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i am just posting here to ask premission to use your template for your talk page... i like it lots but i thought i would ask you 1st before i used it just in case you do not want me to use it. | i am just posting here to ask premission to use your template for your talk page... i like it lots but i thought i would ask you 1st before i used it just in case you do not want me to use it. | ||
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==What does this mean?== | |||
You write on my RfC: "I have suggested with Tony that he propose new policy changes to CSD to allow the things he wants to delete outside of policy. He has dismissed this idea and prefers to delete because he can and thinks his opinion is sufficient to override policy." | |||
I have no idea what you mean here. Can you recall when you asked me to do this, and in what context? --]] 22:15, 26 October 2005 (UTC) |
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Regarding Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/Democratic IdealsI've withdrawn my vote and replaced it with No vote. My original vote was probably misinformed, but I have enough questions about the original VfD and not enough time anymore to really look into it, so I might as well just remove myself from the original VfU. If I happen to scrounge up more time these next few days to look into it, I might just change my vote, but not for now. Thanks for your message! --Deathphoenix 20:11, 2 August 2005 (UTC) Votes on Misplaced Pages:Votes for deletion/Democratic IdealsYou are correct, there are 6 delete votes listed. I think i missed the nominators vote. However I think that User:Stirling Newberry pretty much has to be read as a keep vot, making this 6D to 4K, for what that is worth. You may quote me. DES 20:17, 2 August 2005 (UTC) Thanks for pointing out my counting. I've done a more careful recount, and halfway-revised my vote. Given the closeness of the decision to two-thirds coupled with a rewrite, I think it should return to VfD in its present form (which implies an undeletion). -Splash 03:32, 3 August 2005 (UTC) you posted a message to me?24.147.97.230 What do you want? 24.147.97.230 17:24, 6 August 2005 (UTC) Acne site articlesSorry about the links, I thought it was allowed. I won't pplace them anymore, Warm regards, Michael We'll surrender if you take Celine Dion backThanks for the words of support and the laugh! Cheers, DoubleBlue (Talk) 22:45, 9 August 2005 (UTC) Change to CSD A7Hi there. I just reverted your addition of the "or group" words to WP:CSD A7. The recent poll was quite specific and the proposal only applied to real people. There were no fewer than 3 bands (which is what I suppose you mean) propsals, each of which failed, unfortunately. Best to take changes to CSDs to the talk page first. -Splash 01:19, 11 August 2005 (UTC) Please visit Misplaced Pages talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/3-C where a future proposal to deal with non-notable bands is under intermittant discusion. DES 12:57, 11 August 2005 (UTC) Thanks for the note. I thought it would clarify but didn't recall that the votes were so seperate and specific. - Tεxτurε 14:32, 11 August 2005 (UTC) I have added my vote to Misplaced Pages talk:Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/3-C - Tεxτurε 14:36, 11 August 2005 (UTC) I guess I wasn't quite clear. Proposal 3-C was voted down. Additional votes are not being collected at this time. Several people are using the talk page for the old proposal to try to polish a new proposal that might get support in the future. At the moment, what is needed there is discussion, rather than votes -- tell us if our current ideas seem like good ones to you, and if not, what you think might be improved about them. When and if people are ready to propose this formally again, it will probably be moved to a new page with a name not connected to the failed proposal. DES 15:50, 11 August 2005 (UTC) Func's RfA :)Texture, aka TANSTAAFL, thank you for supporting my adminship! Your support meant alot to me, very much appreciated! :) Please never hesitate to let me know if you have concerns with any administrative action I may make. Func( t, c, e, ) 19:12, 11 August 2005 (UTC) sorryHi, im sorry for that. I will never do this again! Requesting assistance in handling disruptive behavior.I would greatly appreciate if you look into the mess created in the article Rohingya. This is quite an interesting issue; a few months ago, I removed the copyvio and then organized the article into sections and cleaned up the links. For some reason, several anon editors in the block 212.138.47.* seem to take offence at my "touching" "their" article, and started vandalizing my user/talk pages. Some of these vandals were blocked by other admins. Last week, these vandals created several sockpuppet accounts, including Antirajib (talk · contribs). You can see from the account name what its purpose was. The user vandalized my user/talk pages besides leaving abusive comments. The user was blocked immediately. Yesterday and today, there has been a parade of sockpuppets all directed at either launching personal attacks, or avoiding 3RR. You can find several incoherent rants in Talk:Rohingya, my talk (User talk:Ragib and Mel's talk User talk:Mel Etitis. The language constructs and the irrational attitude ("how-dare-I-touch-their-article-being-a-Bengali" etc) points out a single user behind all these. I find the following accounts as sockpuppets of the same vandal from the ip block 212.138.47.*, especially (212.138.47.13/14/15/16/17/18/21).
