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Revision as of 11:10, 27 February 2009 editFram (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Page movers, New page reviewers, Pending changes reviewers, Rollbackers, Template editors246,742 edits Poisoning the well: new section← Previous edit Revision as of 14:23, 27 February 2009 edit undoIkip (talk | contribs)59,234 edits moved comments to Wikipedia_talk:Editing_policy#Demote_to_a_guideline thank you for the excellent suggestion, I removed the section, and I apologize.Next edit →
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Please revert. In future, please propose all such major changes on the article talk page before making change. Thanks.--] (]) 00:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC) Please revert. In future, please propose all such major changes on the article talk page before making change. Thanks.--] (]) 00:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

== Poisoning the well ==

This refers to an old comment you made, but which I just now saw? Could you please refrain from commenting on people's supposed motives and stick to the value of their actual comments? You are suggesting that people's opinions can be dismissed becaues they have initiated a lot of AfD's, and/or haven't created enough articles (an argument you wisely did not use in my case, since I created a lot more articles than you did, and none are "articles" which should never have been created in the first place and are now cross-namespace redirects like ] and ].)

You claim in that diff that "a policy which encourages editors to work together before deleting would hinder what editors who delete other editors hard work are trying to doing here": thanks for the blatant mischaracterization. I have worked together with many, many editors, and have achieved great results in doing so. I have also tried to upheld Misplaced Pages's policies in all cases, both when I deleted articles or nominated them for deletion, but also when I denied speedies, restored pages, or suggested to keep articles in AfD debates. Many of the AfD's I started were not "other editor's hard work" but blatant hoaxes, copyright violations, and so on. Other's were about someone's hard work, which was just not suited for WIkipedia. We are not a free webhost, even though we have nearly unlimited space: we are an encyclopedia, and not everything is suited for inclusion. To decide what is and isn't suited, we have discussions, and I abide by the consensus if it follows our core policies (I have , if I recall correctly, ''never'' started a DRV when an AfD by me did not end in a delete, and I have also tried to incorporate the decision from one AfD in my next nominations).

I really hope that you will start discussing things in a more friendly and less personalized manner. ] (]) 11:10, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

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I have pressed the "Save page" button, over 45,907 times, making me editor number 320 for number of edits.

I now have 20+ barnstars, but like a good monkey, I had to press the little button 2,869 times before I got my first prize.  :(

The BLP Barnstar
I hereby award you this shiny barnstar for your efforts to alert Wikiprojects about how to locate BLPs for their projects and invite their participation in the discussion that would affect potentially all projects with a mass deletion (50,000 by most estimates) of "unsourced" BLPs. Your notice was such a good idea and sharing those links will help push some of those most familiar with the topics to help the articles at risk. Keep up the great work! -- Banjeboi 12:43, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
To the artist formerly known as Ikip, for coming up with Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons/Contest as a productive means to tackling the backlog of unreferenced BLPs. Let's focus our energy and get this puppy off the ground J04n(talk page) 03:00, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For perpetually defending Misplaced Pages's intended and most valuable purpose: catalogging human knowledge. I hope you had a nice Valentine's Day! Sincerely, A Nobody 00:29, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Defender of the Noble Spirt of Misplaced Pages
For your noble and unbreakable spirit of inclusion, mentorship and fraternity towards your fellow editors and the Wikipedian community. --Grancafé (talk) 02:01, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Barnstar of the Lamp For The Huddled Masses
For your pure intentioned dedication to speaking for those who do not speak, the wretched refuse of the teeming shores of the internet, providing a lamp of illumination. ----Milowent (talk) 03:20, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For all your work in these difficult days: notifying Wikiprojects, discussing on the RfC's, exposing rogue editors/admins behaviour and also for this exceptional comment, which definitely proves what is the real problem of Misplaced Pages these days. We need more brilliant editors like you! Cyclopia 13:08, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
The Guidance Barnstar
Hi Okip, this barnstar is for your tireless efforts in helping, orienting and encouraging newcomers and novice editors, like me. Thanks, --Grancafé (talk) 15:35, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Grand Coffee Vizir Barnstar
For your generousous hard work, courage and distinguished dedication to the noble cause of coffee, you are conferred this Grand Coffee Vizir award of high distinction and accomplishment. Congratulations! --Grancafé (talk) 18:23, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
The Barnstar of European Merit

I can not thank you enough for the work you put into Albania-Serbia relations, there is no doubt in my mind that you have earned this barnstar. -Marcusmax(speak) 01:55, 16 April 2009 (UTC) this WikiAward was given to Ikip by Marcusmax(speak) on 01:55, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar may be awarded to those that show a pattern of going the extra mile to be nice, without being asked

