| Revision as of 12:39, 19 December 2008 editRoadcreature (talk | contribs)4,347 edits @ FisherQueen← Previous edit | Revision as of 12:49, 19 December 2008 edit undoRoadcreature (talk | contribs)4,347 editsm →Text of ban appeal: spNext edit → | ||
| (One intermediate revision by the same user not shown) | |||
| Line 28: | Line 28: | ||
| {{unblock reviewed|1=You can't conclude that there is consensus before people that have been invited to comment have had a chance to do so. But the ban itself is appealed at Arbcom; what matters here is that no reason has been provided for enforcement. Blocking admin is clearly emotionally involved. Btw, I'd appreciate it if a reviewer would take more than two seconds to investigate. ] (], ]) 11:56, 19 December 2008 (UTC)|decline=After reviewing the ANI thread, I'd feel that I was inappropriately acting against consensus if I unblocked you. — ]<span style="font-size: smaller;"> (] · ])</span> 12:34, 19 December 2008 (UTC)}} | {{unblock reviewed|1=You can't conclude that there is consensus before people that have been invited to comment have had a chance to do so. But the ban itself is appealed at Arbcom; what matters here is that no reason has been provided for enforcement. Blocking admin is clearly emotionally involved. Btw, I'd appreciate it if a reviewer would take more than two seconds to investigate. ] (], ]) 11:56, 19 December 2008 (UTC)|decline=After reviewing the ANI thread, I'd feel that I was inappropriately acting against consensus if I unblocked you. — ]<span style="font-size: smaller;"> (] · ])</span> 12:34, 19 December 2008 (UTC)}} | ||
| :(ec) I don't see how you can come to that conclusion before anyone that has been invited to comment, i.e. |
:(ec) I don't see how you can come to that conclusion before anyone that has been invited to comment, i.e. the users that know me and have worked with me, have had a chance to do so. ] (], ]) 12:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
| Line 38: | Line 38: | ||
| *] | *] | ||
| *] <small>] | ] | ]</small> 12:36, 19 December 2008 (UTC) | *] <small>] | ] | ]</small> 12:36, 19 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
| ===Text of ban appeal=== | |||
| <div style="border:1px solid black; background:#FFEE99; padding:3px;"> | |||
| To whom it may concern, | |||
| A decision to community-ban me was taken prematurely, before anyone who has been invited to comment had been able to do so, and before any kind of evidence was presented let alone discussed. Even so, various users had already objected to imposing a ban, presenting numerous arguments. | |||
| Note also that the decision was taken while the issue that led to the proposal to ban was still under review and was discussed with Jim Wales, which the ban now renders impossible. | |||
| The decision was taken by an admin who is clearly emotionally involved. | |||
| I have constructively contributed to Misplaced Pages for a long time, and even while I am now mostly occupied elsewhere, I'd like to continue to do so on occasion. My additions to the encyclopedia have always found considerable support. | |||
| I am also always willing to improve my behaviour, as I hope everyone is. I am however not aware of having caused any kind of disruption and have seen no evidence to substantiate such a claim. On the contrary, I believe that I have been extremely patient with users that have incessantly harassed and stalked me and purposely keep adding false information to medical articles to promote their opinion that a whole range of neurological diseases don't really exist or are psychosomatic in nature. | |||
| I believe that I have always responded positively to any suggestions, and I have offered to do so again. | |||
| I wish to add that I have enjoyed working with a lot of users here. The users complaining about me have not attempted to work with me at any time; many of them I have never met or only briefly in passing. | |||
| Highest regards, | |||
| Prof.drs. Guido den Broeder | |||
| http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Guido_den_Broeder | |||
| http://en.citizendium.org/User:Guido_den_Broeder</div> | |||
| <!--page footer, do not edit--> | <!--page footer, do not edit--> | ||
Revision as of 12:49, 19 December 2008
| User | Talk | Edits | Pinboard | Drafts | Articles | Projects |
 Archives |
| Prof. Anton Komaroff (2007): "None of the participants in creating the 1988 CFS case definition and name ever expressed any concern that it might TRIVIALISE the illness. We were insensitive to that possibility and WE WERE WRONG." |
| Prof. Malcolm Hooper (2007): "The simplest test for M.E. is just to say to the patient ‘stand over there for ten minutes’." |
but may still come visit when you least expect it
Notes:- Since there is apparently a free pass for other users to modify my talk page contributions, I am sadly no longer able to respond on talk pages other than my own.
