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::::Why don't you? Prove to us all you really are an aussie. ] (]) 03:28, 3 February 2009 (UTC) | ::::Why don't you? Prove to us all you really are an aussie. ] (]) 03:28, 3 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
*'''Support''' merging. I do not see any difference between subjects of these two articles.] (]) 03:38, 3 February 2009 (UTC) |
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Notability
The subject's notability can be supported by the wealth of references in User:Digwuren/Workshop/Estophobia. In interest of carefully following Misplaced Pages policies, I won't copy them here wholesale, but integration is welcome. Digwuren 15:48, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you for those sources I placed the notability tag because I was unsure of the articles notability since it did not have any sources but I did not want to prod it as I did to Estophilia and then you improved the article dramatically (and I supported you taking the prod off) however I do think it would be best if this article contained the sources that you have in your workshop so as to make it easier for notability to be established ChrisLamb 15:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Redirect to Russo-Estonian relations
Are you sure you wish to do this? The implications are rather deep...--Alexia Death 18:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
wikidictionary term
I think this is wikdictionary term...--Alexia Death 19:09, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Please fix this PROTECTED DOUBLE REDIRECT
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Please redirect this protected redirect to Estonia-Russia relations as it is currently a double redirect.--h i s r e s e a r c h 12:26, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Done. No need to shout. Cheers. --MZMcBride 21:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
RfD
Highly POV to redirect this title into Estonian-Russian relationship. Could any admin place an RfD template here for me? Thanks, --Irpen 08:39, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- You can thank your compatriot Mikkalai for turning this into a redirect . We would prefer to turn it into an article about anti-Estonian sentiment. Martintg 09:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
"most particularly"
Since the quotatuion for this intro sentence is not online, I cannot verify it. Please provide a citation that indeed says "most particularly". In my experience it is "most particularly" used in right/nationalist/angry blogs, etc., , rather than in Kremlin controlled media. - 7-bubёn >t 18:23, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Period
"Estonia's most foreign political disagreements having been with Russia for the last three centuries" Isn't the three centuries a bit to long time? Estonia hasn't been even idenpendent for that long. I think it would be more correct to say, that most foreign political disagreements of Estonian Republic have been with Russia (or Soviet Union). --Kyng (talk) 09:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
Merge eSStonia
ESStonia was subject to an AfD due to notability issues, which resulted in "no concensus". This article should be merged into Anti-Estonian sentiment, as it is obviously an expression of this sentiment, and most of its content is already duplicated in this article anyway, so there are POVFORK issues too. Placing it within the wider context of this article gives the expression a more encyclopedic treatment. Martintg (talk) 02:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose eSStonia is obviously a notable term, which has been demonstrated to be notable in usage; it has a defined meaning and not a mish mash of original research. It is not simply an expression of "anti-Estonian sentiment", it is much deeper than that, in that it also a manifestation of discord surrounding the Bronze Soldier and Russian perceptions of the Estonian state, and relations between the two countries. Refer to other terms such as Great Satan, which by the same argument for merging should be placed in Anti-American sentiment, or Evil Empire which should be placed in Anti-Russian sentiment. As quite a notable political slogan/pejorative/neologism whatever, it should be documented and be allowed to expand in future. --Russavia 02:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Notability is virtually non-existent in English sources, being basically mentioned in two articles in The Economist and a footnote in a grad student's paper, unlike coverage of the terms Great Satan or Evil Empire. For this reason alone its coverage as a standalone article is undue and the deeper issues Russian perceptions of the Estonian state is best covered in Anti-Estonian sentiment. I see no scope for expansion at all. Martintg (talk) 02:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Then take it back to AfD, and bundle it together with Putinjugend, and they can all be dealt with at the same time. --Russavia 03:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Why don't you? Prove to us all you really are an aussie. Martintg (talk) 03:28, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Then take it back to AfD, and bundle it together with Putinjugend, and they can all be dealt with at the same time. --Russavia 03:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Notability is virtually non-existent in English sources, being basically mentioned in two articles in The Economist and a footnote in a grad student's paper, unlike coverage of the terms Great Satan or Evil Empire. For this reason alone its coverage as a standalone article is undue and the deeper issues Russian perceptions of the Estonian state is best covered in Anti-Estonian sentiment. I see no scope for expansion at all. Martintg (talk) 02:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support merging. I do not see any difference between subjects of these two articles.Biophys (talk) 03:38, 3 February 2009 (UTC)