Even though I almost always seem to disagree with you, I admire all the hard work you put in to whatever controversy seems to be engulfing Misplaced Pages this week! HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat? 17:25, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Awarded 20 January 2007 to Travb for his valiant defense of  
the Misplaced Pages mission to produce a neutral encyclopedia. Athaenara
The Article Rescue Barnstar
For your tireless effort to save notable articles at AfD. Honestly, your commitment to fighting unnecessary deletions is extraordinary! SMSpivey (talk) 02:27, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
This user is a Wikidraco scholasticus. You deserve this Wikidraco scholasticus award for taking on current AfD policy at Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion#Deletion_wars:_I_propose_a_novel_solution - and for having the patience to plough through AfD looking for articles worth saving. --Philcha (talk) 13:09, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
The Philippine Barnstar
... for your advice and assistance in the development of a Philippine-related article. -- Sultan-Commander (talk) 10:51, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
I award you this barnstar for your continued and tireless efforts to keep Misplaced Pages a welcome place for all editors... from your graciousness and guidence to newcomers who might feel "put off" when their own initial efforts end up at AfD... to your efforts to maintain the integrity of the project and its articles. The job is never-ending, and yet you continue... even when your efforts are sometimes considered as overzealous. Keep up the good fight, but with patience... as Don Quixote is not the only one to find honor in tilting at windmills. Schmidt, 20:46, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
A Lucky Penny
In the spirit of funding that is sweeping the country this penny is offered to Editor:Ikip for his incredible WikiWorld endeavors:----Buster7 (talk) 23:43, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
The Working Man's Barnstar
For all your hard work keeping an eye on Misplaced Pages talk:Notability (fiction)#Final adoption as a guideline and following up with the people who have commented there. Politizer /contribs 02:17, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages Motivation Award Misplaced Pages Motivation Award
have noticed the announcements at several pages and applaud your courtesy in sharing the news that such a discussion is going on, as thousands of affected editors would otherwise have no idea that the fates of so many articles was being determined or where to even look for such a discussion. Well done. I am surprised that others have not themselves been as proactive in seeking a wider consensus for such an important and far-reaching proposal. This thing could impact nearly three quarters of a million articles. Good job!!! Wow. Schmidt, 18:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Articles I have created
Using: http://toolserver.org/~sql/created.php Tool. Tool does not count templates.
  1. A_New_Life_(The_Outer_Limits)
  2. A_Test_of_the_News
  3. Template:AbUS --archive box for American terrorism page.
  4. Abdellatif_Laabi
  5. After_the_Empire:_The_Breakdown_of_the_American_Order
  6. American_civil_religion
  7. American_Expeditionary_Force_Siberia
  8. Army_Foreign_Intelligence_Assistance_Program
  9. Association_of_Inclusionist_Wikipedians
  10. Axis_of_Evil_(film)
  11. Balloon_effect
  12. Bell_Trade_Act
  13. Benevolent Assimilation
  14. Benevolent_Assimilation_(book)
  15. The Book of All Flesh as RWV.
  16. Calder v. Bull as RWV. Boring law school case.
  17. Case-Church_Amendment
  18. Charles_Henry_Dietrich
  19. CIA_and_Contras_cocaine_trafficking_in_the_US
  20. Clark_Amendment
  21. Commission_on_Industrial_Relations
  22. Commonwealth_v._Pullis
  23. Control_(2004_film)
  24. Costa_Rican_Civil_War
  25. DeLima v. Bidwell
  26. Democracy_in_Marxism
  27. Domestic_analogy
  28. Dreamland_(2007_film)
  29. Drew_Griffin CNN reporter
  30. Duck_Hook Nixon threat, called for the possibly-nuclear bombing of military and economic targets in and around Hanoi, the mining of Haiphong and other ports
  31. Edward_Atkinson
  32. Enemy_Nations
  33. Estate_of_Rodriquez_v._Drummond_Co.
  34. Fablehaven children's books.
  35. Firefight_at_Yechon:_Courage_and_Racism_in_the_Korean_War
  36. G._Robert_Blakey
  37. Green_report
  38. Guenter_Lewy
  39. Heroism Research Group
  40. Hitler's_Willing_Executioners
  41. Hughes-Ryan_Act
  42. Human_rights_in_Colombia
  43. Identical_Strangers...twins were given up by their mentally ill mother and separated as infants...met for the first time in 2004 at the age of 35.
  44. Intelligence_Oversight_Act
  45. International_Journal_of_Political_Economy, socialist perspective acedemic economic journal.
  46. Is the Holocaust Unique?
  47. Jacob_H._Smith
  48. Joseph_Lafayette_Rawlins
  49. Julian_Codman
  50. Kerry_Committee_report
  51. Kill_the_Messenger
  52. Kill_the_Messenger_(film)
  53. Klaus_Mehnert
  54. La_Violencia
  55. Leahy_Law
  56. Little_Eichmanns
  57. Lodge_Committee
  58. Looking_for_Love_(film) a 1964 romantic musical-comedy movie
  59. Michel_Garder
  60. My_Country,_My_Country
  61. Onyx_Project
  62. Operation_WASHTUB
  63. Operation_Whitecoat
  64. PCCC
  65. Plan_Cobra
  66. Power_Play_(1978_film)
  67. Picard v. Barry Pontiac-Buick, Inc. 1995 Rhode Island Supreme Court case often cited in tort law text books to explain the legal concept of battery.
  68. Predictions_of_Soviet_collapse
  69. Problems_of_Communism_(journal)
  70. Psychological_Operations_in_Guerrilla_Warfare
  71. San_Francisco_Call
  72. Senate_Document
  73. Simon_Sisters
  74. Sixto_Lopez
  75. Talk:American terrorism/Past disagreements
  76. Template:AmericanEmpire
  77. Template:Colombia conflict
  78. Template:Soatitles
  79. Template:Stay focused as RWV. This talk page is not a web blog.
