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The Maiden City

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Request concerning The Maiden City

User requesting enforcement

BigDunc 17:36, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested

The Maiden City (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Arbitration case whose sanctions are to be enforced

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles

Sanction or remedy that has been violated

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles#Final remedies for AE case

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy

Revert #1 Revert #2 Revert #3

Explanation how these edits violate the sanction or remedy at issue

3 reverts in less than 24 hours, which is a violation of 1RR

Enforcement action requested (block, topic ban or other sanction)

Unsure

Additional comments

Informed of sanctions here. Editor is also under investigation for sockpuppetry see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/The Maiden City.

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Here

Discussion concerning The Maiden City

Per my comment at Discussion concerning Mr Taz below, I am not sure that section is an enforceable remedy. I will ask the editor who wrote it, Rlevse (talk · contribs), to explain.  Sandstein  20:23, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

The link Sandstein is referring to is not part of the formal case remedy voted on by the arbs in the case. It is part background and part observation that I wrote and should be treated as such. It's in the log section, not the decision section. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:26, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Result concerning The Maiden City

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Mr Taz

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Request concerning Mr Taz

User requesting enforcement

O Fenian (talk) 17:44, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested

Mr Taz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Arbitration case whose sanctions are to be enforced

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles

Sanction or remedy that has been violated

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles#Final remedies for AE case

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy

Version reverted to revert one revert two revert three (third revert made after being notified of this discussion)

Explanation how these edits violate the sanction or remedy at issue

Violation of 1RR, two reverts in less than 24 hours

Enforcement action requested (block, topic ban or other sanction)

Discretion of administrators dealing with this

Additional comments

Despite me explaining on the talk page why his edits were problematic (see Talk:North-South divide in the United Kingdom#Ireland and map I was reverted without an edit summary or explanation on the talk page. Editor was made aware of the sanctions here, and it is not unreasonable for an editor to accept that adding unsourced and contentious information about The Troubles to another article falls under the scope of the sanctions without a further notification.

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Discussion concerning Mr Taz

The case certainly seems actionable. But I'd appreciate it if someone could explain to me why the section Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/The Troubles#Final remedies for AE case is an enforceable arbitral remedy. It does not seem to be part of a decision voted upon by the committee and appears to be drafted with less than the usual care.  Sandstein  20:21, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Also, O Fenian, you have made two rapid reverts on the same page, and . Why should you not be sanctioned too?  Sandstein  20:21, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

From what I have been informed, if you make two edits in a row it is one revert, as there is no literal difference in making one edit or two edits in sequence. That is what the wording at WP:3RR says too "A series of consecutive saved revert edits by one user with no intervening edits by another user counts as one revert". O Fenian (talk) 20:26, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

True.  Sandstein  20:40, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

The link Sandstein is referring to is not part of the formal case remedy voted on by the arbs in the case. It is part background and part observation that I wrote and should be treated as such. It's in the log section, not the decision section. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:25, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Result concerning Mr Taz

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Bov

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Request concerning Bov

User requesting enforcement

Jehochman 13:03, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested

Bov (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Arbitration case whose sanctions are to be enforced

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/September 11 conspiracy theories

Sanction or remedy that has been violated

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/September 11 conspiracy theories#Discretionary_sanctions

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy

and

Explanation how these edits violate the sanction or remedy at issue

Repeatedly violating WP:V and WP:UNDUE to add Truther propaganda to Misplaced Pages. Feigning ignorance of policy, after having edited here for more than three years, and been sanctioned previously for violations of WP:ARB9/11.

Enforcement action requested (block, topic ban or other sanction)

Indefinite topic ban

Additional comments

Discussion concerning Bov

Firstly I request that, unlike some previous 911 ARBCOM cases, an uninvolved admin handle this case.
The first four diffs Jehochman provided are no more than the same two sentences with multiple references, consistently reverted by a group of editors with a particular POV, that refer to a peer reviewed paper on findings that are used by the major proponents of the controlled demolition theory to support their claims. The edit contains no OR, POV or comment and as such is entirely compliant with the article subject. At worst Bov has technically broken his revert restriction while those reverting the edit are possibly themselves guilty of a violation of the 911ARBCom. The last of the diffs is a talk page request for an explanation as to why the edit is being reverted. The only reply Bov is given to this request is "I have requested arbitration enforcement" by Jehochman who has a record of such POV behaviour as a first action in preference to either first warning an editor if concerned or answering such questions. This case needs to be viewed in light of the fact that the article name was recently changed from Controlled demolition hypothesis for the collapse of the World Trade Center to the more inclusive title World Trade Center controlled demolition conspiracy theories. Care should be taken to actually check the edits relationship to the article for the determination of good faith. Wayne (talk) 15:09, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

