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Welcome to my talk page. If you've come to complain, whine, moan, question my judgment, my intelligence, my sanity, or tell me off in any way, that's fine. I'm a big girl who can take it. If you've come to chat, compliment me, have a laugh, or discuss articles that's even better.

Owl City, please?

Hi, I don't know how bad (you mentioned blatant advertising) the previous page on "Owl City" was, but I think the group seems notable enough to have a wikipedia page. Can't we simply add a stub for it, with their two records so far? they apparently reached the Top Unsigned Artist position on Myspace.Valeria.depaiva (talk) 05:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Hi, happy new year to you too! Could you tell me how my artical was an example of advertising?> Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmm2008 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

It's your own non notable company that you have repeatedly tried to add to Misplaced Pages for nearly a year. Theresa Knott | token threats 16:18, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

WikiLove!

DougsTech (talk) has given you a fresh piece of fried chicken! Chickens promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a piping hot chicken, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Bon appetit!

Spread the tastiness of chickens by adding {{subst:GiveChicken}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

User talk:Yorkshirian

A discussion has been initated by User:Yorkshirian on his talk page today (9/1/2009). As it was yourself who extended the block to life, and are quite neutral to the goings on, I'd very much welcome your input, even if to point us in the right direction. However, I'll understand if you don't want to get involved. --Jza84 |  Talk  03:17, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy Theresa knott/archive23's Day!

User:Theresa knott/archive23 has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, and therefore, I've officially declared today as Theresa knott/archive23's day! For being such a beautiful person and great Wikipedian, enjoy being the Star of the day, dear Theresa knott/archive23! Peace, Rlevse ~ A record of your Day will always be kept here.

For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it.

Your day is 9 Jan. — Rlevse • Talk • 00:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

What a nice idea! Theresa Knott | token threats 07:23, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

List of best-selling music artists

Dear Mrs. Theresa knott, I saw the List of best-selling music artists, where I showed the user Harout72 five reliable sources about Black Sabbath, where he could see than this band has sold more than 100 million albuns worldwide. One of than is from the world's biggest music Tv channel, MTV. Anohter one is from the famous site amazon.com. Please look:

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Sabbath-Souls-black-t-shirt/dp/B001OR23BC

http://www.metal-archives.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=42351&highlight=&sid=223ac726a08a0268d8a3012f70ab9ae1

http://geekzkrieg.com/top-10-influential-metal-bands/

http://www.discogs.com/popular_artists

http://www.mtv.com/bands/m/metal/greatest_metal_bands/071406/index2.jhtml

He showed me only one source. Shouldn't we change it? I saw than you are a sysop, so I though than there was a good idea to ask it fot you. Thank you and sorry for my English

MainBegan (talk) 01:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

The number of sources that you can come up with is pretty much immaterial. It is the quality of sources that count. The gold/platinum certifications are high quality reliable sources and they simply don't add up to anywhere near 100 million. Theresa Knott | token threats 21:45, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Sandbox monitor

I appear to have done something wrong in a sandbox -- see User talk:Tenmei#User:Tenmei/Yōzei

I'm guessing that someone with sandbox monitoring experience might be just what the situation calls for. Unfortunately, I see that you spend your days with young scholars who are a little bit above the age group I had in mind. Can you suggest how to reach out to someone else amongst your Misplaced Pages peers -- someone whose work experience is with a much younger age group? --Tenmei (talk) 17:38, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you are asking me here. I'm happy to help out but please explain more clearly what it is you would like me to do. Theresa Knott | token threats 17:48, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Death in the family

Perhaps this thread can lie fallow for a while. --Tenmei (talk) 04:44, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

London meetup

Hi Theresa, further to yesterday's discussion, I've calculated that you are entitled to display this,

and with a few more edits you get to upgrade to the one with a Post it from Jimbo. WereSpielChequers 22:15, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

<Laughs> Thank you. Theresa Knott | token threats 15:27, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Your note

Thanks for that, Theresa. SlimVirgin 16:22, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

A Rocket to the Moon

Hi, I saw A Rocket to the Moon was A7'ed. This shouldn't have happened, as the group is signed to Fueled by Ramen and has hit the Billboard charts. I'd appreciate it if you could restore it and also restore the redirects and relink the delinked links. Chubbles (talk) 21:05, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Tagging it as A7 was a mistake on my part. What i meant to do was tag it as a recreation of deleted material see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/A Rocket to the Moon. This would need to go to deletion review to be undeleted. Theresa Knott | token threats 21:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll take it there myself now. Theresa Knott | token threats 21:14, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow, this site truly is a hotbed of hiveminded clusterfuckery, with no rhyme or reason for edits or deletions but the whims of a delusional, powerhungry, cunt-tastic few.

