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Thats great but what did we win? Baku87 07:55, 9 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Independence, peace and prosperity. Rembember that Azerbaijan and Baku was one of Hitler's main targets in Barbarossa, and he did come close to taking them. As much as a million Azerbaijanis fought against the Nazi agressor, and 58,400 paid the ultimate price for the defence of their homeland. Many were given the highest award, the Hero of the Soviet Union. During the war Azerbaijani oil also supplied the lifeblood to Soviet planes and vehicles - petrol. Those facts are not empty and it is worth rembering all those veterans, because I doubt if the fascist regime would have had any sympathies for Azerbaijanis. --Kuban Cossack 16:04, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

I know about Azerbaijan her role in the WOII, the Battle of Stalingrad was also about Baku. Your right but man 20 million comrades died and half of them were civilians, that was a damn high price to pay. My grandfather and his brother also fought in the war, my grandpa was a tankcommander during the war and he lost his arm and all his best friends, his brother was a spy in Spain but he suddenly got lost in Spain and was never found or heard of him again. Do you know anyone personal who experienced the war, maybe you would like to tell me about him or her? Also Kuban maybe we should make some sort of a stub of this star for all the former Soviet Republic members what do you think? Baku87 17:57, 9 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Of course I do, both of my grandparents fought. From my mother's line, my grandfather was a frontal recons man, before every atack it was his job to crawl right up to the German frontlines and instal remote-operated smoke screens which right before the atack would be then activated and our tanks would have valuable time to approach the German positions and pop out of the smoke right in front of them. Five times he got wounded, but lived on. My fathers father was the commander of a Cossack company and started at 17 in Karachaevo-Cherkessia, when they employed old Cossack tactics of running down from the mountains onto the German columns along with the Cherkess people, then he participated in purging the Germans from our steppes and then along the South of Ukraine went all the way into Vienna (here he is third row fourth from the left at the famous victory parade in 1945). As for World War II articles then sure, definetely. I would have expanded on the topic on History of Azerbaijan, but unfortunately it is locked. --Kuban Cossack 18:45, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing your story very interessting, you have a real kick ass grandfather, but then again you Cossacks always have been fighter people havent you. Baku87 16:27, 11 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Photo copyrights (again)

Hi Baku87, the photos you are uploading with the tag that you have given permission to have it used off of your website have me wondering if you had the right to use them on your website to begin with. http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Khojaly_survivor.jpg and http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Khojaly_Genocide.jpg (among others) are scanned from a magazine and in black and white, respectively. Did you actually take these photos? Did you get permission from the photographers to use them? They are clearly not old enough to have had the copyright expire. Please clarify this issue, as I am tempted to put a tag for removal due to copyright violation. Now personally, I am sure that the authors would not mind your using them on this site, but that is not the same as actually giving permission. --RaffiKojian 02:52, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I know you would love nothing else then to see these pictures to be removed but all the pictures are from my own site and I have already dealt with that issue. All the pictures are from the Heydar Aliyev Foundation were I have permission to use their materials. I already dealt with this once and all my pictures got removed, later I was able to proof them that I have permission.Baku87 13:24, 12 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Aw, don't be so paranoid - I just noticed that a number of pictures you have supplied (not just these) didn't seem likely to have been taken by you, so your release of rights seemed a bit strange to me. You have not archived older conversations here, so there is no way I could know that this has been addressed properly. I suggest you create archive pages - and even suggest you leave a note about the photos on this page at all times. I will assume (in good faith) that the Heydar Aliyev Foundation had the rights to the photos. This same issue had come up with Armenian Genocide photos (which are 90 years old), so when I saw such recent photos, which it seemed highly unlikely you had taken, I did feel the need to bring up the issue of copyright. Later, --RaffiKojian 04:39, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

How sad that politics spill into what is considered proper copyright citation. I've been helping Baku87 keep these photos online --he initially didn't put a tag alongside the links to the external links so OrphanBot, etc would auto delete them. Now, unless you can prove your claims, why not keep your issues with Baku87 to whatever content Armenians/Azeris/Turks and their allies like to "discuss" (really, it's quite entertaining to the rest of us). -- Bobak 18:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm happy to provide you with entertainment (that's why I'm here on Misplaced Pages), but what claim specifically are you requesting I prove? --RaffiKojian 20:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

We're all entertainers, really... but I specifically refer to your points in your first salvo. If you want to start tagging his photos, please have sufficient proof because I will be on the other side arguing for their remaining here. --Bobak 21:03, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I see, but since Baku87 had already addressed my concerns (see his reply above), I am satisfied. Sorry. --RaffiKojian 03:36, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

In that case accept my apology as well, Misplaced Pages makes a person a little cynical sometimes. I also apologize to Baku87 who is "hosting" our conversation :-) --Bobak 18:24, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

No worries, Bobak. I certainly know how WP can make one a bit cynical at times! --RaffiKojian 02:58, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

No problem, by the way Bobak thanks for helping me out with the licence issue. Baku87 18:13, 15 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Hello from Georgia

Hi. I just wanted to say thanks for voting on the Misplaced Pages Project/Georgia topic and for your contributions to Misplaced Pages. It would be good if we can work together to standardize some of the pages about the Caucasus just to give the readers a better idea about the region in general. With Best Regards, D.Papuashvili 17:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey no problem bro, thank you guys for trying to show a better perspective of Caucasus Baku87 09:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Wikiproject Azeri

Hi, thanks, I'm also looking forward to work in this project--Hattusili 21:34, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Completely apolitical copyright request

