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ARSbot

User:ARSBot doesn't seem to be working. Is there something that needs to be fixed? -- Banjeboi 02:09, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, it looks like it was instead an open reference which masked all the other entries. This then would be a bug instead. Is there a way to address that? -- Banjeboi 00:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Of course. I'll throw a thingy into the bot to tell it to terminate the summary any time it sees a < . --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 01:37, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Coolio. Thank you! -- Banjeboi 16:35, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Someone noticed

		The Article Rescue Barnstar
		I hereby award you the Article Rescue Barnstar for your exceptional - and wonky - contribution of the ARSbot which has made rescuing articles much easier for the editors working in this valuable field of service to the Misplaced Pages community. Please keep this on your wall of honor and dust it regularly knowing that the silent majority will never know how much you have helped but appreciate your work all the same as we share vast sums of human knowledge freely and often with style. -- Banjeboi 16:39, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

CSD Warn Bot too quick !!

Hi. I was attempting to go through the CSD procedure for an article, and had placed the 'db-xxxx' tag on the article. I had just placed the warning notice on the authors talk page, when I was informed of an edit conflict as your bot had added a warning for me. I'm not using Twinkle or any automated process, so it's slower, but the delay between tagging the article itself and getting the edit conflict was < 30 seconds. This then leads me to a problem - do I just stop adding messages to a user's talk page because the bot will tag them ? If there's any possibility that the bot may not catch the article (or not in a reasonable time), then I should, but obviously I don't want to go throught he process if it's being made redundant by the bot. Any thoughts ? CultureDrone (talk) 08:16, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Bot runs every 30 minutes or so. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 11:39, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

The Starlims Page you commented about

I wrote a comment as instructed on the Starlims page. Just wanted to make sure you see it and hopefully you can help me in some way. Here is what I wrote in response to your comment:

Yes, I did write this page on behalf of Starlims. Starlims is a Nasdaq traded company and I believe that this by itself warrants a Misplaced Pages presence. This article is written in a very impartial manner. I intend to write more pages for Misplaced Pages that are unrelated to Starlims. Choosing the user name Starlims was just pure inexperience on my part. I thought it would be symbolic to use this user name so I can always remember the first post I wrote. Please remove the warnings on the page or advise otherwise. I only have good intentions and understand very well the concept and the importance of Misplaced Pages. Thanks... --Starlims (talk) 14:11, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Editnotice

I've moved your Editnotice from MediaWiki:Editnotice-3-ST47 to User talk:ST47/Editnotice. In the User: and User_talk: namespaces a special subpage /Editnotice (case sensitive) can be used instead of filling up the mediawiki space. I've left this page full protected, but you may want to remove that if you don't think it will be a vandal target. Thank you, — xaosflux 03:46, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

CSDWarnBot destroyed existing talk page comments

In this edit, it seems to have replaced the page with the warning instead of adding the warning to the page.—Kww(talk) 20:42, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

CSDWarnBot image size issue

It missed the size parameter, causing the image to be (by default) displayed at 620px × 620px. Any ideas? — neuro 15:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

It fills most of the page Alio The Fool 16:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

whoops, I see people talking about it above. It looks crazy. Sorry for the extra section Alio The Fool 16:53, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Needs moar emergency shutoff. — neuro 17:35, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Just a thought....

I noticed that your bot's talk page notice includes a link to WP:WMD and I got to thinking that new users might think that means "weapons of mass destruction" (what "WMD" normally stands for off-wiki). Perhaps it would be wise to have it link to WP:WWMPD instead? It's not a big deal, but I think it may cause some unnecessary confusion to new users. (on the other hand, maybe they'll be more likely actually read the page thinking there's some way they can retaliate to whoever deleted their page. hmm... :P ) Thingg 03:49, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Good catch, I've changed the link. --uǝʌǝsʎʇɹoɟʇs(st47) 02:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Signpost updated for November 17, 2008 and before.

Because the Signpost hasn't been sent in a while, to save space, I've condensed all seven issues that were not sent into this archive. Only the three issues from November are below.

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You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Ralbot (talk) 10:42, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

restoring images

restoring image

Hello, these images - one of which was deleted by you as the fu rationale was invalid, th other was ophaned - I would now like to use again. would it be possible for you to restore them, please? I would like to fix the rationale too. Image:Betty.jpg & Image:Bettyturpin.jpg Many thanks --GunGagdin 17:55, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Done by east718. ST47 20:05, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Assume this was in error?

