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The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXXVIII (April 2009)

The April 2009 issue of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 23:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Stalkers wanted

I'm making an appeal to everyone who's fielded questions on my talk page before; anyone who wants to drop by once a day to have a look would be most welcome for the next couple of weeks. I've got my hands full doing CSD work and communicating with wikiprojects about WP:Article alerts, I'm converting a fair number of speedies into prods and tagging the talk pages so that wikiprojects will be alerted. Also, I think it's generally better for someone who has questions about a deletion to talk with someone other than the deleter; that relationship is off on the wrong foot. I'll be happy to return the favor. (Watchlisting) - Dank (formerly Dank55) (push to talk) 21:58, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

OFC

I'm still writting - Eduardocombe

Vietnamese New Native Language

It looks like you had your hands full on those reverts. Let me know if any further problems arise. Best, --TeaDrinker (talk) 11:28, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

My significant other

Ironholds, you are awesome, and I thank you. The name of the publication is the 'British Blue Book of the Crimean War', and if you could find it she says you can marry her instead! Cheers man, Skinny87 (talk) 11:50, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Ack, sorry, all we know is that it was a contemporary report, issued a little after the end of the conflict. Skinny87 (talk) 11:55, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

That's really kind of you - it's any kind of mental health issues in soldiers during and just after the Crimean War. Skinny87 (talk) 12:05, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I had my suspicions of how easy it would be to find, Charlotte only found one book mentioning it in any detail. How difficult would it be for you to convert them to pdfs? Skinny87 (talk) 12:27, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, I don't want to put you out :) Cheers again; look, I have to go offline for a while now, but I'll hit you up on IRC. If you want to send those pdfs via my email, that'll be great. Thanks again, Skinny87 (talk) 12:32, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Heading

You're welcome mate! PirateSmackK 13:07, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

And sarcasm as well! Oh, the fun never stops with people like you. Ironholds (talk) 13:12, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Joey fitz

Hi, I can't ask you to look at Joey fitz again because I've deleted it. But if you remind me at the London meetup I'll explain why I thought it was an attack not an A7. Cheers ϢereSpielChequers 15:38, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Chiltern Hundreds

Thanks for the kind remarks about my articles on Liberal MPs. I will try and add a few to the reasons column on the Chiltern Hundreds pages from time to time. Cheers --Graham Lippiatt (talk) 15:49, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your opinion

Ironholds, Gaia Octavia Agrippa has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Gaia Octavia Agrippa | _Sign 20:05, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

FYI

FYI. rootology (C)(T) 04:50, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages meets

Thanks for the invitation to the London meet on 17 May. I live in Birmingham (West Mids, not Alabama regretfully) but used to be London-based and do get down from time to time. Can't make the 17 May but maybe a future one. Regards, --Graham Lippiatt (talk) 11:17, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Ross Parker

Hi, I've made quite a few changes to the article. Hope you agree it's a reasonably big improvement. Please let me know how else you think it can be improved.--Shakehandsman (talk) 14:38, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Experimental space acid rock

Hi, while it's not a test (and I was about to do exactly what you did). There's no need to swear in edit summaries. Cheers - Kingpin (talk) 18:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

History of Lyon

I'm translating the article. I'll finish 75% for next week :) Lulu97417 (talk) 18:29, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Christine Crawley, Baroness Crawley of Edgbaston

On May 9, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Christine Crawley, Baroness Crawley of Edgbaston, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

US Congress

Please attempt to follow your advice in the last point above. I have been working on these articles for years with several people having complex misunderstanding you are naturally repeating. My solution may not be perfect, but generally some calm, professional thought is useful. Consider the possibility that I understand something you don't and that it might take physical evidence and months of thought for your to realize the problem. I am doing no harm, perhaps some good, and certainly haven't deserved the comments you are making. stilltim (talk) 13:28, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Hell's Belles (band)