I urge everyone to take a look at the page history, http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Rohingya&curid=1918632&action=history . This is not even a dispute over content! I have not added or deleted any content other than the initial copyvio. I simply organized the article with sections, and cleaned up the external links. One of the links point to a blog, which the vandals ferociously object to as being termed a blog. I've gotten literally tired of the abuse these vandals launched on me. The level of racial and personal abuse is quite hard to take. Since it would be a conflict of interest in my part to take actions against these vandals, I would request you to look into this issue and decide. Thanks a lot. --Ragib 13:27, 12 August 2005 (UTC) BureaucratI think the project would be better served by additional bureaucrats and I'd like to suggest that you'd be perfect for the job. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 06:11, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
Many ThanksThanks for supporting my RFA. It couldn't have happened without your effort. FeloniousMonk 17:47, 15 August 2005 (UTC) NSKThank you. I was really asking NSK to explain his own behavior, which makes no sense. I assumed that he was violating his own copyright, or gaming a system, or spamming. I will probably sign the RfC in 24 to 48 hours. It is just very strange, even as strange behavior on Misplaced Pages goes. Robert McClenon 17:59, 15 August 2005 (UTC) RevertingHello. Your revert deleted my link to User:Neolux, my IDRIVE notice and my POV-check notice. I have now made these edits again, since I see nothing wrong with them (the page is listed at the relevant Misplaced Pages project pages), and it is not required to get support in talk page in order to add IDRIVE and POV-Check notices, but if I am wrong please give me links to Misplaced Pages policy. I won't add the Criticism section again until I get support from other users. Wikinerd 03:56, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
CoS page may be needing some help over the next few days. Again?Check out the CoS discussion page for details. Scott P. 03:16, August 17, 2005 (UTC) VfUI won't be re-deleting any articles which are created after valid deletions any more. Let the people who keep making up the rules as they go along deal with it. Zoe 04:16, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
HelloHello, person I've never talked to.
Re-closing an improperly closed VfD.Hi. I was mistaken; I think I was thinking of the events surrounding Historical persecution by Jews, when Neutrality re-closed as "delete" an article that Sjakkalle had closed as "keep". Tony commented on that debate, but opposed the "re-close." So my bad. Nandesuka 15:08, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
Barbara Schwarz and 3RRPlease take a look at the recent edits by 195.3.113.139 (talk · contribs), 195.3.113.141 (talk · contribs), 195.3.113.142 (talk · contribs), 195.3.113.152 (talk · contribs), and 195.3.113.154 (talk · contribs); all of these IP addresses appear to be the same person. How would you suggest handling this situation? Hall Monitor 17:54, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
VFU/VFD debaclePlease see my and Rossami's talk page and give your comment. Radiant_>|< 14:44, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
Vfd troubleTony Sidaway (talk · contribs) continues to behave strangely with respect to VFD closings - in particular, relisting any discussion with less than five votes even if they all vote the same (e.g. here), thus unilaterally creating a quorum policy, except when he already agrees with the outcome e.g. here; closing 3del/3redir results as "keep"; and closing VFDs as keep when he in fact already merged or redirected the article. I believe this to be misleading at best, WP:POINT at worst. Any suggestions on how to deal with this? Radiant_>|< 23:06, August 27, 2005 (UTC) Iraqi constitutionNice work! –Hajor 23:02, 29 August 2005 (UTC) Thanks for the message, and for the thumbs-up. On reflection, you're probably right about not editing the AP's translation, even though (see the links I added at the bottom of the article) is does appear to be a rush-job and not terribly faithful. Let's hope another, better translation emerges at a later date -- hopefully before Oct 15. Pictures? I'll keep my eyes open. Something PD on some .gov site, perhaps? Cheers, –Hajor 20:28, 30 August 2005 (UTC) NumbersIt's helpful for navigation, and all the LETTER (A,B,C,...) articles have similar links. We do not have 0 (glyph) or 0 (numeral), so the most appropriate place to link it is at 0 (number). As it is undergoing AfD, it is not currently deleted, so why are you removing the link? You should wait for it to be deleted first. 132.205.3.20 21:20, 31 August 2005 (UTC) In case no one noticed, 0...9 are not just numbers, or numerals, they're also general use symbols. The pages lack any such knowledge. 