You risk a sanction yourself when making snide comments on this board. Who are you suggesting has acted inappropriately here? If nobody, zip it. Jehochman 16:43, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Comment Looking at Misplaced Pages:ARB9/11, Bov is already on an indefinite 1rr per week restriction for previous IP abuse; he's clearly violated this. Is there a reason his edits haven't been reported in relation to this restriction? Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 16:17, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

That too! Diffs above. Jehochman 16:44, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I've blocked him for 48 hours. Having had a look at his contributions, I see no reason why this guy should be editing a popular encyclopedia in this area and plenty of reason why he shouldn't. Since he's blocked anyway I'll leave this just now to allow other admins the chance to give input on the new restriction. If nothing's added in the next wee while I'll impose a new restriction. A three month restriction has the benefit of keeping him around within CU range, but if no other admin suggests anything else, I'm gonna just make it indefinite. Cheers, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 17:14, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I see no reason to give him another (3 month) chance to be a disruptive element. He's been told, warned, sanctioned, and nothing has penetrated. It appears he is not motivated to work within Misplaced Pages's framework, but rather to disruptively promote his own views. I support Deacon's indef restriction. KillerChihuahua 10:36, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Result concerning Bov

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Indefinite article and talk topic ban placed. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 08:02, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

• Bov has broken their ban. Could an administrator please issue a block. Jehochman 02:32, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

• Blocked for 24 hours. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 03:43, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

• They've broken the ban again - evidently a longer block is needed. Hut 8.5 08:49, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

• Blocked for a week.  Sandstein  09:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Jingiby and WP:ARBMAC

Jingiby (talk · contribs) has been on ARBMAC-related sanctions for ages, but he keeps "forgetting" them. Most recently, a revert parole was re-enforced on him, with 1rv/48h and an injunction of preceding each revert by an explanation on talk and 3hrs waiting time to allow for discussion (see User talk:Jingiby#Reverting). He nevertheless keeps making immediate reverts without prior discussion (though I think he does generally stick to the 1/48h part). The latest one was today, here: .

Since I am (again) the reverted party, I can't act to enforce the parole. Could somebody please step in (and remember this is a repeat violation.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Reviewed edits, parole, and block log, have blocked for 2 weeks for violation of revert parole. MBisanz 10:03, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Perscurator

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Request concerning Perscurator

User requesting enforcement

Jehochman 16:10, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested

Perscurator (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Arbitration case whose sanctions are to be enforced

WP:ARB9/11

Sanction or remedy that has been violated

WP:ARB9/11#Discretionary sanctions

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy

Check user contributions at random. Samples:

Explanation how these edits violate the sanction or remedy at issue

Virtually all edits focus on the promotion of 9/11 conspiracy theories, in violation of WP:V, WP:NPOV, WP:SOAP and the arbitration case sanctions.

Enforcement action requested (block, topic ban or other sanction)

Indefinite topic ban from all 9/11-related pages, including talk pages, broadly construed. User was previously warned.

Additional comments

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

Discussion concerning Perscurator

I am reluctant to accede to this request. All but three edits of Perscurator are from autumn 2008 or earlier, most also predating the warning, and are presumably not very actionable any more. The newer two edits, linked to in the request, may have been intended to present the conspiracy theories (for which and their proponents I have no sympathy at all) in a favorable light - but, taken by themselves, they do not seem to be objectionable: they are concerned with apparently reliable sources and were not made in a disruptive manner. Whether these sources belong in the article seems to be worthy of good faith discussion; this content issue should not be settled by an arbitration enforcement request.  Sandstein  17:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

This request is premature. Both edits are a request for adding an edit that is discussed in a now hidden section here . The edit dispute is more of where and how to present it with several editors agreeing that it can be in the article if those issues can be resolved. If an edit adding material that gives support to a conspiracy theory is always considered a violation of WP:ARB9/11#Discretionary sanctions for "promoting" 9/11 conspiracy theories regardless of how reliably it is sourced then we have a problem and the article will never be NPOV. The sanctions should only apply if edits are deliberately disruptive. Wayne (talk) 17:22, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Jehochman, in reply to your un-closure below, is there evidence that Perscurator has engaged in meatpuppetry?  Sandstein  16:30, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I see, at http://www.911blogger.com/node/19833. I am evaluating this.  Sandstein  16:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I believe so. Take a look at the cited sock puppetry case. There's no point to repeat the same comments here. Hut 8.5 knows the most about it. Perhaps you could ask him for clarification or expansion. (Unclosure--not exactly, just a shortcut rather than starting a new thread.) Jehochman 16:33, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

All right, at that thread, we have the editor "Vesa", who admits to being Perscurator here, posting inter alia:

"http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:World_Trade_Center_controlled_demoliti... It would be nice, though, to see more of us truthers there..."

