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| ** Maybe: The transformation of pepper's role in cuisine over the years. In both Roman and Medieval times, it wasn't really ever just sprinkled on food, but was usually cooked into some variety of pepper sauce or another, with a base of possibly ] or ], ] (what!? we don't have a verjus article?) or vinegar. In some ways, it was treated more like we treat ] seeds today. | ** Maybe: The transformation of pepper's role in cuisine over the years. In both Roman and Medieval times, it wasn't really ever just sprinkled on food, but was usually cooked into some variety of pepper sauce or another, with a base of possibly ] or ], ] (what!? we don't have a verjus article?) or vinegar. In some ways, it was treated more like we treat ] seeds today. | ||
| :Hopefully I will get these in there while this FAC is still active. —] (]) 00:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC) | :Hopefully I will get these in there while this FAC is still active. —] (]) 00:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC) | ||
| ::*'''Comment''': Please keep in mind that an article can ''never be perfect''. Your objection more sounds like your own ambition as an editor than a factor truly disqualifies the current article from the featured article status. I admire your perfectionism and I hope you (and some others) will be able to fix those things soon but even if they can't be done it does not mean this article cannot become a featured article. --] 00:27, 13 November 2005 (UTC) | |||
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Black pepper
A comprehensive article, detailing history of the condiment most of us consume everyday. Since it has been made a good article major improvements have been done by User:Bunchofgrapes. --BorgQueen 20:24, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- Quick note to any copyeditors out there: British English spellings, please. I'm American, so I'm sure most of my new text has a lot of errors in that area, but I found the article with British spelling and I intend to keep it that way. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:05, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, Canadian spellings also, as they are the same as British. Anyway, on to the main topic. I feel as though you have included too many images in this article, and would request that you remove at least one. Otherwise the article is very informative, well-written, NPOV, and spicy! Support! --Hollow Wilerding 22:09, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- Okay, I removed one image. --BorgQueen 22:25, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- Support - Let's cook up a meal on the Wiki! --HappyCamper 22:13, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
- Support. Well-flavoured article. Wim van Dorst 23:45, 12 November 2005 (UTC).
- Object. (This is Bunchofgrapes, the main editor for the article recently: sorry if this objection is poor form of any sort, but it's well-intentioned and I hope to address my objections soon.) The article isn't comprehensive yet. Specifically:
- More on pepper's history outside of Europe. Especially China, whose history of pepper usage may go back to the first few centuries CE. Right now there's a European bias.
- The question of pepper's popularity, both historical and current. Historically, why were people willing to go to such lengths and pay such prices to bring these little hot dried seeds thousands and thousand of miles, even during the most shut-in days of Europe's dark ages? How and why did pepper wind up as our "default" spice today? There are no good answers to these questions, but I still believe the article needs to deal with them a little.
- Maybe: The transformation of pepper's role in cuisine over the years. In both Roman and Medieval times, it wasn't really ever just sprinkled on food, but was usually cooked into some variety of pepper sauce or another, with a base of possibly garum or liquamen, verjus (what!? we don't have a verjus article?) or vinegar. In some ways, it was treated more like we treat mustard seeds today.
- Hopefully I will get these in there while this FAC is still active. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 00:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: Please keep in mind that an article can never be perfect. Your objection more sounds like your own ambition as an editor than a factor truly disqualifies the current article from the featured article status. I admire your perfectionism and I hope you (and some others) will be able to fix those things soon but even if they can't be done it does not mean this article cannot become a featured article. --BorgQueen 00:27, 13 November 2005 (UTC)