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:I only was addressing the lede, I hadn't ever heard of this person, the firing or really anyone but Obama - I didn't even known what Americorps was even though they're huge so I came to it all with ''very'' fresh eyes. I'm a stickler that the lede be a stand alone stub so if someone only reads the lead they get the overview of what the article is about. In that context we ''do'' explain who Walpin, Americorps etc are to provide enough context. For instance it's quite relevant that Americorps has a budget of 250-300 million, in that context disputes over 100,000 will often occur, especially with government projects. Also that Americorps is massive. Ledes aren't always perfect but that ones not too bad. The other issue was to throw away the Wikinews link - that article was quite bias and based on other sources anyway. There are tons of sources for this so I hope the article survives. ] 17:02, 20 June 2009 (UTC) | :I only was addressing the lede, I hadn't ever heard of this person, the firing or really anyone but Obama - I didn't even known what Americorps was even though they're huge so I came to it all with ''very'' fresh eyes. I'm a stickler that the lede be a stand alone stub so if someone only reads the lead they get the overview of what the article is about. In that context we ''do'' explain who Walpin, Americorps etc are to provide enough context. For instance it's quite relevant that Americorps has a budget of 250-300 million, in that context disputes over 100,000 will often occur, especially with government projects. Also that Americorps is massive. Ledes aren't always perfect but that ones not too bad. The other issue was to throw away the Wikinews link - that article was quite bias and based on other sources anyway. There are tons of sources for this so I hope the article survives. ] 17:02, 20 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
::OK. Thank you for understanding. I won't deliberately remove anything that you add or put back in. ] (]) 17:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC) | ::OK. Thank you for understanding. I won't deliberately remove anything that you add or put back in. ] (]) 17:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Your comments directed at me on ]'s talk page are extremely unhelpful. ] is one of a string of SPAs that have been materializing over the last three months in disputes over editing articles over minor-league Los Angeles celebrities. Several of them are obvious sockpuppets, and all maintain the same approach -- complete disregard for the requirements of ] and ], an enthusiasm for groundless personal attacks on editors they disagree with, and an insistence on maintaining the articles as shrines to their friends and colleagues. There have been repeated threads on administrative noticeboards on these disputes, with no support found there for the SPAs. ] materialized a few days ago after a long absence, and has done essentially nothing except reinserting text that fails ] and directing personal attacks at other editors (mostly me). I suggest you review the full dispute, and I commend to you ]'s comment about the disruptive activities. I also note that, under ], it is not acceptable to uncritically cite unsourced quotations found on an artist's website praising the artist in glowing terms. That fails ] by a wide margin, which requires that"Articles should rely on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." It is particularly unacceptable to do what Swancookie does repeatedly: writing quotation links which disguise the actual source. I would also note that I have myself googled several of the quotations involved, and discovered no sources for them independent of Wikimedia, Wikimedia mirrors, the band's own site, and fansites republishing text from the band's site. That is a strong signal to me that the quotations cannot be reliably sourced. It is also a clear sign that, under ], the quotations cannot be used in Misplaced Pages articles, since BLP strictly prohibits the use of such dubiously sourced material, both promotional and derogatory (and Swancookie is inserting both types.) ] (]) 20:39, 20 June 2009 (UTC) |
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Formatting refs
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Note - access date format 2008-06-16
Living Memory LGBT History Timeline from Trans perspective
LGBT Random Picture
Starting draft page
User:Benjiboi/LGBT image quest for current pile.