132.205.3.20 21:23, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Removal of contested Zarius' voteI think you probably shouldn't have done that. There does exist a Zarius and it would be easy enough to ask him if he cast the vote. He's been a member for yonks but seldom seems to log in any more. In any case it's bad form to deliberately tamper with any user's vote--technically it can be a blockable offense if engaged in egregiously. It is fairly common for editors who don't log in to sign themselves in votes with their logged in username. The closing sysop can go through the history examining the provenance of every single vote, have often done so in close or contentious votes. It's regarded as okay to add a note to dodgy votes like this "non-logged in user giving unverified signature" or something like this. Would you agree to revert your removal and instead add a not to that effect? --Tony Sidaway 22:36, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Seems fair enough, though I'd be happier if you didn't remove votes. If you do it, and everybody knows you and trusts you, then others less scrupulous or simply less experienced could feel that it's okay to remove votes. --Tony Sidaway 14:58, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Logged outFYI, I have on a number of occasions when doing a long edit or retriving links from other pages (or just gettign up for a steach) been auto-logged-out, and only discovered this after clicking save and seeing that my four tildas expanded to an IP instead of my user name. It is easy for this to happen. DES 15:59, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
AfD on listsWell, I wasn't intending on adding comments there. Someone added a new entry, and when I pressed save, the whole transclusion thing blew up in my face, as it is ought to do sometimes. Instead of saving it on the transcluded subpage it got tacked onto the primary page beneath the new entry. You should have noted that I cleaned up my mess before you made your comment. 132.205.3.20 18:31, 1 September 2005 (UTC) Fake vote for Apocolypse PoohYou were right, that vote wasn't made by me - I've been around for a while, but very on and off over the years. Thanks for the note. Regards, Zarius 08:53, 7 September 2005 (UTC) Edit war + vandalism = Barbara SchwarzThis article is getting out of hand - and I can't even count the number of violations that have cropped up on the talk page alone. Things have been said about User:Vivaldi and especially User:Tilman that may open WP up to a charge of libel if they are left up, not to mention that the perpetrators seem to be engaged in a one-page smear campaign against Misplaced Pages itself. We need HELP. 206.114.20.121 18:39, 8 September 2005 (UTC) Yes please help by voting to remove the Barbara Schwarz article. Tilman insists on entering claims which have not been attributed to reliable sources and he has a past history of personally "attacking" Barbara on USENET for the last several years. --AI 21:52, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
I see two problems with Barbara. First, she often dumps huge texts, like the one you moved today (thank you). These texts are often irrelevant to the dispute. Second, she doesn't log in, and usually doesn't sign her articles, which makes it confusing. I know that one doesn't have to log in, to encourage new users to contribute. But with Barbara this brings chaos. Tilman 22:14, 14 September 2005 (UTC)Tilman Also, you should look at Tilman's history. He can also be a problem and has removed comments by others and does not apply NPOV as his edits to this article are mainly to make Barbara look crazy. --AI 02:47, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
I am a contributing editor of Misplaced PagesHello, I am a contributing editor of the Misplaced Pages Open Source Project. I am attempting to add one valuable resource under one topic. I am adding a "gambling directory" in a category that does not have one. Misplaced Pages Rules: (OK to add: Web directories: When deemed appropriate by those contributing to an article on Misplaced Pages, a link to one web directory listing can be added, with preference to open directories (if two are comparable and only one is open). If it is deemed that the nuetral information that I add is "spam" or "commercial" in nature. Then I will contribute in another way. I will remove blatant commercial links from other categories. Misplaced Pages Rules: 1. BE BOLD in updating pages. Go ahead, it's a wiki! 2. Ignore all rules, including this one. For example, the category online casino has a section for Blacklisted Casinos. Having this section that only points to commercial sites, without offering an area for white listed casinos, does not convey a NPOV (rule #3). Another example is the category Bet Exchanges. This category is loaded with mostly commercial links to various Bet Exchanges. If the one relevent nuetral link that I am trying to add in the category "gambling" is considered spam or commercial in nature. I feel it is my duty to remove other spam or commercial links as a contributing wikipedia editor. Sincerely, Trail Guide