Feel free to ban me...I won't be using this site again.

Goddamn, what a clusterfuck of diva personalities and inane, droll bullshit.

Wow. (unsigned IP editor)

So you haven't quite made up your mind yet about Misplaced Pages eh? Theresa Knott | token threats 20:06, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Lead summary

Template:Lead summary has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Fram (talk) 11:15, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

THANK YOU.

For realizing that it ISN'T vandalism.

kashimjamed (talk) 21:07, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Nothing to thank me for. However calling people trolls etc isn't on either, so please reign in your language. Theresa Knott | token threats 06:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Meetup/London 18

The Victoria and Albert Museum Misplaced Pages Loves Art event is February 1 (this Sunday), -not- February 8. Thanks!--Pharos (talk) 02:48, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

True but there will be a meetup on the 8th too. Theresa Knott | token threats 19:03, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Fallow thread

Thank you for your patience in waiting until I could re-visit User:Tenmei#User:Tenmei//Yōzei.

The simplest way to summarize the gravamen of issues is with the words of George Santayana -- "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

Although it may have seemed obscure to you, the fact of the matter was that I didn't understand enough in the context of an edit User:B made -- not so much that there was confusion about matters of right or wrong, but rather more to do with what I just didn't understand well enough. In other words, I would have been amongst those condemned to repeat past mistakes because I couldn't quite see how to mitigate avoidable future problems. --Tenmei (talk) 21:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Token threat

Seeing your signature (love it) compelled me to come here to threaten you with something. Of course, it has to be credible, so here it is: If you continue to edit Misplaced Pages, as you did here ], you'll get older. Gerardw (talk) 01:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Smiles Theresa Knott | token threats 18:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Mohammad Ali Baig, Sir Afsur Jung‎

Hi, You said that Mohammad Ali Baig, Sir Afsur Jung‎ was not eligable for speedy deletion. The tag says that is applies to articles which are about "a real person that does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject." I believe it doesn't, so could you elaborate/direct me so I understand that tag better? Thanks! :) Bladeofgrass (talk) 13:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I tend to err on the side of caution preferring not to delete articles that have potential. It seems to me that someone who has received the CIE, and the MVO is reasonably significant and probably merits an article. Never the less i could easily be wrong, in which case why not take it to AFD instead. That way there is a debate on the topic. Theresa Knott | token threats 19:11, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Bladeofgrass (talk) 19:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

User:Ukufwakfgr

Thank you for your kind comments at WP:AN... unfortunately, Uku continues to be disruptive and hostile. If I was sure that he was in fact a newbie, I would say that he needs some serious mentoring. However, looking at his behavior and edits, I am beginning to question whether he is, in fact, a newbie. I may be wrong, but his editing style just does not strike me as that of a newbie. In any case, I would ask that you (as a disinterested Admin) keep tabs on the situation at Talk:Masonic conspiracy theories. Thanks. Blueboar (talk) 17:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm watching the page for a bit. Theresa Knott | token threats 19:32, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks... and you are right about my "complaints, complaints" thread... it isn't really article related... I have removed it. Blueboar (talk) 19:40, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank _you_ Theresa Knott | token threats 19:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

I also want to thank you for keeping an eye on User:Ukufwakfgr's level of civility. But I agree with User:Blueboar that he is no newbie--he is too quick to cite Misplaced Pages policies for a newbie. He was also too quick on filing admin complaints. I didn't file my first complaint until I'd been editing for nearly two years. (Taivo (talk) 00:05, 4 February 2009 (UTC))

It's more than that... it's the little things... like knowing where to find my block log, and knowing how to format a double link (typing ] so the link read simply Links to avoid. I am not going to accuse him of sock puppetry, since I have no knowledge of what name he used before... but he is clearly an experienced editor editing under a new name. Blueboar (talk) 01:32, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

