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Response

Remove it if you want, but state your reason on the talk page. Thanks Christianjb 03:17, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

AiG page.

At the moment there is no point of view in the article. There are just the exact quotes and a historical mention of the persecution of gays in the Holocaust. It's then written that "defenders would reject that the quotes are a reference to these events". All fairly NPOV in my opinion. Do you honestly doubt that homosexuals would (in general) find the neologisms homonazi and sodomofascist insulting? Also do you honestly doubt that part of the reason they might find it insulting is due to the history of persecution?

You said that you're a Pole whose relatives where actually persecuted. Well, homosexuals were actually persecuted as well. I'm not going to get into a debate about the relative degree of persecution- people of both communities were killed (for respectively ethic and gender reasons) and that seems all that's relevent Christianjb 10:02, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

(sorry for the delay in responding BTW) Christianjb 10:02, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Update- I have sent the following email to glbtjews.org

Dear Sir/Madam,

I've got some tough questions regarding an encyclopedia article I am helping to edit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Answers_in_Genesis

This article in part covers a page by creationist organization "Answers in Genesis" in which the neologisms "homonazi" and "sodomofascist" are used. (http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/feedback/2005/0218.asp)

These are the questions (and I'm sorry for putting them so bluntly).

Would the neologisms "homonazi" and "sodomofascist" be offensive to most homosexuals? Would they be considered particularly offensive because of the documented persecution in the Holocaust?

Could it be considered offensive for an encyclopedia article to point out the connection between these neologisms and the possible connection with the Holocaust? For instance, would the Jewish community in general feel that it diminishes their suffering for each group to claim they were persecuted- when it was one particular group, the Jews that suffered the worst destruction?

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide. I personally consider the neologisms to be offensive, but as this has been the subject of some dispute with other editors I would like your input.

I want to be accountable for this email, so my full address is: (removed)

Christianjb 10:37, 7 December 2005 (UTC)