Practice what you preachHello, The discussion board, for the article "gambling", has not had a post in it since June of 2004 (over one year). Exactly how does this consensus discussion take place? What do you mean "numerous articles you have added it to"? I am trying to add one relevant nuetral link to one article. It was removed within hours of it's original posting. Please describe for me why you think my link "Gambling Directory," which leads to an open directory that anyone can post their gambling related site in, is SPAM or commercial in nature, while you allow the various links I mentioned in my last message. Have you even visited the link I posted? What consensus was taken to remove the link I added? There have been exactly two visitors from wikipedia.org this entire month, one of which was me testing the link. So, what consensus was taken to determine that the link I added should be removed? Having one visitor from wikipedia.org, but 5 or 6 people making a consensus to remove an edit, is a much more serious violation of the 3RR rule. "Using sockpuppets (multiple accounts)is not a legitimate way to avoid this limit, and the policy specifically does not apply to groups." Here is what I suggest to you. Please try to obey all the rules of Misplaced Pages and not the ones that only agree with your action. Sincerely, Trial Guide
3RRHi! Don't take my comment on Talk:Gambling as a criticism, I am happy that you keep removing the spam. But as I read the 3RR, you may only make 3 reversions on a single article per 24h period. It doesn't matter whether you revert one editor or multiple, or whether you revert different parts of the article. Actually, by the other measure User:Trail Guide wouldn't be in serious violation of the 3RR since he has reverted me one time, you 4 times and Ahorsteimer 3 times. Rasmus (talk) 22:26, 12 September 2005 (UTC) The scope of VfUConsidering the Harry Potter trolling VfU discussion and several recent ones, it's time we revived the discussion on Misplaced Pages talk:Votes for undeletion#The scope of VfU and dealt with the question directly. You were involved in the original discussion and your remarks on this VfU suggested you might nevertheless want to chip in, so I thought I'd let you know. We'd got about as far as simplifying the immediately preceding discussion and then things sort of stalled. Anyway, I've started a new section on that Talk: page. -Splash 21:50, 13 September 2005 (UTC) rfc policyThis text you removed isn't changing policy in anyway, it is reporting what it currently is. How is consensus needed to report the facts of policy? FuelWagon 22:44, 15 September 2005 (UTC) TLAsA proposal has been made at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves to move TLAs from AAA to DZZ and other related pages to Misplaced Pages namespace. Please visit Talk:TLAs from AAA to DZZ for the related discussion. -- Francs2000 | Talk File:Uk flag large.png 00:44, 16 September 2005 (UTC) Recent VfU changesPlease see Misplaced Pages talk:Votes for undeletion#"Purpose of the page" section and the history of Misplaced Pages:Votes for undeletion. I would appreicviate more people being involved in this matter. DES 16:22, 16 September 2005 (UTC) re: XixaxWell, we're supposed to be discussing the facts and evidence of the article, not "voting". But yes, pending overwhelming evidence to the contrary, my opinion is currently that the article should be deleted. Rossami (talk) 03:08, 20 September 2005 (UTC) see message ... i'm posting concerning the removal of an external link in Rick Barry section CreditThanks, Texture. I try to be honest mainly for selfish reasons: dishonesty clutters the mind. Marsden 15:39, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Jayjg enforcementTexture -- It may well be fruitless to have Jayjg blocked; as you note, there is no lack of people to stand in for him. However, I think Jayjg and company are doing something very dishonest: they are re-writing history. See this for my comments on that matter. It may be that, within the rules of Misplaced Pages, they cannot be stopped. But this, in my opinion, is not sufficient reason not to try to stop them. It is, quite simply, the right thing to do. I will, as you note, probably fail in this. When that happens, I will wash my hands of Misplaced Pages for ever and go on. But I think Misplaced Pages is a good idea, and I would dislike deciding that it is, ultimately, a failed enterprise. And, getting Jayjg blocked would at least be a small victory, which might keep the spark alive that one day will lead to the right thing finally happening. Jayjg has cast many aspersions at other users, many related to their rule-violation statuses. It would be a nice, if small, splash to leave in the history of Misplaced Pages to note that this is in many respects the pot calling the kettle black. Maybe one day the remote ripples from that splash will meet up with ripples from elsewhere and form a wave. Plus, he deserves it. He has, in my opinion, violated the terms of the remedies, and I have never seen him hesitate to enforce rule violations on anyone else, and even to make veiled threats related to violation hearings. Your comments on developing a compromise are spot on, but I've already attempted that. I assert to you that I am trying to do the right thing; care to lend a hand? Marsden 16:12, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
