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Hello I am Hans Antel an occupational psychologist

I studied NLP under Grinder's teachings. Luckilly for me and unlucky for my employer, I did not have to pay for the expensive study. I stayed open to the teachings and tried to apply them wherever I could during my job for months afterwards and found them to be lacking compared to the other techniques and applications that I had learned throughout my undergraduate training in traditional scientific methods. I also attended conference meetings with other NLP enthusiasts in Europe (especially France Denmark and Germany). I could still not get any real knowledge or effective technique from them, and they seemed to be very good at explaining away their failures. I did make further studies and (well I knew the theories were highly wrong because I have a Master degree in psychology), and I found that the methods did mainly not work in experimental testing also. Regarding the engram term, European NLP enthusiasts do find it useful and one of them explained to me that the word (as a nominalization) was useful for getting people to believe that words can make permanent changes in the brain. He said that engram was useful because it is convincing. I have also heard asian NLP enthusiasts talking using the engram term. Its a psychology word, so why not! I have also been watching this discussion and really NLP users do not have anything to add apart from stories. That is the way NLP has developed. Testing gives a very negative view and that is how my other peers see NLP. Its actually turned out to be quite a comedy system of therapy, but not intentionally. I am grateful for the studies presented here, and I think Platt and I have a lot of experience in common. I also found the Von Bergen reference to be extremely useful. I wrote a report on NLP for publication at my local training authority and I also emailed it and other research to Alice De Grey. It is negative in conclusion, but the research is balanced according to the guidelines of my professional body.

If you like NLP, then good for you! Just don't expect your stories or opinion to be published in an encyclopedia. Hans AntelHansAntel 03:27, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

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Engrams

I noticed that you have added more references to engrams on the neuro-linguistic programmming page in line with HeadleyDown, JPLogan, etc.. What definition of engram are you using and what sources are you using to connect it with NLP? --Comaze 02:35, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Arbitration

HansAntel,

A complaint has been made against you in regard to the Nuero-linguistic programming article, with a request for arbitration. The basis of the case is that you are either a sock puppet, or otherwise involved with, breach of wikipedia policy and disruption to that article.

The request can be found at: Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration

FT2 09:38, 13 November 2005 (UTC)