"There has to be something that can be done to stop that. But what? Does anyone know a proficient "Wiki-lawyer"?"

This violates WP:TEAMWORK, a policy that provides that "Do not recruit meatpuppets. It is considered highly inappropriate to advertise Misplaced Pages articles to your friends, family members, or communities of people who agree with you, so that they come to Misplaced Pages and support your side of a debate." Accordingly, I am of a mind to impose the requested topic ban, although not - given that this would be his first sanction - an indefinite one. What do others think?  Sandstein  16:40, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

If you want proof that Vesa=Perscurator, look at this edit and the page it links to. Furthermore I can see that Vesa had discussed influencing Misplaced Pages articles before on the same site: I think something should be done here, since this is a clear violation of policy and campaigns to get people to edit articles could certainly be problematic, but since I've edited a lot in this area and interacted with Perscurator before I am definitely involved. Hut 8.5 18:04, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Note: The following, up to 17:05, 17 April 2009 (UTC), was moved from the "result" section below.

No action. No administrator or other user on this board, apart from the requesting user, appears to consider this to be actionable at this time. Concerning Perscurator, see also Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Huntdowntheconspiracists.  Sandstein  10:41, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Please don't close this. There is an active discussion at WP:SPI concerning meat puppetry by Perscurator. If you review the facts at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Huntdowntheconspiracists, I think it is clear that sanctions are going to be applied. Perscurator has been found to be soliciting accounts off site to cause 9/11 disruption. Jehochman 16:18, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Sandstein, nobody even commented, except Wayne, who is certainly not an uninvolved editor. Let's hear what EdJohnston has to say. Jehochman 16:20, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Don't know whether we need to ask EdJohnston. He apparently considers a mass enforcement (diff). Which evidence are you referring to with regard to the statement that "Perscurator has been found to be soliciting accounts off site", Jehochman? --Cs32en (talk) 16:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC) -- ok, the URL was give above while I was typing. --Cs32en (talk) 16:46, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Mass enforcement may be the only way to restore order. When people join a riot in progress, they share the blame for what happens. The evidence is at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Huntdowntheconspiracists in my evidence section, and the comments by others, specifically User:Hut 8.5. For the sake of your own reputation, it would be wise to distance yourself from those engaging in sock and meat puppetry, disruption and battlezone tactics. Jehochman 16:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I see people citing content-related WP policy sound bites at random, without coherence and without any apparent thought about the underlying WP policy considerations. Administrative actions with regard to content are being justified by such flawed reasoning. First of all, I am distancing myself from such conduct. I am also not surprised that some people start rioting under these circumstances. --Cs32en (talk) 17:02, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

In sock and meatpuppet cases, the usual practices accept that indefinite blocks may be doled out widely to anyone whose misconduct can be shown. It may happen that we hold back and issue shorter blocks or no blocks at all if it seems that it's not that big of a problem, or that things are returning to normal. Since we're in the presence of an extensive outside campaign to influence these articles to a certain POV, and there are no signs yet the campaign is abating, I would favor giving long blocks to those, like Perscurator, who can be shown to have helped organize the meatpuppetry. EdJohnston (talk) 17:07, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Sock and meatpuppetry is a separate issue to the case that Jehochman has initiated. This case should concentrate solely on the current allegation made against Perscurator and these new claims should be dealt with in a separate case or it would be wrongly implied that Jehochman was justified in reporting him. This implication that Perscurator's edit was in violation would be to the detriment of legitimate editors who may be frightened off from contributing. Wayne (talk) 20:07, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

We are not a bureaucracy, and the alleged meatpuppet activity falls within the area of conflict of the arbitral decision, so this is quite the proper forum.  Sandstein  20:11, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