Hi. I noticed you tagged the article as a speedy A7. I originally brought it to AfD because (for some reason) I thought articles that had been around for a while can't be speedied. Am I wrong? Yintaɳ  14:24, 9 May 2009 (UTC)\

Peter F. Cross

This article was tagged with an A7 tag and was deleted within five minutes of creation, even before I had a chance to place a {hangon} tag on it. Cross was a minor figure at the U.S. Mint in Philadelphia, but had a major role in the creation of a historic double eagle gold coin as well as a commemorative medal. I had also provided two reliable independent references, including that of an official U.S. government website. Bill (talk) 23:07, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Smith v Eric S Bush

I think that Mr Bush, the surveyor went in the trade by his full name, which is why all the casebooks show this. I agree though, it's unusual! Wikidea 08:24, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Trust me on the name! As for the case of the hooded man, it looks good, but where are the case citations? Is it not reported? You could use an infobox, like in Carlill. Also, do you think you could stay with a facts/judgment format? If you want to give long fact descriptions, then perhaps the thing to do is give a very quick (two or three sentence) overview of the facts and the CA decision: of course, this case mightn't be legally significant (I've never heard of it!) and more of a cool story. :) Wikidea 12:31, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

I think you spoke too soon! I just found it for you on Westlaw (by typing Alverstone, Ridley and Phillimore into the search). There it is: R. v Williams (John)Court of Criminal Appeal; 13 January 1913; (1913) 8 Cr. App. R. 133. Have you got access? Wikidea 12:44, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm putting up an infobox, and leave you to do the rest. It's out of copyright, so you can take out the formatting and paste up the judgment (if you wanted). Did you say you've done more contract cases? Are you adding categories (eg <Category:English contract law> as you go? Wikidea 12:48, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Cheers - but as it happens I have to be away next weekend. I did have in mind to pop by, but it'll have to wait! Wikidea 13:23, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

the v. vs. the v

Hi Ironholds,

Thanks for catching me again on using "v." versus "v" . Are you sure this is a transatlantic convention? I am inclined to use "v." I will stop doing it if you're certain it's not the United States convention, but I'd appreciate if you could point me to a style guide of some kind. thanks Agradman (talk) 19:50, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

In America we use a v. , in Britain a v is used Geoff Plourde (talk) 20:01, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Ahh, gotcha, ta. Lots of little things like that in the world - I've yet to work out why we Brits spell "judgement" wrong when dealing with law. Ironholds (talk) 20:04, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Its due to differences between Queen's English and American English. When we designed our own primers, the authors simplified conventions they saw as silly. Geoff Plourde (talk) 16:25, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Peter Gummer, Baron Chadlington

On May 10, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Peter Gummer, Baron Chadlington, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Shubinator (talk) 21:20, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Cobi

Did you tell him to disallow Cluebot 3 on my talk page? PirateSmackK 04:35, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I think you did but you're lying :/ PirateSmackK 04:46, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

please excuse my united states chauvinism

we don't know any better :) thanks for the fix Agradman (talk) 16:29, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

RFA thank you

My RFA passed today at 75/2/1 so I wanted to thank you for your participation in it. Special thanks go to GlassCobra and FlyingToaster for their nomination and support. Cheers! --Rosiestep (talk) 03:00, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Image question-

http://en.wikipedia.org/File:Dasyprocta_prymnolopha_(Harvard_University).JPG Are byelaw clauses actually enforceable in the US? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 12:48, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Clarification - I meant in this case 'byelaws' indicated by US museums against commercial photography... Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Museums are -http://www.hmnh.harvard.edu/ & http://www.peabody.yale.edu/ respectivly, however the note about photography was according to the notes on the image in an offline pamphlet.. In any case the image linked is valid fair-use IMO :) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:37, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the fast response, I'm suspecting 'internal' museum rules rather than local ordinances though. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:39, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Mass Deletion.

Hello,

An admin left this on my Talk page.