Hi Baku, I don't have any business at all on the Caucasus articles, though I do know that contributers like you have been doing a good job on them. Please don't take what I am saying as the result of any hidden agenda! I have been getting wound up by a range dodgy, dubious, and false copyright claims all over Misplaced Pages, and now I have found by chance a couple of your pictures which are (I am sure) completely legitimate but which look just as bad on first discovery. You need to cover your back a little better :-) Image:Khojaly Genocide.jpg, for instance, has a "rights irrevocably removed tag" used on it, so at least it is tagged, and you source it to your own website, which is also a good step. The critical thing is that you still haven't shown that you had the right to put it on your own website. If I took any image I wanted, put it on my geocities site, then pointed a link to it from Misplaced Pages to show how "mine" it was, nobody would take me seriously. Of course, I believe you haven't actually done that, but it looks no different to an outside observer (like the overworked and wikistressed-out people who run the images for deletion and copyright violations pages - they do a fantastic job, against very hard odds, trying to keep this encyclopedia as genuinely "free" as possible, and in return get a lot of grief from people whose photos get deleted). If you are using the material on your website by permission, then you ought to say so (this is what happens in Misplaced Pages when we use media material from a 3rd party who licensed it to us after a request for permission - records are kept of the emails and they are available for display). One place you ought display this is the "permission" page on your own website. Another is actually on your uploaded files themselves (because your website may not be there forever, but Misplaced Pages should be!). But take care: you clearly are not the owner of the images if you are just using them by permission, unless you have actually had ownership transferred to you as well. You need to publish very clearly the exact terms you have been allowed to use those media under. If somebody has just licensed them for use on Misplaced Pages, they have to be deleted (per Jimbo Wales - "Misplaced Pages-only" permissions are no longer acceptable), and similarly if they were licensed specifically for your site. If they genuinely have had "all rights released" then (and only then) is the current template correct, though it wouldn't be correct to say the uploader is the owner. If you need to go back and ask for wider permission, you may be able to get the pictures released under a slightly more restrictive license instead (like GFDL or Creative Commons). Anyway, you really must publish the exact terms of the license that was granted so it is possible to check which template to be used. And it would help very much if you could show that the person you are negotiating with actually is the owner of the copyright!

Please remember: images and other media are guilty until proven innocent because there's really no other way round it can be. If you are making a claim that those works no longer have copyright restrictions on them, then you need to prove it - it's not for a would-be deleter to prove the other way round. Even though we assume good faith (and I am 100% definitely assuming good faith - after all the effort you've been through, it would be weird for you to be deliberately uploading material you know you don't have the rights to) it's true that a lot of people (in good faith) get the law wrong, so we delete it anyway. It doesn't matter how many people vote in your support to say your faith is good - claiming that something that clearly (under normal circumstances) belongs to someone else is actually yours to give away is something you need good evidence to back yourself up with. It's a bit like being caught handing out the crown jewels to poor children... a very worthy act, and 100% legitimate if the King had privately decided to give them to you to do what you will with, but you shouldn't be surprised if people who weren't in the room at the time demand to know exactly what the King ("if you ever met him at all", say they) did tell you you could do with the jewels, and not believe your word for it. And in this wiki, there will be people (and you have met them and they have probably annoyed the hell out of you) asking those questions not because they have any deep moral desire to uphold the laws of property, but because they don't want certain things to get out into the public eye. You're doing yourself, and the wider world that wants and needs to see these things for ourselves, a great favour if you take the care to get those copyright statuses dealt with thoroughly and publicly, so all can see and nobody can criticise or take them away. Simply a bona fide and agendaless request, TheGrappler 14:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

All my pictures on my site are from the Heydar Aliyev Foundation, who's headquarters is in Baku, Azerbaijan. Even the tekst in my site is from them! I have permission of them to use their pictures and teksts, why else do you think I upload these pictures, I wouldnt have uploaded if I knew they were gonna be deleted, it would be pointless. Im not sure how to proof this to you as I dont have real proof at the moment. But here is a picture of the Heydar Aliyev Foundation headquarters in Baku, so you know it really exists and here is their official site. Im going to visit Azerbaijan this summer, I actually got some real plans but to solve this problem I will try to arrange some proof. What kind of proof would be enough? Baku87 19:55, 31 May 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Maybe just a scanned letter from the director of the foundation that writes that they allow the use of the images for educational purposes (like Misplaced Pages) just so long as the author of the source is credited. That and probably a timestamp on it. By the way, the word "teksts" is written "text" and the term is both singular and plural.--MarshallBagramyan 15:41, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, try and get let a letter! Thinking about this: it would definitely not be enough for them to agree for use for educational purposes. They would have to agree for commercial purposes too, and allow the photographs to be manipulated or edited in any way. This is part of what makes Misplaced Pages a "free content" encyclopedia - the content can be reused by anybody (including for-profit organizations) for any purpose. What you really could do with is for them to release under a license like the Creative Commons. One other problem (sorry, yet another...) - why do they have the copyright to license in the first place? They may have collected the physical photographs, but why do they actually have the copyright to the photographs, which usually belongs to the photographer? I can collect photographs of a famous event, make a gallery of them for people to visit, but without owning any of the copyrights, which would mean I could not license them to anybody else. So, basically there are two things you need to show: (1) the institute actually has the copyright (not obvious) and (2) they allow people to use the photographs under some kind of free license (not a "for educational purposes" license). Hope this helps. TheGrappler 01:51, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Image at Azerbaijani people

Hi Baku,

I noticed you changed the image back. The problem is, we need to have an Iranian Azeri in the picture, and most editors agree that we should have Khamenei. Perhaps you could raise your concerns on the talk page before changing the image again, thanks. —Khoikhoi 22:18, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I thought it was vandalism, anyways Im going to request to change it into a female, thanks! Baku87 09:04, 1 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Ok, feel free to make a comment at Talk:Azerbaijani people. We'll see what others have to say. —Khoikhoi 01:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Image of Khojaly Massacre

Baku, do you have a higher quality image showing/symbolizing the Khojaly massacre than the current one we have on the Nagorno-Karabakh war article? If so, then we should upload it to the article.--MarshallBagramyan 04:41, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes I have a couple better pictures but Im still awaiting permission for usage Baku87 20:40, 10 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Regarding Azerbaijani people

Hello Baku. Thanks for the welcome! I believe Grandmaster contacted you, or will soon, about some great pictures you have that we could use for the article. I specified which pictures I believe (4 of them) would look great in the Azeris article. Let me once they're uploaded and ready to be put into the article. Cheers. Tombseye 21:06, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I'm going to add these pictures right now. I'll see what else might be needed, but if you can take pictures of historical places and, if possible, Lezgians and other minority groups as those pictures could useful to many articles in wikipedia, that'd be great. Other than that have fun! ;) Tombseye 21:28, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Question

Hi, do you have any images that you could upload of the village Xınalıq? I'd like to start an article about it.

BTW, I hope there are no hard feelings about the dispute we got in over the image. Ciao. —Khoikhoi 18:34, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I have been to Xınalıq once and I did take a couple of pictures but it will take time to find those. And dont worry no hard feelings, I hope you agree on the stage point. Baku87 18:39, 11 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

By the way hard city there, heavy air not to mention cold air easily -20 celcius, it almost hurts to breath, my longs were full of snow. Its best to take stops at other locations before going from Baku to Xınalıq directly cuz the huge climate difference might be to strong. Baku87 18:51, 11 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Hmmmm, I hear they speak a different language threre, but when looking at this map I don't see it. Is Quba the region where the Tats and Mountain Jews live? —Khoikhoi 19:03, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I dont know about a different language they spoke normal Azeri with me but the location is pretty isolated so it would surprise me if they speak a addentional language or perhaps Azeri is the addentional language. Also I found the picture but these are not take by me though a friend of my gave them to me, and offcourse I have his permission to publish them. Baku87 17:42, 13 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

These are pretty good pictures but Im getting a error everytime I try to upload: The file you uploaded seems to be empty. This might be due to a typo in the file name. Please check whether you really want to upload this file.