- I am currently prohibited from editing my user page. Therefore, the information is not up-to-date.
Ban proposal
Just so you are aware, I have contacted a checkuser – here – to investigate whether or not you have been, contra to policy, using other accounts to support/re-enforce your own point of view on articles. Seeing as you are the subject of a ban proposal and I have a small feeling (some of which is explained in the diff I supply above to the CUs talk page) that you have, I felt it necessary to do so. I will make my judgement, support or oppose, partially upon that. Regards, Caulde 19:36, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for informing me, Caulde. Feel free to do so, but it'll probably be declined. I've asked for a CU on myself before, when it was claimed that I was the same as another user, which has happened more than once, but they wouldn't do it. Regards, Guido den Broeder (talk, visit) 19:41, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- It appears that they didn't want to wait for any kind of investigation. Thanks again for the effort, Guido den Broeder (talk, visit) 12:35, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Community ban
Per the discussion at , I've indefinitely community-banned you William M. Connolley (talk) 11:26, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Roadcreature (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Admin has not provided a reason for an indefinite block. Bans are not blocks, and the decision was taken before any evidence was presented and before the users who have been invited to comment had a chance to do so.
Decline reason:
As of this writing, there is indeed a community consensus at WP:ANI#The bigger picture - banning? for your ban. You were also able to present your side of the argument there. I find that the block was correct as an enforcement of that ban. It can be appealed to the Arbitration Committee. — Sandstein 11:49, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Roadcreature (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
You can't conclude that there is consensus before people that have been invited to comment have had a chance to do so. But the ban itself is appealed at Arbcom; what matters here is that no reason has been provided for enforcement. Blocking admin is clearly emotionally involved. Btw, I'd appreciate it if a reviewer would take more than two seconds to investigate. Guido den Broeder (talk, visit) 11:56, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Decline reason:
After reviewing the ANI thread, I'd feel that I was inappropriately acting against consensus if I unblocked you. — FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 12:34, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- (ec) I don't see how you can come to that conclusion before anyone that has been invited to comment, i.e. the users that know me and have worked with me, have had a chance to do so. Guido den Broeder (talk, visit) 12:39, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
See also:
- WP:ANI#Improper use of MfD page?
- User talk:Jimbo Wales#Attack page
- User talk:Jimbo Wales#User page
- Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Guido den Broeder/Wikipedia, the Social Experiment
- Misplaced Pages:DRV#User:Guido den Broeder.2FWikipedia.2C the Social Experiment
- User_talk:Rlevse#Request for CU check seicer | talk | contribs 12:36, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Text of ban appeal
To whom it may concern,
A decision to community-ban me was taken prematurely, before anyone who has been invited to comment had been able to do so, and before any kind of evidence was presented let alone discussed. Even so, various users had already objected to imposing a ban, presenting numerous arguments.
Note also that the decision was taken while the issue that led to the proposal to ban was still under review and was discussed with Jim Wales, which the ban now renders impossible.
The decision was taken by an admin who is clearly emotionally involved.
I have constructively contributed to Misplaced Pages for a long time, and even while I am now mostly occupied elsewhere, I'd like to continue to do so on occasion. My additions to the encyclopedia have always found considerable support.
I am also always willing to improve my behaviour, as I hope everyone is. I am however not aware of having caused any kind of disruption and have seen no evidence to substantiate such a claim. On the contrary, I believe that I have been extremely patient with users that have incessantly harassed and stalked me and purposely keep adding false information to medical articles to promote their opinion that a whole range of neurological diseases don't really exist or are psychosomatic in nature.
I believe that I have always responded positively to any suggestions, and I have offered to do so again.
I wish to add that I have enjoyed working with a lot of users here. The users complaining about me have not attempted to work with me at any time; many of them I have never met or only briefly in passing.
Highest regards,
Prof.drs. Guido den Broeder
http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Guido_den_Broeder
http://en.citizendium.org/User:Guido_den_Broeder
| Nancy Klimas (2008): "The one single predictor of who is going to stay sick after a viral infection is the severity of the initial viral infection." |
|
The Helping Hand Barnstar | |
| Thank you once again Guido for stepping into the heated debate on the ANI noticeboards with your helpful comments surrounding the edit conflict. I really appreciated that. Here's a barnstar for your efforts. ;) Cheers dude (talk) 02:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC) |
| Martin Luther King: "Everything that we see is a shadow cast by that which we do not see." |