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Will to Power (band)

Hi Drew, I really owe you a big thanks for getting into this whole brouhaha. That article has needed help for quite a while, and the way it reads now looks good to me (at least I tried to be neutral), but I'd love it if other editors not affiliated with them took a look at it and trimmed it - I think if anything, it's too long now, but I'm kind of wordy :) I've never taken the time to really learn chart tables, so the one near the bottom where it lists song, peak on this chart, peak on that chart, etc looks a little lopsided. Other ones I've seen use some kind of "rowspan" command to include things like what album each single was on, which would be Will to Power for the first four and Journey Home for the last two. I may teach myself that at some point, unless you know how to fix it, in which case I don't just owe you one, I guess I would owe you two! Zephyrnthesky (talk) 04:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, it could probably look better, but I figured out how to adjust the column width and get the rowspan thingy to list the albums. Still, I appreciate what you've done with all this. Take care. Zephyrnthesky (talk) 06:18, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Their music never was more than a few swallows of "my cup of tea", either, and after all the drama I'm ready to pour the contents of the cup down the drain. I kind of liked the song "Say It's Gonna Rain" and remember hearing that in clubs years ago. If you Google the two names there's some info I found on a freestyle music blog that I didn't post here (unreliable source, not to mention somebody would have gone through the roof!) that talks about the history. It's been a vendetta by this person and his multiple accounts against her since before I found the page and I finally had enough and took it upon myself to learn more about them than I ever cared to, just to make sure the article is legit and NPOV. Again, thanks for the help. Zephyrnthesky (talk) 17:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Not to mention a couple of mountain ranges! Well, I guess those are nothing for a dragon, but for those of us plodding along on foot... I'll be curious to see what happens when the two admin-imposed "wiki breaks" expire later this week. Thanks again for your help, and happy editing! Zephyrnthesky (talk) 00:16, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Re WtP

You're welcome ;) EyeSerene 10:24, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I have a question...

Where can I go to find a list of new articles? I've tried searching "new articles" and "recently created articles" but I can't find a list of newly created articles. Do you know if one exists? Thanks! Stormcloud22 (talk) 21:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I love your game! I've read books like that that let you choose the next step and I would lvoe to make a game like that of my own. I think I understand how to link the articles together in order, how do you create a sub-page off of your userpage like you did? Stormcloud22 (talk) 21:24, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Edit: Never mind, I just figured out how to create my own sandbox! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stormcloud22 (talk • contribs) 23:09, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I found it, thanks! How do you indent? The tab button doesn't work and if you use a space, it puts the text in a box.Stormcloud22 (talk) 21:24, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I haven't created any new articles yet, but when I find one that doesn't exist and should, I will. For now I'm just making articles make sense and correcting typos. I'm also welcoming newcomers on their talkpages. Stormcloud22 (talk) 23:27, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

This is what I'm using to welcome newcomers. I added one sentence, the rest was already written. I think the more compact a welcome is, the more useful it is. If it's too long or confusing, the person reading it may get overwhelmed.Stormcloud22 (talk) 01:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Oops, haha, forgot to put in the actual welcome box to show you, here it is. This one seems pretty common, it's the one I got when I joined.

Would you mind if I fixed the grammar on your draft of your welcome page? I'd love to do that, and you wouldn't have to waste time on it. *cue the puppy-dog face* Stormcloud22 (talk) 22:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

An edit conflict? OH BOY.

Glad I could add some spice to the oh so enjoyable task of tediously tagging article after article with CSDs. :P Lәo_(βǃʘʘɱ) 04:18, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Looks like someone just can't handle my quick draw; my six shooters; my fast-like-lightening Beecher's bibles... I'll stop now. Happy editing! Lәo_(βǃʘʘɱ) 04:31, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

He knows where it's at. Asleep next to the encyclopedia. I hear that's like playing Mozart while they sleep or something. xD I've got a couple projects you could work on; sources are online. (This is, of course, a lame attempt to get people to do my dirty work.) Lәo_(βǃʘʘɱ) 04:48, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Heck yes! Fish! :P Anyways, nice talking to you. I'm gonna follow your son's lead; it's late here. Lәo_(βǃʘʘɱ) 04:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Aeoliscus strigatus

On May 15, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Aeoliscus strigatus, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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DYK for Hippocampus kuda

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Dravecky (talk) 11:49, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Adoption templates

I noticed on someones talk-page that you said you didn't know how to make an adoption official. If you find a user you want to adopt, leave a message on their talk page and change {{Adoptme}} to {{Adoptoffer}} on their user page, or add it if they don't have the {{Adoptme}} template. Once they have accepted the adoption use the {{Adoptee|Adopter's Username}} and {{Adopter|Adoptee's Username}} templates on the their user page and your user page respectively.

