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I wrote to Sandstein's page for clarification regarding the first notice put up and he said it was not in the proper format. When I suggested a format he said that was not correct either. By that token it strikes me that my banning from the article was not in the proper format either, so I've asked him to please take a look at my earlier banning in the archive and see how that differs. He seemed to think Cerejota's comment should have been taken to ANI rather than ANE. I really can't see why mine was adjudicated there if his was not. Anyway, keep an eye on his page, maybe we will learn something about finding our way around the maze of courtrooms, lol. I'm not big on drama, but if I'm being thrust into it against my will, I might as well go to drama school. ] (]) 22:07, 7 February 2009 (UTC) I wrote to Sandstein's page for clarification regarding the first notice put up and he said it was not in the proper format. When I suggested a format he said that was not correct either. By that token it strikes me that my banning from the article was not in the proper format either, so I've asked him to please take a look at my earlier banning in the archive and see how that differs. He seemed to think Cerejota's comment should have been taken to ANI rather than ANE. I really can't see why mine was adjudicated there if his was not. Anyway, keep an eye on his page, maybe we will learn something about finding our way around the maze of courtrooms, lol. I'm not big on drama, but if I'm being thrust into it against my will, I might as well go to drama school. ] (]) 22:07, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

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Roof knocking

Well, it looks like things worked out with the AFD on roof knocking! WacoJacko (talk) 02:16, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah. Thanks a lot for your support!--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 02:19, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry

No need to apologize, but thanks anyway. It happens on articles like that. --Tocino 22:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Your kind welcome

Hi brewcrewer,

Thank you for your welcome message which though I'm sure was written with the best intentions is moderately patronising. After all, I did sign my comment, it's not the first wikipedia article I've ever edited, and as I'm sure you would agree it's not up to anybody to bestow on people editing permission of articles without logging in! 93.97.36.253 (talk) 00:16, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the patronizing tone. You should know that I did not actually write the welcome. It's just a template that I copy and pasted to your talkpage. There's a whole bunch of these templates at Misplaced Pages:Welcoming committee/Welcome templates. Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 00:21, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Chesley Sullenberger

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Chesley Sullenberger, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process because of the following concern:

Adequately covered in the article about his successful ditching of an airliner.

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ITN awards

Thanks for leaving the note. It appears I forgot to do that. Usually, I look through the history and see which editors add the most content to the article. Thanks for reminding me...I'll go do that now. Spencer 15:04, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Current events globe On 16 January, 2009, In the news was updated with a news item that involved the article US Airways Flight 1549, which you helped update. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently created or updated article, then please suggest it on the In the news candidates page.
--Spencer 15:12, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
No problem at all. Sometimes somebody makes 20 edits to an ITN article (but are minor) and someone makes a 1-edit huge expansion that I miss. Also, I'm one of the few admins that gives them out (but I cover for the ones that don't), but I think it's just a nice way to encourage ITN participation. Spencer 03:29, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
I believe so. You may want to use the image File:Nuvola apps knewsticker.png with it. Spencer 03:45, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Or File:Gnome globe current event.svg. Spencer 03:46, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Child Museum of Cairo

Expanded. Dun't anybody know better than to doubt baldy? Dr. Blofeld 15:27, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Hell hath no fury compared to a Baldy-created article taken to an afd :-) --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 16:32, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Heheh! Dr. Blofeld 20:34, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Clarence Thomas

Thanks for taking this on. I've made the change to the page -- Samir 22:49, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Dirty Birds

Sauteed bird in the evening smells even better than Smelly Sox. StarM 23:33, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Willis McGahee microwaved children? source.

I just thought i would let you know since you seemed to have made some changes on that page. the last section says

"In January 2006, McGahee drew controversy when a woman claimed that he had microwaved her children. He has been faced with two other similar lawsuits over a three year span. Genetic testing proved that McGahee was the father of both children."