Any suggestions?Baku87 17:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Ök I solved the problem, it seemed that wikimedia is discriminating the word Xinaliq :P I wasnt able to upload when the picture was named Xinaliq, but its fixed now, see the pics at:

• Xinaliq People
• Xinaliq residents
• The only road to Xinaliq
• Xinaliq Village
• Mountains of Xinaliq
• Xinaliq view

Wow, those are amazing! I've added the images to my gallery so I can eventually create an article. :D Thanks again. —Khoikhoi 03:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Im glad you like it :) Baku87 22:40, 16 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

BTW

The term "Iranian Azerbaijan" should be used rather than "South Azerbaijan" as the latter is too political, while the former is purely geographic. —Khoikhoi 20:05, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I dont use the term South Azerbaijan on wikimedia maybe I made some mistake but I meant Iranian Azerbaijan. Baku87 20:10, 11 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

You used it right here. :p BTW, are you the webmaster of Travel-Images.org? That site has some great images. —Khoikhoi 20:13, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Ow dang well it goes automatic cuz we call it Guney Azerbaycan which means South Azerbaijan. Im not the webmaster of travel-images.com but I have contributed alot to that site how else do you think Azerbaijan has got one of the most pictures (about 15 pages) :P Baku87 20:18, 11 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Heh, it seems that there are too many pictures there. Later. —Khoikhoi 23:39, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

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Hey

Hey, Baku,

I'm an Armenian and I've come to wish you good will. Hopefully, this whole Karabakh conflict will be resolved someday. I found this online. Have you heard it before? -- Clevelander 22:34, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I wish you the best to! Also I have heard that song before, thats Rashid Behbudov Baku87 15:50, 21 June 2006 (UTC)Baku87

Regarding the picture you put up in Azeris

Hello Baku. Nice picture you put up in Azeris, but can you identify who the couple are specifically? The source just goes to the Torino Olypmics and I couldn't find the couple. If you could put in their names that would help a lot. Thanks! Tombseye 14:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

The female is Kristin Fraser who is of American ethnicy with Azerbaijani nationality and the male is Igor Lukanin he's of Azerbaijani ethnicy and naionality (but born in Russia). But I didnt report the ethnicy in the thumbtekst though. By the way Tombseye I got this real nice picture of Azeri dance, this one gives a much better view of the dance then the currect one in the Azerbaijani people article, should I replace that picture? Baku87 14:53, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello Baku. Okay that's fine. Although you might want to keep the people on the page ethnic Azeris (which Igor is and Kristin isn't), as other editors will wonder as well who they are. I mean since the page is about ethnic Azeris, it could create problems in the future. Wow, a better dance picture than the one already there? I gotta see this as I really like the current dance picture! Post it on the discussion page in Azeris. If it's a lot better than we should definitely replace the current one. Tombseye 21:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Image:Sattar Khan.jpg and Image:TabrizRevolutionaries.JPG

Sorry to moan about copyright yet again (see above... I put in a reply) but Image:Sattar Khan.jpg and Image:TabrizRevolutionaries.JPG seem to have the wrong copyright tag on it. The one you have used only works if you can prove the photographer died before 1905. Since the photographer isn't identified, and given the historical information available, this seems highly unlikely. Copyright goes back a long, long time in some instances. It is possible these are public domain for another reason but "photographer died 100 years ago" will almost certainly not be it :) TheGrappler 01:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Dang your right about that but I only uploaded the first picture and I do know that the exact same photo of Sattar Khan was released in USSR. I have putted this tag up and to get it done I have already asked permission for public useage just waiting reponse now. Baku87 07:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Here's something else that might help with the Sattar Khan and also others maybe: Also, I believe the retroactive laws only apply to the past 50 years in the former Soviet Union. In the case of Sattar Khan and the revolutionaries, this may apply as well. Tombseye 18:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately even the "PD-Soviet" template is highly disputed - the bad news is that anything published in the USSR is considered as co-published in all its successor states. Georgia applies the standard "70 years after creator's death" even though Russia has a more liberal release date. However, since this was a picture taken and published in Imperial Russia, I don't know whether only the modern Russian law applies or whether Georgian law does too (which would be silly, but the law is an ass; if the USSR was the successor state to Imperial Russia it may follow that Georgia is an indirect successor state to Imperial Russia too!) TheGrappler 11:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually, Russia is the only legal successor to USSR. I know about the dispute on tags, but I think we should employ a more liberal approach to this, since no one ever filed any complaints in any court of law about wikipedia images from former USSR. Regards, Grandmaster 11:58, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Please Do not Make Personal Attacks and Be Civil

What do you make such a judgment on? Is it based on the fact that I say Azaris and Armenians are equal and all humans are equal? Or is it base don the fact that I say people's suffering should not be exploited and politized? There suffering should be respected. This is an uncivil attack ]. Also please sign user:Baku87 I am pretty sure you know how to sign your name. Anonomous comments, especially when uncivil are actually trolling. That reminds me how am I trolling? You have made an uncivil attack against me, user:Baku87 . You have no authority or grounds to make such claims especially wants saying a am anti-Azari when I myself am a Azari. 69.196.164.190

Urgh.. my bad I thought you were User:72.57.230.179 who has been constantly anti-Azeri. I checked your talk page and it looks like some other people have seen you as User:72.57.230.179 aswell. You just reminded me instantly of User:72.57.230.179 I guess IP names are just confussing :P my bad really, no hard feelings I hope. Baku87 12:23, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

THat is okay; like I said I was acting in good faith and I guess user:Grandmasters accusations fueled the fire. I did complain to the admins. after, but that is fine as long as it was a one time thing. No one is perfect. Aplology accepted. I am glad you are mature enough to apologize for you mistakes. We might al not agree, but we can be civil to each other and agree to disagree. Thank you. 69.196.164.190

Nakhichevan photographs

Hey Baku, how are those Nakhichevan photographs coming along? I'm enthusiastic to see them. -- Clevelander 20:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

