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Reply to your message on my talk page

The PAL version of the PS3 have a reduced backwards compatibility because they lack the hardware necessary for hardware emulation. It has nothing to do with the fact that they are a different frame rate than the NTSC models. Please read the reference associated with that section in the article: . Thanks ARC Gritt 22:49, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale

You removed {{fairuse rationale needed}} from Image:BladeRunner PC Game (Front Cover).jpg without adding a fair use rationale. The non-free game cover template says: "To the uploader: please add a detailed fair use rationale for each use, as described on Misplaced Pages:Image description page, as well as the source of the work and copyright information". I hope you now understand why the image was tagged. Best regards, Ilse@ 02:12, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

why don't you put the rationale info yourself instead of tagging these files? you came here two weeks or something ago and your work is not constructive nor significant and seems like vandalism like if you were hoping that no rationale is added so the picture is deleted. i noticed your contributions consist of adding warning tag, what's your point? is it for revenge maybe? i noticed the fist message you received on your talk page was a tag warning. why don't you help people instead of posting tags? why are there no such rationale on Star Wars' pictures for example? it's like your are focused on Blade Runner, what for? Cliché Online 09:51, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I replied here to your message. – Ilse@ 13:46, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

So many edits in so short a time

Hi CO! I noticed that over the last day or two you've made almost 70 edits in a row to the Bladerunner page, most of them tiny, incremental changes. Is there any way you can roll your edits into bigger chunks, because with so many in a stream like that it makes it hard to see what's being done. Thanks for the work on the page, from a long time Bladerunner fan who saw it in the theater when it first came out. :) Rob Banzai 18:32, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

hehe sorry, I was into it. I'll try to calm down ^^. Cliché Online 20:54, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Original research

"for the younglings who didn't watched them, Battle Royale is a ripoff of two hollywood movies Fortress (1993) and No Escape (1994) for what it worth it should be mentioned in the article. Cliché Online 21:18, 25 June 2007 (UTC) "

Unless a newspaper or CNN comes to that conclusion too, that's Misplaced Pages:Original research, which is not permitted. WhisperToMe 15:13, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

it's just i'm smarter than CNN... just kidding. :) Cliché Online 19:07, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

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Image:Metalvsgray.jpg

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test

Cliché Online 20:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC) testb/

Replaceable fair use Image:Aircarft cemetary davis montha 2007.png

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wikipedia bug

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Bellefontaine, Ohio

Greetings! I regret to tell you that I had to undo an edit you had made to Bellefontaine, Ohio. While you are correct that several "cities" in France (actually communes; see Bellefontaine) existed under the name "Bellefontaine" prior to the establishment of the Ohio city, there is no evidence that any of these were the namesake for which Bellefontaine, Ohio is named. Quite to the contrary, the Ohio Historical Society states that the French words for "beautiful spring" were applied to this settlement to refer to actual springs. The practice of naming American settlements with French words is also not unusual; see also Detroit, Michigan, Belle Fourche, South Dakota, and Presque Isle State Park in Pennsylvania... the last of which was named by Anglophones because it resembled the natural feature for which its French name refers, just as with Bellefontaine, Ohio. -- SwissCelt 06:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Merci for the infos, i'll check this in due time. Thanks. Cliché Online 10:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

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A friendly note

Hi — I just wanted to leave you a friendly note. A number of your recent edits have been inflammatory and offensive to other users, if not incivil. Please remember to follow our talk page guidelines and stay cool and neutral when you're discussing things with other users. --Haemo (talk) 05:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

"scum" is the term used by the right wing mass media and even the president here in france. Cliché Online (talk) 12:31, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

See WP:TIGERS for why Misplaced Pages is different. --Haemo (talk) 21:34, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Japanphile

do you mind if I use

on User:jaytur1/Box. I'm having it on there until I get a reply, or you can remove it yourslf.