Stochastic IntegralTexture, I'd like to delay responding to you on the Stochastic Integral article until I find out what action is taken regarding Jayjg. Thanks. Marsden 17:25, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
"ArbCom" decisionTexture, here is the message I received from Jayjg regarding this matter:
I wash my hands. Marsden 18:37, 20 September 2005 (UTC) Cutco ArticleI know you're busy but I was hoping to get your help. I am dealing with an anon user on the Cutco page who insists on a NPOV tag when no one is stopping him/her from making edits (just as long as they're cited) and no one is discussing anything (there just isn't a problem). I think the user just didn't like my one revert and is retaliating for not getting his/her way the first time around. I've already been accused of being a Cutco salesperson! LOL Could you take a look at the talk page and let me know if I'm the wrong one and how you would handle this situation? Anything you can add to the discussion would also be helpful. I just can't figure out what this person's deal is and I don't think that he/she is using the tag properly and want to take it off. Thanks for your help.Gator1 18:38, 21 September 2005 (UTC) You are so the MAN/WOMAN!!! Thanks for the help, it is greatly appreciated. Let ME know if I can ever do anything for YOU. :) Gator1 19:53, 21 September 2005 (UTC) Check out this nice (unsigned) response from the anon user. Starsts out OK, then gets ugly and very uncivil. I'll warn, but I think a short time out to cool off is appropriate here, but you know better: Look, I'm sorry I hadn't added any reference material, although later on I did provide a link and the NPOV tag was still disputed. Overall, I feel as if I've been greatly bullied, mocked, and made to look like an idiot.
Nice huh?lol Gator1 12:34, 22 September 2005 (UTC) I requested a block and Shane denied it. You cna see his response. Here's what I said to him on his talk page: I respect your decision, but he only edits a little bit every day and then comes back every 24 hours, so he'll be back 24 hours from his last edit and make more threats. I will respect your decision, but just wanted you to know that.Gator1 14:47, 22 September 2005 (UTC) Tht's hi spattern, once every 24 hours. So he'll ocme back and do it again. I'm sure of it, because he thinks there's nothing wrong with it. Anyway, just would love to have your opinion on this and am worried about having a vandal coming after me. I don't think I did anything wrong. Do you?Gator1 14:55, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm going to jus ignore him that best I can. I have no desire to pick a fight. I'll report him again if he keeps it up, though. Thanks again, you've been a great help.Gator1 15:05, 22 September 2005 (UTC) RagdollI need your expertise again...sorry :( On the page it seems that someone has deleted the picture that used to be the main pic for the article. I have my suspicions (it happened right when someone wanted to replace it with another) but is there anyway you could take a look at this and maybe figure out what happened to it, who did it and why? I have no clue what to do in this area. It just seems fishy! Thanks!Gator1 20:52, 22 September 2005 (UTC) Nevermind, figured it out. Thanks.Gator1 21:11, 22 September 2005 (UTC) Anon userThe "Aiur" reference is from the old computer game (maybe new) called Starcraft. Played it a lot when I was in college. I actually giggled when I saw it. Sorry about the test4, I just didn't like seeing that happen to you, you're agood apple, and I got carried away. Thanks for keeping me on the straight and narrow.Gator1 23:23, 22 September 2005 (UTC) John KerryHello Texture, thanks for the message on my talk page. I did not know about John Kerry's Jewish heritage. I definitely think that this information should find its way into the article. However, I still question applyin the Jewish Category tag. While it would be accurate in a sense, it is also misleading in a sense. I would wager that most readers would understand the tag to be referring to a religious affiliation and practice. What about the creation of a "Jewish (Ethnic)" or "Jewish Heritage" category, instead? Johntex\ 21:32, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
