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A bold proposal

In an attempt to turn a divisive RfC into something productive I have created a new page. I hope you will come and do what you can to help make it work: Misplaced Pages: Areas for Reform Slrubenstein | Talk 19:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Peter David

Hi, Raul. I did a lot of extensive work on the Peter David article, putting copious amounts of sources in it, rewriting and rearranging it, removing unsourced material, adding material, etc. It is currently rated a C on the quality scale. Do you know how to request a reevaluation, or can you tell me what can be done to improve it to a better status? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 01:31, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Something that may be of use to you

Misplaced Pages:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard/Archive45#Reverting in unsourced material to BLP articles is interesting reading. At the time Fredrick Day wasn't banned only indef blocked (was banned later) but Abd saw fit to wikilawyer over whether he was banned or not, and revert all his edits on the basis that he was banned even to the point of adding gratuitous BLP violations back to articles. That seems to be the exact opposite of his approach when acting as a proxy for Jed Rothwell, correct? As the last post in that thread shows there's more details in the AN/ANI archives from that time, don't have time to dig round for links for them sorry. 2 lines of K₃₀₃ 12:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Suggestion

Could you delete the last two words ("of lies") here? This tends to provoke negative reactions, regardless of whether the characterization is true. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 18:35, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Done. Raul654 (talk) 18:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Great, but also watch out for tasty worms. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 20:02, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

The filter helps locate him .... but

... he is crawling out all over the place.... Yonkers Sam is definitively him. Several ip-edits are also him - i've given up on marking down everywhere he edits.

You where right. The ip-range blocks where a large help, and now we see it. --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 21:02, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm rather busy dealing with other things at the moment, so I'll leave it up to those short-sighted admins who pushed to get rid of the rangeblocks to now deal with the mess they've created. FWIW, you might want to compare the new IPs with the list of recently unblocked ranges here. You might also want to start another AN or ANI thread. Raul654 (talk) 21:08, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

You honestly think that long-term blocks on over 400,000 IPs (based on your Scibaby subpage) are justified to prevent one POV pusher who's fairly easy to identify? I'd like to see what approach you would have taken to handle Grawp vandalism. For what it's worth, I believe these blocks have helped to some degree, but he's always managed to sneak away onto an unblocked IP to edit. I don't think this partial effectiveness is an arguable defense against preventing hundreds of legitimate anonymous contributors from editing Misplaced Pages. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 23:07, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, you aren't the one who has to clean it up now that he does get through.... And we're just seeing the tip of the 'berg now, since he can just create new puppets for slow ripening, without any form of hindering. Now i'm not saying that massive ip-blocks are good - but the situation now isn't better... --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 23:59, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

This certainly sounds difficult to deal with! 84.134.152.44 (talk) 08:21, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I sympathize with you. I myself deal with vandals who simply don't understand that there is more to life than disrupting Misplaced Pages. Kim, what do you think about semi-protection? Will that help? Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 13:40, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

It won't help, because he ages his accounts. Do you know someone with checkuser access who would be willing to share the load? Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 13:51, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I am someone with checkuser access. I have been sharing a small part of the load over the last month or so. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 14:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Responding to Nishkid's comment above - Grawp is easy to detect. In fact, his MO is so obvious that there are now automated tools to deal with him. Scibaby, contrary to your claims, is not easy to detect. It requires someone with checkuser access, who watches the affected articles, knows what to look for, and runs lots of checkusers. If he were easy to spot, checkuser access would not be required, and this would be a non-issue.

Of course, Grawp is easy to detect. I never said he wasn't. He's difficult, however, to handle. From my limited experience with Scibaby, I've found that he targets a somewhat specific subset of articles. Patrol the articles and you've hit most of the Scibaby socks (of course, there is the occasional page that goes undetected). If you want me to handle Scibaby, I'll do it. I run dozens of CUs every day, and adding a few Scibaby checks now and then won't make me complain. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 16:02, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Patrol the articles and you've hit most of the Scibaby socks - and how is someone without checkuser supposed to tell the difference between an ordinary newbie who happens to have edited the wrong article and a scibaby sock? If it requires checkuser to tell the difference, then by definition he is not easy to detect. Raul654 (talk) 16:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I believe these blocks have helped to some degree - the blocks were highly effective in dealing him - he went from registering 15 or 20 socks at a time to doing them in singletons. (So quantitatively, that makes them 93%-95% effective. If you hit 93% in baseball, they'd call you the greatest player who ever lived.) Only someone totally ignorant of his behavior could claim they were not effective.