--Jay (talk) 12:56, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi what's up you dig this old banner? yep you can use it, go ahead. Cliché Online (talk) 18:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Cool, thanks

--Jay (talk) 11:50, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Edit warring

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on 2007 civil unrest in Villiers-le-Bel (France). Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. · jersyko talk 21:00, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

false, this is Rama and Zantastik who are removing sourced infos and removing others, i've restored the edits, why you don't post the warning in their talk page and only mine? you are not neutral and share their agenda. i will refer to a neutral administrator because you are obviously not reliable. Cliché Online (talk) 21:05, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

If you believe that is the case, discuss it at talk further. Make your arguments. If they are convincing, surely experienced editors like Rama and Zantastik will listen. Edit warring is harmful, but civil discussion is not. · jersyko talk 21:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

I also strongly suggest that you begin to address arguments instead of contributors. Your recent comments at the relevant talk page are uncivil and are flirting with being personal attacks. If you persist in edit warring or incivility, I will block you. · jersyko talk 21:07, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

that's interesting, now you'are supporting him while he trolls seeking for an escuse to block me and letting him free to retells the events. shame on you. Cliché Online (talk) 21:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

bullshit! since when telling a name is african is considered uncivil and a personal attack? Cliché Online (talk) 21:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

p.s. oh a block now, how surprising you are a son of a bitch! Cliché Online (talk) 21:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Riots in France

First of all thank you for your constructive edits to this article. I have reverted Rama's vandalism twice, and thus cannot do so again. He has violated Misplaced Pages's 3R rule (reverting the same text three times within 24 hours). He can now be blocked from Wikipeida. I don't know how to make the request. Do you? Best regards. Hadrianheugh (talk) 23:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

hi thank you for doing the dirty work, watch out dude or you're gonna end up blocked like myself. there are strong lobbies here within wikipedia. i've requested a block for this Rama and his black friends and as an answer i was the one blocked... better forget about it. things work like in the mafia out there. Cliché Online 21:35, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

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ok thank you. Cliché Online (talk) 16:11, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

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Master Chief (Halo)

No, the article doesn't belong to me, but as you have not provided any evidence to sway the arguments of those on the talk page, consensus is against you. Continuing to add back in the information could lead to a block. The burden is on you to provide reliable sources to prove the mod is notable; so far you have not. Read the relevant policies. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs 20:52, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

bullshit again i have given evidences the mod is notable, it was already talked in the discussion page and an editor agreed the paragraph was ok. the consensus is actually against you but you seems to believe the article belongs to you removing paragraphs you don't like despite reliable sources demonstrating the mod thing is huge and at least relevant. so continuing to remove the information could lead to a block. Cliché Online (talk) 09:20, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I have replied to you on the article talk page. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs 13:43, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Macross Frontier promo teaser...

Greeitings, Cliché Online. I'm wondering if you've found other Macross Frontier wallpaper / background / promo teaser? I've been thinking about the one at http://www.macrossf.com/image/top/img_main.jpg as it's got the logo as well. Any comment? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Howardchu (talk • contribs) 03:02, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

hi, actually i was thinking about replacing the now obsolete promo poster by the cover of the japanese blu-ray vol.1. didn't made it since i'm currently editing other articles. Cliché Online (talk) 11:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I've thought about the DVD / BD cover as well. Anyway, I'll leave it as status quote for now. (Howardchu (talk) 04:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC))

Cliché Online, I've just put up the DVD / BD cover of the Volume 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Macross_Frontier_BD_Vol_2.jpg I'm sure you'll also approve it. If not, please change it as you see fits. (Howardchu (talk) 04:54, 30 June 2008 (UTC))

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Resolution Updates

Hello. I appreciate what you're doing, updating all games articles with HD resolutions, but please keep an eye open for existing resolution sections, such as Haze (video game), as these sometimes describe how a game actually runs at a lower resolution (576p in Haze's case) - you put in that it runs at 720p, which is untrue. Thanks! Fin©™ 09:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

the game actually runs in 1280x720p@60hz on hdtvs not in sd resolution (as of halo 3). as you can see. don't let the forum hype fools you. is it really working on 576p on your tv? Cliché Online (talk) 09:51, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

by the way seems you have the xbox, how do you know the correct resolution for a ps3 game? Cliché Online (talk) 10:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I was going by this article, which I think it better than anecdotal evidence. Also, just because I play Xbox Live doesn't mean I don't have a PS3. Thanks! Fin©™ 10:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

As an aside, I think you should reference when you state a game runs in 1080p (such as here), anecdotal evidence isn't good enough (especially after your assertion of Haze). Oh, and I'm not sure about this, but is it a good idea to add Dual Shock 3 to games that don't explicitly support the rumble (though I'm not too sure if Lair does or doesn't)? Maybe it is, I don't know. Thanks! Fin©™ 10:23, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

