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List of films that often used the word fuck

Dear Editor, during talk page discussions, you requested at one point to be notified when this article was up for deletion again. Please see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of films that most frequently use the word "fuck" (9th nomination). Best regards, hoping you can supply some input, --Reinoutr (talk) 08:22, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the pointer. I have commented at AFD. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:46, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

List of political families in the United Kingdom

Spring family seems to have no place here. See also minor edit war at Spring Baronets. Please resolve. Kittybrewster ☎ 09:46, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

From the discussion at Talk:Spring Baronets, it looks like this has now stabilised. If an edit war resumes, I'll protect the relevant pages pending a resolution. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs)

Anstruther baronet

Yes, I perhaps I was wrong to replace a precise link with "rayment-hc". The advantage of using the template is that it covers the situation that may arise if the website migrates to a new domain, as it did a while back. This gave a bot work to update all the links to his old webpage. The ideal answer would probably be to add a further level of complication to the template, so as to incorporate the initials letter of the a constituency, similarly for the peerage and baronetcy pages. I suspect that this is not in fact as simple as it sounds, as some letters may have more than one page. And by the way, thanks for handling the succession box "with" issue so well. I am now converting British succession boxes to the new format when i find them. Peterkingiron (talk) 09:22, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

A bit of a Wiggin'

At least I could reuse the succ boxes. Cut and paste has its pros and cons, and at the moment I'm trying to limit the variables (one Welsh constituency and I got it wrong!). Glad to see you have managed to get to grips with all the Abel Smiths which I saw as a daunting prospect. Regards Motmit (talk) 11:32, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Carmarthen by-election, 1928

Hi, BHG

Thanks for the msg abt your by-election page, which I thought was really good. I don't mind if you want to do the trimming on the page abt William Nathaniel Jones that you suggest, although I don't really see the harm in some gentle duplication of material as long as it's relevant to both pages. On the categories, I was wondering where the Liberal Party politician cats had gone fm some of the pages I'd created. You're right, they're not needed in the case of MPs.

BTW, what is the difference between Reflist and Reflist|2 which I notice you have been using.

Regards

Graham --Graham Lippiatt (talk) 19:44, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Joseph Neeld

Discussion moved to Talk:Joseph Neeld#Chippenham_1830_or_1832

Editing Barnstar

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Leeds MPs

Thanks for all your tidying-up work on Leeds MPs - you're all over my Watch List today! PamD (talk) 13:04, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about the watchlist clutter!

I have been doing a big tidyup of MPs for the last few months, and Leeds came into my path today for some reason, and when I find one MP for a constituency I try to do a tidyup on all of them. Unfortunately this leads to a manically spiralling number of open tabs on my browser ... --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:09, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Sir Edward Barkham, 1st Baronet of South Acre

Please would you fix this for me. Kittybrewster ☎ 19:15, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you wanted done, but these edits are as far I can go, because I don't have enough info on other MPs for Boston in that era to do a succession box. Is that any good? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Kittybrewster ☎ 19:30, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Congressman templates

We have been going at it in these TfDs but have not really come to an agreement on a direction to take although you have gotten support to remove the templates. I am disapointed not to have gotten your feedback on my new alternative.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:21, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, the first thing is that TFD is really a place for the keep/delete decision, not for setting a wider policy. TFD really only addresses a simple question of "should this template go", not "how should we organise all these articles".

And the second problem is that you seemed to me to completely fixated on the idea that there must be some all-encompassing template to attach to each Congressman. I don't see the need for that, and I don't see that you have identified any purpose which cannot be filled by succession boxes. {{USRepSuccessionBox}} includes a link to the article on the district, which is the place to provide a list of of all Reps for that district. It's only one click away if the reader wants it. Why this urge to make templates to include everything in the article?

The example you suggest of Jimmy Duncan (U.S. politician) looks to me to be absolutely horrid: there is almost a screenful of templates, and adding all that with the infobox adds up to a lot more screen space than the actual article. I think that article would be significantly improved by deleting everything below the succession box, and possibly adding one or two "see also" links.