LGBT Random Picture for user pages
Use {{Portal:LGBT/Pics}} or alternatively <center>{{Portal:LGBT/Pics}}</center> if you want it centered on userspace.Benjiboi
Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence
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operation Spanner linkrefs date of benefit event Benjiboi KellanKellan event in 2007Benjiboi Sisters controversy section ideas...because Catholicism and American politics has a vast influence on American culture or history of (discrimination, ?,?) or even the more unique and universal appearance of dress the Sisters ... Need to find refs of criticism from within LGBT community. Benjiboi verbiageJames Martin, S.J. the U.S. entertainment industry is of "two minds" about the Catholic Church. He argues that, On the one hand, film and television producers seem to find Catholicism irresistible. There are a number of reasons for this. First, more than any other Christian denomination, the Catholic Church is supremely visual, and therefore attractive to producers and directors concerned with the visual image. Vestments, monstrances, statues, crucifixes - to say nothing of the symbols of the sacraments - are all things that more "word oriented" Christian denominations have foregone. The Catholic Church, therefore, lends itself perfectly to the visual media of film and television. You can be sure that any movie about the Second Coming or Satan or demonic possession or, for that matter, any sort of irruption of the transcendent into everyday life, will choose the Catholic Church as its venue.Benjiboi |
"Chicken and Bulls" Extortion Scam
See this. Seems worthy of an article but loads of research, possibly userfy and build. Benjiboi
User:Benjiboi/Dykes On Bikes
Compare to current and clean-off what is used already. Benjiboi
Bear (gay slang)
Maybe you can do something with this. I looked at it and tried to figure out how to incorporate it but it was too confusing for me. Of note is that the line is manufactured by American Apparel. ALLSTARecho
- Gold mine! I'm digging through a bio right now but we'll deal with that soonly. Benjiboi
Chris Crocker (Internet celebrity) - Gays and YouTube
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Chris Crocker (Internet celebrity) new articleNew Crocker |
James Kilfedder
Closeted homophobe or severely misunderstood?
See also: Peter Tatchell § OutRage.21- this one sums his homosexuality as open secret
- this editorial in ScotsGay - "Nevertheless, Outrage has been far too kind to those gay clerics and MPs like Kilfedder who have used their power to oppress us." (ties in age of consent campaign)
police raid
I though this existed already. build one. Banjiboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Possible ref for transgender history in the Polk
The original queer district: A brief history of the Polk's queer cred by J. PLASTER; August 29, 2007 Bay Guardian]. Banjeboi
Brandon Pereyda
- Moved to todo
twink
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PU from here. and now from here. Also:
sourcesA twink's guide to dressing a daddy a Circuit (film) connection popular London twink-haven G.A.Y. twink porn |
Fantastic Easter Special
About 12-15 refs needed to address OR concerns. Banjeboi
Robert Mapplethorpe
Add infobox, image and start cleaning up. Banjeboi
- moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Fudgie Frottage
add infobox. Banjeboi
- moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
for ball culture and Willi Ninja
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Deep in Vogue, a song released by Malcolm McLaren one year before the documentary film by Jennie Livingston Paris Is Burning. Madonna's "Vogue" came one year later, bringing this subculture to the mainstream audience, but it was far from the real thing.
Benny Ninjacreate article, part of the House - see Willi Ninja. -- Banjeboi |
Start Adelante
- moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Siegfried & Roy clean-up
content dropped, I think, from this large edit, re-add infoboxes and other material as appropriate. Banjeboi
- Moved to todo
Allen Schindler
story has been in film Banjeboi
- moved to todo
Design Industries Foundation Fighting AIDS
build stub. and hatnote for diffa. Banjeboi
- moved to todo
transgendered --> trangender_trangender">
All WP (portals, categories, etc. ) done except 100-250 links in articles. Start here. Banjeboi
- update link Banjeboi
Terminology of homosexuality
more items to be reffed. Banjeboi
- moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Trikone
add infobox. Banjeboi
- Moved to todo
R Family Vacations
add logo. Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Lesbian Avengers
add infobox. Banjeboi
GA quest - look at rewrites, barnstars and DYKs for possible GA candidates
semi-protected articles have to wait until protection and vandalism ebbs. -- Banjeboi
Andrew Furco
Research and write. -- Banjeboi
Renée Richards
Add infobox. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Duly noted
This could possibly be helpful toward explaining on-wiki trans and homo -phobias. -- Banjeboi
User:Tony1/Know your Manual of Style
worth a read. -- Banjeboi
Judicial system of Iran
review edits on Judicial system of Iran. -- Banjeboi
Jerome Caja
create. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Non-heterosexual
Nom for GA. -- Banjeboi
Fruit (slang)
Nom for GA. -- Banjeboi
The Denver Principles
recreate stealth and DYK. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
ARS - add to rescued list?
Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Precambrian rabbit. -- Banjeboi
another source that you might not think of
Christian Science monitor - seems conservative but in-depth. -- Banjeboi
National Immigration Law Center
Create DYK stubby. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Bear template?