I take issue with the ridiculous 5 year blocks you made on a number of IP ranges. Of course, these blocks helped, but it was easy enough for him to figure out that he could just go down the block to make another set of accounts on a different ISP. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 16:02, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Seeing as how he waited out the 3, 6, 12, and 18 month blocks I started with, 5 years was the natural next step. Raul654 (talk) 16:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

but he's always managed to sneak away onto an unblocked IP to edit. - that's because he registers new accounts using his cell phone. IIRC, he uses the Sprint network, which is a huge, highly dynamic range, akin to what AOL was before they implemented XFF, except with *far* fewer legitimate users. The whole network should be blocked until they get XFF.

Yes, I've seen. Sprint PCS, same UA every time. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 16:02, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't think this partial effectiveness is an arguable defense against preventing hundreds of legitimate anonymous contributors from editing Misplaced Pages. - this is a strawman argument. Virtually all the blocks were anon-only. Anyone who wanted to could request an account, just as they would for any other website on the internet, and be totally unaffected by the blocks. What we're really talking about is the handful of users on those blocked ranges who wanted to edit, but didn't want to request an account. Compare that to the dozens or hundreds of regular editors on the affected articles who *very much* don't want to deal with a massive influx of sockpuppets. Raul654 (talk) 15:30, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

One of things people should realize with experience is that an anon is only going to create an account to make an edit if he feels it's really worth his while. Most of the time, he'll see the block notice and leave the article alone. I consider this to be a concern that still needs addressing by the community. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 16:02, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

One of things people should realize with experience is that an anon is only going to create an account to make an edit if he feels it's really worth his while. - At that point, it becomes just as "hard" to participate on Misplaced Pages as it is for any other website on the internet, and this is not an especially high bar to participation. If I have to choose between making it easy to edit for those potential contributors who aren't all that interested in creating an account, and keeping Misplaced Pages sane for the actual regular editors who have to deal with Scibaby, it's a no brainer. Raul654 (talk) 16:16, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Senedd

Would you please review Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Senedd/archive1. Even under the new expedited rules this seems harsh: promotion was denied on the basis of one oppose, all the objections of which had been dealt with when the candidacy was closed - one was unsound, but that's a detail. Am I missing something? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 04:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

The FAC had been open for almost a month (28 June to 25 July) with no Support (your Support, Pma, was entered after the FAC was archived). (I'm wondering wht the "new expedited rules" might refer to?) Please feel free to inquire on my talk page. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 05:13, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

This is entirely procedural. Steve Smith and Eubulides approved the article, even if they didn't use the magic word Support.

I see then than the nominator was correct in asking me to refine my position. I made a comment (not an oppose) and was fully satisfied. I regret that I did not respond to his request faster.

Sandy, I thought we went through this; please archive, close, and put in the {{poll}} tags at the same time; this was days.Septentrionalis PMAnderson 06:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Please check your math; GimmeBot tagged it closed less than 24 hours after I closed it. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:27, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not approve the article. I approved only the article's alt text (which is pretty much all that I read of the article). I use the magic word Support only when I support the entire article. Unfortunately I often don't have time to read whole articles carefully. Eubulides (talk) 07:52, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

We have {{FACClosed}} for that purpose, but editors don't always have the time to put it in. Also, Steve Smith didn't necessarily register his support, he just noted that image issues were fine. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:01, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

The FACClosed template can be added by any editor once the FA director or delegate has moved a FAC to the promoted or archived log. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:26, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

New rules?

