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| Hi there! You're a member of ], so I'm just informing you about a proposal I've made about standardizing ''History of '' templates (like ]). The discussion is located at the ]—your comments and criticism are welcome. Thank you. ] (]) 05:10, 25 July 2008 (UTC) | Hi there! You're a member of ], so I'm just informing you about a proposal I've made about standardizing ''History of '' templates (like ]). The discussion is located at the ]—your comments and criticism are welcome. Thank you. ] (]) 05:10, 25 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| I saw that you are interested in former Yugoslavia issues, and that you are member of Croatia project. | |||
| I tried to post the following addition to Joip Broz Tito page, but was deleted by DIREKTOR.It is a shame that he is so biased that he does not want even to consider linking Tito to Bleiburg massacre- and he commanded Partisans then, and noone got punished for it later. Like he did not know. I think it is imperative to put Tito in context of Bleiburg massacre. | |||
| Can you help perhps by rephrasing and reposting, of course, if you agree with me? | |||
| The tekst was as follows: | |||
| After official end of war in Europe (VE) in May 1945, several tens of thousands of people, mostly Croatians, Serbs and Slovenes, Axis collaborators and their families, but also uninvolved people fleeing communists, tried to surrender to Allied British forces near the town of Bleiburg, Austria (see ])<ref>http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/genocide/yugoslav-hist1.htm</ref>. They were turned down, and forcibly returned to Yugoslav partisan forces. In the aftermath, many were killed without trial in the vicinity, or sent on death marches <ref>http://www.cosy.sbg.ac.at/~zzspri/1945Tragedy/index.html</ref>. The exact numbers of killed will most probably never be known, as figures range from 55.000 <ref>http://www.hic.hr/books/manipulations/p07.html</ref>, to 12.000 <ref>http://books.google.com/books?id=yH3Hz2AXonwC&pg=PA28&dq=12,000+bleiburg+15,000</ref>. | |||
| The extent of Tito's direct involvement in these events is not clear, but it is highly unlikely that he was unaware of them. In any case, he was clearly resposible for them under the ]. | |||
| ] (]) 11:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
| I guess he is. That is why I contacted Croatian Helsinki Commitee and Croatian Institute for History for help. Maybe they can help.] (]) 06:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Tito and Bleiburg == | |||
| I thought you might like to take a look at my addition to Tito's page, now fully referenced, and my addition to discussion page. I got all the data from professional high-profile historian. DIREKTOR is not such a great authority in this: he is an amateur,in medicine just like me, and if he deletes this addition, that will be a sure sign of his serious bias- I alerted Croatian Television, and they are watching this, great material for a TV show. DIREKTOR will not be brave enough to expose himself, I am sure. Nevertheless. Any suggestions who to alert on Wiki if he nevertheless deletes the addition?] (]) 08:29, 5 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Proposal for standard infobox for History of templates
Hi there! You're a member of WikiProject History, so I'm just informing you about a proposal I've made about standardizing History of templates (like Template:History of France). The discussion is located at the talk page for WikiProject History—your comments and criticism are welcome. Thank you. Mr. Absurd (talk) 05:10, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I saw that you are interested in former Yugoslavia issues, and that you are member of Croatia project. I tried to post the following addition to Joip Broz Tito page, but was deleted by DIREKTOR.It is a shame that he is so biased that he does not want even to consider linking Tito to Bleiburg massacre- and he commanded Partisans then, and noone got punished for it later. Like he did not know. I think it is imperative to put Tito in context of Bleiburg massacre. Can you help perhps by rephrasing and reposting, of course, if you agree with me?
The tekst was as follows:
After official end of war in Europe (VE) in May 1945, several tens of thousands of people, mostly Croatians, Serbs and Slovenes, Axis collaborators and their families, but also uninvolved people fleeing communists, tried to surrender to Allied British forces near the town of Bleiburg, Austria (see Bleiburg massacre). They were turned down, and forcibly returned to Yugoslav partisan forces. In the aftermath, many were killed without trial in the vicinity, or sent on death marches . The exact numbers of killed will most probably never be known, as figures range from 55.000 , to 12.000 .
The extent of Tito's direct involvement in these events is not clear, but it is highly unlikely that he was unaware of them. In any case, he was clearly resposible for them under the command responsibility. Petricek (talk) 11:36, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I guess he is. That is why I contacted Croatian Helsinki Commitee and Croatian Institute for History for help. Maybe they can help.Petricek (talk) 06:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Tito and Bleiburg
I thought you might like to take a look at my addition to Tito's page, now fully referenced, and my addition to discussion page. I got all the data from professional high-profile historian. DIREKTOR is not such a great authority in this: he is an amateur,in medicine just like me, and if he deletes this addition, that will be a sure sign of his serious bias- I alerted Croatian Television, and they are watching this, great material for a TV show. DIREKTOR will not be brave enough to expose himself, I am sure. Nevertheless. Any suggestions who to alert on Wiki if he nevertheless deletes the addition?Petricek (talk) 08:29, 5 July 2009 (UTC)