I think thats probably vandalism, i couldnt find anything on the internet about microwaving children. I didnt want to change anything because i didnt know for sure.

thanks Brendan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.246.40.155 (talk) 15:03, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. It was vandalism and I removed it. In the future, if you see anything that might be vandalism and is unsourced (especially it it's about a living person) please don't hesitate, be WP:BOLD and remove it. Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 15:22, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Tell Juhfiyeh

Thanks for correcting my tagging mistake on Tell Juhfiyeh. I'm pretty sure I meant to put up a "expand" tag, but put up the alternative name for "cleanup" ("improve") instead. Either a typo, or a brainfart, but either way thanks for catching it! Jo7hs2 (talk) 19:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I'm not so sure about the {{expand}} tag either. It's kinda redundant to the "stub." But I guess it doesn't really matter. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 19:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your support

Thank you for your support on the noticeboard and on Cyde's talk page. It is much appreciated. Tundrabuggy (talk) 23:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Barack Obama 2009 presidential inauguration

Re : Please see the explanation I provided here for why the title should, according to the MoS, not be in boldface. It's understandable that some assume every article title must be repeated in boldface in the article lead, but it's really hypercorrection. I'd greatly appreciate it if you'd reconsider and return it to the MoS-compatible version. 78.34.134.183 (talk) 04:15, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

It was just a drive-by edit. I don't care either way. You can revert if you wish. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 04:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
I forgot to mention, the article has been protected in the meantime (and rightly so), so I can't edit it anymore. 78.34.134.183 (talk) 04:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Done.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 04:27, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks a bunch! (let's see how long it lasts :D ) 78.34.134.183 (talk) 04:37, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Girls eh?

You missed my 2008 Olympic welcome home parade set. In my archives, 97-99 I think? There used to be a race for women IIRC but they got rid of it. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 04:36, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

... which is a darn shame! Giggy (talk) 04:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but just doesn't do it for me. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 04:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I can understand that. But on the other hand, File:TDUblonde1.jpg - No - - No - File:TDUblonde3.jpg - No

Ah ha! This one This one almost does do it for me. Pdfpdf (talk) 15:51, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Added one per request....YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 00:56, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

TDU

For your amusement? (I hope.) Pdfpdf (talk) 15:13, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Hehe. Good one. My talkpage is officially out of control.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 17:47, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

RfA thankspam

Thank you for your participation in my recent RfA, which failed with 90/38/3; whether you supported, opposed or remained neutral.

Special thanks go out to Moreschi, Dougweller and Frank for nominating me, and I will try to take everyone's comments on board.

Thanks again for your participation. I am currently concentrating my efforts on the Wikification WikiProject. It's fun! Please visit the project and wikify a few articles to help clear the backlog. If you can recruit some more participants, then even better.

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Opinion requested

Regarding: this edit. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:04, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Dunno, I voted 1 more because I was in the mood of being contrarian. 2 is probably a better idea.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 00:22, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I have noticed

I have noticed that when you search the name David Wright, you go to a list of different David Wrights. I don't really think this is good because David Wright(baseball) is probobly to best known David Wright. I don't know how to fix this, could you either tell me or do it for me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgmets5 (talkcontribs) 01:21, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that although the baseball player is the best known to you and I, somebody in say South Africa knows David Wright (poet) and never heard of the baseball player. This encyclopedia is intended for all English language speakers so we can't really put Americans before non-Americans and baseball players before politicians. Extremely famous sports stars are different. For example, Michael Jordan goes directly to the basketball player even though there are other people named Michael Jordan (Michael Jordan (disambiguation)). Best,--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 01:48, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah but why should Ryan Howard for example or when I search Nick Evans, i get some rugby player who from what i can tell is not "Michael Jordan-esque". the page redirects you to a list of 7 Nick Evanses. Why is that guy considered better and more "search atomaticlly to his own page-worthy?" than David Wright? Is it his playing on a nationaly team because Wright will be doing that this march. I just dont understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgmets5 (talkcontribs) 02:50, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
I understand your frustration. The other Ryan Howard is a bit part fictional character so I don't think that's really a big issue. As for Nick Evans, it does look a bit weird. Although I don't think the baseball player has a greater overall notability then the New Zealender rugby player, there isn't a great reason for the page to redirect to the rugby player over the others. These issues are complicated and sometimes contentious (see Misplaced Pages:Disambiguation). You can bring this issue up at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Baseball and see what other editors say. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 04:22, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Mediation

