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| Comical. ] 10:37, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| :Oh, and apperently (google says), "Pavel Novak graduated the Academy of Fine Arts in Prague in 1990." I wasn't even in high school then. I've never been to central Europe, nor do I speak Czech. Please elaborate on your fascinating theory. ] 10:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ::As for (who is doing the) roleplaying, I have always been consistent in my support for revolution and armed struggle. Surely you are not suddenly at a loss for words to explain the indictment you copy and pasted in several places. ] 10:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| :This is rich coming from ] aka ], the bourgeois who roleplays a progressive. -] 10:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| ::Ooh, I'm shaken. It's all about being rich or serving the rich for your type. Who is "Pavel Novak" and whose sockpuppet are you? The dark forces of the reaction hover over you like a shadow. ] 10:33, 29 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Kacha HaChayim. Speaking of dark forces Elsie.. You portray yourself as a socialist revolutionary, yet you're never wavering in your support of SlimVirgin - the single most ] administrator on this project. Why is that? And ''even'' after with the utmost condescension! SV has gotten rid of hundreds of leftwing editors and you cheer her on, which means you're either suffering from some serious cognitive dissonance, or you're a fraud. -] 02:32, 31 May 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :''I'm never wavering in my support? The single most neoliberal editor? Hundreds of leftwing editors?'' Where is the evidence for any of this? ] 22:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::The real fraud, then, yet-to-be-named sockpuppet, is your invention (or distortion) of all these claims, which are grounded in nothing. ] 22:49, 1 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::RE: Carr, she was right, I did pretty much mean "I need administrative intervention with this user, are any of you biased going to help me?" Try to assume good faith and distinguish satire from condecention, which my following reply . ] 22:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| This edit summary: "Does the word "Hasbara" convey any additional meaning besides the fact that it translates as "the act of explaining"?) " does not explain your edit/ Please clarify why you reverted or I will have to revert your revert (hate to do that but without proper explnation it will be the only option) ] 11:31, 1 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Edit summary .Like the term '']'', the term '']'' can't be explained by simply translating the word. "Even among Israelis, the term "Hafrada" – separation or apartheid in Hebrew – has entered the mainstream lexicon, despite strident denials by the Jewish state that it is engaged in any such process." It's my belief that when ''hafrada'' is used (by Settlers, Hamas, et al) it's not only about the barrier, but about all measures that are taken to separate the Palestinians from the Israelis. And Zeq, don't become a dogmatist - you have more options than you think you have. -] 12:41, 1 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Indefinite block warning== | |||
| Also, this is a warning that ] of users is grounds for an indefinite block. This notwithstanding your comical failure to expose my personal details (i.e. my name predates Latin), presumably to result in real-life harrassment. ] 23:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Never said that Elsie was your real name. Don't presume too much, the only real-life harassment you should be exposed to is by your own consciousness for helping to advance rightwing ] and ] in a corrupt and deceitful manner. Seeing that you have more "administrative power" than me and that you're probably not shy to exercise those powers, I think that I'm done here. Oh yeah, my name predates Latin more than yours.. -] 00:08, 2 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::You are unable to ground those accusations in anything, that's why you're withdrawing, because they're false and you ran out of ideas beyond ad nauseum, not because I have more administrative power (which I havne't used so as to allow you to respond with anything remotely substantive). As for pretending "AKA Pavel Novak" wasn't an attempt to reveal personal info (otherwise you'd pick a non-blank article for an example people could understand, no?) is as laughable as your diversionary "my name predates Latin more than yours" — I don't care what your name is or what it predates, though I am interested in what was/is your original Misplaced Pages account. ] 00:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::Least you could do after all that psuedoleftist posturing is tell me which you had in mind when you thought you were revealing my personal details. It's a mystery! I did find your transperent "Elsie" smokescreen mildly amusing, though. ] 01:27, 2 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::I am able to ground those accusations in . Surely it's not me but ''you yourself'' Shirley that you are trying to convince. Try to remember all the kids who will starve to death this summer because of ], ], ], etc around the world and on Misplaced Pages. Information on Pavel Novak (you), Ludmila Novakova (SlimVirgin) and Vaclav (Jayjg) can be found . Now I really must withdraw before you start feeling like a big boy and begin to block, ban and whathaveyou with your administrative powers. -] 05:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :::You can ground your claims, you say, but you're not actually going to do it, right? Because you're afraid of being blocked? That's displaying a lot of courage on your part, I must say! So you like Gladiator movies. I'm certainly not trying to convince ''you'' of anything. What I am doing is answering your flimsy charges for the record. On that front, the least you could do is stop using starving children to promote your own distinctly ''psuedo''progressive agenda. Of course you would like for me to fall on my sword never to be seen again, by writing, for ex., that the ] (that I authored today, thanks for noticing) is designed to literally take food and medicine from the hungry to the pockets of the super-rich. What would a comic book-defering (I would have never gotten that, btw, next time try to have a link to something, anything – since I tend to assume the worse about provocateurs such as yourself), Luxemburgian nationalist know or do about these things? Crash and burn is your suggestion to me. Thanks but no thanks! And I could have blocked you with your first ''rich'' attack, but I'm still waiting to see if you have anything critical to say. Well, not really. But I'm interested in seeing more of your "cognitive dissonance" psychological warfare techniques. ] 10:18, 2 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Departure== | |||