I don't think I am going to persuade you that articles are better off without a raft of huge templates, so I didn't want to spend my energy trying. One of the things I have learnt over the years on wikipedia is that while a modest change may be easily achieved, bigger ones take can generate an awful lot of heat all round, and I think it's best for everyone to avoid that. So for now I'll satisfy myself with just seeing the removal of the two remaining monster templates. That will put an end to articles being doubled or tripled in size by having a massive list attached to them, and that's a useful improvement ... but at so,e stage in the future, I think that there will be a wider move away from the proliferation of big navigation templates. Some articles are becoming grotesquely overloaded by them, and there more this trend continues the more likely that there will at some stage be a move back to the old principle that it's quite enough to link to a list, rather than transcluding into the article a stripped-down version which omits so much of the info that makes a list useful. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:10, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Blue Coat School, building in Dublin

Hi, BHG: I've been trying to sort out a mess of dabs and redirects for Blue Coat School, Blue-Coat School Bluecoat school (which were all pointing to different places,let alone The Blue Coat School!), and now find that a lot of the remaining links to the dab page are from Template:Irish parliament houses. I'm not sure where that link should go: Law Society of Ireland or The King's Hospital or somewhere else? Should I just dab it to a redlink as Blue Coat School, Dublin? Any thoughts? PamD (talk) 23:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Pam, but I know next-to-nothing about all that -- I hadn't even heard of a bluecoat school in Dublin until you mentioned it.

My best guess is that a redlink to Blue Coat School, Dublin is indeed the best option, because at least the link is there and all pointing in the same direction for the benefit of anyone who has the sources to figure out whether it should be a redirect to somewhere else or an article.

Sorry I can't be more helpful :(--BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:50, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Ah well, it seemed worth asking as you'd commented on the template's talk page and I gather you're based on the right island! Thanks. PamD (talk) 07:54, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

... and the book title given as a reference in The King's Hospital resolves it: "The foundation of the Hospital and Free school of King Charles II., Oxmantown Dublin: commonly called the Blue coat school." I think I've sorted them all out now! PamD (talk) 08:27, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Well done, that looks like the answer! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:36, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

James Majendie

I am sure you have it watchlisted but I have just added a simple infobox for JHA Majendie. You had the line He died in January 1906 but the information I can find shows he died in 1939. I have not changed the article text I thought I would just check with you. MilborneOne (talk) 22:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the note -- I had categorised his date correctly, but somehow got it wrong when I started writing the text. Now corrected.

However, I removed the infobox, for two reasons. First, it introduced facts about his place of death which are not backed up by any references ... and secondly, there's no need for an info box on such a short article. Infoboxes can sometimes be useful on longer articles, but they don't add anything useful when the text is so short and doesn't need summarising. The infobox also had the the unwelcome effect of pushing the succession box further down the page, forcing the reader to scroll, which is a Bad Thing. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:03, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

OK understood - I have a reference for the info I added so will re-add it to the text soon. MilborneOne (talk) 11:08, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

That'll be great ... and thanks for being nice about my removal of the infobox. :) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:16, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

CfD: on a hursday

Thank you for the giggle. David in DC (talk) 02:16, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome! Some things are too serious to take solemnly :)

... but thanks for correcting my sloppy capitalisation. I will repent by becoming a porn actor ... ;-) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:22, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Victims of political repression

This is to notify you that Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_April_21#Victims_of_political_repression, which you participated in, reached no consensus to delete, but has been relisted to Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_April_30#Victims_of_political_repression in order to determine if consensus can be reached on other alternatives. Your further input would be appreciated.--Aervanath (talk) 06:14, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

"no consensus to delete"???????

CFD closures are not supposed to be based on a counting of heads, and I have never before seen a CFD relisted with one of the options ruled out :( --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:56, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Ireland

Hello BrownHairedGirl. There are a couple of editors looking for you to further contribute to Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Ireland Collaboration and I thought I would take it upon myself to ask you. Jack forbes (talk) 13:47, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi Jack, thanks for the headsup.