I wont be able to travel to Nakhichevan, instead my friend is in Nakhichevan right now he'll be sending me the photos of some natural park and mountains. I think he will return august or something like that, I'll ask for some pictures right now Baku87 09:46, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Azerbaijan SSR State Anthem

Hey Baku,

I'm working on translating the Soviet state anthems of the republics from the South Caucasus. So far, I've been able to track down or translate the Georgian and Armenian anthems, but I've had no luck with the one from Azerbaijan (a really enjoyable and energetic piece, in my opinion). If it wouldn't be any trouble could you translate it from Azeri to English? The article can be found here: Anthem of Azerbaijan SSR Thanks! -- Clevelander 02:49, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Hey Baku,

First off, welcome back. :) I have to say however that I reverted your edit to Azerbaijani people because they appeared to be valid articles relating to the subject. Remember that Misplaced Pages should include all POVs, including that of the Iranian government. ;) —Khoikhoi 06:30, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

If so then it should also include the other 2 theories (Turkic and Caucasian origin) and besides there is already a redirect to those pages, including only the Iranian side in the see also part doesnt seem really neutral dont you agree Baku87 21:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Separate pages for the other theories dont't exist - you're welcome to create them. —Khoikhoi 21:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

copyvio?

Can you look pnto the Talk:History_of_religions_in_Azerbaijan#Copyright_violation_.3F and clear the matter? abakharev 01:41, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

This matter was brought up in March 2006, and Misplaced Pages procedures were not followed. Please ensure that proper GFDL indicators are placed on GFDL material on the orignal web site(s). Is the original English version from website, A: http://www.euro-caspian.com/religions_history.htm or B: http://www.azerbaijan.az/_GeneralInfo/_TraditionReligion/_traditionReligion_e.html ? Also, while clearing up the copyright problem, could you look into the source(s) issue? Bejnar 03:19, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

The pictures and text from my site comes from azerbaijan.az and offcourse I have permission for this and I also got the permission to use them on wikimedia. Just so you know it azerbaijan.az is owned by the Heydar Aliyev Foundation and Im a member of that foundation and thats how I got the permission Baku87 21:18, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Summaries

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I forget that everytime, but fill it in whenever I can, is it required? Baku87 18:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

It's "strongly encouraged". Helps highlight what you're changing. Even a brief "typo fix", or "fmt headings" short comment is good. Best regards, --Oscarthecat 18:03, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I understand your point, I'll try my best to fill it in everytime, but its so small and I have a 19inch screen so I kinda overlook it sometimes, thanks for the reminder. Baku87 18:05, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Nakhichevan

Baku, did your friend come through on those pctures of Nakhichevan? -- Clevelander 21:46, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes he did, I'll upload the pictures as soon as I find them, but its not what you would expect of Nakhichevan though. Baku87 07:43, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm anxious to see these pictures. Have you found them yet? -- Clevelander 01:14, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

One of several versions ...

(see Ag-Gol National Park). Mr Stephen 22:39, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction buddy :) Baku87 14:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

National parks / National parks of Azerbaijan

Hi. You don't need to add "National parks" as a category to articles already categorised as "National parks of Azerbaijan", because the category "National parks of Azerbaijan" is already in any case a subcategory of the category "National parks", so it doesn't give any additional information. Best wishes, HeartofaDog 09:09, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Logo

The new logo looks better. But unfortunately on the image page it reads "Please ask for permission before using this logo," which, copyright-wise, seems to be incompatible with wikipedia's guidelines. Peter O. (Talk) 12:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Well by that I mean I dont want anyone to edit that logo, I edited my describtion but can you correct the copyright that fits to it please. Baku87 14:34, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Attacking to Turkic peoples espcially to Turks, Azeriz, please take a look

Salam, Məndə Azəricəyi orta seviyyede başa düşürəm faqat İnglisça yazayim sən bana Azərica cevap yazabilərsin. There are some pan-Iranists put incorrect informations to the Turko-Iranian, Turkic peoples, Pan-Turkism, List of Azerbaijanis, Iranian Theory Regarding Azeri's articles and more but we wanted help from Wikiproject Turkey, we some Turks try to stop them but I think Wikiproject Azerbaijan should battle with them also. Regards- Zaparojdik 22:23, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello, yes we are aware of the Iranian POV agenda thats been developing here on wikipedia, several of WikiProject Azeri members have been activily discussing with the Iranian members to halt the POV. But I agree there must be more and better coorperation between the Turkic people, I have just recently created WikiProject Turkic, in order to have smoother coorperation between Turkic people we should work under one WikiProject. Im still working on the pages of WikiProject Turkic any help would be great. Remember brother we are Bir millet iki devlet Baku87 19:36, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi

Well, good to be here :) I will try to help out as mush as I can. Kolay Gelsin! Baristarim 22:50, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

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Its submitted for deletion which I agree so why waste time? Baku87 15:10, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply

I am sorry it took me a while to reply.. I agree with your above statement that there needs to be better cooperation between the Turkic people.. I just signed my name to WP Turkic, but then learned that it was being considered for deletion, why?? In any case we will have to do with respective WP countries then :)).. I also created a page yesterday called Turkey-Azerbaijan relations, but it still needs a whole lot of improvement - I only copied the relevant text from foreign relations of turkey article.. Cheers! Baristarim 00:44, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Logo copyright

I'm sorry, but you need to allow the logo to be edited by anyone for any purpose, not just for this WikiProject. Otherwise it could be deleted or another person could just create a different logo. Peter O. (Talk) 01:28, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Azerbaijanis article and Pishevari

Hi,

There is a dispute on the Pishevari issue on the Azerbaijanis article. Some editors want to remove any reference to info. from Encyclopaedia of Islam regarding linguistic grievances of Azeris, as one of the factors of Pishevari's movement. I would appreciate if you join in the discussion on Talk Page.Heja Helweda 05:43, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Could you perhaps giv eme the direct link to the discussion as I dont know were it is Baku87 21:39, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi again, Here is the link for discussions on Pishevari.Heja Helweda 23:03, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Also here is the link from Encyclopaedia of Islam; Tabriz Article. The following is the paragraph removed by some editors:

In 1945, Iranian Azeris led by Jafar Pishevari, declared autonomy (Azerbaijan People's Government) in Azeri populated areas of north-western Iran. This local government capitalized on some genuine local grievances against centralization policies during Reza Shah's reign and discrimination against the use of Azeri language . The autonomous government was based in Tabriz and issued its own bank notes ,. It also implemented land and labor reforms, and made Azeri the official language of government and education. In the following years, Tabriz and Iranian Azerbaijan suffered from the profound suspicions of the Tehran government regarding secessionist sentiment.Heja Helweda 23:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Azerbaijani national heroes