While it falls under the area of arbitral decision this is not what he was accused of. Deal with this case and start a new case for the new claims. Wayne (talk) 20:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Having just looked at the evidence for Perscurator has been found to be soliciting accounts off site to cause 9/11 disruption. I note that the evidence is two years old and appeared to not result in any volunteers to edit. I would also argue that the evidence is at the lower end of a violation as Perscurator makes it clear that he is talking about two edits he wanted to make that in themselves are not in violation of WP:ARB9/11#Discretionary sanctions nor were they disruptive if they were in the format he claims in the post. Also it should be noted that the sanctions were not in force two years ago so penalising him for violation should be based on his actions since and it is disingenuous to bring up evidence that is so old. If his actions since are in violation then I would support a ban but must oppose it at this time given what has been presented here. I also would like to point out that some editors who oppose his edits are responsible for most much of the disruption that results which is why I am so passionate about neutrality and fairness in these cases. Wayne (talk) 21:47, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

This is not ancient history from 2008. Perscurator was trying to recruit truthers to Misplaced Pages on April 16, only two days ago. Here is a comment that Hut 8.5 just made in the SPI case:

This blog post and its replies are trying to get people to add material to Misplaced Pages articles, including advice on wearing down editors removing the material in question. One of the people posting this is "Vesa", who edits Misplaced Pages as Perscurator. Hut 8.5 16:34, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

In the same thread, Vesa says It would be nice, though, to see more of us truthers there..., which is an attempt to recruit truthers to win the Misplaced Pages discussion. EdJohnston (talk) 04:35, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

"Truthers" is of course a misnomer..they're not on Misplaced Pages to report what they find from reliable, scientifically peer reviewed articles, but are instead here to promote heresay and falsehoods from unreliable sources as well as misrepresentations gleemed from the reliable ones. We've seen this kind of behavior before...agenda driven CTers and others try to misuse this website to promote the ridiculous...which makes the website look ridiculous.--MONGO 04:57, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm very dissapointed with the ego driven POV pushing shown in this case (admin excepted, he's only bowing to consensus). Perscurator's "soliciting accounts off site" was in 2007 not 2008 as claimed and the instance in this blog post "only two days ago" is definately not soliciting unless those interpreting it are either illiterate or do not have English as their mother tongue. As for Hut 8.5's claim "its replies" support the soliciting can he please point out where? I can see nothing even resembling this. In effect an editor is topic banned solely for saying "It would be nice, though, to see more of us truthers there" on an offsite forum. Surely someone has a more legitimate example to justify the ban. If not then you clearly make the case for what is posted in those forums and are playing right into their hands by losing the moral highground. Wayne (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your support, Wayne. I think it is ridiculous that one is banned for expressing a one-sentence wish outside Misplaced Pages that there were more like-minded editors on Misplaced Pages. I was not aware that expressing such views could be used to penalize an editor, nor was I warned about it. I strongly feel that this incident was simply used as a pretext to get me banned.

Please allow me to quote my comments from the fateful outside thread, now that it has attracted your attention:

The latest Bentham online article cannot be referenced, as Bentham is such and such. So why can the earlier Betham online article by Jones et al still be linked?

When one points out that the latest article has been discussed in Danmark's TV2, they say that YouTube is not a realiable source.

When one shows the numerous references to the article in e.g. Danish mainstream and science media, they say they do not undestand Danish and that it is best to USE only English sources.

And so on. A question to all Bloggerists and fair-minded Wiki editors possibly reading this: What can be done about this unfairness?

I am appalled that some editors are allowed to exclude references based on such clearly illogical and dishonet arguments, while those who protest such "thug action" are banned based on any possible excuse. 88.113.224.40 (talk) 17:25, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I have blocked the IP above for the evasion of Perscurator's block.  Sandstein  20:11, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Result concerning Perscurator

In view if the discussion above, I am blocking Perscurator for a month and topic-banning-him from 9/11 topics for a year, all for violations of WP:TEAMWORK as described above.  Sandstein  06:00, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Ohconfucius

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Request concerning Ohconfucius

User requesting enforcement

—Locke Cole • t • c 04:20, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

User against whom enforcement is requested

Ohconfucius (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Arbitration case whose sanctions are to be enforced

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Date delinking

Sanction or remedy that has been violated

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Date delinking#Temporary_injunction

Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy

Explanation how these edits violate the sanction or remedy at issue

Delinking dates while injunction is in effect and issues remain unresolved. Unlinking dates also has the effect of removing the auto formatting, on which there is no consensus.