 – iridescent 01:09, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, sorry. I didn't even see an edit conflict. ST47 01:12, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

No worries… – iridescent 01:24, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

ArbCom vote

I checked my edit numbers before I voted on the checker provided and it said I had enough before the appropriate date to vote. Please check again. If that checker is providing erroneous information, it should be removed. Mervyn Emrys (talk) 23:22, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

The checker is actually worthless - it tells you your edits to date, the requirement is to have 150 by november 1st. ST47 (talk) 00:29, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

ST47, can you please check again? I went in and checked the contribs of Mervyn Emrys (talk · contribs) by hand, and by my count, he does meet the standard, with 208 edits prior to November 1st. Is it only counting certain namespaces? --Elonka 03:33, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

It has to be in the article space, I believe. Fritzpoll (talk) 09:53, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

This user has (by my count) 83 article space edits before Nov 1 Fritzpoll (talk) 09:59, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Let me see if I have this right: Are you telling me I wasted all the time I spent reviewing all these candidates statements and answers to questions because the account checker Misplaced Pages posted on the main ArbCom elections page is defective? Do you have ANY idea how long that took? Do you understand what "Mickey Mouse" means in this context? Mervyn Emrys (talk) 14:17, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

To keep discussion threads together, I recommend that this be continued at WT:ACE2008#Eligibility. --Elonka 18:34, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I checked wannabe kate, I have more than enough

Wannabe kate shows edits by month and says I have plenty of mainspace edits.--Ipatrol (talk) 01:11, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Your 150th mainspace edit wasn't until November 21. ST47 (talk) 01:21, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Report request

Hi ST47, among all the wonderful data-gathering tools that you have, do you have anything that could issue a report on "inactive" voters who just emerged to vote in the elections? There's currently a discussion at WP:AN about some editors who emerged from mothballs (one who had been inactive for over a year!) just to vote, and there are concerns about canvassing and sockpuppetry. It would be really helpful if we could see a report that showed of all the voters, which ones hadn't participated anywhere else on the project in months, and where those voters were voting. Can you think of any easy way to present that data? Thanks, --Elonka 04:17, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I was looking at this yesterday and I think it should be possible. Bot's running right now to get the data, I'mm post it once it's done. ST47 (talk) 11:29, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I only found 24 users who didn't make any edits before the election and after November 15. Here's the list:

Majorly NOK on AnthonyQBachler last edit before elections 2008-10-14T21:19:21Z
Terence NOK on AnthonyQBachler last edit before elections 2008-11-01T10:02:43Z
Mww113 NOK on AnthonyQBachler last edit before elections 2008-11-14T20:50:37Z
Toffile NOK on Carcharoth last edit before elections 2008-09-03T00:22:57Z
ATren NOK on Carcharoth last edit before elections 2008-11-09T19:05:07Z
CreazySuit NOK on Carcharoth last edit before elections 2008-10-10T03:40:12Z
Zereshk NOK on Carcharoth last edit before elections 2008-10-28T20:27:02Z
Naerii NOK on Carcharoth last edit before elections 2008-10-19T19:50:51Z
Skinwalker NOK on Carcharoth last edit before elections 2008-11-11T22:58:56Z
Node ue NOK on Carcharoth last edit before elections 2008-11-14T21:29:39Z
PseudoOne NOK on Casliber last edit before elections 2008-10-21T11:07:23Z
Neokamek NOK on Casliber last edit before elections 2008-08-24T03:01:22Z
MagneticFlux NOK on Casliber last edit before elections 2008-07-29T22:27:24Z
Bunchofgrapes NOK on Charles Matthews last edit before elections 2008-10-09T21:20:04Z
Coredesat NOK on Cool Hand Luke last edit before elections 2008-05-05T04:57:46Z
6SJ7 NOK on Cool Hand Luke last edit before elections 2008-10-16T10:51:01Z
Samir NOK on Jayvdb last edit before elections 2007-10-29T19:55:11Z
Armatura NOK on Jayvdb last edit before elections 2008-10-15T22:02:09Z
Lakinekaki NOK on Jehochman last edit before elections 2008-09-22T22:19:54Z
Yamakiri NOK on Kmweber last edit before elections 2008-11-02T00:30:03Z
Glacier Wolf NOK on Kmweber last edit before elections 2008-11-04T18:01:42Z
Marcsin NOK on Kmweber last edit before elections 2008-10-15T15:22:08Z
Rockero NOK on Rlevse last edit before elections 2008-11-12T07:55:39Z
Reneeholle NOK on Rlevse last edit before elections 2008-11-13T12:25:10Z

