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== Wes gilbert ==

Thank you for your response. I reviewed the details, and agree with not unblocking him. The sandbox is not a free-for-all, and it is obvious he wasn't trying to improve his editing; he was merely being a vandal. Travis declined his unblock, and I have no intention of myself unblocking him at this time. Thanks for your explanation. --].].] 19:17, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

:You're welcome! :) —] ''•'']''•'' 19:19, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

==Enabling Huggle==
Hey, yep I was trying to enable huggle and I was totally confused so thanks a lot! Much appreciated. :)
] 15:20, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

:You're welcome! Great work today, by the way. :) —] ''•'']''•'' 16:52, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

== Hello! ==

How are you? {{Unsigned|Cdg123|16:42, 8 December 2008}}

:Thanks... I'm good. ;) You? —] ''•'']''•'' 16:50, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

== Rollback ==

I just wanted to say thankyou for allowing me to use rollback. It really means alot to me that i can be trusted to use it.
Thanks!
] (]) 11:29, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

:You're welcome! :) —] ''•'']''•'' 12:27, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== Talkback ==

{{tb|Jake Wartenberg|Your request for rollback}}
:{{Done}} —] ''•'']''•'' 19:20, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

== 82.31.95.212 ==

I just told him I'd hold off reverting for 15 minutes, let's see how this plays out. ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 23:07, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

:Well, generally IPs are ] and according to the protection policy deleting warnings is no ]. However constitute ]. Regards, —] ''•'']''•'' 23:17, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

::Please comment on ]. Thanks. ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 23:34, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

:::{{Done}} () 23:51, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

==Message from ]==
I noticed that you deleted the page about the book All-of-a-kind Family. I'm curious as to why? It's a popular children's book, and the first in a series. Was there an issue with the information on the page? I'm planning on rereading the series soon, and would be willing to rewrite a page for the book, but I don't want to bother if it's just going to be deleted.

-Anne {{unsigned|Annilita|17:47, 11 December 2008}}

:Hey. Could you please provide a link to the page you are referring to? —] ''•'']''•'' 17:52, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

== 86.25.50.34 ==

<s>Hey. I noticed you blocked this user for their changing of musical genres without sources. I don't think this is a valid block, considering the genre New Wave is indeed written in capitals (see ]). Is there anything else I'm unaware of? If not, then I think an unblock would probably be appropriate.</s>
:I just noticed he is a sock. Nevermind :) —''']''' (] · ] · ]) 17:33, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== Twinkle ==

Thank-you for the advice on my ] to use ], It's just the sort of tool I was after.
] (]) 21:50, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

:You're welcome! :) —] ''•'']''•'' 22:01, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

== Rollback ==

Your input would be greatly appreciated. I commented . <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 08:49, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

:Hey Pedro. Thanks for the message. I commented on this request . While I think the user had not enough experience for rollback yesterday, the work he did since then constitutes enough experience for rollback. Therefore I granted the request. Best wishes, —] ''•'']''•'' 13:59, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
::Yep, good call. All his recent reversions looked spot on, but as you had declined only yesterday I prefered to leave it back to you on this one! Thank you. <small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 14:12, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

== RfA thankspam ==
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Special thanks go out to ] and ] for nominating me, and I will try to take everyone's comments on board.

Thanks again for the trust the community has placed in me. A special Christmas song for you all can be found at the right hand side of this message!
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<small>Apologies if you don't like RfA thankspam, this message was delivered by ] which can't tell whether you want it or not. Feel free to remove it.</small> ''']''' <small>]</small><sup>]</sup>, 17:17, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
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:You're welcome. :) Congratulations! —] ''•'']''•'' 20:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Good questions ==

Those are some pretty revealing questions you ] {{user|Undead warrior 3}}. I plan on throwing my hat in the ring early next year, I hope you have some equally-probing questions for me. It would be kind of sad to be approved by "per noms" who did nothing more than read the nom, read the answers to the basic questions, and do a quick-check of my history. ]/<small><small>(])/(])/(])</small></small> 18:02, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

== regarding ] ==

I've seen and reverted his vandalism (on ]), and I noticed your warning about blocking him in case he vandalizes again in his talk page. I'm not sure what I'm expected to do in such a case, so I left this message to you here. I hope its okay. ] (]) 19:43, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

:You could have reported the user to ], however, leaving a message here was okay as well. :) I blocked the user indefinitely. Regards, —] ''•'']''•'' 20:02, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

== Recent actions ==

I noticed your from ] for ], although I didn't see any engagement with ABF - just a summary removal of rollback. This was seemingly for one revert deemed to be incorrect (although not clearly so according to ], which states ''clearly unproductive'' edits as sufficient cause for use of rollback). I thought about it before commenting and at first decided against it, but then a few minutes later I saw your own where the user cleared warnings (and eventual block message). I'm not sure of the difference between the two uses of rollback; the latter could be viewed as being more against policy than the former. I'm not necessarily subscribing to that view, but ] (a shortcut to a specific portion of ]) is pretty clear on the subject of not prohibiting blanking of warnings for both named and anonymous editors. Maybe there were more reverts that caused you to remove rollback, so I understand I might not have the whole picture here. Can you provide a little more depth to this, especially in light of your own similar use of rollback? I don't think it's useful to get into a wikilawyering discussion of whether the edit in question was blatant vandalism; that may not be clearly definable in either case, really. But couldn't you have at least engaged the editor first, rather than immediately removing rollback? <small><span style="padding:2px;border:1px solid #000000">]&nbsp;{{!}}&nbsp;]</span></small> 19:19, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

:With all due respect, I may ''strongly'' recommend having a look at the relevant policy, as my use of rollback there was ''perfectly'' ]: Removing a block template while blocked is simply not allowed. Additionally, removing a block template while blocked is absolutely not a ]. It's blatantly against policy. Therefore I feel a bit offended by your allegations. Concerning the revocation of rollback: There is broad consent that rollback can be used for blatant vandalism ''only'' (cf. ], ]). In any case it may not be used for good faith edits and to bite newcomers. Additionally rollback may be removed at any time (cf. ]) if misused — without prior notice (cf. ; “”). All in all I think my decision was/is reasonable and completely okay. Regards, —] ''•'']''•'' 20:27, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

::I withdraw the comparison; as I stated above, I understood there could be disagreement and neither of us (nor the project) is well-served by wiki-lawyering. That was far from my main point, which is this: what's the problem with contacting the user when a questionable revert takes place? We often give vandals four warnings before blocking; don't we owe a long-term contributor with over 17,000 edits at least as much respect? <small><span style="padding:2px;border:1px solid #000000">]&nbsp;{{!}}&nbsp;]</span></small> 20:46, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

:::The revert was not questionable, but simply completely inappropriate. Biting newcomers is unacceptable. Again, I think I explained it quite elaborately above why there was no need to contact the user before removing the tool. —] ''•'']''•'' 21:04, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

::::And biting valued vandal-fighters (>17K contributions) does not square very well with ]. <small><span style="padding:2px;border:1px solid #000000">]&nbsp;{{!}}&nbsp;]</span></small> 21:23, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

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