Underground
Stubbyfy, ref and relaunch. User:Benjiboi/Underground culture. -- Banjeboi
"Prop 8 - The Musical"
Revive and launch. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Twirlin'
Confirm article title is most accurate (spelling, usage), clean-up lede, add refs. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Bored? Category:LGBT studies articles needing expert attention
Category:LGBT studies articles needing expert attention is always entertaining. -- Banjeboi
LGBT DYK for portal
Portal:LGBT/Did you know; convert past DYKs to the randomizer archive. -- Banjeboi
sorting out shemale, 2nd round
Butterfly metaphor ,, , , , -- Banjeboi
Good source
For politicos on a variety of issues Ontheissues.org. -- Banjeboi
Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Wikify
Create project banner? -- Banjeboi
Anderson Cooper
Rewrite his sexuality section, again,
- speculation prevalent, bundle the notable blogs
- called gay ..., current note is fine
- response to that speculation, - our summary of the explanation is better that the quote, attribute the interview
- criticism to that response - bundle Naff's 3? relevant articles; bundle Olberman's with where that was repeated
- follow up why Cooper avoids addressing the speculation. - Elle has a good section on this -- Banjeboi
for ARS
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Rescue template TBDpossible NPOV one? -- Banjeboi for ARS tagging bot
Help:Misplaced Pages: The Missing ManualFor Ars. -- Banjeboi {{Findsources3}}{{Findsources3}} |
Paris Hilton's new album
Draft is at User:Benjiboi/Platinum Blonde (Paris Hilton album) for when more sources appear. -- Banjeboi
{{LGBT rights in United States}}
50 state project, standardize intro with refs, state map and LGBT rights template. See also section and footer templates. Then do talkpages with project tag and proposed section outline. -- Banjeboi
See also
- Defense of Marriage Act
- Domestic partnerships in the United States
- Federal Marriage Amendment
- Freedom to Marry Coalition
- History of civil marriage in the U.S.
- List of benefits of marriage in the United States
- Marriage Protection Act
- Same-sex marriage in the United States
- Same-sex marriage legislation in the United States
- Same-sex marriage in the United States by state
- Same-sex marriage in the United States public opinion
- Same-sex marriage status in the United States by state
LGBT cat banner and project subpage
"LGBT category" mainspace banner of sorts so that those who actually look at any of the LGBT cat pages can follow a link to page that gives a simplified rationale and direction for adding people to cats. "Per _____ policy 'cats should be clearly supported by content' and per ____ policy 'content about sexual minorities must be reliably sourced'. Below are some guidelines to help determine which if any categories are appropriate and how they are organized." Create and install. -- Banjeboi
San Francisco Sex Information
Restore deleted content, refs abound. -- Banjeboi
- moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
fix my mess
add "subst" to these (less than 100). -- Banjeboi
- 50 left. -- Banjeboi
User:Giano/A fool's guide to writing a featured article
User:Giano/A fool's guide to writing a featured article -- Banjeboi
BFrank
when the noise ebbs. -- Banjeboi
bright, articulate and productive, effective etc.
Sex reassignment surgery
Rewrite, source and restore 31 March and 1 April removals. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
talk:Intersexuality
Address EL issue. -- Banjeboi
Category:Cant languages
Template? -- Banjeboi
slut night
research, refix, rewrite. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
I notes possible leads
User:Benjiboi/Intersex. -- Banjeboi
Fruit (slang) talkpage
find "strange fruit" song referring to LGBT people refs. -- Banjeboi
Start Rescue 101 and then link to it on new ARS template
Per this start a new "so you tagged an article" template compacted with show/hide sections:
- Is this worth keeping, appropriate, duplicated; merge might make more sense, etc
- Is this notable, verifiable
- Are these fix it issues
- If you do think it's worth keeping identify appropriate wikiprojects that may be able to find sourcing, clarity
etc. -- Banjeboi
Susan Stryker
ZOMG, she needs an article, write for DYK. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
List_of_lesbian_periodicals_in_the_United_States#Year Unknown
basic ref formatting, a few sections a day ... -- Banjeboi
- Done through 1991. -- Banjeboi
- Year Unknown section and clean-up refs. -- Banjeboi
WP:ARS
- move cat to items
- update template(s)
- update bot
- create rescue 101 page with section just on templates
- modify ((tl|Rescue)) with template-specific parameters so displays template info rather than article info
- update project page to reflect changes, etc. -- Banjeboi
ARS and DrV notes
some possible verbiage also note teh nuance of tagging an article that had the rescue tag vs. one that didn't. -- Banjeboi
Jeff Whittington
Clean refs. -- Banjeboi
Gene Robinson
More clean-up in aisle three. -- Banjeboi
Sam Champion
add infobox. -- Banjeboi
- MOved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Human rights in the United States#Sexual orientation
add sources asap. -- Banjeboi
Harmful to Minors
add book infobox. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages talk:ARS/Editnotice
create directing to FAQ and instructions. -- Banjeboi
Twin Peaks (bar)
First LGBT bar with windows. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Council on Religion and the Homosexual