I received a message from you about "commercial speech" in the bet exhange entry I expanded upon. Clearly the current 'bet exchange' listing is largely betfair propaganda (about liquidity favoring betfair, etc), and it is simply a necessary factual extension of the current bet exchange entry to discuss the only player in the US bet exchange market with a legal offering (BetBug). Happy to discuss further, but if you're monitoring commercial speech, either delete the betfair entries or allow BetBug if you wish to remain unbiased!! Removal of Chinese CommentaryI see that you've edited the page on Ward so that the Chinese Wiki contributor's negative comments about the man are no longer there. I think that it should be reverted, simply because he was expressing the prevalent view of Ward in China, and had actually at one point deleted my "western" summary of Ward with his own. Having both a Western and a Chinese perspective provides insight into how the two cultures separately view the man and his legacy, and if nothing else, forestalls some offended Chinese person from deleting the current summary, which is Western in perspective. If you don't revert it, I will plan to do so, not because I agree with the Chinese view, but because it is value to see it and understand it, whether it comes from a "citable source" or not.
Our recent discussionI'm very glad we were able to remain civil and respectful through the entire discussion, and never considered us to be anything other than friends discussing an issue. As you can tell, I'm very strong in my belief of "assume good faith" and prefer that everyone remains exceptionally courteous at all times. "Courtesy in the face of any insult" is a personal goal, even as I show the malevolents the door. When people post unsolicited reminders of what not to do, especially where instructions are being followed to the letter, it strikes me as mildly counter to both AGF and courtesy. It is not necessary or desirable to set up any part of Misplaced Pages as a nanny state, so I will sometimes make comments that express that opinion. Now, for the benefit of any third party readers, Texture did not offend my sense of courtesy, did not violate "assume good faith" nor did he attempt impose a nanny state. We had a discussion of the relative merits of unsolicited reminders of policy, and I wanted to enforce our good relationship with a message here. Unfocused 22:15, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
I am not sure if the discussion includes me or not. But, Texture, I owe you a thanks for explaining my actions better than I did. -Splash 22:21, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Gosh. Coulda fooled me. I was glad when
Mechanics of Deletion ReviewHi. You were involved in the discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Votes for undeletion#The scope of VfU which looked to establish a Deletion Review process in place of VfU. There is now a discussion about how we might construct the mechanics of such a process. The current proposal suggests that debates be relisted on AfD if there is a majority of editors wanting to overturn the debate (usually on procedural grounds) and that the alternative result be implemented if it is supported by three-quarters of editors. Please call by Misplaced Pages talk:Votes for undeletion/Deletion review proposal when you can to discuss. Thanks, and apologies for pinging your talk page again! -Splash 02:01, 4 October 2005 (UTC) Systemwars.comI have to say that I agree with you here. Tony had no business undeleting an article except by VfU. However, I don't currently have the time to enter into a long discussion about this, and would prefer to do no more than register my opposition to completely ignoring policy. I understand that Tony acted in good faith, but don't ] 16:12, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay in responding, I was on a brief wiki-break. I think the undeletion was against policy, and am concerned about it, but it appears to be fixed now. Jayjg 15:38, 6 October 2005 (UTC) VFU comment on Seduction CommHey there Texture. I seem to have rubbed you the wrong way, which I'm sorry about. Although I think I understand the source of the problem, and I think we're about this || close to agreement, I may be wrong, and I want to listen and try to understand exactly where you believe I may have been mistaken. Thanks! encephalon 20:48, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
I think we do agree. (mostly - at least on the imporant details) - Tεxτurε 00:07, 6 October 2005 (UTC) The Sexy Sluts thank you for your explanationThanks Texture, Is there any way we can post our band without it seeming like "vanity" or "spam"? -The Sexy Sluts
BandsYou mentioned having a band who's not in Misplaced Pages. Mine isn't either (and I'm not suggesting it should be). But, I wonder you'd find User:Friday/Bands#List of Wikipedians... amusing. Friday (talk) 19:22, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Why was 'opwtn' deleted?Post was factual and accurate. What reason was there to remove this?