Can you please explain why you removed the AfD notice from Azerbaijani national heroes . Thanks, Sarah Ewart (Talk) 23:19, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Could you perhaps explain to me why you or some anti-Azeri guy is constantly deleting this article, there is nothing wrong with it Baku87 14:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

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Military pictures

Seconds before I could do it these got re-added by another editor, but they are back now, I have added the page to my "watchlist". --Drappel 14:49, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I re-added the gallery of images per your request. In the future, please do not accuse any ethnic group when you are requesting my help. Simply say something like "an anonymous editor removed images in an article without reason and I need assistance in restoring them." I will choose not respond to a request presented to me with that type of wording again. -Nv8200p talk 14:59, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I see that some of the pictures have been deleted if you have copies it may be possible that if you upload them again with the same name that they will reappear--Drappel 15:11, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the help, good to see the article complete again :) Baku87 08:27, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Arran

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Ossetia Controversy

Hi Baku, no problems on the aid. My time zones are all messed up, but there's a short paragraph in the timeline of events talking about the bombing of Vaziani. I'll edit in the information about the planes being from the Russian airbase in Armenia. Kingnavland (talk) 20:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye out for it - I feel like the burden is on him to show unreliability or irrelevance. Kingnavland (talk) 23:15, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

2008 South Ossetia War - edit summaries

Please be sure to use a meaningful edit summary with each edit - especially in a contentious article as this. Thanks. Toddst1 (talk) 00:44, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Your edits seem fine. I've been keeping an eye on the article since I blocked 2 editors earlier today each for WP:3RR violations. It's hard to see what's going on if folks don't use edit summaries. I've left similar notes on each of the prominent editors on the article who haven't been using edit summaries. Please keep up the great work. Toddst1 (talk) 00:58, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually Baku87, please mind the reverts. You have done 7 Reverts on that article today. Normally you are only allowed 3 per day per article but some might argue that the nature of your reverts fall under the scope of WP:ARBAA2 and hence you are only allowed 1 revert per week. Please refrain from making further reverts related to Armenian-Azerbaijan in that article for one week. Feel free to post to talk a better source than apa.az regarding possible flights of Russian aircraft from Armenia. Thanks Pocopocopocopoco (talk) 04:57, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

South Ossetia

Actually I didn't remove it. What I did was, I combined the mercenaries with the volunteers from Azerbaijan. That source is still there, it just is isn't as bold as it was earlier. --Tocino 22:09, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Volunteers

I promise will make a note that some of the volunteers are from Azerbaijan tomorrow. Probably in the international reaction section (International reaction to the 2008 South Ossetia War). However for now i must sleep, i promise i will add it tomorrow after i finish work. Thanks for letting me know. Peace Ijanderson977 (talk) 22:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Someone added it for me. Ijanderson977 (talk) 21:01, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

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İngilizce Vikipedi'deki Türkiye maddesi

Merhaba! Sizden İngilizce Vikipedi'deki Türkiye maddesinde şeriat yanlısı ve Atatürk düşmanı ve Pakistan'dan ayrılan bir ülkenin vatandaşı bir kullanıcıya karşı yürüttüğüm mücadeleme destek vermenizi istiyorum. Türkiye maddesinin tartışma sayfasına girip alttaki oylama bölümüne ingilizce olarak Katılmıyorum yazmanız yeterli olacaktır (Yanına bir kaç neden de yazarsanız iyi olur). Tanıdığınız bütün Atatürkçü ve Türkiye'de laikliğe destek veren kullanıcıları da haberdar ederseniz sevinirim. Teşekkürler! --Turkish Flame 19:54, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

A message from me

Salam Baku. I see you are very active on wikipedia. I just wanted to wish you success --Babakexorramdin (talk) 15:44, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

POV

Hi Baku87. I saw you placed the POV-tag in some Nagorno-Karabakh related articles. However, if you dont agree with the content of an article, you should first explain what is according to you wrong and only after that place the tag, otherwise it will be removed. Thanks for your understanding. Greets --Vacio (talk) 15:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Since the region is officialy considered as part of Azerbaijan its only logical to at least note that but it wasnt, thats why I placed it Baku87 (talk) 16:57, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, I understand. But remember Misplaced Pages wiil not decide the possession of any disputed region. There is a large subarticle about the international status of Nagorno-Karabakh in the article Nagorno-Karabakh Republic. I think there is no need to speak about that topic in some historical monument-articles. Anyway, If you don't agree with my removal of the POV-tag from those articles, please bring up your objections on the relevant talk page. If you have questions ask me here. And have a nice weekend :-)Greets --Vacio (talk) 09:53, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah offcourse, I understand. I think the problem can easily be solved if we take the approach of article Nagorno-Karabakh in which it notes that NK is an unrecognised, but de facto independent republic, which under international law is officially part of the Republic of Azerbaijan. Adding this to the mentioned articles will be more objective and less misleading and we can remove the POV tag, do you agree?Baku87 (talk) 12:17, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Re-categorization of cities, towns and villages in Azerbaijan

Hi -- I noticed that the category for cities towns and villages in Azerbaijan contains more than 5,900 articles. I am considering creating categories for cities towns and villages in each province, and filing the articles under those. This should make the articles easier to find and use. Do you think this is a good idea? I'd like comments from you and any others in the Azerbaijan project before I start working on it. Aelfthrytha (talk) 01:32, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Atashgah of Baku

Atashgah of Baku

http://en.wikipedia.org/Atashgah_of_Baku

You are needed here. Despite the abundance of Local Azeri Zoroastrian accounts, some Indians push still theire POV--Babakexorramdin (talk) 13:19, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Sagh ol for your good work on Atashgah of Baku. I wished more Iranians and also those from republic of Azerbaijan took the case as seriously as you do.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 20:36, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Your welcome.Baku87 (talk) 20:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the good work. Afarin.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 22:28, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

A photo from Baku

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Thanks for the notification, I edited it. Its the Philharmonic Hall but its also known as the Puppet Theater (eventhough it has nothing to do with puppets) Baku87 (talk) 11:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

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Abusive language

I am annoyed at your last attacks against me. I can understand your are not happy with the nomination of you maps for deletion (which I belive was in accordence with WP rules). However I can not go along with when you accuse me for "leading an anti-Azerbaijan campaign" and when you left an edit summary as "Nationalistic wet dreams by Vacio". I experience such an abusive language harmful for WP:AGF policy and demand from you an account for it. --Vacio (talk) 10:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