Per Samir's suggestion at Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2009-01/Clarence Thomas, I've filed a mediation request at Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Clarence Thomas. Thanks for trying... Simon Dodd (talk) 04:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I feel that we settled the matter and thank you for the mediation. Bearian's comments about WP policy give credence to my view. I don't see why this has to be dragged out. RafaelRGarcia (talk) 01:54, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Hey, I'm not going to any RFM. I waste enough time with my own WP drama, I don't have time for drama I'm not involved with. The Mediation Cabal thing was something I tried on a whim. It's not something I usually get involved with and considering my initial lack of success, it's not something which I plan on making into a career :) Good luck, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 02:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Steve Somers

Got your message. Help would be much appreciated. The WFAN reference names a lot of TV work he did (some of it is still in the talk page). I'm not sure where to incorporate it, so if you have time, take a stab at it. Thanks. SERSeanCrane (talk) 06:55, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Welcomed

Thanks for the welcome. I'm just tidying up spelling and grammar errors as I procastinate by reading random articles. Might as well be slightly productive as I waste my time! Right, let's try this 4 tilda thing... Bigger digger (talk) 00:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Sure thing. Your signature apparently works! That's a cool name, by the way.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:00, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Re. re your comments at RPP for Gary Shaw

Hello Brewcrewer. I saw the comments on the IP's talk page. If he returns, please report to me or another admin right away. Now I cannot semi-protect an article that was vandalized just once since September. Regards, Húsönd 19:21, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

And thanks again

....for your support. It is very much appreciated. Tundrabuggy (talk) 15:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

  • Just wanted to let you know that I have put a request for reconsideration at user:PhilKnight's talk page.

I am reminded of the Lewis Carroll verses from Father William.

`You are old,' said the youth, `and your jaws are too weak
For anything tougher than suet;
Yet you finished the goose, with the bones and the beak--
Pray how did you manage to do it?'
'In my youth,' said his father, `I took to the law,
And argued each case with my wife;
And the muscular strength, which it gave to my jaw,
Has lasted the rest of my life.'

In my old age I shall be able to finish the goose. :) Shalom — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tundrabuggy (talkcontribs)

thank you

My RFA passed today at 150/48/6. I wanted to thank you for weighing in, and I wanted to let you know I appreciated all of the comments, advice, criticism, and seriously took it all to heart this past week. I'll do my absolute best to not let any of you down with the incredible trust given me today. rootology (C)(T) 08:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for the trust you placed in me by supporting my RfA (which passed and, apparently, I am now an admin!). I will do my best to continue to act in a way that is consistent with the policies of wikipedia as well with our common desire to build and perfect this repository of human knowledge; and can only hope that you never feel that your trust was misplaced. Thanks again! --Regent's Park (Rose Garden) 23:57, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

question

Hello, While you and I have disagreed quite a bit on that one article, I would like to ask you if you think I have made any comment that could be perceived as antisemitic. Feel free to say what you want here, I will not hold it against you in any way. I would like to know because I do not consider myself an anti-semite and if I have ever given that impression I would very much like to correct it. Thanks, Nableezy (talk) 00:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

It's hard to distinguish between all the editors at the Gaza conflict article, but no, I don't recall any specific statements that clearly indicated that its author was an antisemite. Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 00:45, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Antisemitic incidents alleged to be related to the 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict

Hi Brewcrewer, you commented on the talk page of the admin who closed this discussion as delete. I wanted to let you know that I put the deletion up for review. As far as I know, any editor can comment there, and your input would be welcome. Happy editing. Jalapenos do exist (talk) 01:02, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I beat you to it. I had the deletion admin's talkpage watchlisted and saw your notice. I wouldn't have done the DRV myself; my experience tells me this won't get overturned. But I guess it's worth a shot. Btw, I noticed your work at the Gaza conflict page, you're doing a great job there especially under the circumstances. Every once in a while I stop by there, but I have to be in the right mood. I'm sure you know what I mean. Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 04:49, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Notification of arbitration enforcement