Hope this helps. If you have any questions on adoption just ask. Gaia Octavia Agrippa | _Sign 15:59, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Remove please

Can you please remove Shehreyar Khan. --The Legendary Sky Attacker 09:45, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Very strange. I know an article like that DID exist. Maybe my spelling was wrong.--The Legendary Sky Attacker 20:29, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Noah's Ark conflict

I would strongly advise you to take a step back from this conflict. Re-read the discussion and watch it unfold. If you really feel that you need to jump in and make a comment, back it up with a quote from one of wikipedia's policy pages such as WP:NPOV. I'm sorry I can't be more help, but I try to keep out of discussions like this one. Gaia Octavia Agrippa | _Sign 10:19, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

RE: adoption method

I do have a very structured adoption method :). I found that because I adopt mostly very new wikipedians, they ask the same questions over and over again.

How does your method work, in practice?

I was getting annoyed with my adoptees all asking "how do I make a link" and "how do I add pictures", so I produced simplified versions of the "wikipedia:" page on the subject. I set them one specific part of editing (such as adding categories) or wikipedia policies (such as the 5 pillars of editing), and show them a simplified page on that subject and give them a task concerning it. I then mark/look at the finished product and give them feed back and tips.

Do adoptees ever complain that you're being too pushy?

I have never had any complaints because I treat my adoptees as individuals. There are some who edit every two days ad there have been some that have faded away into 1 edit every month. One of the first questions I ask, along with "how long have you been editing", is "how often do you edit". If I find that they only edit at weekends then I give them time to complete their tasks.

Do they ever get bored and just never come back?

When they get to the stage when they can do the basics and know enough about wiki-policy to keep them from trouble, they don't enjoy doing tasks as much as they did when they were inexperienced. When they get to this stage I offer to graduate them or just to keep a close eye on them without interfering to much.

Do they usually enjoy it?

Like I said above, when they are just starting editing they do enjoy structure. However, as they get more experienced, they start to pull on the lease and you have to give them more freedom than a fully structured program can allow.

If I choose to implement a similar program on people I've already adopted, how should I broach the subject to them?

You've said that you answer questions for your adoptees, so you should start by asking them to place their questions on their own adoption page. This could be a subpage in your user space (EX User:Drew R. Smith/adoption/adoptee name) or under their user space (EX User:adoptee name/adoption). I see that you have already created this page which would make a good start for your adoption program.

You could start by asking them if they want more structure or if they are fine as it is. If they aren't sure, give them a taster of what your structured adoption program would be like, and I'm sure you'll win them round.

Hope this helps and sorry for going on forever. If you have more questions don't be afraid to ask! Gaia Octavia Agrippa | _Sign 12:32, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Totally random but..

You really should either update your status when you log in/off or remove it. It currently says your online but according to your status page, it hasn't been changed since you created that page on 12 May 2009!

Anyway. Rant over. Gaia Octavia Agrippa | _Sign 12:51, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, you do have to update it yourself. I add tasks to my adoptees program pages (a list of which can be found here. I'm not sure what you would call an advanced task, so if you could enlighten me... Gaia Octavia Agrippa | _Sign 13:46, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I suppose the most advanced task I currently run is this task in which my adoptees are required to produce a B-class article. Gaia Octavia Agrippa | _Sign 13:54, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Good luck with adopting and I'm sure you'll do fine! Gaia Octavia Agrippa | _Sign 14:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I know, its happened to me many times which is why I try to stay clear of them. You really can't do anything except use strong evidence to back up any claims you make. Or like i said earlier, stay clear and cool down. Gaia Octavia Agrippa | _Sign 14:38, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Where to go

Please take the time to read the Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentsHeader, which appears on ANI. very similar information appears when you edit that page. Specifically:

• Note the second bullet under Are you in the right place? which gives the link for reporting violations of NPA and Civility. I have pasted the entire header here in the hope that if you are ignorant of where to go for other concerns, this will serve as a handy reference for you. Hope this helps. KillerChihuahua 15:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Marking your edits as minor

Do you have this as a default in your preferences or are you doing this deliberately? Dougweller (talk) 15:28, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Someones been stealing pages

Just to warn you user:Laurinavicius has stolen your User:Drew R. Smith/Welcome page and is passing it off as their own. They have already stolen most of my adoption pages, and I've had my own rant at them, so feel free to jump in and rant about your page. Gaia Octavia Agrippa | _Sign 15:33, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Adoption Pages