Your query on my talk page...I thought it was pretty lame. But it looks like it was resolved correctly, last time i checked. Nandesuka 23:55, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Your user pageI don't remember why, but I was looking at your userpage. The blue dotted box overlaps the DYK text completely, so that the two sets of text are munged together. I'd {{sofixit}} if my HTML wasn't so very rusty. If it helps, I'm using Firefox 1.0.7 on WinXP Pro. -Splash 19:28, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
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Inappropriate closure(copied from Nichalp's talk page) Do you feel it is appropriate for you to vote then close Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Balagangadhara? All but a single anon vote were to delete and you feel that you can vote then close as no consensus? How do you feel you can do this without obvious conflict of interest? - Tεxτurε 14:49, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
Mmmmmm. That closure does need explaining, particularly the choice to go with a keep rather than a no consensus. I guess for now we should wait for Nichalp to reply. I don't generally like admins closing divided debates in which they are clearly partisan. This could almost be a test case for deletion review, which I shall give another push to. However, with the website link removed and all that ghastly original research (it's far more than an overview of a book, which might be ok to an extent) and obvious publicity removed, I'd expect the article to make it alive through another AfD since he is director of a research centre at a Uni and has published a book. Depending on Nichalp's response, I suppose there would be nothing at all wrong with a rapid renomination in this case, given the manner of the closure. -Splash 16:29, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
sounds like a great idea. I think we should move into the final stages, Splash. encephalon 17:48, 11 October 2005 (UTC) WP:VFDHi Texture: Assume good faith. I was surprised to see the tone of your post on my page, which struck me as rather aggressive. Perhaps you could be a little more polite in the future? Well, AFD is not my comfort zone, and well, that day I may have had on off day since I had a really busy week. I stand by what I have done, in retrospective, as you rightly pointed out however, it was "conflict of interest" on my part. I apologise for this error. My actions on that day were as follows. The article was nominated on 28 September. As per the AFD convention, the a desision on deleting or preserving the article usually takes place after five days. I took the decision on 8 October, that's 10 days after it was nominated by you and double the normal process time. Well, IP votes are allowed, there's nothing barring them from voting in the process if made in good faith, and I believe it was made in good faith. I did do a google search on him and it threw up quite a lot of results. 3:2 is not really a decisive vote count after 10 days, so I had to give the article the benefit of the doubt, to clear the backlog. To conclude this post, there was nothing wrong in my judgement, I stand by what I have done, but me voting, and also concluding the AFD process was perhaps a "conflict of interest", for which I am ready to apologise. You are most welcome to seek another admin's opinion, but I won't follow up on this. Thank you and regards, User:Nichalp/sg 19:17, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
NelehSaw your left shoe joke, which has become quite the archetype for the perenial question—what is notability? Ever since I took an interest in behind-the-scenes policy-wonking on WP, and especially since I started thinking about what this Project might achieve, it has seemed to me that the fundamental, fate-settling question before us is: what are we going to let in and what are we going to (try and) keep out? In a world where information is not yet cheap, and there is much garbage among the valuable, the free-for-all approach advocated by many uber-"inclusionists" is unhealthy. At the same time, the way "notability" is used by many folk seems less than thoughtful. Pondering a way out has led me to believe that a robust interpretation of WP:V is the brightest torch we have. The route is clear for articles; the Archilles heel is the idea of a stub. Is it possible to write a Theory of Everything for WP? Yeah. In time. encephalon 20:46, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
You're very, very bad. It's taken me ages to stop laughing, time I could have spent doing other things! That ought to be archived someplace. -Splash 21:24, 12 October 2005 (UTC) John SpargoHi. I restored John Spargo. I'm curious why you thought it was speedy delete material. --RoySmith 21:50, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