Hello, Raul. What are these new "expedited" rules that I see referenced, and are they the reason for Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Jack Coggins/archive2 being refused after 2 weeks with no opposition while Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Jack Coggins/archive1 went on for over a month? -- Avi (talk) 05:47, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

There are no new expedited rules (I'm also unclear what PMA is referring to). Two weeks has always been typical, while I've always tried to let them run longer (up to a month) if the page isn't backlogged. One way nominators can help improve the situation is by helping out with some reviews; many editors have to review each FAC before they can be promoted, so if nominators help out by reviewing some others, everyone wins. SandyGeorgia (Talk)

Sandy does not take credit for her actual accomplishment, of speeding up the FAC from its old norm (for which two weeks would have been minimal) to the present faster pace. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 06:37, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Four to five days has always been minimal; review old archives. In fact, I have slowed down the pace. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

(to Avi) It helps if you ask reviewers if their concerns have been addressed, and if there's anything left, et al. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:22, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Scibaby

I suspect this is another for you - if it isn't already spotted and handled, that is: User:Jonny Jameson - Bilby (talk) 14:34, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

See above - until further notice, I'm going to let others deal with Scibaby. Raul654 (talk) 19:29, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

No hassles. I can well understand why. - Bilby (talk) 22:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

TFA html.

He Raul, can i propose this ? The extra p that is currently being created in TFA's is having unexpected alignment issues on the new mobile site. The HTML generated with these changes is cleaner and will prevent any further problems. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 19:08, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't have any objections to doing that. Raul654 (talk) 19:38, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

It is important to have <div>]</div>, without linebreaks. The linebreaks in the div will cause the actual extra paragraph to be inserted. The new styling is just to correct the margins. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 12:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah, ok. Raul654 (talk) 14:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

FAR again

Can you take a look at the FARCs at the bottom for Aramaic language, Krag-Jorgensen and Peterboroguh Chronicle please? I can't close them and Joelr31 said he would but has only made 1 edit in the last three weeks (to say that he would close them) YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 02:20, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes - I'll review these later tonight (in 5 or 6 hours). Raul654 (talk) 22:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, I missed yesterday, but I'll definitely get to them today. Raul654 (talk) 15:55, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Better late than never. I closed 2 of them, but left Aramaic language there a bit longer for Gareth. Raul654 (talk) 05:15, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Lake Burley Griffin and Cane toad are nearing closure. Most people will be satisfied soon in the next week I think; I was involved in renovating both of them. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 05:25, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Krag-Petersson and Sheffield is now a while old but I was involved there too. YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 03:02, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Ping. Sheffield is now being worked on....No movement on Aramaic YellowMonkey (cricket calendar poll!) paid editing=POV 03:28, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Ping again for FAR! YellowMonkey (cricket photo poll!) paid editing=POV 03:17, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Feature lists on the main page

I recently asked SandyGeorgia if there was a process by which a featured list could be nominated for the main page, to which the answer was no. Therefore, I wanted to know if I could offer up a new proposal, somewhere, that feature list nominations be considered for the main page? Do you think that is something the community might be open to? What do you think of the idea? Regardless, thank you for your time, and your work on wikipedia! ---kilbad (talk) 01:43, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

• I am particularly interested in getting the list of cutaneous conditions nominated. ---kilbad (talk) 20:26, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

CO2 and methane

Can you clarify what you mean here? Presently the radiative forcing from increased CO2 is about 1.7 W/m2, versus about 0.5 W/m2 for CH4. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:39, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I reverted because it looked like vandalism to me - a relatively new editor comes in and changes a long-standing answer in the FAQ to say the opposite of what it had previously. (And IMO it could go either way because methane causes far more warming on a per molecule basis, although there's less of it so it causes less total warming.) If you think the change is OK, then I'm fine with you reverting me. You're the expert. Raul654 (talk) 01:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

What, me expert? Anyway this guy been running around to various articles reorganizing FAQs into this drop-down format. He means well, but he doesn't know the subject matter in all of these articles so he sometimes screws up the answers. I'm going to wait until he's done and then go back and fix the content. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 01:49, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

On a related note, I just went looking for Scibaby socks, to see if the filter could be improved. I found three socks (Yonkers Sam, Spe Yndle, and Stuz23), of which two are unblocked as of this writing (Nishkid blocked Yonkers Sam). Worse, I wasn't even trying anything fancy to find them -- I just took the remedial action of checking the recently unblocked ranges. Worse still is the fact that Stuz23 tripped the filter and nobody did anything about it! Conclusion - the situation is still intolerable. Further time spent pursuing this is not well spent. The only bright spot, so far as I can tell, is that the 205 filter is optimal as far as type II errors are concerned. Raul654 (talk) 15:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Question for you