| -] 05:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :<s>Again? If you say so. What's next for you, Pavel? A new attack account where you criticize libertarians for not having enough starving children? I'd bother appealing to your conscience, if I thought they'd be any use invoking it. Your next ] venture awaits. ] 10:18, 2 June 2006 (UTC)</s> | |||
| ==Retraction, but with criticism== | |||
| I looked more closely into your contributions and I retract my opinion that this account was created merely to troll, though obviously it's a sockpuppet/new attack. But what do you expect? If you engage me first with such a despicable attack, with some obscure Pavel Novak reference, which I still don't get (cultural gap there), do not expect me afford you a great benefit of the doubt. As you did not do for all that I have written in two years. The provocation you directed is a sign of political immaturity. Had you tried engaging in some sort of polemic with me directly, you could have (from your vantage point and perception of myself) really put me on the spot. Anyway, I think you critically misunderstand and jump too quickly to oversimplified conclusions. You're not the first (nor undoubtedly will you be the last) leftist who has made such claims against me (latest one was ], but there have been others) and I've yet to fail in persuading them of the integrity of my revolutionary line. Not just with respect to that, I'm always willing to explain myself, but for that to happen you need to meet me half way, or it simply isn't a stable (if at all) dialogue. There is only one ] for me, and she is red. ] 11:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
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A luxemburgian nationalist
Comical. El_C 10:37, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, and apperently (google says), "Pavel Novak graduated the Academy of Fine Arts in Prague in 1990." I wasn't even in high school then. I've never been to central Europe, nor do I speak Czech. Please elaborate on your fascinating theory. El_C 10:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- As for (who is doing the) roleplaying, I have always been consistent in my support for revolution and armed struggle. Surely you are not suddenly at a loss for words to explain the indictment you copy and pasted in several places. El_C 10:57, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Continuation
(the three following comments moved here from User talk:SlimVirgin)
- This is rich coming from El_C aka Pavel Novak, the bourgeois who roleplays a progressive. -Dna4salE 10:24, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
- Ooh, I'm shaken. It's all about being rich or serving the rich for your type. Who is "Pavel Novak" and whose sockpuppet are you? The dark forces of the reaction hover over you like a shadow. El_C 10:33, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Kacha HaChayim. Speaking of dark forces Elsie.. You portray yourself as a socialist revolutionary, yet you're never wavering in your support of SlimVirgin - the single most neoliberal administrator on this project. Why is that? And even after she treats you with the utmost condescension! SV has gotten rid of hundreds of leftwing editors and you cheer her on, which means you're either suffering from some serious cognitive dissonance, or you're a fraud. -Dna4salE 02:32, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- I'm never wavering in my support? The single most neoliberal editor? Hundreds of leftwing editors? Where is the evidence for any of this? El_C 22:43, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- The real fraud, then, yet-to-be-named sockpuppet, is your invention (or distortion) of all these claims, which are grounded in nothing. El_C 22:49, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- RE: Carr, she was right, I did pretty much mean "I need administrative intervention with this user, are any of you biased going to help me?" Try to assume good faith and distinguish satire from condecention, which my following reply addressed. El_C 22:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- The real fraud, then, yet-to-be-named sockpuppet, is your invention (or distortion) of all these claims, which are grounded in nothing. El_C 22:49, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Your edit summary
This edit summary: "Does the word "Hasbara" convey any additional meaning besides the fact that it translates as "the act of explaining"?) " does not explain your edit/ Please clarify why you reverted or I will have to revert your revert (hate to do that but without proper explnation it will be the only option) Zeq 11:31, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Edit summary here.Like the term hasbara, the term hafrada can't be explained by simply translating the word. "Even among Israelis, the term "Hafrada" – separation or apartheid in Hebrew – has entered the mainstream lexicon, despite strident denials by the Jewish state that it is engaged in any such process." It's my belief that when hafrada is used (by Settlers, Hamas, et al) it's not only about the barrier, but about all measures that are taken to separate the Palestinians from the Israelis. And Zeq, don't become a dogmatist - you have more options than you think you have. -Dna4salE 12:41, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Indefinite block warning