I am concerned by your comments on Wikifan12345's talk page and I have raised the matter at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration enforcement. Please see WP:AE#User:Wikifan12345 and User:Brewcrewer. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Bah. I ain't going there. You can dramatize away as you please. You should know, that in general, talking to editors (something I learned from User:Elonka) gets far better results then insulting templates. If you would like to get a problematic editor like Wikifan12345 to calm down, the best course of action is to be empathetic and ask nicely before plastering his talk page with templates. Templates breeds insults which breeds more unnecessary drama. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 04:57, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Already been tried. RomaC asked Wikifan12345 to cease personal attacks at 08:15, 3 February 2009; Wikifan12345 not only ignored that, he deleted the warning from his talk page and carried on making personal attacks. It's time for a block now. -- ChrisO (talk) 08:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
RomaC was one of the people that he was arguing with at the talkpage. I wouldn't make a big deal out of his template. In any case, he recently returned and all indications are that he will no longer act uncivilly. I really can't understand why you're so itching to block him. In any case, I'm not really interested in your obsession with Wikifan12345. Take your issues up at his talkpage or at WP:AE. Best of luck, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 22:20, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

My comments at Gaza conflict

Technically it would be ad hominems. But I don't get it. What's the attack? Saying I welcomed their input? That they got themselves blocked? --JGGardiner (talk) 07:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you should take a moment to read what I said literally. I think you are reading sarcasm into or implications that were not intended. I had already clarified the remark with this post -- 13 minutes before you contacted me. You might note that I even respond to Roma's joke with a serious comment (followed by a different joke). I think this is in line with what I've been saying at the article generally, what I said after John's blockk, what I said after Tundrabuggy's and even what I say to vandals like I did recently here and here. I welcome everyone's input and I really do think it is unfortunate that users sometimes lose their ability to speak because they were too passionate. I think it is problematic when editors are blocked and moreso when they share the same perspective.
I think you've misread me and misread my comment. I think my comment could only be problematic if one reads sarcasm into it or some sort of implication that was not intended. And if I may be blunt, when you respond to a comment according to the malicious intent you're read into it, you are not assuming good faith. --JGGardiner (talk) 20:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
JGGardiner, it is easy to not assume good faith here sometimes when other editors are constantly sending one to various forums in an effort to get our side blocked. I think if you look over the record you will see that, much like crime statistics, all that are sanctioned are those who are reported. Then at the hearing, all the buddies chime in. In fact, my block was without notice nor was Ieven told in time to defend myself. In fact it was "my buddy brewcrewer" who told me where I could find the ban discussion intiated by Cerejota. The banning admin told me later that he was not required to allow me to defend myself or even notify me of the hearing, though listened to (and was influenced by) comments from the other side. Brewcrewer and I (and others) both have been reported several times by users on this page for "edit warring" and 3RR etc. and the pro-Palestinian editors have come to "court" to throw stones, figuratively speaking. Then one gets comments like this one where we are accused of "taking marching orders" from CAMERA and being "CAMERA Rangers" etc, it is easy to start feeling a little paranoid. Sometimes it gets hard to assume good faith when there actually are ogres behind every tree. Tundrabuggy (talk) 04:46, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

regarding Albert Hammond, Jr.

Hey Brewcrewer. It has come to my attention that you have moved the page Albert Hammond, Jr. recently, and in my opinion the page move was made in a hurry without everyone's consensus over the matter, so I have decided that a discussion will be taking place to discuss about the page move, if you have any reason to support the page move that you've made earlier, feel free to post it in the discussion page, best of wishes, no harm intended, peace. Signed, kotakkasut 08:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

South Park Mexican

There is a dispute, and I am personally curious about what the right thing is to be done, on the South Park Mexican article. Should his child molestation conviction be noted in the introductory paragraph? I really don't know. I hope you can help (like you did on the Recluse article, thank you). Belasted (talk) 04:09, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm afraid I'm leaning towards disagreeing with you one this one. When a notable person has a minor conviction it should not be noted mentioned in the lede. However, this case is different because a major part of his notability is the molestation issue. Also, due to this conviction he's currently in prison and will be there for while. I do agree that the phrasing is a bit awkward and can be reformatted a bit. We might also add some more information about his music career to the lede to minimize the awkwardness. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