I'm extremely sorry for all of the trouble I have caused by simply copying-and-pasting these Adoption pages. I realize now that I should have asked for permission to use them and to have given credit to the original creators. However, the reason why I did not, was that I had orginally thought that these pages (the ones that I copied and pasted) were a portion of a teaching method which many adopters both shared and used in order to instruct their adoptees. To put it simply, I thought that they could be used by any adopter, which was incorrect. They were the results of large amounts of your time, hard work, and energy. You have every right to be angry and disgusted with me, and I realize that. I apologize for my actions, and will either delete the pages and create my own teaching method and pages, or paste a template to the tops of each of these pages thanking you for allowing me to use your pages, if you allow me to do so. Once again, I apologize for my actions and I hope that we can put this whole experience behind us, and start anew. My regards, Laurinavicius (talk) 15:56, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for being so cool with this. Regards, Laurinavicius (talk) 16:01, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject User Rehab

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wikiproject

Ok, if you want to join just sign up. --Abce2|AccessDenied 04:20, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

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I Seek To Help & Repair! (talk) 06:10, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Invitation

I would like to invite you to the League of ffriends. We are a group of wikipedians you like to help others. Just sign up on the page and add the userbox you will find their to your userpage to join!

Congrats for keeping a cool head concerning the Noah's ark conflict. I've read through the article and have to agree with you that it does have a lot of biased content. Gaia Octavia Agrippa | _Sign 12:16, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Adoption Thingy

I would love to join in that program! I took a quick look at Gaia's user page and noticed that she adopted my friend Meteorman7228. I also took a look at the debate raging on the Noah's Ark page that you mentioned(ugh!). You could spend all day arguing with some people and a snail stuck to the floor with superglue would still get farther than you could, pardon the ridiculous metaphor. So will you send me my first "task"? Thanks for suggesting this, I think it'll be fun. Stormcloud22 (talk) 00:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I tried my best, I even went to the help page and looked up how to do headings, and it still didn't work. I'll keep trying though. Stormcloud22 (talk) 00:23, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I got it! Yay! Stormcloud22 (talk) 00:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

None of them turned red. Stormcloud22 (talk) 00:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Nothing turned red, although you forgot to put an apostrophe on Noah's, which is possessive, by the way. Other than that it was fine.Stormcloud22 (talk) 00:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh, crap! The apostrophe was the mistake, wasn't it? And I'm an idiot. It's so second-nature for me to correct typos that I didn't even think of that.Stormcloud22 (talk) 00:59, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

User:Drew R. Smith/Wikihoax

The copyright for the article belongs to the Associated Press, and you are not permitted to maintain the complete content on-wiki. Because you seem unwilling to accede to removal, I have tagged the page—which, I would note, you do not, contra the sense of your reply to me, own—for speedy deletion. Thanks, 68.248.232.222 (talk) 03:02, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Replied at my talk. 68.248.232.222 (talk) 05:46, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Ouch?

Tone a little too much?    7     05:09, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not trying to pick on you, but this is wrong. Just because you give credit to someone doesn't mean you can copy an entire article. Doing so is still a copyright violation. It would have been fine to summarize in your own words and provide a link - but not to cut/paste. Also, the IP user tagged it for deletion and an admin agreed - which is not a problem and not worth threatening them over.    7     05:21, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Question

How do I accept your offer of adoption? Thanks. Programmer13 (talk) 12:55, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Yes, I think your acceptable. Programmer13 (talk) 13:17, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for adopting me! --Monkeyfox (talk) 14:12, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Is it Night For You?

For us its 10:24! Where do you live? Programmer13 (talk) 14:22, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry

I'm Sorry that your Chinese algae eater died. People can get pretty close to their pets. I should know. I'm also sorry about having no job and such. America's really in a financial crisis. Programmer13 (talk) 14:48, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Me to. Seems like a pretty cool type of fish you lost there. Gaia Octavia Agrippa | _Sign 19:56, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Me three the fish looked pretty awesome.Monkeyfox (talk) 21:09, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

(I'm replying ere because so many people are talking at once)Actually, I wasn't that close. My first fish (at least, the first one I bought, and the first one in a long time. My parents got me bettas and goldfish all the time...) was a sailfin molly, who was a beautiful white male with a long sail, died at the hands of this aggressive fish. Were I to have inroduced him into a tank with something a little more suitable to handle his aggressive tendencies, then yes, I may have felt some remorse. As it stands, I had to keep him seperated from the main tank 6 out of 7 days, and had to watch closely else he would eat other fish instead of algae. I did take good care of him, I'm not a killer, but due to the large number of fish that died to him, I wasn't too upset when he died.Drew Smith What I've done 22:21, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

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