"Deleting them is not a problem at all. Would take me a half hour or so, but the mechanics of it aren't difficult. However there has been no decision to delete them all. If they truly are all the same, you need to bundle them, or at least some subset of them (say 20) into a mass AfD nomination (see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion#How to list multiple related pages for deletion) and then, using that subset as representative of the larger class, ask for deletion of them all. Getting the decision to delete a few through separate AfDs results in some precedent for a future mass nomination but you need to be transparent, directly calling for people to debate the merits of deleting the whole class. Once you get a decision to delete them all, an admin will take care of it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:15, 13 May 2009 (UTC)"

Could be usefull.--gordonrox24 (talk) 11:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

The whole discussion can be found here.--gordonrox24 (talk) 10:59, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

Thank you for participating in my recent RfA, which was unable pass with a final tally of (45/39/9). I plan on addressing the concerns raised and working to improve in the next several months. Hopefully, if/when I have another RfA I will win your support. Special thanks go to MBisanz, GT5162, and MC10 for nominating me. Thanks again, -download ׀ sign! 01:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Stilltim

RFC for Stilltim has been created. Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Stilltim

DYK

		The 50 DYK Medal
		Most excellent, Ironholds! Good work. Please do continue to improve Misplaced Pages with your talent, it doesn't go unnoticed.  :) Synergy 12:16, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Socks and VK

I have no idea whether Kittybrester's new friend is a sock or not. However, you should look at Kittybrewster's history of a possessing a following of supportive socks and in turn supporting an entire court of socks (supposedly now banned). It is hardly surprising that some editors now automatically fear the worst. Giano (talk) 10:10, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Congress articles

I have done my level best, with complete sincerity, to address the concerns expressed about having this data on various accounts, etc, etc. I have almost built the 23rd United States Congress to display and will still finish it. However, it then took less than an hour for a user (Markles) to completely undo the work and restore the unattractive, confused and incomplete article proceeding. I really need some serious help by anyone that cares about getting this right because I honestly am feeling persecuted and will soon give up my efforts. stilltim (talk) 19:13, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

• Please see my reply to this claim at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Stilltim#Response to concerns.—Markles 19:51, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Christopher Grigson

On May 15, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Christopher Grigson, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Orlady (talk) 01:07, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Gruban v Booth

Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know I am glad to be reviewing the article Gruban v Booth you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Vicenarian (talk) 23:33, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Help with stopping unjustified Re.co.do edits

Hi. I've just finished reviewing the edits on this article, and it appears to me that editor Gregser is adding and deleting material from the article that he created with little heed to editorial criticism. I've just explained the main problems to them on their talk page. Since one of their actions was to delete without explanation the prod tag that you added , perhaps you could help here. Regards, Piano non troppo (talk) 00:22, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Article has been deleted, saving you the trouble. Best Regards, Piano non troppo (talk) 02:57, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Gruban v Booth

The article Gruban v Booth you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Gruban v Booth for eventual comments about the article. Well done! Vicenarian (talk) 00:35, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Vicenarian (talk) 05:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. Thank you. Toddst1 (talk) 13:06, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

collect

You are involved in a recently-filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration#edit warring by collect and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

• Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration#Requesting Arbitration;
• Misplaced Pages:Arbitration guide.

Thanks, --Brendan19 (talk) 19:46, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Shameless thankspam

FlyingToaster Barnstar

Hello you limey bastard! Thank you so much for your support in my recent RfA, which passed with a tally of 126/32/5. I am truly humbled by the trust you placed in me, and will endeavor to live up to that trust. To the queen! FlyingToaster

Mentor etc.