Also, this is a warning that revealing personal details of users is grounds for an indefinite block. This notwithstanding your comical failure to expose my personal details (i.e. my name predates Latin), presumably to result in real-life harrassment. El_C 23:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
- Never said that Elsie was your real name. Don't presume too much, the only real-life harassment you should be exposed to is by your own consciousness for helping to advance rightwing viewpoints and persons in a corrupt and deceitful manner. Seeing that you have more "administrative power" than me and that you're probably not shy to exercise those powers, I think that I'm done here. Oh yeah, my name predates Latin more than yours.. -Dna4salE 00:08, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- You are unable to ground those accusations in anything, that's why you're withdrawing, because they're false and you ran out of ideas beyond ad nauseum, not because I have more administrative power (which I havne't used so as to allow you to respond with anything remotely substantive). As for pretending "AKA Pavel Novak" wasn't an attempt to reveal personal info (otherwise you'd pick a non-blank article for an example people could understand, no?) is as laughable as your diversionary "my name predates Latin more than yours" — I don't care what your name is or what it predates, though I am interested in what was/is your original Misplaced Pages account. El_C 00:48, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- Least you could do after all that psuedoleftist posturing is tell me which Pavel Novak you had in mind when you thought you were revealing my personal details. It's a mystery! I did find your transperent "Elsie" smokescreen mildly amusing, though. El_C 01:27, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- I am able to ground those accusations in this. Surely it's not me but you yourself Shirley that you are trying to convince. Try to remember all the kids who will starve to death this summer because of Minarchists, Libertarians, Randites, etc around the world and on Misplaced Pages. Information on Pavel Novak (you), Ludmila Novakova (SlimVirgin) and Vaclav (Jayjg) can be found here. Now I really must withdraw before you start feeling like a big boy and begin to block, ban and whathaveyou with your administrative powers. -Dna4salE 05:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- You can ground your claims, you say, but you're not actually going to do it, right? Because you're afraid of being blocked? That's displaying a lot of courage on your part, I must say! So you like Gladiator movies. I'm certainly not trying to convince you of anything. What I am doing is answering your flimsy charges for the record. On that front, the least you could do is stop using starving children to promote your own distinctly psuedoprogressive agenda. Of course you would like for me to fall on my sword never to be seen again, by writing, for ex., that the World Economic Forum on Africa (that I authored today, thanks for noticing) is designed to literally take food and medicine from the hungry to the pockets of the super-rich. What would a comic book-defering (I would have never gotten that, btw, next time try to have a link to something, anything – since I tend to assume the worse about provocateurs such as yourself), Luxemburgian nationalist know or do about these things? Crash and burn is your suggestion to me. Thanks but no thanks! And I could have blocked you with your first rich attack, but I'm still waiting to see if you have anything critical to say. Well, not really. But I'm interested in seeing more of your "cognitive dissonance" psychological warfare techniques. El_C 10:18, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- I am able to ground those accusations in this. Surely it's not me but you yourself Shirley that you are trying to convince. Try to remember all the kids who will starve to death this summer because of Minarchists, Libertarians, Randites, etc around the world and on Misplaced Pages. Information on Pavel Novak (you), Ludmila Novakova (SlimVirgin) and Vaclav (Jayjg) can be found here. Now I really must withdraw before you start feeling like a big boy and begin to block, ban and whathaveyou with your administrative powers. -Dna4salE 05:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Departure
Goodbye -Dna4salE 05:42, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Again? If you say so. What's next for you, Pavel? A new attack account where you criticize libertarians for not having enough starving children? I'd bother appealing to your conscience, if I thought they'd be any use invoking it. Your next hypocritical venture awaits. El_C 10:18, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Retraction, but with criticism
I looked more closely into your contributions and I retract my opinion that this account was created merely to troll, though obviously it's a sockpuppet/new attack. But what do you expect? If you engage me first with such a despicable attack, with some obscure Pavel Novak reference, which I still don't get (cultural gap there), do not expect me afford you a great benefit of the doubt. As you did not do for all that I have written in two years. The provocation you directed is a sign of political immaturity. Had you tried engaging in some sort of polemic with me directly, you could have (from your vantage point and perception of myself) really put me on the spot. Anyway, I think you critically misunderstand and jump too quickly to oversimplified conclusions. You're not the first (nor undoubtedly will you be the last) leftist who has made such claims against me (latest one was Dervish Tsaddik, but there have been others) and I've yet to fail in persuading them of the integrity of my revolutionary line. Not just with respect to that, I'm always willing to explain myself, but for that to happen you need to meet me half way, or it simply isn't a stable (if at all) dialogue. There is only one Luxemburg for me, and she is red. El_C 11:34, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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