Misplaced Pages

Revision as of 19:25, 23 July 2009

The Lucy poems

Nominator(s): Kafka Liz, Ottava Rima, Ceoil

• Featured article candidates/The Lucy poems/archive1
• Featured article candidates/The Lucy poems/archive2

Nominating on behalf of Kafka Liz, who is off wiki for a while. We nomed this article a few months back but it went down in flames for a number of reasons. It has recieved a few detailed reviews since then and benefited from several combs by all involved. Thanks to Ricardiana and Fowler&fowler especially for so much insight, time and effort. Other than that, looking forward to engaging with other editor's suggestions and comments. Ceoil (talk) 16:39, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

• Quick question. After a quick read, I was just wondering why there was a "CAN BE" in all caps in "Three years she grew in sun and shower". bibliomaniac15 21:31, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

  Ottava Rima (talk) 21:46, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

  I, too, wondered what the caps were doing there. Simply linking to the edit that created them doesn't answer the question. Why are they there? Brianboulton (talk) 08:43, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

  Ask the individual who added them. Ottava Rima (talk) 14:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

  You have brought this article to FAC. It is your job to respond to questions, not mine to go hunting for answers. Please show some courtesy to reviewers who are prepared to spend time on your articles, and answer the question. Brianboulton (talk) 17:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

  Please show where I nominated this? Also please show how I can possibly speak for someone else? Furthermore, are you even Bibliomaniac? I don't recall him having another name, but I could be wrong. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

  Ottava, Ceoil listed you as a nominator - if you would like to be removed, let us know. Also, I believe both Brianboulton and Bibliomaniac15 were asking about the same issue, so let's just try to answer their question or fix the problem. Thanks. Awadewit (talk) 21:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

  I linked to where the error came from. There is nothing more that I can do. Obviously, if someone else besides me is randomly inserting in things that people have a problem with, I am not supposed to be the one attacked. Brian's comments were absolutely shameful and inappropriate. Awadewit, you should know better than to encourage it. Ottava Rima (talk) 22:08, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

  Ottava, there is nothing wrong with Brian's comments. You are listed as a nominator. Again, if you do not want this job, please request to be removed. Awadewit (talk) 22:54, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

  Awadewit, it was asked why it was there. No one can answer that besides Ceoil. You know that. I know that. We all know that. Unless you can somehow claim that I have magical ability to read minds, please stop now. Your actions are completely inappropriate. Ottava Rima (talk) 23:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

  All you had to do, in answer to Bibliomaniac's question, was to reply along the lines: "I don't know at the moment, but I will investigate" or some such comment. Replying by offering a link without any explanation, and then replying to me in the fashion that you did, might be considered as rather more "inappropriate" than my mild rebuke to you. But enough: there is an article here that needs some positive and creative feedback, and this argument is a distraction. The matter is over, as far as I am concerned (but I wish someone would explain those damn' caps!). Brianboulton (talk) 22:57, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

  How can I answer for someone else? Obviously, I can't. The only one that can answer is Ceoil. Now stop trolling before I report both you and Awadewit to ANI for disruption. Ottava Rima (talk) 23:09, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

  Removed all caps. Awadewit (talk) 00:38, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

  Apologies, that was a typo there. I was called away unexpectadly for a number of days, apologies for slow response. However it was so obviously an error, I can't understand where Ottava is coming from. Ceoil (talk) 19:06, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

  Your typoes tend to be certain localized spelling. You tend to be very good at grammar and formatting. So, it was best for you to say what it was. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:25, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

• Comments - sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:45, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Ealdgyth. Ceoil (talk) 19:06, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

• Dabs; please check the disambiguation links identified in the toolbox. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:27, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

• Do we know which River Dove it is, or is this one of the ambiguous place names in the poems? Awadewit (talk) 22:56, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

• If you don't know, better off not linking it. We shouldn't be intentionally linking to disambiguation pages. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:33, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

• It is not that we don't know, it is that it is a deliberate ambiguity in the poem. Note the sentence in the article: "Similarly, no insight can be gained from determining the exact geographical location of the "springs of Dove"; in his youth, Wordsworth had visited springs of that name in Derbyshire, Patterdale and Yorkshire." Knowing this, what do you think we should do? Awadewit (talk) 00:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

• The explanatory footnote is good, in my eyes. If you wish, you might unlink the amiguous link in prose, and link each specific River Dove mention to their respective article. See what I mean here. Of course, that raises its own issues. It's totally up to you. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:04, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

• I removed the disamb link and added in two of the river links to the footnote. The Westmorland Dove river does not have a page, or one that I could find. Ottava Rima (talk) 01:07, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

• That seems like a good compromise. Thanks for the quick thinking! Dabomb87 (talk) 01:17, 23 July 2009 (UTC)