That seems only fair it you also accuse VartanM for abusive language against me in here and note I just copied and pasted his words. Qoute: Nationalistic wet dreams by Baku87. VartanM

Or this qoute also by VartanM: your maps are simply nationalistic ejaculation. VartanM

I dont know what you demand of me, but I will add I equally experience such an abusive language by VartanM harmful for WP:AGF policy. Baku87 (talk) 11:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I am not responsible for what user VartanM or other user said. You have not the right to offend me, if an other user has offended you. I have never had Anti-Azerbaijani motives for my WP participation, so I feel myself scandalized by your accusation. If I ever have been uncivil against Azeri users I have apologized . The same I expect from you otherwise I will file a complaint against by admins. --Vacio (talk) 11:28, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

That seems fair Vacio, I apologize for offending you. Baku87 (talk) 11:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Zand erover. But please remove that accusation from the ADR talkpage. --Vacio (talk) 11:42, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

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ra Shusha and Stepanakert

You have to justify your accusation that the anon's edits are vandalism; personally, at least with Stepanakert, they look at least valid. --Golbez (talk) 22:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

None of his edits were discussed and included dramatic changes as a new kind of misleading map replaced the agreed map. I also would like to bring to your attention the fact this IP-person has been leading a Anti-Azerbaijan campaign which you can see here, again none of his edits are discussed, so for this reason I think it vandalism, wouldnt you agree? I also would like to not his abusive language which he used here. Baku87 (talk) 23:04, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I will leave him a note on the abusive language and reverting; however, I also caution you that blind reverts without giving reasons, except for obvious vandalism (which this was not), may be in violation of the arbitration. And per the rules there, I am notifying you of this before imposing any further limitations. Please read it. --Golbez (talk) 01:01, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Baku87 has also to justify his massive unexplained reverts as here:

• Arakel Babakhanian
• Yeghishe Ishkkanian
• Mikayel Varandian
• Hambardzum Arakelian
• Alexander Bekzadyan
• Arsen Terteryan
• Gabriel Kafian
• Alexander Atabekian
• Armen Takhtajan
• Sahak Ter-Gabrielyan

I am sure you were aware of the discussion in Talk:Arakel Babakhanian to know that there was no consensus for moving Shushi from WP articles, yet you and user:Baki66 continue to get what you wanted by means of edit-warring. --Vacio (talk) 05:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I was not aware of it as this is a very remote article to have this discussion on the consensus, this talk should be held in a more clear article perhaps the article Shusha itself? Baku87 (talk) 10:53, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

You also probably noticed that all these article revert have the same issue, whether to call it Shusha or Shushi (basically 1 letter), and since the redirect to the main article itself is called Shusha and during the given periods it was also called Shusha by various sources, so doesnt it seem logical to just use this name? Other issues with these articles are the attempts to include Nagorno-Karabakh into the articles, while it did not excist in the given periods. I hope you have engaged 216.165.12.158 and asked him to stop reverting everything because his list has still continued? I will take your advise and be more cautious and clarifying before any revert to prevent confusion. Baku87 (talk) 10:54, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I hope you will, but your reverts were really disruptive and you should know that every time massive changes are made without consensus, we will have similar massive edit wars. If I were you I'd response to the arbcom case agaist you instead of continued edit warring as you do here. That isn't wise of you, Baku87. But now a question unrelated with thIS. Wil jij dit bericht in het Nederlands antwoorden? Jij wordt ervan verdacht een sockpuppet van Baki66 te zijn. Als jij mij tenminste in het Nederlands antwoordt, dan weet ik dat dat niet juist is want Baki 66 is geen Nederlandstalige. --Vacio (talk) 12:07, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Ik ben geen puppet, check de IPs ik woon in NL, daarnaast is mijn account is ouder dan Baki66. Waar kan ik de arbcom over dit vinden?

If there is anyone who should be suspected of being a suckpuppet it would be 216.165.12.158 Baku87 (talk) 14:33, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer. The arbcom case against you is here. Sad that you haven't seen it yet because you can be restricted or even blocked for your last reverts. Groet --Vacio (talk) 15:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

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Nowruz

first of all happy Nowruz to you. I appreciate your efforts in editing Nowruz related articles.

There is also another article called Samanu maybe you can put information with regard to Samani in the republic of Azerbaijan there. In order to have similar spellings please write samani in Azeri latin script and perso-Arabic script as the native names in Azeri but use Samani(Samanu) instead of Semeni. It is the reverse e thing which sounds like a in English. I think you have a done a great job about nowruz related and also Zoroastrian related articles in the republic of Azerbaijan.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 11:14, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

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wat er aan de hand is

Je weet dat ik niks tegen je heb, maar andere mensen uit Republiek Azerbaijan zijn aan het provoceren. Ze zijn echt toe aan een wiki oorlog met Iraniers. gezien het feit dat we dezelfde geschiedenis, cultuur, religie en taal hebben is dit echt bizar. Aan andere kant die zijn gek op Turken en Turkije terwijl Turken hebben in de loop van geschiedenis op de Azeri mensen genocide gepleegd. Ik heb zelfs boeken uit Baku die dat zeggen. Het is interessant om te weten dat soms Armeniers Azeri Moslems geholpen hebben tegen Turken, terwijl die Lezgis, Avaren en die mensen uit het noorden Azerische mensen hebben gedood. Waarom schrijven die editoriale team van republiek Azerbaijan Latijnse namen op de Iraanse steden en personen, maar waarom willen ze dat we niet hetzelfde doen? Ruzie maken en ruzie zoeken tegen Iraniers is zeker niet goed nu republiek Azerbaijan al zijn handen vol heeft met Karabakh.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 16:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Wat ik zei was dat editors uit Republiek Azerbaijan zijn bezig met een wikioorlog met Iraniers, dat nergens toe leidt. Ze haten Iraniers die eigenlijk hun eigen mensen zijn maar houden van Turken die genocide op hun hebben gepleegd. Over Armeens-republiek Azeri problemen mot ik zeggen: Iraniers waren aan het begin actief en hebben vaak de kant van Azeris gekozen. Dat heeft echter niet geholpen en rep. Azeris hebben aanval op Iran geopened en het Iraanse grondgebied opgeist (tijden Elchibey). Ook hebben ze de historische vijand van Azeris (=Turkije) tpoegelaten tot hun land. Ze hebben ook Iran uitgesloten van de oliewininning. Dat heeft de relatie met Iran enorm verslechterd. Aan het begin van de Karabakh oorlog was Iran heel sterk aan de kant van repoubliek Azerbaijan. Armeniers hebben een Iraanse vliegtuig laten neerschieten. Iran heeft Armenie gewaarschuwd om Nakhichevan niet binnen te vallen en dit was Iran die hen tegenhield. Maar wat was de resultaat? alleen maar haat tegen Iran en liefde voor Turkije. Maar dat aan de kant: in wikipedia enkele keren hebben Armeniers Iraniers geprovoceerd en zijn gewaarschuwd. Ze hebben hun fout gecorrigeerd. Maar elke keer als editors uit republiek Azerbaijan iets doen lijdt het to escalatie. Armeniers laten Iraniers met rust en als een gentleman's agreement is het zo dat iedereen zich buiten houdt van Armeens- rep. Azeri problemen als het tot escalatie lijdt, maar ingrijpen als het nodig is. Welke artikelen denk je dat ik een kijkje op moet nemen?--Babakexorramdin (talk) 12:06, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