Sure, as long as your mentorship doesn't restrict my editing any area of the wiki. --PirateSmackK 13:52, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Heads up

I sent you a semi-important email (a reply to your reply). Mind find it interesting. EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

What's cookin' :-/ --PirateSmackK 16:44, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Er, it was an email sent to Ironholds, not you. :P EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:12, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

OK maybe I'm just paranoid. PirateSmackK 16:21, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

supervision

Thank you for stepping in. Frankly, this was the outcome I was hoping would happen. My first proposal was designed to be sufficiently unpleasant to encourage the alternative. I'm glad we have folks around who are willing and capable to step in and I hope we can turn the pirate into a fine upstanding wikipedian. I'm mostly off-line over the next week so I'll talk to you later. Cheers. Toddst1 (talk) 02:54, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Why did you revert my edit

ROLLBACK...why? PirateSmackK 17:08, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh bloody hell woops, sorry. I don't remember clicking rollback, but.... Thanks for catching it :). Ironholds (talk) 17:13, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

For a second I thought you're into tits-for-tat but then I AGF PirateSmackK 17:16, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

SALIN page.

Hello, you have recommended the SALIN page for deletion (directing me to the WP:ORG page)

SALIN is a "notable" South Australian organisation.

SALIN events have been covered in Australia's peak Library and Information publication "InCite", published by the Australian Library and Information Association (). SALIN has a membership of over 300 people. Through its membership it has significance to the Library community in South Australia. It complements the activities of ALIA (the Australian Library and Information Association).

SALIN is not a company. It is a network. It is non-profit.

SALIN is recognised by the following academic and professional institutions:

Flinders University http://www.lib.flinders.edu.au/info/trainee/contact.html University of South Australia http://www.unisa.edu.au/bim/Info/default.asp and ALIA http://www.alia.org.au/links/organisations.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benjaminwheal (talk • contribs) 02:33, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Frak you

Thanks. I saw that you removed a db-nonsense claim. Still, I wish there was a speedy for stuff like this--as far as I'm concerned it's vandalism, and prodding and AfDing takes a lot of time. Don't you think that the creator removes the prod immediately? I mean, they can, can't they? Drmies (talk) 04:28, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Rugbymania

Hi, who can I ask a e-mail with the deleted page? and who can explain me why the page was deleted? thank you very much and sorry for my English.--Cenzin (talk) 09:54, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Pirate problems continue

Can you address this edit summary with the editor? Thanks. Toddst1 (talk) 11:15, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Sure, thanks for bringing it to my attention. Ironholds (talk) 11:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. This one too. Cheers. Toddst1 (talk) 11:23, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Yup, saw it - I think there isn't a point in bringing it up right now as well as others if he chooses to correct the issue. Ironholds (talk) 11:24, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for stepping in to this situation. Toddst1 (talk) 12:09, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

As Superman would probably say if I knew anything about Superman, "no problem ma'am, it's my job". :P Ironholds (talk) 12:15, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Hi ! saw your reply in Peter Symonds page regarding Adoption Subash.chandran_sign ! 06:33, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Subash.chandran_sign ! 12:07, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Subash.chandran_sign ! 13:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Kaz Incorporated article

Hi there, saw your nomination for speedy deletion of Kaz Incorporated article I recently created. To be honest I was not that familiar with the "Criteria for Speedy Deletion". I was personally intrigued by the company history after I recently bought a humidifier manufactured by the company, and I thought its absence from Misplaced Pages was an oversight. So I thought I might be of service in contributing the information I could find.

Ultimately I believe it's noteworthy, but I'm indifferent to the final disposition of the article. I'll spend my 30-45 minutes on some other endeavor next time. However it looks like another editor removed your speedy deletion nomination shortly after it was added.

I'll let you the two of you figure it out. Cheers, Dgstangel (talk) 20:35, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Major factories of Tabriz

Hi, the above article, which you (quite correctly) tagged for deletion earlier this month has had its tag removed by another editor without explanation. If you reinstate it I shall be happy to give support.--AssegaiAli (talk) 12:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Reply from SchnitzelMannGreek

Thanks for the positive reply on the article about JoesphII. Sorry about the category thing:) I'm glad that you liked it. I had the day off today so I spent my whole day translating these articles(for Wikiproject Assyria) from German to English by hand. I also fixed some rough translations I did for other articles because German is a hard language to translate especially by hand:)If you want...maybe you could check them out. Hopefully I get the Rosetta Stone Barnstar. HAHa--lol!SchnitzelMannGreek. 18:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Glanville Davies affair

