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* {{IPvandal|60.242.127.221}} User had received a level 1 warning. I gave a level 4im due to homophobic vandalism. User then repeated homophobic vandalism on another page. ] (]) 10:34, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

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First of all, sorry.I am not very good at this, I am new to the medium and so dont know how to report users. i have been working on the New Kadampa Tradition page, basically just putting non-NPOV and inadequate citation banners on it. The NKT is a HIGHLY controversial UK Buddhist group (just Google the name and add 'cult' or 'scandal') who have a gang of editors/sockpuppets who have been bullying people off their pages (NKT, Dorje Shugden, Dorje Shugden Controversy and kelsang Gyatso 9the groups leader for years) The gang members have been blocked/banned before for unfair practices but, once back online they continue bullying people off the pages, removing banners, and properly sourced material, replacing it with pro NKT and pro Shugden supporters material and generally using the articles to prmote themselves and their version of events. I AM guilty of messing around with one of them a little, taking the mickey on his user page but generally what i am guilty of is placing banners on these pages to warn people about the other side of the group, something they are doing their best to hide. Users Truthbody, Atisha's Cook, Truthsayer 62 and Empty mountains are all gang members who are also members of the anti Dalai Lama group. They have accused me of vandalism repeatedly becuase i keep putting an NPOV banner on the page, threatening me with moderators but never calling them in (thats a tell tale sign they are worried about external scrutiny IMO) I have changed very little content, I am just putting the banners back on to warn the public-please read the talk page on New Kadampa Tradition-there is also some strong evidence for sock puppetry and manipualtion of fact there. I am not after banning them I just think in the interests of the genral public the pages need banners-the group even have an ex 'cult' members site called New Kadampa Survivors with nearly a thousand members-yet nothing is mentioned-nothing about sex scandals, cult allegations, anti Dalai Lama protests NOTHING, Its like the criticism doesnt exist. PLEASE WIKI Editors-help sort these people out before they bully more reputable editors of the internet. Below is an excerpt from just one page about how these people are behaving, undermining the credibility of wiki and endangering the public. Surely this cannot be allowed to continue. The page is at http://westernshugdensociety.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/wikipedia-dorje-shugdens-enlightened-lineage-or-how-to-make-history/#comment-988

With respect for truth and a loathing for cyber bullying Yonteng BTW This proves the theory that the internet is NOT leading to greater wisdom but is the realm of mob rule and last man standing wins-It brings the name of wiki right down-No wonder people are starting to talk about using WP 'as far as it can be trusted'If I were runnign the show i would just thorw the whole thing out and not let any of the parties use this important medium as a battleground

Misplaced Pages: Dorje Shugden’s Enlightened Lineage or How to Make ‘History’


I gave up to contribute on Misplaced Pages.

NKT editors were very busy to establish Dorje Shugden as an enlightened protector on Misplaced Pages, and finally they have successfully accomplished this aim. Now this rather recent and minor view has become the main view in Misplaced Pages’s article on Dorje Shugden. Further, the use of sources like Xinhua News Agency and Die Weltwoche in the introduction section of Dorje Shugden Controversy are mediocre for an encyclopaedia. To be able to include these dubious sources in the introduction section the NKT editors deleted quotes from Mills’ research. There are plenitude of other dubious sources added by NKT editors which replace now formerly quoted 3rd party Misplaced Pages:Reliable Sources.

For more than one year now Misplaced Pages:Reliable Sources, like Dreyfus, Kay, von Brück, Mumford or Nebesky-Wojkowitz, as well as other qualified scholarly papers on the history of Shugden worship (and / or the Shugden Controversy / New Kadampa Tradition) have been repeatedly deleted or misrepresented on Misplaced Pages – in almost all cases by a group of engaged NKT editors – or these qualified sources have been blocked by them as being “heavily biased”; and for a long time NKT blogs and anonymous websites made by Shugdenpas replaced Misplaced Pages:Reliable Sources. Now the academic sources are just not mentioned any more or they are presented only marginal, and in a way that it does not interfere with the World-view of NKT.

The history and talk pages of Misplaced Pages, as well as the notices on the Adminboard, offer everybody the chance to explore this for himself. The last notice on the Adminboard can be read here: Users Emptymountains and Truthbody. Other strategies included the sockpuppets of ‘Wisdombuddha’ or multiple accounts fom the same IP. One year ago an editor, who was not involved in editing these articles, gave already a notice on the Administrators’ noticeboard, stating

… these users are deleting sourced information and have a clear POV that they’ve conspired to promote on Misplaced Pages. They are pretty intransigent when it comes to talking about reverting and they show bad faith in editing. I don’t know the intricacies of this dispute, but you don’t need to in order to see how mass deletions of verifiable and reliable information are a bad idea….

and since then nothing has really changed, hence, a “fruitless case”.' PLEASE READ THE LAST ENTRIES ON THE NKT DISCUSSION PAGE about my banners. They are rampant!Yonteng] (]) 12:10, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

