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CC-BY-SA in Statement of principles?

Seeing as WP's license has been changed to both Creative Commons and the GFDL, should the Statement of principles be updated accordingly? It currently only mentions the GFDL. --Cybercobra (talk) 06:50, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

No, no, no, no..... that would render my own contribution to that particular Principle moot Little grape (talk) 18:33, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

requesting an audience

Following up from User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archive 47#Block of Bishonen, question, whereupon you notified Bishonen of her block, there was a subsequent discussion on her talk (now archived) and she has now agreed at User talk:Bishonen#an audience with the king to discuss the matter with you openly at a subpage in her userspace. The intention is that it would be a one-on-one chat, in order to talk through the problems, which I think will be useful for you both. This is an opportunity to establish whether the Founder is a meatball:FirstServant, meatball:GodKing, or something else. John Vandenberg 01:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Is there a subpage for it?--Jimbo Wales (talk) 15:38, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Not as yet. John Vandenberg 22:17, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, keep me posted.  :)--Jimbo Wales (talk) 20:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The subpage (when it's created) should be fully protected (it's a one-on-one discussion, and users might be tempted to edit it). Griffinofwales (talk) 20:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

This is becoming dull - is the fact that two editors are planning to enter into dialogue such a great event? Can one or the other of you please start communicating with the other - Jimbo - I suggest you (being the gentleman) pop over to Bishonen's talk and say "Hi, I'm Jimbo, I belive we have a problem" Bishonen will then reply "indeed we do" and off you both go - communicating. The rest of us will keep our mouths shut and watch with interest. Giano (talk) 20:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't want to intrude. Other people are proposing this, and I'm just saying I'm up for it if it's something Bishonen wants to do. If she doesn't, then that's fine too.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 21:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

--Joopercoopers (talk) 21:41, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

FGS! Your actions have caused immense upset to one of the projects best editors - she has intimated she is prepeared to openly discuss with you the problem. Go to her page and discuss! Giano (talk) 21:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I have created User talk:Bishonen/block discussion with the statement from Bishonen dated June 7. It is protected to avoid disruption. John Vandenberg 21:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Email

Jimbo, please check your email. Durova 03:16, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Some new developments in the discussion over Paid Editing/Advocacy:

Dear Mr. Wales,

I ran across your interest in the issue of paid editing while I was contributing to the discussion myself on the RFC. I have a proposal that you might like (as it raises money for the foundation and perhaps for you as well while discourages paid editing) here: Misplaced Pages:Village_pump_(policy)#Paid_Editing_proposal:_Wikipedia_.22tax.22_on_paid_editors.3F. This proposal has generated some community discussion.

Also, I must inform you of this also: Misplaced Pages:Miscellany_for_deletion/Wikipedia:Paid_editing.

Thank you and have a good day! Erich Mendacio (talk) 16:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

To save Jimbo time: It has generated some community discussion which is universally along the lines of "This wouldn't work and even if it did it would do more harm than good." --Tango (talk) 17:09, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I think Jimbo can make up his own mind what the discussion says. Perhaps you might have said that, but your views do no represent anyone. Please let the free exchange of ideas continue. Erich Mendacio (talk) 17:20, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Everyone except you have said exactly the same thing. Forum shopping is frowned upon here, and that seems to be what you are doing. --Tango (talk) 18:10, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Not to mention violating a community ban. I'd suggest deleting this section, but won't do it myself because I'm not sure how Jimbo likes to deal with his own talk page. -Pete (talk) 18:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Hey Jimbo Wales!

I think wikipedia has got problems, and that is the reason I am leaving for good! I think consensus is a pile of you know what, which anyone can drum up consensus for a period of time, and shove it down everyones throat! I think your notability standards are crude at best, and need to be revised! I think your OWN criteria is stupid because you want people to feel a since of ownership of what they create or else anything will go! I think that everyone should be made ADMINS or SYOPS or none should and then let Bureaucrats deal with the ramifications because ADMINS think they are GOD on wikipedia! I think that wikipedia is a false doctrine because you all let ANSWERS.com or con use the content we create to make money! HOW SAD! I used to love Misplaced Pages now I despise it! I am user formally known as bluedogtn and others'! My e-mail is bluedogtenn@gmail.com if you would love to talk further. This is the last time I will visit this fraud of a site! 98.240.44.215 (talk) 22:39, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Neda

I realize that commons needs to guard against copyrights infringement, but is it really necessary to delete the pictures of a true hero just because people in Iran have other worries than to divulge their sources. I am referring to the photographs of the brave young woman who gave her life on the streets of Tehran yesterday. Jcwf (talk) 03:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Of course. We are an encuyclopeida with a policy of neutrality and its important to not have images that break US copyright laws. Such images don't help the project; the project and not the events in Iran being our concern. Thanks, SqueakBox talk 03:38, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

I can see why Iranians hate Americans at times: they only think of themselves. Jcwf (talk) 06:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

No, the Misplaced Pages servers just happen to be located there. If it's any consolation, many biographical articles are missing photos for the exact same reason. --Cybercobra (talk) 06:09, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

SqueakBox does not live in the USA, nor is he a citizen of the USA. The same is true for half of our editors. As for me and my fellow Americans (USA-ians just doesn't make it; sorry fellow America-continent citizens)); even with all its faults, the USA is one of the most giving nations in all of world history. Example: Sir Winston Churchill called the Marshall Plan "the most unsordid act in history." WAS 4.250 (talk) 19:17, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Hopelessly POV - the Marshall Plan was devised to stop dem Commies taking over Europe, and was thus politically motivated - not a random act of US kindness. n.b. 'The first substantial aid went to Greece and Turkey in January 1947, which were seen as being on the front lines of the battle against communist expansion'. Little grape (talk) 20:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

We already have File:Neda.jpg. I don't think a picture without source info and with clear point of view overtones (and WP:MEMORIAL as well) is needed to replace it. Fram (talk) 07:32, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

File:Neda.jpg is included as a non-free image; File:Neda the call of revolution iran flag.jpg appears to be a derivative work. I suspect this will be a pretty non-controversial deletion on Commons. Of course, deleting a photo that does not meet the standards of inclusion on Misplaced Pages or on Commons does not imply a lack of sympathy or respect for the photo's subject! The two issues are entirely unrelated. -Pete (talk) 19:24, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

USA copyright law allows fair use as does the English language Misplaced Pages. Please don't throw "copyright violation" around so easily. We prefer copy-left content as that is important to our over-all mission, but fair use quotes and images that are deemed appropriate are allowed. Winning arguments with bumper-sticker slogans misinforms the newbies. WAS 4.250 (talk) 18:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

¿You can do that?

How much power do you wield as a user on wikipedia as Chair Emeritus? What would happen if you somehow ended up incapable of being Chair Emeritus or are taken hostage by aliens in a last ditch effort to destroy human civilization? No, really? Seriously! Pisharov (talk) 21:57, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Were Jimbo to say that we should welcome our new alien overlords, I doubt anyone would listen to him. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

My honorary title of "Chair Emeritus" of the Wikimedia Foundation has no bearing of any kind on my traditional role here in the English Misplaced Pages community.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 22:08, 22 June 2009 (UTC)