I need to think on this a little more, and I'll pop back in a few days. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:52, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Welsh socialists

Hi, I notice you are rapidly removing a great many people from the category:Welsh socialists. May I ask what the rationale is for this? I'd readily agree that some of the modern Labour politicians included would not be regarded by most commentators, or themselves, as socialists, but others you've removed definitely are or were, e.g. staunch trade unionist Huw T. Edwards and Plaid's Adam Price MP. Was there a prior discussion and consensus reached for this wholesale removal? If you are emptying the category for deletion, as I'm inlcined to suspect, what is the basis for that? This is a perfectly valid category even if some of those included in it are suspect. Enaidmawr (talk) 21:38, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the msg.

No, I'm not emptying the category for deletion. If I wanted to delete it, I'd list it at WP:CFD, and a bot would empty it if there was a consensus to delete. I deplore pe-emptive emptying.

In my trawls through MPs, I had repeatedly noticed that this category had been added without any apparent justification to Labour Party politicians. Labour has long been a broad church, and has long included many people who are not socialists. (If all Labour politicians were Socialist, there'd be no need to add them individually to this category, because Category:Wales Labour Party politicians could be added to category:Welsh socialists rather than to Category:Social democrats.

So what I have done is to remove articles where there is no other mention of the person being a socialist. I am sure that some of the articles which I have removed do indeed belong in the category, and if a suitable reference can be found, they should be added back to the category. I doubt that will include the huge crop of New Labour politicians who were in the category. I'd probably agree with you about Adam, but we need a reference. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:51, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. Hope you'll forgive my perhaps over-hasty suspicion, but I've seen it before and they were going at a rate of knots! Agree with you about most of the Labour Luvlies of course. It's not really my field just that one or two of the articles were on my watchlist. Adam Price must surely have stated his belief in socialism on many occasions and is certainly regarded as a socialist. If I can find a ref sometime - busy on cy: at the moment - I'll add it. Problem is that finding the obvious is sometimes frustratingly difficult on the web. All's well, but perhaps you could give a bit of leewater in some cases? Sorry to have interrupted your editing. Regards, Enaidmawr (talk) 21:59, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

No problem at all with being interrupted. Pre-emptive emptying of a category does happen, it's best to check if it looks like it may be in progress.

Sure, a bit of leeway is fine. There were a few I didn't remove despite some doubts, and so long as the category isn't flooded again without discretion, I'll probably leave it alone. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:07, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

PS It was this edit, in which I removed the category from a National liberal, that prompted me to purge the category. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:22, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

I'll take a peek now. Spot of edit conflict just now as I was trying to post here but thought you'd like to know that Adam's back home (one solid ref despite so many blogs saying what you need - and you can't use them!). Enaidmawr (talk) 22:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. Classic! Enaidmawr (talk) 22:31, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Vintagekits

This editor was injuncted for one year from editing Baronets, Arbuthnot articles and Ireland and UK political articles. There has been particular history between him and me. Presumably his time is up today because (1) he has been doing a countdown using road signs and (2) he is back to his old irritating tricks. For example renaming articles created by me such as Sir Benjamin Slade, 7th Baronet Benjamin Slade. Sir Ben is actually known as Ben, but Ben Slade already exists. I request that all today’s edits be reverted and that the articles ban / injunction be extended. It worked very well. For good measure I would add this edit . Kittybrewster ☎ 09:19, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh dear. I really had thought that VK had turned over a new leaf, and was focused on productively contributing to wikipedia rather than looking for opportunities for mischief :(

I took a quick look at his contribs list, and he appears to have just worked his way alphabetically down a list of baronets, renaming anything he could, and I have found several other problematic renamings, and one where he zapped a disambiguation page.

I think it's time for WP:ANI :( --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:01, 1 May 2009 (UTC)