ST47 (talk) 11:42, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you! Can you put those in {{user}} format, with sub "**" lines on who they voted for or against? Thanks, --Elonka 17:39, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'm getting anecdotal evidence that the above list isn't quite complete. For example, it didn't catch:

• Hayk (talk · contribs) (no edits since July)
• Hovalp (talk · contribs) (no edits since June)

Could you please check again? Thanks, --Elonka 17:46, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Both of those users have since had their votes removed, and were not checked. ST47 (talk) 20:20, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah, well would it be possible to get the report of anyone who's even trying to vote? I had assumed you were checking all signatures on the page, since the "Naerii" one above technically wasn't made by Naerii (talk · contribs) but by the new account instead. --Elonka 20:47, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Image request

Hi, it's me again.  :) On your fantastic graph Image:ACE2008.jpg, which I am now using on my User:Elonka/ACE2008 page, I see that Caspian Blue at one point uploaded a slightly different version that had bolder colors, and also lined up the names with the actual lines. Would this be easy for you to emulate, or if we want those colors, would it be something that Caspian needs to do manually each time? --Elonka 18:13, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Not something I can easily do. ST47 (talk) 18:57, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

indenting

Just had that pointed out to me - fixing it.--Tznkai (talk) 03:29, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Just FYI - its not a mainspace edit problem per se.--Tznkai (talk) 03:31, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Feature request for CSDWarnBot

CSDWarnBot just edited my talk page with a deletion tag warning, and that is fine - it was very useful :-). It would be better if the edit summary included a link to the section created (a "→") so users can quickly navigate to the section created.

On another issue, I don't really understand your comment on this talk page "ATTENTION! IF YOU ARE REPORTING AN ISSUE WITH ONE OF MY BOTS... Visit /dev/null...Don't come back." If you mean you don't care/want comments on bots, you could possibly make that more explicit, or direct people to a subpage where others, like me, will help answer questions for you.--Commander Keane (talk) 09:07, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Re:ArbCom vote

Hi - thanks for the notice. I had registered on October 18, but misunderstood the second criteria. Thanks for making the correction, Shiva (Visnu) 17:50, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Missing candidate

I think you've missed a candidate off the 13:31, 6 December 2008 version of Image:ACE2008.jpg. Carcharoth (talk) 18:54, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Yes, a few have dropped off. It used to be showing 12 candidates, but now it's only showing 10. I'd thought it was the "top" 10 candidates, but it's not listing Jayvdb (talk · contribs) at all, and he's currently at #8 according to your other data. --Elonka 18:58, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

That's odd. I'll fix it when I update the graph, which I shall do now. ST47 (talk) 01:35, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Graph colors

Hello, ST47. Thank you for sharing the good info with the community, but could you use bolder colors than the current neutral colors in order to clearly distinguish candidates? Thanks.--Caspian blue 02:25, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

No, that's not really possible with ms excel without manually changing every candidate's color every time, which is annoying. ST47 (talk) 02:41, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Would it be possible to publish the data you use to generate the chart? That would allow others to fiddle with the colours if they wanted to. It's getting the data from the bot-updated pages that is difficult for most people. Once they have the basic data, most people can fiddle in Excel to their heart's content. Carcharoth (talk) 14:52, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

User:ST47/ACEraw. 340 kB, tab-separated. ST47 (talk) 15:18, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Wouldn't be right for me to do a graph, but I hope someone else does, and that you keep updating your one if no-one else does one in customised colours. I have seen other requests for stats, but some are purely for my own interest, so I'll do those myself. Carcharoth (talk) 17:31, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Updated again. ST47 (talk) 02:46, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Arbcom voting table

Hi ST, thanks for taking the trouble to design a table for the election.

I'm just wondering though, is there any reason why the table listing defaults to percentages rather than aggregate votes? If I'm not mistaken, Jimbo's usual practice is to promote those users who get the most aggregate votes, in which case (for example) Vassyana will miss out, since although he has a better percentage his aggregate is well below that of some other candidates. Gatoclass (talk) 05:38, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

I believe he said he'll look at both, but (discussions from WT:ACE support this) in the past appointments have been the top people by %. ST47 (talk) 11:40, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

WT:ACE2008 discussions include this one about this very issue. Carcharoth (talk) 01:33, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

IMO net support is a better yardstick, and I've added my opinion in that regard to the thread in question. Gatoclass (talk) 09:11, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

ST47's email address?