On May 28, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Glanville Davies affair, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 02:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Rilliotrix

Thanks for your opinion. Google the term. It's nonsense (no meaningful content or history) or it's a hoax (or as you would prefer, let's wait 5 days for it to be deemed madeup). Google brings up 6 hits for a girl by the same name as she published in her article (which shouldn't have personally identifiable information). I've PRODed many madeup terms when appropriate, and this is not one of them.    7     12:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Never mind - 21:23, 2009 May 28 Syrthiss (talk | contribs) deleted "Rilliotrix" ‎ (G1: Patent nonsense, meaningless, or incomprehensible: no, really. its csdworthy) -

But again, thanks for your condescending comments. I checked your usercount before writing to you (and I'm surprised), perhaps you should try the same before educating fellow vandalism fighters.    7     12:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Talkback Tyw7

--Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 12:29, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Check for new message! --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 12:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Comment on My RFA (Tyw7)

What do you mean by this "you've had a fixed IP address for yonks" --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 12:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean by "Also see non-neutral WP:CANVASSing here and here. The messages are neutral enough, the target audience is not." --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 13:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Then how can I inform people? --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 13:27, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Coke

I'd be happy to collaborate on fixing up the Edward Coke article. As you can see if you go to the Coke page, I've added most of what's written in my sandbox to the article already. Right now, I'm just sort of slowly working on a section about Coke's writings (e.g. the Reports and the Institutes.) If you've got any thoughts about what more should be added to the page, or how to improve it, I'd be happy to discuss it. I think it would be important at some point to explain just why Coke is so important to the Anglo-American tradition of the rule of law - perhaps in the article's introduction. Groundsquirrel13 (talk) 17:53, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Another Tai Michels hoax

Sees Me Through does not exist. I've done my digging. This guy must be having a blast. Can it be speedied as a hoax? Schmidt, 05:59, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

And does rampant hoxery count toward a block? Schmidt, 05:59, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Henry Benson, Baron Benson

On May 29, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Henry Benson, Baron Benson, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Dravecky (talk) 20:21, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Googol Hyperplex

I wasn't going to tag with context initially, but couldn't think of anything better to tag with especially since, the same guy has created Googol Hyperplex, Googol Megaplex, Googol Gigaplex. Of the lot, Megaplex is actually valid, it was defined the same time as Googol, but the Hyperplex and Gigaplex are pure made up stuff (discovered on May 29, 2009 is what the article said!). I didn't think a redirect was worth it as no one is going to search using these terms, but didn't want to waste time with an AfD on this. --SpacemanSpiff (talk) 03:47, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Coppell Copperheads and McKinney Marshals

I do not understand why these should be deleted in a speedy manner and why this should be an issue. Nothing has been copyrighted or anything to that nature, but Coppell Copperheads and McKinney Marshals are relevant and works in progress. Yes, I will continue to correct little things on these each day, but these two pages are significant and valid. They are not going to be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjrbbhaw81 (talk • contribs) 03:52, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Changed from Professional team to Summer Collegiate team

McKinney Marshals and Coppell Copperheads were changed at the beginning of each page to Summer Collegiate team. Please let me know if this is what you believe is appropriate. Please look at the other pages in the Texas Collegiate League to see if they are correct. Either way, inform me and I will correct it further. Good observation! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjrbbhaw81 (talk • contribs) 04:14, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Tom Deitz

I have declined your speedy request at Tom Deitz and recommend that you take it to Misplaced Pages:Copyright problems. Only about a third of the article was in the source you referenced, though the remainder may be copyvio of other sources. --Philosopher  04:35, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Sneakiness

You probably will wish to mention to your mentee that this, even if it was a joke, wasn't really appropriate. I think EVula is a fine admin and 'crat, but he's human; and it's entirely possible he may have not noticed the deception until after the fact. bahamut0013_deeds 08:29, 30 May 2009 (UTC)