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{{Nutshell|An element of fiction may satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article if it is ''central to understanding'' an ''important work'' of fiction and is the subject of ''] ]'' from ]. | Creator commentary can be used to provide real-world coverage in accordance with our policy on ]. | Alternatively, an article that meets the ] is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article.}} | |||
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| For an element of a fictional work to qualify for a stand-alone article, it must be an ''important aspect'' of an ''important fictional work'', with ''significant ]''. | Facts about development and reception can be ] in ] such as author commentary, as well as other ]. | Alternatively, any element of a fictional work that meets the ] is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article. }} | |||
{{For|information about writing articles on fiction|Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)}} | {{For|information about writing articles on fiction|Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)}} | ||
{{For|the previous version of this page|Misplaced Pages:Notability (fiction)/2008 proposal}} | |||
{{For|specific examples of where you may be able to help|Misplaced Pages:Fiction/Noticeboard}} | {{For|specific examples of where you may be able to help|Misplaced Pages:Fiction/Noticeboard}} | ||
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'''Misplaced Pages:Notability (fiction)''' is a ''''' |
'''Misplaced Pages:Notability (fiction)''' is a '''proposed''' guideline intended to determine whether an '''element of fiction''' should or should not have an article on Misplaced Pages. An element of fiction is (1) an individual component of a serialized work, such as a television episode or a comic book storyline, or (2) an element in the fictionalized world, such as a character or setting. This guideline does not cover works of fiction as a whole, which are covered by guidelines such as ], ], ], ], and others. | ||
If a subject relating to a work or element of fiction meets the requirement of the ], it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article. In addition, elements of a notable work of fiction may qualify for their own standalone article if they meet the ] described below. Notability is based on the belief that adequate evidence for ''all three'' criteria exists, even if the article's current revision is ]. This guideline does not supersede Misplaced Pages's content and inclusion policies such as those on ] and ]. | |||
It is general consensus on Misplaced Pages that articles should not be split and split again into ever more minutiae of detail treatment, with each split normally lowering the level of significant real-world coverage contained in an article. This means that while a book or television episode may be the subject of significant real-world coverage, it is not normally advisable to have a separate article on every fictional character, episode, or scene that appears in a work of fiction, such that the coverage contains only trivial details or information about the plot. | |||
== Three-pronged test for notability == | == Three-pronged test for notability == | ||
Articles covering elements within a fictional work are generally retained if their coverage meets these three conditions: | |||
* '''Importance of the fictional work''': To justify articles on individual elements, a work of fiction must be of particular cultural or historical significance. This requires significant external sourcing for the work itself, well beyond the basic threshold of the ]. Those sources should present clear claims for the artistic or cultural importance of the fictional work.<!--examples? perhaps a link to one of the other pages that discusses writing about fiction?--> | |||
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# '''Importance of the fictional work''': To justify articles on individual elements, the fictional work from which they come must have produced significant artistic impact, cultural impact, or general popularity. This is shown when the work (not the element) exceeds the relevant notability guidelines. | |||
A subject that meets all three of the above criteria may qualify for a standalone article. An article is ], and a subject can still be notable based on the reasonable belief that adequate evidence of notability exists. But there must be a reasonable belief that evidence exists for all ''three'' criteria. | |||
⚫ | # '''Role within the fictional work''': The element should be an episode or recurring character that is central to understanding the fictional work. Other essential elements of the work are appropriate too, but only if their significance is ] in commentary from ]. ], and ] are insufficient. | ||
⚫ | # '''Real-world coverage''': Significant ] must exist on the element. Examples of real-world coverage include: creative influences, design processes, critical commentary, and cultural reception. Sometimes this real-world perspective can be established through the use of sources with a connection to the creators of the fictional work, such as creator commentary. Merely listing the notable works where the fictional element appears, their respective release dates, and the names of the production staff is not sufficient. In practice, this is generally the most important of the three prongs. | ||
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== Sources and notability == | == Sources and notability == | ||
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⚫ | A topic about which there are no significant secondary sources cannot pass this guideline. Primary sources, such as the fictional work itself, can be used to ] certain facts about the fictional work. However, because they offer no real-world coverage about themselves, they cannot satisfy the first or third prongs, and thus are not enough to establish notability. Although part of coverage of a fictional subject is a ], an article written entirely from primary sources is a warning sign that the subject might not meet the three-pronged test above. | ||