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Soap Opera Rapid Aging Syndrome

I hate to bother you again, but since you deleted the list in the Recluse article, I thought you'd a good person to discuss this with. Check out the examples list in the Soap Opera Rapid Aging Syndrome article. What do you say, get rid of it? Belasted (talk) 22:36, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Hey Belasted, I'm happy to see you take WP:V seriously. The same cannot be said about most editors around here. The list at Recluse was far more egregious because it dealt with living people and was sort of defamatory. This soap opera stuff is not that dangerous. As a matter of fact, most of these fiction stuff are unfortunately unsourced. That's one of the reasons I stay away from there. With these type of stuff, I would suggest you tag it with {{unreferencedsection}} or {{fact}} and bring it up at the talkpage before deleting it. Best, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:11, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, wouldn't you agree that the list is a bit huge? Perhaps it should be separate from the main article? Belasted (talk) 05:14, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Maybe. I've seen bigger. Does it comply with Misplaced Pages:Article size?--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:19, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the comment. No hard feelings. I guess I was trying to be ironic on the article talk and maybe I said it poorly. I guess that's what happens when you edit so late at night.

About the general problem, I'm Canadian so hockey metaphors come to my mind easily. So if you'll indulge me:

A lot of hockey players will think that a referee is biased and sometimes they are. Sometimes it seems that the ref will call a little hook or slash against one team but allow it when the other team does it. As a player you can get mad at the double-standard but that won't do anything. The best way to deal with it is to make sure you don't give the ref an excuse to call a penalty in the first place.

I don't think any editors were on their best behaviour at the article. Or maybe a few that I could count on one hand. I think that a few got away with little slashes here and there. We should all do better and especially those who feel the refs don't like them. Cheers. --JGGardiner (talk) 09:05, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Rachel Corrie

Sorry about causing a commotion at the R.C. article. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 19:51, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Latest ANE thingy

I wrote to Sandstein's page for clarification regarding the first notice put up and he said it was not in the proper format. When I suggested a format he said that was not correct either. By that token it strikes me that my banning from the article was not in the proper format either, so I've asked him to please take a look at my earlier banning in the archive and see how that differs. He seemed to think Cerejota's comment should have been taken to ANI rather than ANE. I really can't see why mine was adjudicated there if his was not. Anyway, keep an eye on his page, maybe we will learn something about finding our way around the maze of courtrooms, lol. I'm not big on drama, but if I'm being thrust into it against my will, I might as well go to drama school. Tundrabuggy (talk) 22:07, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Notification

Hi Brewcrewer, I appreciate you're aware of these restrictions, however, just to confirm: As a result of an arbitration case, the Arbitration committee has acknowledged long-term and persistent problems in the editing of articles related to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, broadly understood. As a result, the Committee has enacted broad editing restrictions, described here and below.

  • Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process.
  • The sanctions imposed may include blocks of up to one year in length; bans from editing any page or set of pages within the area of conflict; bans on any editing related to the topic or its closely related topics; restrictions on reverts or other specified behaviors; or any other measures which the imposing administrator believes are reasonably necessary to ensure the smooth functioning of the project.
  • Prior to any sanctions being imposed, the editor in question shall be given a warning with a link to this decision; and, where appropriate, should be counseled on specific steps that he or she can take to improve his or her editing in accordance with relevant policies and guidelines.
  • Discretionary sanctions imposed under the provisions of this decision may be appealed to the imposing administrator, the appropriate administrators' noticeboard (currently WP:AE), or the Committee.

These editing restrictions may be applied to any editor for cause, provided the editor has been previously informed of the case. This message is to so inform you. This message does not necessarily mean that your current editing has been deemed a problem; this is a template message crafted to make it easier to notify any user who has edited the topic of the existence of these sanctions.

Generally, the next step, if an administrator feels your conduct on pages in this topic area is disruptive, would be a warning, to be followed by the imposition of sanctions (although in cases of serious disruption, the warning may be omitted). Hopefully no such action will be necessary.

This notice is only effective if given by an administrator and logged here. PhilKnight (talk) 16:16, 8 February 2009 (UTC)