Enforcement action requested (block, topic ban or other sanction)

Block

Additional comments

The RFC is over, but the matter of auto formatting remains unresolved, and there is still the matter of conduct and behavior of editors during the RFC.

Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested

The diff of the notification.

Discussion concerning Ohconfucius

I am a habitual editor of all the articles whose diffs are cited above, and am engaged in housekeeping task of aligning all dates to dmy/mdy, mostly with regard to ISO-formatted dates. Ohconfucius (talk) 04:31, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Locke Cole, how do these edits constitute, in your opinion, a "program of mass delinking"? I am unconvinced.  Sandstein  05:57, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

They were all performed rapidly, some within less than a minute. I also did not provide every diff, there were others in the contribution history. This editor in particular also has a habit of flaunting this injunction (see his prior blocks for violating this injunction as well as the permanent block of Date delinker (talk · contribs)). —Locke Cole • t • c 06:00, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm also unconvinced the evidence presented demonstrates a "program of mass linking or delinking" has occurred. PhilKnight (talk) 19:50, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I am also unconvinced that the word "mass" is involved. I'd be more comfortable, however, if Ohconfucius were yet more cautious, an inch away from the running of a bot to remove autoformatting coding en masse. Locke Cole's incantation that there's no consensus should be taken with yet another grain of salt. And it's irrelevant here, anyway. What matters is the interpretation of the injunction text. Tony (talk) 18:10, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

I did not provide an exhaustive list of diffs, as I didn't believe such a listing would be useful. Are you saying you want even more diffs, because I can surely provide more... I just figured admins would AGF that I wouldn't bring this here without cause. —Locke Cole • t • c 20:57, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

• The injunction against “mass delinkings” was intended to stop bot activity, which does thousands of edits per hour (see Lightbot history and scroll to the bottom). Minor manual editing like this has always been permitted. Besides, the injunction against bot delinking will be lifted soon and this specious complaint will be moot anyway. The complainant, Lock Cole, knew all this before coming here. Greg L (talk) 22:30, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Care to refactor/remove/strike the last line of your comment there? Accusing another user of bad faith is not only poor form, but entirely pointless in this context.--Tznkai (talk) 00:17, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

• No. Greg L (talk) 01:06, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

• Greg is being cranky today. If it weren't bad manners to do so, I'd strike through both his imputation of what goes on in Cole's head and his pre-empting of what would be a decision by the arbitrators. Tony (talk) 06:31, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Trying to approach this neutrally, I would say there's two problems in OC's edits:

• Unlike others who have been brought forward but no action taken, where the date delinking was usually done in conjunction with other article cleanups, these edits (and several others, I spot-checked the contribution) are primarily to delink date with maybe one additional non-date link removed per normal linking requirements. The edit summaries are clear that these are to do something with dates.
• The injunction, while calling against a program of mass linking/delinking, does not limit this to just bots or scripts, and so the fact that he has done at least 2 batches of 20 such articles in a row over the last couple of days looks to me like it passes the duck test. I AGF that OC's contributions are all being done by hand, but as per the wording of the injunction and the intent from the first point, this would see to fall under it.

I don't think a block is necessary, but it should be affirmed that this action is against the injunction, so that further engagement in this fashion can bring about another. --MASEM (t) 12:41, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree 100% with what Masem wrote. Seeing only six links cited by Locke, I didn’t quite realize it was 20 articles. Perhaps it would be better, Ohconfucius, if you cooled your jets somewhat so we spend less time here? Greg L (talk) 16:58, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

As he's been blocked previously for this, and had his alt account (Date delinker (talk · contribs)) indefinitely blocked for violating this injunction, I felt simply warning him wouldn't be the most effective course of action. However, at this point, a block would be purely punitive. —Locke Cole • t • c 20:57, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Result concerning Ohconfucius

This section is to be edited only by the administrator closing this request for arbitration enforcement. Use {{discussion top}} / {{discussion bottom}} to mark it as closed.

Robertredfern (talk · contribs)

Worth watching, under Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Homeopathy and related cases. He appears - or at least claims to be - to be the author of several books promoting various substances. He's doing a bit of self-promotion, replacing articles with samples from his books, that kind of thing. I think a lot of his contributions have been deleted with the articles. Probably not necessary to act yet, but I think a few more eyes would help. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I am marking this as resolved. Shoemaker's Holiday, this page is for specific and actionable enforcement requests only, as described in {{Arbitration enforcement request}}. Your message above is not actionable.  Sandstein  15:00, 21 April 2009 (UTC)