⚫ | All articles must meet Misplaced Pages's policy on ] |
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⚫ | All articles must meet Misplaced Pages's policy on ] and ]. In particular, the ] requires the use of reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. For fictional subjects, terms such as ''reliability'' and ''independence'' have specialized meanings. | ||
=== Reliability === | === Reliability === | ||
Reception, reviews, and criticism must be verified in reliable sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. News organizations and scholarly journals usually ensure reliability through fact-checking or peer review; however, a source may still be considered reliable without these strict content controls. Wikipedians can determine whether a source meets our guideline on reliable sources through consensus at the ], or at specific ]. | |||
=== Independence === | === Independence === | ||
Coverage of fiction often benefits from relying on sources that do not meet the strictest standards of independence. Because |
Coverage of fiction often benefits from relying on sources that do not meet the strictest standards of independence. Because copyright holders often guard their intellectual property, much of the background information about fictional subjects may come from copyright holders. As a result, real-world coverage may be established through the use of non-promotional ] sources that are not independent from the content creators. Creator commentary should be used in accordance with Misplaced Pages's policy on ], and should provide significant real-world coverage that goes beyond what is revealed in the plot of the fictional work. | ||
⚫ | Although an article with no independent sources may meet the minimum threshold to avoid deletion, independent sourcing is necessary to reach ]. Articles that resist good-faith efforts to improve them to good article status, including the search for independent sources, are often merged into other articles. Both the guideline on ] and policy on ] call for articles to "rely on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. " Effort should be made to find appropriate reliable, independent sources, and to to ensure that the distribution of fictional articles adhere to a ] and avoid ]. | ||
As a result, elements of the three-prong test may be satisfied through the use of non-promotional sources that may or may not be independent from the content creators. These are independent in the sense that they make analytic, synthetic, interpretive, explanatory, and/or evaluative claims about the subject. These may include ] such as author or developer commentary which provide significant real-world content about the subject that goes beyond what is revealed in the plot of the fictional work. | |||
⚫ | == Articles that don't meet the inclusion criteria== | ||
⚫ | Although an article with no independent sources may meet the minimum threshold to avoid deletion, |
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⚫ | An article that does not meet these criteria at present may still be notable. In evaluating whether an article satisfies this guideline, one should consider not only the present state of the article, but also the likelihood that sources exist to satisfy all three criteria. Remember that all Misplaced Pages articles are ], and an article can be notable if such sources exist even if they have not been added at present. Merely asserting that such sources exist is seldom persuasive, especially as time passes and actual ] does not surface. | ||
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⚫ | A topic about which there are no significant secondary sources cannot pass this guideline. Primary sources, such as the fictional work itself, can be used to ] certain facts about the fictional work |
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] and original analysis of primary sources (for example, by speculating about what a scene might imply, or by making detailed comparisons between scenes) should be avoided. Plot summary may be used to a limited extent as described by our ], but an article written entirely from primary sources is a warning sign that the subject might not meet the three-pronged test above. | |||
⚫ | == Articles that don't meet the inclusion criteria== | ||
⚫ | In addition, no part of this guideline is meant to preempt the editorial decision of content selection and presentation; for example, a topic may meet all the criteria, but may be decided by consensus to be better covered in the article on the work of fiction itself instead of a separate article if there is limited information available. | ||
⚫ | An article that does not meet these criteria at present |
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Misplaced Pages:Notability (fiction) is a proposed guideline intended to determine whether an element of fiction should or should not have an article on Misplaced Pages. An element of fiction is (1) an individual component of a serialized work, such as a television episode or a comic book storyline, or (2) an element in the fictionalized world, such as a character or setting. This guideline does not cover works of fiction as a whole, which are covered by guidelines such as books, films, websites, music, and others.
If a subject relating to a work or element of fiction meets the requirement of the general notability guideline, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article. In addition, elements of a notable work of fiction may qualify for their own standalone article if they meet the three-pronged test described below. Notability is based on the belief that adequate evidence for all three criteria exists, even if the article's current revision is not perfect. This guideline does not supersede Misplaced Pages's content and inclusion policies such as those on verifiability and what Misplaced Pages is not.