Hiya. I've an email thread sitting in my inbox that I want to forward to you. Could you drop a note to agkwikigmail.com to allow me to add your address to my contacts list, and subsequently send you the thread?

The matter is regarding Mervyn_Emrys (talk · contribs), an editor who has voted but has no suffrage; only some of his votes have been indented, and I was hoping you could nuke his contributions with your vote delisting tool

Thanks, AGK 16:46, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

ALL of his votes were indented before he continued his reign of disruption earlier today, which should have earned him a preventative block before he managed to disrupt another 4 candidacies by posting his votes there. I've sen my script after them AGAIN and will leave a talk message. You can email me at EN.WP.ST47@gmail.com. ST47 (talk) 19:24, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Great; thanks for your assistance.

Will load you onto my contacts list in the event that I am ever in need of your polymathic knowledge and technical wizardry. ;-)

AGK 19:39, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

To be clear, I have been actively encouraging Mervyn Emrys (talk · contribs) to put comments on the vote pages, since that was my understanding of the compromise at WT:ACE2008. He knows that his votes don't count numerically, but his commentary is still allowed. Let's not accuse him of being disruptive. --Elonka 19:46, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

And I'm asking him to add a #: so that other people don't have to go around cleaning up after him. He knows they don't count numerically, so he shouldn't be having them counted. ST47 (talk) 19:58, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Isn't it kind of extreme to threaten a new editor with a block, because he's using a "#" instead of "#:"? Let's just indent for him and not worry about it. --Elonka 20:02, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Please see comments of UltraExactZZ on Eligibility at ACE2008, and stop threatening me. Mervyn Emrys (talk) 20:24, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

User:ST47/ACE 2008

I have something similar here. Do I have your permission to carry on with it? --Dylan620 _Contribs 13:41, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Why would you need my permission? ST47 (talk) 13:49, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't want to be accused of plagiarism. --Dylan620 _Contribs 13:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry about it... ST47 (talk) 14:06, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

The bot-generated report

I left a comment at User talk:ST47/ACEE. My comment on the main page got wiped out by the update. I think some of them could be easily fixed - eg. add a link to Rspeer's user page for the one that appears to have no user. Carcharoth (talk) 18:18, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

_{David (contribs)} is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Don't eat yellow snow!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Flaming/MC2008}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Happy holidays! _{David (contribs)} 19:46, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Teh votebot

Hi ST, can you bump up the update frequency for the ACE2008 bot to every two or three minutes? (And fer gawd's sake, don't go eat a sandwich or anything right now! :) Franamax (talk) 23:46, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Changed to every minute. ST47 (talk) 23:48, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar time

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For your outstanding service in managing the Arbcom elections, and for calling everybody idiots. :-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 00:00, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) ST47 (talk) 00:12, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

OTOH, in fixing my additions of newlines, as, e.g., here—they followed from some less-than-careful copy-and-pasting, and I thank you for paying more attention than did I—you called me by my name; surliness is, I don't think you'd mind my saying, a quality that has been imputed to you from time to time, and I must confess that I was a bit disappointed to find that you didn't call me an idiot. Please try harder next time.  :) Joe 19:50, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

More thanks

For keeping tally of the ArbCom votes. I am sure you know how much EVERYONE appreciates it, I just wanted to thank you personally. Slrubenstein | Talk 00:11, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :) ST47 (talk) 00:12, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Roger that. Well done and thanks for your efforts. Even if that bot was incorrectly NOT reporting Bishzilla's tallies. :) ++Lar: t/c 00:14, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

I couldn't agree more with the others on this page. Your work with the ArbCom elections was very much appreciated. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 00:16, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Anon blocks

Hey -- are you intending to be doing those IP blocks with talk page editing disabled? That's normally only done if someone has a history of talk page abuse. Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 21:02, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Not intentionally, Huggle must be doing it automatically, or it's the MediaWiki default... ST47 (talk) 21:03, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Happy ST47's Day!

User:ST47 has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, and therefore, I've officially declared today as ST47's day! For being such a beautiful person and great Wikipedian, enjoy being the Star of the day, dear ST47! Peace, Rlevse ~ A record of your Day will always be kept here.