beste Baku87 Ik denk dat je niet de juiste informatie hebt. Azeris in Iran worden niet als minderheden beschouwd. Ze worden als het gewone volk beschouwd. Armeniers daarentegen worden als minderheid beschouwd en hebben minder rechten. daartegenover staat dat ze hun religie wel mogen leren op scholen. In faite de Pan Turkomongolen en separatisten willen dat Azeris in Iran de status van minderheid krijgen dan kunnen ze veel lawaai maken en dezelfde dingen krijgen die Armeniers hebben. Het overgrote deel van Iraanse Azeris echter willen natuurlijk niet als minderheid worden. Nu de belangrijkste politieke en economische posities in Iran zijn in de hand van Azeris. Azeri taal is niet verboden. Er zijn kranten en tijdschriften, boeken, TVs en Radio's in Azeri taal. In Iraans Azerbaijan (zuid Azerbaijan is een artificiele naam!) spreekt iedereen op straat Azeri, ook in tehran is dat in veel gevallen zo. Zelfs in Mashad kun je vaak Azeri horen. Wat die pan Turkomongolen willen is dat ze hun boeken op scholen onderwijzen, dat ze zeggen dat hun vader de Grijze wolf is en dat Chingiz Khan en Ataturk broers waren en dat ze de Fars, Kurd, Talysh etc... moeten gaan doden en het land in oorlog storten. Natuurlijk geen gezond verstand laat het toe. Voor de rest is er niks aan de hand. Er is iets wat jammer is en dat is dat de Azeri literatuur krijgt weinig aandacht op school: dat is helaas zo en er is veel kritiek in Iran. Paniranisten zeggen dat alle talen van Iran moeten worden onderwezen. Minsiterie van onderwijs zegt dat ze niet voldoende materiaal hebben om extra onderwijs te kunnen zorgen voor zoveel miljoenen kinderen. Het is nu overgelaten aan de particuliere initiatef,. Helaas is er weinig enthusiasme van de Azeri ouders om hun kinderen extra les te laten volgen in Azeri literatuur. Wie het wil kan het volgen. maar nogmaals het is niet zo dat separatisten de boeken mogen schrijven. Ik denk en ik hoop dat er in de nabije toekomst de minsiterie gewoon met boeken komt. Ik wil dat alle Iraanse kinderen meerdere talen weten.

