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Folken de Fanel's Edits

Folken de Fanel seems insistent on removing important German-to-English translations of the attacks here. Myself and three other users have tried to add this back, only to have Fanel engage in a long term edit war. I'm posting this here to get some consensus on the issue. If a majority of users say the edits should stay, then we need to get an admin to get Fanel to stop disrupting this page and others. 152.3.217.217 (talk) 21:22, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Buspar, please stop using various decoy IPs in order to start useless controversies, make vandalistic edits and to try to attack me. Hiding under various IPs in order to make bad edits you know would have had negative impact on your main account, won't get you anywhere. Coming back as a "ghost" in order to get your revenge against me just make you appear as a troll. You shouldn't be extending your (already consequent) history of unconstructive edits. Your ridiculous hatred for me (rules on WP are made to be respected. Sorry but it's like that) isn't worth disrupting WP.

You have used all your IPs for the 2 only articles that were not blocked/entirely modified after you lost your previous fight against me and that you wanted to reappropriate (plus a third which is in line with your obsession with piracy).
You have used each time your trademark edit summary ("Folken is a vandal"). You're even using now in this talk page the same excuse you used to revert my edits back then, "it's important".
And finally, you've used IPs with which you had already edited other articles to which you have regularly contributed with your Buspar account.

So stop pretending, please, and get over it, once and for all. This sockpuppetry has been going on for several weeks, it's time for you to stop. Misplaced Pages has rules, that you must respect. Infringing each time more of them (I remind you that sockpuppetry isn't allowed here) won't get you anywhere and certainly won't help your "fansub is good" cause. Misplaced Pages simply isn't a place where you can advocate fansubs and other illegal activities, it's like that, so stop targetting me and harassing me, because it will never change anything to the rules. I was not responsible for them, so focusing your hatred on me is pointless and a waste of time for you. Had I not been there, someone else would have reacted the same as I did.

So, just get over it. I have reverted your IP edits (and will continue to do that) because you did them using deceiving ways, and because they were driven by revenge and were unconstructive.Folken de Fanel (talk) 20:17, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

A quick checkuser by an admin would show that this IP has nothing in common with me. Next time, take such a step before you level such a serious accusation. The IP is from Duke University, which is a long ways away from where I go to school or live. So unless you're suggesting I flew down to NC for the sole purpose of "pretending" (which is so blatantly insulting that you're in clear violation of WP:NPA), you will not repeat such accusations. I've already removed your libel per normal NPA procedures. Do so again and you'll be brought before WP:ANI. This is your only warning.

I second the IP's motion: should your edit warring continue, you should be reported to an admin to be warned and/or banned for disruptive behavior. Your edits to this article and others are not constructive and have no basis in consensus, which now stands as 2 (me and the OP) to 1 (you). Buspar (talk) 07:32, 27 June 2008 (UTC

I also agree with the OP's opinions. So that's 3 to 1 against. I'll let Buspar deal with this guy's problems. 130.49.157.75 (talk) 20:51, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Please, Buspar, stop trying to use IPs to hide your identity. If you continue like that, you'll be reported. I think you played enough.Folken de Fanel (talk) 00:33, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Ah, finally you use your true identity.

Even though your usual IPs are from Pittsburg and this last one was from Duke University, I can't help but see it as highly suspicious that yet another IP comes and suddenly gets interested precisely in the 3 articles in which, just days before, you started edit warring under the guise of various anonymous IPs.

Besides, I have already noted similarities in the behavior of this IP and yours (suddenly calling me a "vandal" without any justification, arguing that this is "important" while it is not...). So please, stop pretending.

If you're are accused (whether mistakenly or not) of a 3rd act of sockpuppetry, the only person to blame for this is you, and only you. You started to act under the guise of anonymous IPs, so don't complain if the other IPs that magically appear to support you (while they had never touched these articles before) are also suspected. Had you not used IP sockpuppetry twice, you wouldn't be suspected now.

You're also not in position of accusing me of anything, since the previous 2 IPs you used can unmistakenly be linked to your account. So don't draw unnecessary attention on your case. I'm not sure the admin board will be happy to see how you've already commited 2 acts of sockpuppetry that are certains.
The 3rd, I admit, is debatable for technical reasons, but otherwise, given the context, it is highly unprobable that yet another anonymous IP that acts exactly like you wouldn't be you. Besides, the fact that you decided to magically intervene just after I spoke to the IP yesterday, is yet another element against you.

After all, I could also post with the IP of a UK university (while I'm in France) if I wanted. It's not rare to find this kind of IPs in proxy lists. So please stop trying to frighten me, and face the consequences of your acts. You've already used twice a form of sockpuppetry, don't try saying you're going to accuse me for stating it, it's only making me laugh.

So don't talk of "NPA" and don't even try to argue that it would be an "insult" to say that you would go to such length to "pretend". Because you've already pretended twice before.

For the rest, I've got nothing to add besides what I've written yesterday. You made these edits under the guise of anonymous IPs only to take your revenge for our previous quarrels. I cannot see how they could be constructive in anyway. The nature itself of your edits is illegal, since you did them using a form of sockpuppetry, which is not tolerated on WP. That's why they were reverted in the first place.
And then, I cannot see what would be the use of these edits, because first they're all unsourced, and then, they have no use, no importance, no encyclopedical relevance, they were only made in a revenge attempt.
And finally, please have the decency to stop talking about "consensus", because first you have always ignored them (I remind you everyone was against your fansub edits, you did them nonetheless), so reading "consensus" in one of your post will always make me laugh. And second, I don't think we can talk about "consensus" when the the only people that support you are yourself and your own sockpuppets.

So, just get over it. This is over. Don't try to take your revenge, it's useless, and you'll be the only one hurt in the process.
You have now commited enough policy violations, if we add sockpuppetry to your constant edit wars and disruptions of Misplaced Pages (and now, the fact that you try to alter and modify people's comment in your favor). In your own interest, you should stop that, because the only one who will be blocked will be you.Folken de Fanel (talk) 14:06, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

My oppinion, ok, i am totally confused as to what's going on here, and at the moment, i have no real side to pick with, but this is my own 2 cents... I think we, the nanoha fans, deserve to know the german -> english translations of Signums attacks... they're nice little tid-bits of info that just make everything more fun... why would you get rid of them? were they false? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ninjagal6 (talk • contribs) 03:24, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

The translations were accurate, similar to translations of Japanese names and phrases on Misplaced Pages that don't require a source so long as they're literal, which these were. Buspar (talk) 07:45, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, we need a source saying if it's accurate or not. Nothing indicates Buspar is a german user. If anyone can "translate" as he wants and without giving any guarantees...Folken de Fanel (talk) 23:04, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

aha! ok i get it now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ninjagal6 (talk • contribs) 14:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

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