(ec)I'm probably telling you things you already know, but I think we're dealing with someone who is more interested in what he thinks than what is accurate, and also has a real need to have the last word. Case in point: rather than simply do what is asked of him (which is to restart the discussion), he would rather go on about how he was mistreated, or how we're unfair, or whatever. I don't foresee this having a positive outcome; the average editor usually gets it after the third request or fifth revert. MSJapan (talk) 00:06, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Theresa... Since Uku seems to be upset that you redlinked his name and deleted his user page... and in an attept to have us all get a fresh start... I have extended a hand of friendship and reconsiliation by (re)creating it (and adding the standard Welcome message) as I would do for any redlinked new user without a user page. I hope this was not presuptuous of me (you being an admin and all), I just think it was the right thing to do (especially since the reason why you redlinked him in the first place ... the WP:AN discussion ... is now concluded). Best Blueboar (talk) 01:19, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Im fine with that. I'll give you some advice though. If you want him to start again one point at a time it's best not to reply to previous threads, since you claim they are untenable. I went to archive the older discussion but couldn't because it was still active. You can't have it both ways. Theresa Knott | token threats 06:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah... I see what you mean. Since he is reluctant to choose one topic for discussion, I have taken the bull by the horns and have chosen one for him (it happens to be the one at the top of his list... which also relates to the most recent revision of the article). From now on I will only reply to things he posts in this new focused thread. Blueboar (talk) 15:20, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Comment via WP:COIN: I don't know if this is useful context, but I just had a look through Talk:Masonic conspiracy theories and User talk:Ukufwakfgr, and think you're dealing with a classic case of Misplaced Pages:Civil POV pushing of the filibustering variety. It's always an early warning sign when a new user with a strong viewpoint arrives and immediately turns the Talk page into a struggling ill-structured mess of longwinded procedural and semantic nitpicking.

Exchanges along the lines of:

"Don't do X."

"Where am I doing X? How am I doing X? How is X defined? What's the basis of your right to tell me not to do X?"

are pretty diagnostic too (compare with WP:SOUP). Gordonofcartoon (talk) 10:28, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

There was no explanation of how I engaged in incivility, which does nothing to prevent any future instances. As I understand it, admins on Misplaced Pages are for preventing disruptions, not for dictating from the top-down. You can't say "Because I said so" and expect me to cow-tow like I'm some sort of clueless idiot. An inability to convey ideas results in inefficient communication, which is not conducive to exercising leadership. If you feel that the issues in my case are already documented, then please point me to the relevant documentation. WP:SOUP says: "sometimes they genuinely think that spitting in your soup was fine, because it was their spit and your soup." My "long-winded nitpicking" helped to resolve a dispute about an un-approved edit. In addition, it appears that practically all of the active editors of "Masonic conspiracy theories" are Freemason admins, which is like putting a gang of criminals to build a prison. Ukufwakfgr (talk) 18:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Theresa, AFAIK, none of the editors involved in the page are admins, except for you ofcourse. Blueboar (talk) 19:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I know I'm not an admin and, AFAIK, only Blueboar and myself are Freemasons. MSJapan has openly stated that he is not. Sarek hasn't declared one way or the other. Our membership isn't a secret, but if you look at our edits to the article and our discussion, you will see that we strive for NPOV. (Taivo (talk) 19:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC))

MSJapan's user page contains a Freemason template, and he has been editing this article since 2007, so he has a vested interest. Ukufwakfgr (talk) 19:28, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

So it does. I must have misattributed the "I'm not a member" comment that someone else wrote. (And don't think I didn't notice that you originally wrote "either he's a liar or you're a liar". That's the very kind of incivility that people are noticing here.) (Taivo (talk) 19:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC))

Blueboar said that he quit the York Rite. He has not said what rite he has currently taken, nor do I care. Ukufwakfgr (talk) 19:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Your comment shows that you don't understand the structure of Freemasonry even though you seem by your comments to be a proponent of one or more of the conspiracy theories. The York Rite is not Freemasonry, neither is the Scottish Rite--they are appendant bodies, like extra clubs you can join if you want to spend more time with your Masonic Brothers. The highest degree of Freemasonry is the Master Mason degree (the third degree), there are no higher degrees. Blueboar is still a Master Mason, the highest degree in Masonry, as am I, whether or not we are members of any other appendant bodies. (Taivo (talk) 21:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC))

I think most people who know Freemasonry know the differences between the Blue Lodge and the various rites and bodies. Ukufwakfgr (talk) 21:30, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Guys... I don't think we need to fill up Theresa's talk page with arguments about Masonry (I doubt she cares). It does not matter who is or is not a Mason so long as we edit as Wikipedians. Blueboar (talk) 00:20, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

