Users who do not demonstrate an understanding of what constitutes capable vandalism fighting, either because they have no or little history of doing so, or show a poor ability to discern between good and bad faith edits will not be granted this right.” The two reverts I named above do clearly not constitute such a history. Therefore, if you don't remove rollback yourself, I regret that I will have to bring this to the noticeboard. —αἰτίας •discussion• 13:39, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

@Ruslik0: Just to correct what you wrote above: Two of the four reverts you name above are evidently not reverts of vandalism (, ). —αἰτίας •discussion• 13:43, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

PeterSymonds asked for examples of reverts in general. As to vandalism you missed this . I will remove rollback if you continue to insist (it was my error after all). However I think this user is able to distinguish vandalism from good-faith edits. So I ask you to reconsider. Ruslik (talk) 13:52, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Seriously, do you want to argue about whether the user has 2 or 3 reverts of vandalism? I don't want to. Regardless of whether User:Fastily has 2 or 3 reverts of vandalism, both can't constitute sufficient experience to get rollback. —αἰτίας •discussion• 14:01, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

User:Jake Wartenberg

• Jake Wartenberg (talk · contribs · deleted · count · AfD · logs · block log · lu · rfar · spi) (assign permissions)

I would love to be able to use Huggle! Jake Wartenberg (talk) 19:32, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

 Not done Unfortunately, you have less than 250 edits, which is far too low. Your contributions have been fine so far. Keep participating in vandalism fighting and apply again after a week or two. Ruslik (talk) 19:39, 6 December 2008 (UTC)