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    First of all, sorry.I am not very good at this, I am new to the medium and so dont know how to report users. i have been working on the New Kadampa Tradition page, basically just putting non-NPOV and inadequate citation banners on it. The NKT is a HIGHLY controversial UK Buddhist group (just Google the name and add 'cult' or 'scandal') who have a gang of editors/sockpuppets who have been bullying people off their pages (NKT, Dorje Shugden, Dorje Shugden Controversy and kelsang Gyatso 9the groups leader for years) The gang members have been blocked/banned before for unfair practices but, once back online they continue bullying people off the pages, removing banners, and properly sourced material, replacing it with pro NKT and pro Shugden supporters material and generally using the articles to prmote themselves and their version of events. I AM guilty of messing around with one of them a little, taking the mickey on his user page but generally what i am guilty of is placing banners on these pages to warn people about the other side of the group, something they are doing their best to hide. Users Truthbody, Atisha's Cook, Truthsayer 62 and Empty mountains are all gang members who are also members of the anti Dalai Lama group. They have accused me of vandalism repeatedly becuase i keep putting an NPOV banner on the page, threatening me with moderators but never calling them in (thats a tell tale sign they are worried about external scrutiny IMO) I have changed very little content, I am just putting the banners back on to warn the public-please read the talk page on New Kadampa Tradition-there is also some strong evidence for sock puppetry and manipualtion of fact there. I am not after banning them I just think in the interests of the genral public the pages need banners-the group even have an ex 'cult' members site called New Kadampa Survivors with nearly a thousand members-yet nothing is mentioned-nothing about sex scandals, cult allegations, anti Dalai Lama protests NOTHING, Its like the criticism doesnt exist. PLEASE WIKI Editors-help sort these people out before they bully more reputable editors of the internet. Below is an excerpt from just one page about how these people are behaving, undermining the credibility of wiki and endangering the public. Surely this cannot be allowed to continue. The page is at http://westernshugdensociety.wordpress.com/2009/04/15/wikipedia-dorje-shugdens-enlightened-lineage-or-how-to-make-history/#comment-988

    With respect for truth and a loathing for cyber bullying Yonteng BTW This proves the theory that the internet is NOT leading to greater wisdom but is the realm of mob rule and last man standing wins-It brings the name of wiki right down-No wonder people are starting to talk about using WP 'as far as it can be trusted'If I were runnign the show i would just thorw the whole thing out and not let any of the parties use this important medium as a battleground

    Misplaced Pages: Dorje Shugden’s Enlightened Lineage or How to Make ‘History’


    I gave up to contribute on Misplaced Pages.

    NKT editors were very busy to establish Dorje Shugden as an enlightened protector on Misplaced Pages, and finally they have successfully accomplished this aim. Now this rather recent and minor view has become the main view in Misplaced Pages’s article on Dorje Shugden. Further, the use of sources like Xinhua News Agency and Die Weltwoche in the introduction section of Dorje Shugden Controversy are mediocre for an encyclopaedia. To be able to include these dubious sources in the introduction section the NKT editors deleted quotes from Mills’ research. There are plenitude of other dubious sources added by NKT editors which replace now formerly quoted 3rd party Misplaced Pages:Reliable Sources.

    For more than one year now Misplaced Pages:Reliable Sources, like Dreyfus, Kay, von Brück, Mumford or Nebesky-Wojkowitz, as well as other qualified scholarly papers on the history of Shugden worship (and / or the Shugden Controversy / New Kadampa Tradition) have been repeatedly deleted or misrepresented on Misplaced Pages – in almost all cases by a group of engaged NKT editors – or these qualified sources have been blocked by them as being “heavily biased”; and for a long time NKT blogs and anonymous websites made by Shugdenpas replaced Misplaced Pages:Reliable Sources. Now the academic sources are just not mentioned any more or they are presented only marginal, and in a way that it does not interfere with the World-view of NKT.

    The history and talk pages of Misplaced Pages, as well as the notices on the Adminboard, offer everybody the chance to explore this for himself. The last notice on the Adminboard can be read here: Users Emptymountains and Truthbody. Other strategies included the sockpuppets of ‘Wisdombuddha’ or multiple accounts fom the same IP. One year ago an editor, who was not involved in editing these articles, gave already a notice on the Administrators’ noticeboard, stating

      … these users are deleting sourced information and have a clear POV that they’ve conspired to promote on Misplaced Pages. They are pretty intransigent when it comes to talking about reverting and they show bad faith in editing. I don’t know the intricacies of this dispute, but you don’t need to in order to see how mass deletions of verifiable and reliable information are a bad idea….
    

    and since then nothing has really changed, hence, a “fruitless case”.' PLEASE READ THE LAST ENTRIES ON THE NKT DISCUSSION PAGE about my banners. They are rampant!YontengYonteng (talk) 12:10, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

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