For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

User:judyrenouf

This edit by judyrenouf (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is actually Ok as it does point to an official website of Anna Wallner. This editor appears to be connected to Anna Wallner and her partner and was apparently just trying to update the articles she edited. Fred Talk 02:17, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Re your block of Judyrenouf

Hey ST47, User talk:Judyrenouf has appealed your block of her and I'm rather confused by what has happened there and why she has been blocked. I see she had several "vandal" warnings on her page which she says she didn't see them until after she was blocked, but I really don't understand why her edits were deemed "vandalism" in the first place, ie "intentional unconstructive edits" and I was hoping you could explain? She has a conflict of interest but I believe she is well intentioned. I don't think those edits were vandalism as defined by policy and I would like to unblock her under an agreement that she will abide by COI and discuss her edits with other users as necessary. I also don't understand why you disabled her ability to edit her own talk page? I would appreciate your advice on this matter. Cheers, Sarah 02:22, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I've unblocked Judyrenouf. It seems rather apparent that there has been some misunderstandings and I think it's probably best for all concerned if I simply unblock her and give her some careful guidance rather than take it to ANi or whatever. I hope that's okay with you. Cheers, Sarah 02:53, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

We editconflicted. I reviewed the edits and left a comment on her talk page. ST47 (talk) 02:59, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for that, ST47. Much appreciated. :) I have given her similar advice by email and have offered her further assistance if need be. I will try to keep on eye on things in case there are any further concerns. Thanks again. :) Sarah 03:13, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

talkin' to a bot...

Your bot took a dump on my talk, and although I thoroughly enjoy talking to a bot... Anyway, the page ref'd wasn't my page - I'm the one who reverted the vandal move and left the stupid redir there so the vandal couldn't repeat the nonsense w/out getting it deleted. I don't give a rip about that redir - just thought you might educate your bot 'bout leaving a dump on admin talk pages. Am I grippin', naw, keep up the good work. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 00:53, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Chloroform entry vandalized again

and it was just after you (or was it a bot you run?) undid a previous vandalism. I undid them, hope I did it right... Benbradley (talk) 01:06, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Looks good to me! ST47 (talk) 01:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

WikiCup

Might I ask why? I'm sure it's a demo for something, or something... Garden. 13:39, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. Working on an automatic updater, wanted to show the sample data to iMatthew on IRC. ST47 (talk) 14:47, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

		Merry Christmas!
		Template:Sound sample box align right Christmas medley A chiptune medley to annoy Ironholds :D Problems playing this file? See media help. Template:Sample box end ST47, here's hoping you're having a wonderful Christmas, and here's also hoping that all your family and friends are well. Lets all hope that the year coming will be a good one! If we've had disputes in the past, I hold no grudges, especially at such a time as this. If you don't know I am, I apologise, feel free to remove this from your page. Come and say hi, I won't bite, I swear! It could even be good for me, you know - I'm feeling a little down at the moment with all of these snowmen giving me the cold shoulder :( — neur ho ho ho 00:11, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

socks

There are a large number of Bambifan101 talk talk pages that need to be deleted for the same reason as the user talk pages you're deleting now. Please consider this. 68.220.175.142 (talk) 01:24, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Having finally finished my pass, it's time for bed, but I will have a look at those in the morning. Thanks! ST47 (talk) 02:16, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

User:STBotI/BADUSER

Would it be possible to add a {{NOINDEX}} and an explanation of the page's purpose at the top, or could it cause problems for the bot? —Snigbrook 16:28, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

That could not cause any problems, the bot would simply overwrite it the next time it saved a dump. ST47 (talk) 18:19, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, then it wouldn't be very helpful, would it? —David Levy 22:04, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

That was my point. ST47 (talk) 23:10, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

What is this page? Gwen Gale (talk) 21:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

I, too, came here to ask what this page is and why my user name appears on it (which I was just advised of by an anonymous editor). I see no explanation on your bot's user and talk pages. —David Levy 22:04, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

I see that DragonflySixtyseven just moved the page to User:STBotI/LEFT-NOTE-FOR-USER. Am I to understand that you (via your bot) have been deeming someone a "bad user" whenever your bot has notified that individual of an image that wasn't properly tagged?
Incidentally, the notification that I received was invalid; it pertained to a Wikimedia logo (properly tagged with Template:Non-free Wikimedia logo, protected and used on the main page), which obviously does not require a fair use rationale. —David Levy 22:20, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