  80. Template:U.S. Congressional opposition to war
  81. The_Saint_Patrick's_Day_Four
  82. Sturges_v._Crowninshield as RWV, dealt with the constitutionality of New York creating bankruptcy laws and retroactively applying those laws.
  83. Theodore_Schroeder
  84. They_Came_Back
  85. Thomas_MacDonald_Patterson
  86. Thousand_Days_War
  87. Timeline_of_labor_issues_and_events
  88. Timeline_of_Philippine-American_War
  89. Tom_Engelhardt the creator of the Nation Institute's tomdispatch.com, a liberal web blog.
  90. Total_Denial a 2006 documentary film about fifteen Burmese villagers going up against oil giants UNOCAL and TOTAL as they build the Yadana Pipeline.
  91. Trade_unions_in_the_United_Kingdom
  92. TV-6_(Russia)
  93. TVS_(Russia)
  94. U.S._Army_and_CIA_interrogation_manuals
  95. Union of Banana Exporting Countries as RWV. Attempt to create OPEC like cartel for bananas.
  96. United_States_Senate_Committee_on_the_Philippines
  97. United_States_v._Stanley the United States Supreme Court found that a serviceman could not file a tort action against the federal government, even though the government secretly administered doses of LSD to the serviceman as part of an experimental program, because his injuries were found by the lower court to be service-related.
  98. War_Feels_Like_War
  99. War_referendum a type of referendum in which citizens decide whether a nation should go to war.
  100. William_Lindsay_Scruggs (1836 - 1912) a scholar of South American foreign policy and U.S. ambassador to Colombia and Venezuela.
  101. The Wrecking Crew: How Conservatives Rule
...and here's an honorary enigma rotor for ferreting out a good solution. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:47, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Travb! I now give you a WikiCookie from the Misplaced Pages cookie jar! for your initiative to develop and create a new very useful template for a Colombia related article! great job! User:F3rn4nd0 06:47, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
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The Original Barnstar
For keeping both your integrity and a cool head in the most trying of circumstances. Ireneshusband 05:19, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Updated DYK query On 27 February, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ludlow Amendment, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.
The Guidance Barnstar
Ikip, you have helped me in many ways over the past few weeks, thank you once again for your assistance. Marcusmax(speak) 23:00, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
Awarded to Ikip for volunteering to cleanse the Augean stables. —S Marshall /Cont 21:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
For your elegant and clear solution to some vexing situations I hereby award you this shiny barnstar you can play catch with or trade for superpowers or even put on a display shelf for all to behold and admire. The Article Rescue Squadron is a band of troupers who work in stressful environments to save content worth keeping and your help is very much appreciated. -- Banjeboi 11:52, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
This is an excellent idea for Foreign relations of Argentina by country to deal with the minor bilateral relationships, just 1 suggestion for improvement can we sort by continent/region? LibStar (talk) 09:19, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you very much for your successful efforts in strengthening the content and character of Misplaced Pages. Your work is greatly appreciated. Ecoleetage (talk) 19:15, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
I hearby award this barnstar to Ikip due to his heroic campaigning for the noble cause of including valuable and interesting articles in the peoples encyclopaedia. FeydHuxtable (talk) 16:09, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thankyou for being so nice to me! ScythreContribs 15:52, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
I hereby award this Barnstar to Ikip for his excellent idea to reduce conflict by pre-empting potentially heated AfD debates with a suggestion that articles be userfied, so new users can still work to improve their work, while deletionists are happy as problem articles are removed from mainspace. Everyone's a winner! FeydHuxtable (talk) 10:42, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

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The Original Barnstar
For cutting process, getting crap out of mainspace and helping newbies not to feel bitten all at the same time, a singular achievement. Guy (Help!) 20:42, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
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User:C3: Colorectal Cancer Coalition

Instead of hassling me, why don't you go take a look at what happened to User:C3: Colorectal Cancer Coalition. OK they created a promotional article and I tagged it for deletion but they also said they were willing to adjust the article. I thought perhaps I could help because there do seem to be some reliable sources about it, but when I get back I find that they've been indefinitely blocked for "spam", which seems pretty fricken' brutal if you ask me. Nerfari (talk) 21:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Covert US Regime Change Action

You changed the title of this article without consulting anyone. The title before your changed it covered all such actions by the US, and did not focus on the CIA. Since there are secret operations, sometimes it's difficult to point to any particular US agency. Also, the article should not focus on the CIA as an institution but on the actual operations and their effects on the ground.

Please revert. In future, please propose all such major changes on the article talk page before making change. Thanks.--NYCJosh (talk) 00:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC)