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Virginia Lewis (10th Kingdom)
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This article, along with two other characters from this five-part miniseries, was AfDed three months ago for reasons lack of significant coverage in reliable third-party sources (i.e. WP:NOTABILITY) if you check Google News/Books/Scholar for "Virginia Lewis" "10th kingdom", and no source is cited in the article. The article is also WP:REDUNDANT to the parent article The 10th Kingdom, contains WP:OR (the "Personality and traits" and "Cultural references" section, honestly, read it!), and if the original research were removed as it should, the rest of the article would consist of plot details that fail WP:WAF and WP:UNDUE (I'd add WP:NOT#PLOT and WP:FICT if they weren't under discussion at the moment). The article has been tagged for over half a year for these issues, and no improvement is in sight. Speaking from experience writing the FA article on the highly influental six-part miniseries Pride and Prejudice (1995 TV serial), the main articles already gives due weight to the all the characters and nothing needs to be merged from the current character subarticle. If few new legitimate elements were added to the article, I'd still argue to WP:AVOIDSPLIT until a sizeable article without much redundancy to the parent article has been written. I boldly redirected the article yesterday per these reasons without being aware of the last AfD, but the redirect got reverted.
I do not think three months is too early to start a new AfD. Additionally, the last AfD only ended in a keep because an editor claimed that "Principle characters in the major series deserve an article" and that a merger would be appropriate, followed by "per him" votes. However, a five-part TV miniseries is not a "major series" in any way, and I stated above why a merger or redirect doesn't make sense . Plus, this is an unlikely search term. I'd like the closing admin to review and balance the presented arguments in this new AfD very closely against my full deletion rationale. – sgeureka 08:44, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. – sgeureka 08:49, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- Delete. Article is just an extension of The 10th Kingdom, with even more in depth plot details that I do not believe are suitable for an encyclopedia. Can be adequately covered in the main article. Lacks any sources. Searching mainly gives plot summaries, and there doesn't seem to be much reputable coverage of the character. Quantpole (talk) 09:09, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- Merge to The 10th Kingdom and trim. Edward321 (talk) 14:08, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- Merge per Edward321, with no prejudice against a re-spin-out when sources speak to the character specifically. Jclemens (talk) 14:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included at Talk:Kimberly Williams-Paisley, Talk:Christine White, Talk:The 10th Kingdom Ikip (talk) 18:01, 22 April 2009 (UTC)