Perzisch is historisch gezien de lingua franca van de Iraanse wereld,. dat is ook zo geweest in je land tot voor kort. BV. Mohammad Amin rasulzadeh publiceerde in het perzisch. eerst de Tsaren en daarna Boelsjewieken hebben ervoor gezorgd dat er niet meer Perzisch wordt geschreven. Ook hebben ze jullie alfabeet veranderd zodat jullie je banden met iran verliezen. Perzisch is niet alleen de taal van de etnische Fars maar is de lingua Franca van alle Iraniers. Veel schrijvers en dichters die het perzisch hebben geschreven waren Azeri, Koerd, Mazandarani etc... Het is goed dat de mensen vandezelfde cultuur en civilisatie met elkaar kunnen communiceren in een litteraraire taal die allemaal aan bijdrage hebben geleverd. Ook je bent onder de invloed van anti-Iranisme rond het karabakh conflict. Iran stond heel sterk aan de kant van Azerbaijan voordat Elchibey kwam. Die was eerst Elchibey zelf die Iran boos maakte. Onder Mutalibov Iran had toegzegd om Azerbaijan van goederen te voorzien. Elchibey heeft alle Iraanse hulp geweigerd, alle handel met Iran stop gezet en zelfs de minister van buitenlandse zaken van Iran niet toegelaten.Het was niet zo dat Iran eesrt Armenie hielp en daarna Elchibey boos werd. Iran heeft Armenie nooit geholpen. Die was Iran die het voorkwam dat Armenie Nakhchivan binnenviel. Die was ook Iran die zijn tanks stuurde om Armeniers tegen te houden en zodat vluchtelingen met rust worden gelaten. Iran had dan vluchtelingen in het Iraanse grondgebied opgenomen. Als reactie stuurde Turkije zijn troepen aan de Grens met Iran en bedreigde Iran. Als het ware wouden ze zeggen dat ze de baas zijn in julie land. Toen heydar Aliyev aan de macht kwam probeerden ze hm te vermoorden en Elchibey aan de mach te brengen. Dat heeft tansu Chiller toegegeven. Uberhaupt Iran was conomisch te zwak om Armenie te kunnen helpen in de begindagen van Karabakh. In die tijd was Iran pas vrij van de oorlog met Saddam., Het land was verwoest en Industrie stelde weinig voor. Dat was een andere Iran dan nu. Wat Armenen hebben gedaan was echter om Iran niet boos te maken. Ze hebben altijd zich gedragen na waarschuweingen. Iran wou een stabiel Kaukasus. Dus een stabiel Azerbaijan was goed voor Iran. Voor Iran was het beter geweest dat het karabakh conflict vermeden werd en dat Iran, Azerbaijan en Armenie met elkaar in een vrije handelszone handel bedreven. Door de ruzie die Turkije met Armenen had wou Turkije dat het Karabakh conflict door ging. Dat was ook bekend dat panturkse elementen in Azerbaijan bv. (je weet wel) mensen buiten Karabakh bang hebben gemaakt om hun steden te verlaten. in feite hadden ze die steden aan Armeniers verkocht. Wist je dat er nooit is gevochten voor die steden buiten Karabakh die bezet zijn door Armeniers? Dat was gewoon de smerige politiek van Turkije. Armenie heeft geewn vrienden en Iran was geisoleerd dus ze hadden handel, maar de schijn bedriegt. dat was niet zo dat Iran voor Armenie koos. Dat was echter Turkije en Amerika en weet wie die de problemen tussen Iran en Armenie hebben veroorzaakt. Later Toen elchibey weg was hoopte Iran dat Azerbaijan anders om ging met Iran maar Azerbaijan heeft Iran uitgesloten van oliwinning. Sterker nog pan turkisten werden geholpen in Baku, en die riepen dat er een burgeroorlog in Iran zou moeten ontsaan zoals in joegoslavie. Ze hebben ook duidleijk landkaarten gedrukt waarin de Iraanse steden werden opgenomen. Wat bapaalde politici in Azerbaijan deden maakte Iran boos. We zijn hetzelfde volk maar ze hebben Iran verraden en de historische vijand - Turkije geholpen. Dat word duideijk in Iran opgevat als verraad. Het latijse alfabeet dan was door Elchibij opgelegd, omdat het op Turks leek. Elchibey wou om jullie taal te verbieden en die te vervangen met Istanbuli Turks, hij kon niet zo ver gaan, maar heeft een alfabeet gemaakt die op die van de Turken leek. Het latijnse alfabeet tijdens Stalin was anders! Iran erkent dat alfabeet niet en Azeri in Iran wordt nog steeds op het originele manier geschreven. De mensen die de Turksachtige latijnse alfabeet op de Iraanse steden zetten, weigeren om het Iraans-Azeri alfabeet op hun steden ztten. hiermee willen zeggen dat ze zeggenschap hebben op Iraans grondgeboied.. Die zijn bezig met een gevaarlijk spelletje. Nu 20% van Azerbaijan is bezet door kleinere Armenen, het is niet logisch dat er ruzie wordt gezorgd met een land dat tenminste 10 keer zo groter is dan Azerbaijan. Het is ook bizar want we hebben historische, religieuze, culturele, en taalovereenkomsten. Nu worden Armenie en Turkije weer vrienden met elkaar.. Juist nu moeten Azerbaijan en Iran weer vrienden worden. Bovendien Iran werkt niet tegen Georgie. Toen Rusland stopte met gasleverantie aan Georgie heeft Iran gas gegeven aan Georgie.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 09:02, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Baku87, Ik heb geen oplossing voor oorlog over de namen. Wat editors uit rep. Azerbaijan doen in Russian wiki is tegen de "naming conventions". En even dit: Armeniers in Iran wonen in Azeri steden maar ook in fars steden zoals Esfahan. Ze heben in totaal veel minder scholen dan 40 scholen. Ooit waren ze veel maar ze zijn meestal uit Iran weggemigreerd. Ze mogen hun scholen hebben omdat ze per grondwet een minderheid zijn en recht hebben op eigen godsdienst. Armenen in Iran zijn nooit oorlog gehad met moslims, Fars of Azeri. Wie zegt dat Azeris geen scholen hebben? Er zijn miljoenen scholen in Iraans Azerbaijan. Ik denk dat de minister van onderwijs in Iran zelf een Azeri is. Ik heb niks tegen Turken, omdat UIraniers en Turken respectvol met elkaar omgaan. Maar denk ik dat mensen uit republiek Azerbaijan zouden erg wel boos op Turkije moeten zijn als ze de waarheid wisten over wat Turken met Azeri mensen in het algemeen en met je land hebben gedaan. Ok welke Armeense Artikels wou je dat ik naar kijk?--Babakexorramdin (talk) 16:12, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Ik zal naar die artikelen kijken. Ik herinner me dat ik eens had voorgesteld om dat artikel Azeris en andere Turkic peoples in Armenia te veranderen naar Moslem people in Armenia. Armenen wouden het als Tukic people in Armenia, omdat ze meenden dat die turkstalige mensen geen Azeris wouden. Azeri en andere Turkic was een concensus. Ik had dit voorgesteld omdat de Iraanse bronnen het over Moslems hebben en geen verschil maken tussen Azeri, Kurd of Fars. Engelse bronnen hadden over "Persian Subjects". Natuurlijk Armeniers waren er tegen mijn voorstel. Maar wat mij verbaaste bwas de meeste editors uit republiek Azerbaijan waren ook ertegen. Dat is wat ik zeg. De blinde haat tegenover Iran is niet in hun voordeel. Hadden ze ingegaan op mijn voorstel dan kon duidelijk worden weergegeven dat nadat Iran Armenie had verloeren percentages van Moslems was drastisch verminderd en die van Armeniers gestegen. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 13:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Kijk naar wat ik in die talk page heb gezegd. Ik zei dat die in ieder geval Iraanse mensen waren die Sjiietisch waren en een Turkic taal spraken zoals we vandaag Azeri noemen. Armeniers zeggen nee, de bronnen moeten zeggen dat ze Azeri waren. Misplaced Pages werkt zo. Niet al die mensen waren Azeris, er waren veel Koerden en ook Fars mensen bij. Die zijn ook gevlucht/ gedeporteerd. Ik heb een perzisch boek dat zegt Moslems hebben weerstand geboden tegen de Russische bezetting van Iravan. --Babakexorramdin (talk) 16:47, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Arash

As I know Arash is born in Mazandaran his mother is from Borazjan and Shiraz in Southern Iran (Fars), and his father is From Esfahan. He might have a grandfather that is Azerbaijani. Most Iranians have multiple ethnic background. His ethnicity is not important and has nothing to do why he helped the Azerbaijan Republic. I know how it comes but that is irrelevant. That was smart of republic of Azerbaijan, because there are large Iranian communities in Europe and they are going to vote for them by televoting. Turks won't vote for them because they have their own competitor. So it is important that people from the republic of Azerbaijan know this. I will come ther and a take a look--Babakexorramdin (talk) 15:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I have seen that website. I think some Russian organizators are consciously creating tensions. Yesterday they showed pictures from Iranwhen they were introducing the republic of Azerbaijan. This will lead to the Iranian protest. Someone is here instigtating tension and irredntism. Arash might have Azerbaijani roots, but Iranian Azeri. That is not the reason why he is taking part on the contest. Also it seems to be wrong that he is born in Tehran. He is born in Mazandaran. The website is irreliable because it contradicts facts and also regarding the controversy the Russian organizators created yesterday. I will come soon with reliable information about Arash.--Babakexorramdin (talk) 15:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Discuss!

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Regarding the mass stubbing of articles

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DYK for Hagop Hagopian

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WP:AE

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