CVUI noticed you aren't in Category:Counter Vandalism Unit Member/wikipedia/en and wanted to let you now that we'd appreciate you adding yourself! Also, consider using one of the identification templates: {{User:Cool Cat/CVU1-1}} or {{User:Cool Cat/CVU2-1}} Thanks for your involvement with CVU! -- Essjay · Talk 00:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC) Yr welcomeRe : Yr msg, no probs. I do actually have an account, but had forgotten to log in! Regards, Gibraltarian deleting linksNot really sure why The War in Context was deleted from the Iraq page external links. This is neither a commercial site nor a private site. It's used by lots of journalists covering the war in Iraq - Tony Karon at Time, Christopher Dickey at Newsweek and Hassan Fatah at The New York Times, just to name a few. The War in ContextYes, this is my site. It's on a subject that I've been covering in depth for over three years and as well as adding articles I do provide commentary. Do a search on Ask.com with the query - Iraq war - http://web.ask.com/web?q=iraq+war&qsrc=0&o=0 and you'll see that The War in Context comes up as result #4 out of 15,950,000. With the same query run in Google's larger index it comes up 51 out of 120,000,000. Christopher Dickey, Paris Bureau Chief and Middle East Regional Editor for Newsweek Magazine, writes: "The War in Context tracks breaking news and adds thoughtful perspective," http://christopherdickey.blogspot.com/2005/10/terror-crying-wolf-playing-politics.html while Tony Karon, senior editor at TIME.com, says that my site "provides the best annotated clipping service of the mainstream media for all things war, terror and Mideast related." http://tonykaron.com/2005/08/15/war-in-context/
Texture wrote: Misplaced Pages is not for advertising your own web site. If your site gains notability it will be added at an appropariate place in the future by a third party. Adding links to your own site in article is considered a vanity edit and will be removed. The vanity guidelines describe vanity information as "any material that presents the appearance of being intended to in any way promote the personal notoriety of the author." The War in Context has extracts from 13,000 articles relating to the war in Iraq, the war on terrorism, the Middle East conflict and the Bush administration's involvement in these issues. There is virtually nothing on the site about me. The idea that sites will be added "at an appropariate place in the future" sounds good in principle, yet it was not until today that the Misplaced Pages Iraq page had a link added (by me) to Informed Comment http://www.juancole.com . Professor Juan Cole is one of the most widely quoted experts on Iraq in the United States. He has appeared many times on the PBS Newshour and is frequently quoted in all the major newspapers when expert opinion is sought on Iraq. But (until today) anyone trying to better understand what's happening in Iraq would not have been able to find a link to Informed Comment from Misplaced Pages's Iraq page. Misplaced Pages will not develop as a useful repository of expert knowledge if it is overzealously policed.
RFCHi there! I have openend an RFC on Tony Sidaway's frequent incivility and poor response to criticism. I would appreciate your opinion on the matter. If I understand correctly from his talk page, you have recently tried to discuss this very issue with him, and it didn't really resolve anything. I hope that an RFC may be more fruitful. Yours, Radiant_>|< 12:33, 21 October 2005 (UTC) Periodic table of the elementsDear Texture, I'm sorry to see that you reverted my addition to the English Misplaced Pages's article "Periodic table of the chemical elements". It wasn't my intention to advert any kind of commercial product: in fact, if you pay close attention to my webpage, it's FREEWARE. In other words, you may distribute it and do whatever you wish with it, so I thought it was worth a link in your page. Therefore, I don't considere that as "advertising a product", but an information source as any other page/link. Sorry again if I misunderstood Misplaced Pages's policies. Regards, Luis hey texturei am just posting here to ask premission to use your template for your talk page... i like it lots but i thought i would ask you 1st before i used it just in case you do not want me to use it. Simsy 19:57, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
What does this mean?You write on my RfC: "I have suggested with Tony that he propose new policy changes to CSD to allow the things he wants to delete outside of policy. He has dismissed this idea and prefers to delete because he can and thinks his opinion is sufficient to override policy." I have no idea what you mean here. Can you recall when you asked me to do this, and in what context? --Tony Sidaway 22:15, 26 October 2005 (UTC) |