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| ::::I'm agree with you that ASALArmy and Radical islamism in Azerbaijan are of completely different categories. I thing the most of questions you're asking are answered in the article, I have nothing to add. And please do not write things like "I understand that this article was created as a retaliation to the articles about ] attacks" (it is against ] and ]), I'm working on Azerbaijan-related articles since 2007. I'm greating articles that are important for Misplaced Pages readers, during all these years I don't remember an incident when an article created by me was deleted as it wasn't a significant topic. Radical Islamism in Azerbaijan is for sure an important topic. ] (]) 15:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC) | ::::I'm agree with you that ASALArmy and Radical islamism in Azerbaijan are of completely different categories. I thing the most of questions you're asking are answered in the article, I have nothing to add. And please do not write things like "I understand that this article was created as a retaliation to the articles about ] attacks" (it is against ] and ]), I'm working on Azerbaijan-related articles since 2007. I'm greating articles that are important for Misplaced Pages readers, during all these years I don't remember an incident when an article created by me was deleted as it wasn't a significant topic. Radical Islamism in Azerbaijan is for sure an important topic. ] (]) 15:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
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I propose merge of Radical Islamism in Azerbaijan here to avoid possible coatrack. brandспойт 08:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, radical Islam in Azerbaijan is not a significant issue and does not deserve a separate article. Grandmaster 09:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- According to sources provided, Radical Islamism (not Islam) is very significant in Azerbaijan and continues to grow. if all the described movements, webs, events, terrorist activities in Azerbaijan are not significant, report for the article's deletion I'm sure it will look strange. Gazifikator (talk) 10:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Oppose Islam (the religion) in Azerbaijan is a quite different topic. Radical Islamism is not the same as the religion of Islam, it is an extremist social, religious, political and military phenomenon, also strongly related to terrorism, and has nothing common with peaceful religion. Gazifikator (talk) 10:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think the material should be deleted, but it certainly does not merit a separate article. Radical or not, it is still Islam, and the existence of one or two fanatics does not mean that radical Islam plays any significant role in Azerbaijani society. Grandmaster 11:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- There is a significant difference (see for more ). And if you read the article, you will see, the Radical Islamism plays important role in Azerbaijan (even according to officials), and this role is growing. There are not only "one or two fanatics", but organized groups and webs in different regions representing serious groups like Al-Qaida and Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya and they're organizing terrorist attacks. Gazifikator (talk) 12:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Which terrorist attacks did they organize? There were none, just a couple that were prevented. And how radical Islam plays an important role in Azerbaijan? It does not affect Azerbaijani society in any way. The vast majority of women here don't wear vails, and and strict observation of religious traditions is not required. I'm really curious in what way this radical Islam affects Azerbaijani society. I understand that this article was created as a retaliation to the articles about ASALA attacks, but virtually non-existent radical Islam in Azerbaijan and the transnational terrorist group of ASALA are not the things from the same category. Grandmaster 13:04, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm agree with you that ASALArmy and Radical islamism in Azerbaijan are of completely different categories. I thing the most of questions you're asking are answered in the article, I have nothing to add. And please do not write things like "I understand that this article was created as a retaliation to the articles about ASALA attacks" (it is against WP:AGF and civility), I'm working on Azerbaijan-related articles since 2007. I'm greating articles that are important for Misplaced Pages readers, during all these years I don't remember an incident when an article created by me was deleted as it wasn't a significant topic. Radical Islamism in Azerbaijan is for sure an important topic. Gazifikator (talk) 15:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- It is not deletion, but merging of the existing info into suitable article by redirect, see WP:MERGE#Full-content paste merger. brandспойт 08:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'm agree with you that ASALArmy and Radical islamism in Azerbaijan are of completely different categories. I thing the most of questions you're asking are answered in the article, I have nothing to add. And please do not write things like "I understand that this article was created as a retaliation to the articles about ASALA attacks" (it is against WP:AGF and civility), I'm working on Azerbaijan-related articles since 2007. I'm greating articles that are important for Misplaced Pages readers, during all these years I don't remember an incident when an article created by me was deleted as it wasn't a significant topic. Radical Islamism in Azerbaijan is for sure an important topic. Gazifikator (talk) 15:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- Which terrorist attacks did they organize? There were none, just a couple that were prevented. And how radical Islam plays an important role in Azerbaijan? It does not affect Azerbaijani society in any way. The vast majority of women here don't wear vails, and and strict observation of religious traditions is not required. I'm really curious in what way this radical Islam affects Azerbaijani society. I understand that this article was created as a retaliation to the articles about ASALA attacks, but virtually non-existent radical Islam in Azerbaijan and the transnational terrorist group of ASALA are not the things from the same category. Grandmaster 13:04, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
- There is a significant difference (see for more ). And if you read the article, you will see, the Radical Islamism plays important role in Azerbaijan (even according to officials), and this role is growing. There are not only "one or two fanatics", but organized groups and webs in different regions representing serious groups like Al-Qaida and Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya and they're organizing terrorist attacks. Gazifikator (talk) 12:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Oppose per User:Gazifikator. ----DanTD (talk) 22:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
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