User:STBotI/BADUSER is still up (I think because the bot updated it). Gwen Gale (talk) 22:25, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

DragonflySixtyseven reverted the data dump. It seems to me that the redirect should be deleted (so that it eventually will stop appearing via search engines) and protected against creation (to prevent the bot from recreating it while we wait for its code to be updated). —David Levy 22:43, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

I've done so. If anyone feels that these actions were inappropriate for any reason, please feel free to undo them or request that they be undone. —David Levy 22:47, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

You all couldn't manage to wait for 50 minutes for me to get back online before you moved the page, twice, and deleted it, and blocked the bot for doing its job? ST47 (talk) 23:10, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

1. I see that you referred to our (or possibly just my) actions as "vandalism" in the page restoration log. Does that stem from the same assumption of bad faith that led you to publicly label numerous users (including me) "bad"?

2. I don't see a second page move (aside from yours).

3. I wasn't aware that DragonflySixtyseven had blocked the bot. While I viewed deletion/protection of the redirect as a better solution (because I didn't want the bot's other tasks to be interrupted), I see no justification for the above indignation. After all, your bot was essentially defaming editors.

4. You haven't re-deleted the User:STBotI/BADUSER redirect, which will continue to appear via search engines (thereby implying that the users listed are "bad"). I would re-delete it myself, but I don't want to be accused of further "vandalism." —David Levy 23:26, 27 December 2008 (UTC)r

The redirect needs to stay until code changes are allowed to propagate. If I have not deleted it within a week, you may feel free to remind me then. ST47 (talk) 23:36, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Now can you please explain...

• ...why you used that page title in the first place?
• ...why you labeled my intervention (a good-faith attempt to halt the above incident in a manner that would prevent your bot from being blocked) "vandalism" in a permanent, public log? —David Levy 23:47, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

That page title was used because the page was the data dump file for the badusers subroutine, which identifies potential malicious or clueless uploaders (those who have been warned by the bot more than 10 times, and are listed there with a number greater than 10 next to their name) and reports them to an IRC channel. It is also used for customised warnings every 5 uploads or so reminding the user that they might be blocked if they cause too much of a ruckus. ST47 (talk) 00:20, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

And it didn't occur to you that this would result in all of the listed account names (irrespective of how many times warnings had been issued) appearing on a public page (likely to turn up via Google searches and the like) that appeared to label the associated editors "bad users" (without any explanation)?

This leads me to the question of why you used that name for the subroutine. Do you really believe that it's reasonable to label a user "bad" because a bot has warned him/her more than ten times? And why is the user then reported to an IRC channel (instead of an on-wiki page)?

I await your explanation of why you labeled my good-faith intervention "vandalism" in a permanent, public log. —David Levy 00:56, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Then you've made a mistake and have strayed from WP:NPA. If you don't fix this now, it's going to stir up even more worries. The page should be deleted straight off, the bot shouldn't be run until it no longer needs this page. Gwen Gale (talk) 00:23, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Bullshit. The bot shall continue to run until someone manages to find a problem with the bot, and then I will fix it and the bot will run again. The existence of a redirect is not causing any harm. ST47 (talk) 00:25, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Now you've strayed from WP:CIVIL. User:STBotI/BADUSER is a sweeping personal attack on many users. Personal attacks aren't allowed and are blockable. I plan on deleting and protecting the page if you don't do it yourself. Gwen Gale (talk) 00:28, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

I will have you reverted and reported to ANI if you do so. Doing so will disrupt the operation of the bot. A simple redirect existing for another few days is doing no harm. There's even a nice notice on top of the new page in case someone decides to take offense. ST47 (talk) 00:30, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

The notice at the top of User:STBotI/WARNEDUSERS is both a personal attack and uncivil. Please reword it, thanks. Gwen Gale (talk) 00:35, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Done. ST47 (talk) 00:39, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Phrases and words such as overly sensitive users and meddling are uncivil, personal attacks on those who have commented here. Please remove the personal attacks. Gwen Gale (talk) 00:43, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, ST47, I don't understand why you're lashing out like this. —David Levy 00:56, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

STBotI using a non-existant template

STBotI seems to be tagging images with a non-existant template: {{notagr}}, for example . --Carnildo (talk) 01:03, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that this morning. I was tweaking some of the warnings last night, I think I introduced a typo, it's fixed. ST47 (talk) 01:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)