i know about the 576p upscale stuff the thing is the game does not run in 576p but in 720p so who cares except haters and fanboys? since you have edited the ninja gaiden 2 and halo articles why don't you have corrected the so called "native resolution" which is SD in both games (look)? ninja gaiden sigma is not 720p but 1080p that's why i have corrected the article. when games are noted as 1080p but are 720p i did the same, it doesn't matter as long as it is the truth. i told you my tv keep the original resolution of ps3 games. show me pictures of your tv to compare the results if you think there's a problem. about sixaxis vs dual shock i put dual shock in the input since sixaxis are discontinued and dual shock have built-in sixaxis as you know (or not). so tell me how does haze run on your tv? is it 576p or 720p? Cliché Online (talk) 10:59, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I've corrected the Halo 3 article, I didn't realise it was incorrect. Forums aren't a reliable source, so I can't really change the Ninja Gaiden one based on it. If you have one, feel free to change it. You can't just say "ninja gaiden is not 720p but 1080p", you have to back it up - I'll just repeat again, anecdotal evidence is not a reliable source. Fair enough about Dual Shock 3/Sixaxis, I knew DS3 included it, I was just making sure that was your logic. I don't own Haze, but even if I did, it would output in 720p, but it would be upscaled from 576p. Just like Halo is upscaled to 1080p, or whatever. If you look at the GTA 4 article, you'll see the PS3 resolution is listed as 640p - it doesn't output in 640p, it's upscaled from that to 720 etc. Thanks! Fin©™ 11:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

who cares about these resolutions? what cares is the actual output (without upscale) is it? my ps3 cannot output 576p since it is ntsc so it outputs 480p. 576 is the PAL aspect wich is incompatible with the NTSC 480. how can haze be displayed on non-576p tvs please? if my tv was upscaling all games would be 1080p but they just aren't so... haze is 720p, not 576p. if it was upscaled it would be 1080p. >> haze is in 720p.

Cliché Online (talk) 11:36, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

You're completely missing the point. The source code of Haze can be 576p, but the game itself can be programmed to automatically output in 720p. Saying it does so does not mean the source is 720p. Articles should include the base resolution, from the actual game source. That source originally comes from a forum, and is therefore unreliable - there's a few articles I think you should read - the wikipedia article on what constitutes a reliable source, what constitutes a verifiable source and the article on video scaling. Thanks! Fin©™ 11:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

What I'm trying to say is that the source code of Haze defines it as 576p. The source of Halo defines it as 640p. This does not mean they output in these resolutions, it means these are the original resolutions, what would be displayed without scaling. Like you say, NTSC tvs can not support 576p, I don't know if any tvs support 640p, and so, they are upscaled to 720p as a default. Just because they display in 720p does not mean it is the original, unscaled, resolution. Thanks! Fin©™ 11:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

yes some tv outputs 640p (i'll post you an ad i saw today - EDIT: no this a 640x480 TV not a 640). as long as it doesn't concern the actual output i don't think the native resolution is a relevant info then but should be replaced by aspect ratio or something. Cliché Online (talk) 11:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

hey did you read it? this is not a random forum but a haze developer talking on an official Q&A. look again. haze developer talking: "From some other comments I read, I wanted to clarify that the game runs at 720p resolution." Cliché Online (talk) 12:00, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Look, you don't understand. Running at and upscaled to are the same thing. For a developer to say "it runs at 720p", that doesn't mean it runs unscaled at 720p. In fact, the developer is correct - from the Eurogamer article: "He revealed the resolution as 576p and not 720p, which leaves the PS3 with the task of upscaling the image.". Convention (GTA IV, Halo 3) is to include the original resolutions, if they're lower than 720p. Hence, Haze should include 576p, as this is the original, unscaled resolution. Oh, and I missed the original post, I just read the talk playstation one you gave, which implied it was a forum. Thanks! Fin©™ 12:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, I'm unaware of the PS3 situation, but all games on 360 are upscaled to 1080p, if that's the base resolution selected. Thanks! Fin©™ 12:22, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

why the game is not directly upscaled to 1080p instead of 720p (tv keep 720p and don't upscale it to full hd)? by the way we don't know the native resolution for all games but a few of them (halo3, ninja gaiden 2, haze etc.) so the native resolution info is irrelevant. ps3 games boxes mention the compatible resolutions somehow (NTSC, 480p, 720p, 1080p or PAL, 576p, 720) which is a relevant info to the wikipedia readers because they know how will it be actually displayed. who cares about the game code's display (576p, 640p) that no one will see (due to 720p upscale)? the native resolution links to the display aspects, i think we should keep using the "NTSC, 480p, 720p, 1080p" instead of 640p. what do you think? Cliché Online (talk) 12:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

i knew it you don't have a ps3 but an xbox, haha thats ok. well things are different on the ps3 it keep the "original" output (ie 720 not 1080). Cliché Online (talk) 12:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