True true. You are all of course welcome to edit my talkpage anytime but my main concern is that we try to write a good quality and neutral argument, not who is or is not a freemason! Theresa Knott | token threats 13:01, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Skylas

I think a block is in order for User:Galloman and User:Scyllas777. » \ / (⁂) 21:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Trying a brief protect first. Theresa Knott | token threats 21:21, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Typoglycemia

An article that you have been involved in editing, Typoglycemia, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Typoglycemia (2nd nomination). Thank you. RossPatterson (talk) 16:37, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Royal Hospital School

& . -Jrcla2 05:27, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. By the way, I wasn't being curt when I simply posted these links, I just figured not much else needed to be said. -Jrcla2 06:00, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

No problem. You didn't even need to put them here. Adding it to the article was fine by me. Theresa Knott | token threats 06:14, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Quick question actually – now that it's been verified as true, are you going to undo all of your recent edits regarding his contributions? Apparently it wasn't spam and that what he put was completely verifiable, so I was just wondering. -Jrcla2 21:53, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Good lord no! Most of the links he added were simply inappropriate. He was warned and even blocked by another admin for doing it. Take this one as an example. He is not trying to improve that article but merely looking for an excuse to add a link back to the Royal Hospital School. Theresa Knott | token threats 06:03, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah. Point taken. -Jrcla2 08:02, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Tatar Language

I appreciated your involvement in the dispute at Masonic conspiracy theories. Thank you. I am involved in a different problem right now and wish your advice on how to proceed. There is an anonymous IP over at Tatar language who refuses to discuss issues on the Talk page and only uses edit summaries to communicate. There was highly irrelevant religious language inserted in a discussion of the history of the language. I removed it and he continually reinserts it, calling it "fact". We are both way beyond 3RR (since he only "talks" in edit summaries). Thanks (Taivo (talk) 18:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC))

I'm quite surprised that you haven't tried going to his talk page and inviting him to discuss on the article talk page. It is possible that he hasn't even discovered that an article talk page exists! Theresa Knott | token threats 20:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

He's an anonymous IP so he doesn't have a talk page. One of his edit summaries said he doesn't need the talk page since he says everything he needs in the edit summary. There's a partial block on the article now and I've requested a third party to read the issue and comment, so hopefully it will calm down. Thanks for looking at it. (Taivo (talk) 20:37, 9 February 2009 (UTC))

persection

But the word Persection DOES not exist in a standard dictionary ! The one example you provided is an exception, almost a spelling mistake. Actually this is a sly trick to get maximum visitors to these pages...then why not create Persection of Hindus...and Jains...and Sikhs.... Reply on my page please Jon Ascton (talk) 10:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi, again. As you have no objection to the term "persection", I have made a page Persection of hindus, and I am also going to make one each for all other religios minorities who are not much bothered about by people in the West. Kindly let me know you thoughts about it. Regards  Jon Ascton  (talk) 01:29, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

OK. Theresa Knott | token threats 05:54, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

So I'm not an administrator, but...

There is a longrunning discussion about whether the article on masturbation should have pictures, and if so what. User:Walid Osama has removed all the pictures (and added a rant of several pages on the talk page about why having the pictures is comparable to Israel's actions in Gaza) and when I reverted his changes he told me not to change them because I'm not an administrator! (He claims there can't be an existing consensus because he disagrees with it.) But maybe I'm out of line. Since you're an administrator who has proved clueful in other disputes I thought I'd come and ask your opinion on whether it's legitimate to revert his changes during the dispute (rather than the underlying question). The Wednesday Island (talk) 02:43, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Codebreaker Game

I'm stuck on level 5, any hints/tips to get to level 6? --DFS454 (talk) 18:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC) `

Tell me what you have tried so far. Have you read Frequency analysis? that should give you the info you need to crack it. Theresa Knott | token threats 07:46, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Well I first tried to decypher the text in bold using ROT-13 when that didn't work I tried to decrypt everything using ROT-13. Then I gave up . --DFS454 (talk) 16:43, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Rude and/or vague

You have quite often construed my words as "rude." Please review the following and suggest a better way to avoid being perceived as unhelpfully rude.

• User talk:Urashimataro
• Talk:Iwashimizu Hachiman-gū
• User talk:Spokechieves ‎

In an effort to be "diplomatic," I have more often achieved merely "vague" ... and I would appreciate comments about this problem as well. In order to "find my own voice," I obviously need to learn to avoid being perceived as rude and/or vague. --Tenmei (talk) 18:08, 15 February 2009 (UTC)