Like a Stonewall for San Francisco but more passive-agressive and with cocktails and frocks. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Jo(h)n Sim(s) disambig page
Merge various. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Josie's Juice Joint
LGBT comedy birthplace, they all performed there apparently. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Juanita More
Big time drag queen/performance artist in SF who only wears haute couture and does major fundraising events; also her posse of photogenic More boys. -- Banjeboi
- Moved to todo. -- Banjeboi 04:09, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
User:SatyrTN/Cat Search 4 New Pages
Bored? -- Banjeboi
For homo animal articles
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LGBT Question
I'd like to start a new article about a LGBT artist. The only problem is a lot of the press I have on them is in actual magazines. How does one prove notability if a lot of the person's press (40%?) is in actual gay publications/magazines not online press. What would you suggest I do? Thanks. Swancookie (talk) 21:41, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
- Hi, you're in luck, sources do not have to be available online and many, most?, aren't. Use the template at Template:Citation#Citing journals, newspapers, magazines, or other periodicals and fill in every thing you have. Be sure to put the entire cite within ref tags like <ref> (full citation here) </ref>. Good luck! -- Banjeboi 03:40, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Gerald Walpin firing
Hi. In trying to fix the major damage that was done to Gerald Walpin firing by some editors (not by you), it's possible that I may have unintentionally undone some of your good edits. However, I see that most of your edits were about Americorps and Walpin, each of which already have their own separate articles anyway, so it doesn't have to be in this article anyway. If I have not corrected the other things, I apologize - it was not intentional on my part. Grundle2600 (talk) 16:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- I only was addressing the lede, I hadn't ever heard of this person, the firing or really anyone but Obama - I didn't even known what Americorps was even though they're huge so I came to it all with very fresh eyes. I'm a stickler that the lede be a stand alone stub so if someone only reads the lead they get the overview of what the article is about. In that context we do explain who Walpin, Americorps etc are to provide enough context. For instance it's quite relevant that Americorps has a budget of 250-300 million, in that context disputes over 100,000 will often occur, especially with government projects. Also that Americorps is massive. Ledes aren't always perfect but that ones not too bad. The other issue was to throw away the Wikinews link - that article was quite bias and based on other sources anyway. There are tons of sources for this so I hope the article survives. -- Banjeboi 17:02, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- OK. Thank you for understanding. I won't deliberately remove anything that you add or put back in. Grundle2600 (talk) 17:22, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Swancookie
Your comments directed at me on User:Swancookie's talk page are extremely unhelpful. User:Swancookie is one of a string of SPAs that have been materializing over the last three months in disputes over editing articles over minor-league Los Angeles celebrities. Several of them are obvious sockpuppets, and all maintain the same approach -- complete disregard for the requirements of WP:RS and WP:NPOV, an enthusiasm for groundless personal attacks on editors they disagree with, and an insistence on maintaining the articles as shrines to their friends and colleagues. There have been repeated threads on administrative noticeboards on these disputes, with no support found there for the SPAs. User:Swancookie materialized a few days ago after a long absence, and has done essentially nothing except reinserting text that fails WP:RS and directing personal attacks at other editors (mostly me). I suggest you review the full dispute, and I commend to you User:Bali_ultimate's comment about the disruptive activities. I also note that, under WP:RS, it is not acceptable to uncritically cite unsourced quotations found on an artist's website praising the artist in glowing terms. That fails WP:RS by a wide margin, which requires that"Articles should rely on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." It is particularly unacceptable to do what Swancookie does repeatedly: writing quotation links which disguise the actual source. I would also note that I have myself googled several of the quotations involved, and discovered no sources for them independent of Wikimedia, Wikimedia mirrors, the band's own site, and fansites republishing text from the band's site. That is a strong signal to me that the quotations cannot be reliably sourced. It is also a clear sign that, under WP:BLP, the quotations cannot be used in Misplaced Pages articles, since BLP strictly prohibits the use of such dubiously sourced material, both promotional and derogatory (and Swancookie is inserting both types.) Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 20:39, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- Vos, Sarah (10 June 2007, page 13). "Barker says O'Donnell could replace him". Associated Press. Retrieved 2008-06-16.
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