This is the last time I'm going to post here, I'm sick of arguing with you, I'm getting nowhere and you're just becoming uncivil (with your accusation of sockpuppetry). Anyway, yet again, please read the wikipedia article on sources; video scaling; native resolution and maybe display resolution. The native resolution of Haze is 576p, but it runs at (and is upscaled to) 720p. The resolution field in the videogame infobox expands to "Native resolution", so 576p should be the one used. Thanks! Fin©™ 16:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

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are you kidding why me? this guy personally attacked me calling me hypocrital and stuff. so why posting this warning to me and let him go? Cliché Online (talk) 07:13, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Because you have been very consistently calling other editors (not just Falcon) "idiots" and such - you did it to me without any provocation, and your talk page history above shows that you have also been rude to other editors in the past who have given you warnings. (Calling a blocking admin an asshole is not a good way to endear yourself to the community - if you get blocked for incivility again, it will be for a longer period of time, and it will be far less likely that your block will be overturned.)

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fuck you animal! remember this shit yourself, who do you think you are coming here with warnings and talking about "being a dick". the other editors you are defending are claiming ownership over the article and are agenda pushing and they attacked me in the first place. Cliché Online (talk) 13:57, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Cliche, this is your last warning. If you don't want to be blocked again, clean up your act. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs 14:49, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

hey! look who's comin', another xbox fanboy david fuch. how did you came here? are you reading my edit log as do SeanMoney aka Falcon9x5? Cliché Online (talk) 16:06, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

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it has been fixed mister bot, the picture was removed by an idiot who claims ownership over ps3 articles while he is a ps3 hater and an xbox fanboy. Cliché Online (talk) 13:58, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

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So he did the same thing you did (by cussing and such) yet gets blocked...Ghost109 (talk) 00:43, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

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Killzone 2/MGS4

Hello again. First of all, the comparison between Killzone 2's 1080i and Resistance/Gears is irrelevant. They all run at 1080i, there's no need to point that out in the article unless there's been coverage of Killzone 2's initial 720p resolution. There's no reason to make comparisons - it's the same as saying "Killzone 2 runs on PS3, like it's competitor Resistance 2" - it adds nothing to the article, if people want to know the resolutions of other games they can go to the respective pages. Secondly, saying something "is" (eg MGS4's native res is 1080p) is not enough. You have to back it up with a reliable, verifiable source. Please read the source articles I've just linked to and don't change MGS4's native res to 1080p unless you can support it. Just to reiterate: Anecdotal evidence is not a reliable source. Thanks! Fin©™ 19:09, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

stop your bullshit you don't have the ps3 nor mgs4 nor killzone 2 and not even a full hd 1080p (but a mere hd ready tv), i have both you don't, i don't have to waste my time with xbox fankids like you. Cliché Online (talk) 19:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

I've brought up this matter on the WP:VG talk page. Thanks! Fin©™ 20:50, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. See Template:Infobox_VG#Syntax_guide for rationale in changing Sixaxis etc to "Gamepad" - to quote directly: Use generic names...Do not use brand names for devices. Thanks for pointing out about Gears 2 and Halo 3, I've updated them both. Thanks! Fin©™ 19:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

This is my final attempt to explain what a verifiable source is.

The back of the box is not a WP:V source.

What your TV displays is not a WP:V source.

What you say is not a WP:V source.

"The threshold for inclusion in Misplaced Pages is verifiability, not truth"

"Articles should rely on reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy."

Unless you can provide exactly that (a third-party published source that's known to be accurate) do not add back 1080p to MGS4.

Thanks! Fin©™ 14:10, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I have 2 new sources to bring on the table here and there, YOU HAVE NONE. do no change the 1080p fact to your 720p false information unless you have a third party source, you have brought nothing by the way. Cliché Online (talk) 14:29, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

What did I just say? The back of the box is not a WP:V source. A third-party published source with a reputation for fact-checking. Thanks! Fin©™ 14:36, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

you just said bullshit like usual! where's your third party for 720p? here's one that contradicts you, can you read english maybe? it says 1080p look! Cliché Online (talk) 14:51, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Metal Gear Solid 4. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Thanks! Fin©™ 14:59, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

it seems that is you who id engaged in a n edit war, by adding bullshit to an article you don't know nothing about! what will be your next article? a book you haven't read i imagine... :D poor boy !! Cliché Online (talk) 15:03, 4 January 2009 (UTC)