It is general consensus on Misplaced Pages that articles should not be split and split again into ever more minutiae of detail treatment, with each split normally lowering the level of significant real-world coverage contained in an article. This means that while a book or television episode may be the subject of significant real-world coverage, it is not normally advisable to have a separate article on every fictional character, episode, or scene that appears in a work of fiction, such that the coverage contains only trivial details or information about the plot.
Three-pronged test for notability
Articles covering elements within a fictional work are generally retained if their coverage meets these three conditions:
- Importance of the fictional work: To justify articles on individual elements, the fictional work from which they come must have produced significant artistic impact, cultural impact, or general popularity. This is shown when the work (not the element) exceeds the relevant notability guidelines.
- Role within the fictional work: The element should be an episode or recurring character that is central to understanding the fictional work. Other essential elements of the work are appropriate too, but only if their significance is verified in commentary from reliable sources. Notability requires evidence, and bald assertions of significance are insufficient.
- Real-world coverage: Significant real-world information must exist on the element. Examples of real-world coverage include: creative influences, design processes, critical commentary, and cultural reception. Sometimes this real-world perspective can be established through the use of sources with a connection to the creators of the fictional work, such as creator commentary. Merely listing the notable works where the fictional element appears, their respective release dates, and the names of the production staff is not sufficient. In practice, this is generally the most important of the three prongs.
Sources and notability
Further information: ]A topic about which there are no significant secondary sources cannot pass this guideline. Primary sources, such as the fictional work itself, can be used to verify certain facts about the fictional work. However, because they offer no real-world coverage about themselves, they cannot satisfy the first or third prongs, and thus are not enough to establish notability. Although part of coverage of a fictional subject is a concise plot summary, an article written entirely from primary sources is a warning sign that the subject might not meet the three-pronged test above.
All articles must meet Misplaced Pages's policy on verifiability and reliable sources. In particular, the general notability guideline requires the use of reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. For fictional subjects, terms such as reliability and independence have specialized meanings.
Reliability
Reception, reviews, and criticism must be verified in reliable sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. News organizations and scholarly journals usually ensure reliability through fact-checking or peer review; however, a source may still be considered reliable without these strict content controls. Wikipedians can determine whether a source meets our guideline on reliable sources through consensus at the Reliable sources noticeboard, or at specific WikiProjects.
Independence
Coverage of fiction often benefits from relying on sources that do not meet the strictest standards of independence. Because copyright holders often guard their intellectual property, much of the background information about fictional subjects may come from copyright holders. As a result, real-world coverage may be established through the use of non-promotional secondary sources that are not independent from the content creators. Creator commentary should be used in accordance with Misplaced Pages's policy on self-published sources, and should provide significant real-world coverage that goes beyond what is revealed in the plot of the fictional work.
Although an article with no independent sources may meet the minimum threshold to avoid deletion, independent sourcing is necessary to reach good article status. Articles that resist good-faith efforts to improve them to good article status, including the search for independent sources, are often merged into other articles. Both the guideline on reliable sources and policy on verifiability call for articles to "rely on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. " Effort should be made to find appropriate reliable, independent sources, and to to ensure that the distribution of fictional articles adhere to a neutral point of view and avoid corporate promotion.
Articles that don't meet the inclusion criteria
An article that does not meet these criteria at present may still be notable. In evaluating whether an article satisfies this guideline, one should consider not only the present state of the article, but also the likelihood that sources exist to satisfy all three criteria. Remember that all Misplaced Pages articles are not a final draft, and an article can be notable if such sources exist even if they have not been added at present. Merely asserting that such sources exist is seldom persuasive, especially as time passes and actual proof does not surface.
In addition, no part of this guideline is meant to preempt the editorial decision of content selection and presentation; for example, a topic may meet all the criteria, but may be decided by consensus to be better covered in the article on the work of fiction itself instead of a separate article if there is limited information available.
See also
- Guidelines, examples and how-tos
- For examples of high quality fiction articles, see Good and Featured.
- Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)
- Misplaced Pages:How to write a plot summary
- Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (anime- and manga-related articles)
- Misplaced Pages:Television episodes
- Misplaced Pages:Writing better articles#Check your fiction
- Wikiproject Video Games "scope" guidance
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- Noticeboards and Wikiprojects
- Fiction-related Noticeboard.
- WikiProject Films guidelines on plot summaries
- WikiProject Novels guidelines on plot summaries
- WikiProject Television guidelines on plot summaries
- WikiProject Soap Operas guidelines on character articles
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