Well since it is claimed that we are members of some kind of cabal would you mind sharing the secret handshake, or tell me if I should get a special hat (tinfoil I am assuming) but please, oh please tell me I don't have to like science, you know Cold fusion, Global warming. I don't do science so tell me anything but do the science of it! :) Anyways, since I haven't had contact with most of the editors who are supposed to be running like a gang in this cabal I did search some of the editors and I have to admit I am impressed. I do nothing for this project compared to most of the rest of you, and I mean this with all sincerity. Keep up the great work you do here. I can't really think this late in the day here so I'm on way off the computer. Have a good night, --CrohnieGal 19:57, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm really steamed. Crohnie gets to be part of the cabal even though she doesn't know the secret handshake. While I've been slavishly following Raul, WMC and the rest for all these years and I only get a lousy "should be noticed in reviewing surrounding activity." Harrumph. Crohnie, play Ted Nugent's "Cat Scratch Fever" backwards at 78 rpm for a high priority cabal message Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 20:09, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

We have a secret handshake? --Stephan Schulz (talk) 20:28, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Life is just not fair, Boris. Too bad you're going to miss the party, but you know, members only... Woonpton (talk) 20:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Ack, and i've been thrown off completely - now i only feature in a small part in the text itself.... And i also wanna know the handshake! --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 09:36, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Accusations

Greetings, Raul654. In reply to this: you and I seem to have differing opinions about what is true and what is false. You said "lying about Abd's actions" while giving a diff of GoRight saying "Abd's statements regarding policy are always backed by the clear text and spirit of the policy in question", a statement which is perfectly true as far as I'm aware. In an attempt to demonstrate the falsity of GoRight's statement, you then quoted Abd saying "We have a claim that Arkady Renkov is a sockpuppet, but no identification of the puppet master, nor any clear confirmation of policy violation". These are three true statements about the situation. They are neither statements about policy, nor false. You state that Arkady explicitly admitted to being a sockpuppet, but give no evidence of such: only a diff of Arkady admitting to being a user who has previously used a different account; and even if Arkady had admitted to such, Abd's statement that there was a claim would still also be true. Your argument about the third statement is a circular argument if the only offense was editing an arbitration page in an otherwise nondisruptive manner; circular arguments can hardly be considered "clear confirmation". ☺Coppertwig (talk) 22:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh for the love of god, this wiki-lawyering is reaching epic proportions. Let me see if I get the gist of your argument -- You claim that Arkady is not a sockpuppet, if "sockpuppet" is defined as a 'malicious alternative account', rather than the commonly used definition of 'any alternative account'. Furthermore you claim that Abd's statement wasn't false statement about policy because, assuming we accept your 'malicious' definition of a sockpuppet, the policy as written states that In particular, sockpuppet accounts may not be used in internal project-related discussions, such as policy debates or Arbitration Committee proceedings -- which, if we accept the premise of your argument (that a sockpuppet is a malicious account and by definition all activities of such are banned) would render that a vacuous statement. Is that about right? Raul654 (talk) 05:36, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

You claimed that GoRight was "lying" and that Abd made false statements about policy, and your claims do not seem to me to stand up to scrutiny. I'm not claiming that the Arkady account was or was not a sockpuppet, and neither was Abd. Your mileage may vary, but it makes sense to me to use the definition given right on that same policy page, i.e. "A sock puppet is an alternative account used for fraudulent, disruptive, or otherwise deceptive purposes..." and "Alternative accounts have legitimate uses." I suppose you could argue, if you wish, that all sentences beginning with "In particular" are vacuous, but I think such sentences serve to emphasize, clarify and strengthen policy as applied in specific circumstances. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 22:58, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Your claims about what a sockpuppet is do not seem to me to stand up to scrutiny. Whatever the policy page says, "sockpuppet" in its common accepted usage means an alternative account. I suppose you could argue, if you wish, that all sentences beginning with "In particular" are vacuous - no, that's *exactly* what you *are* arguing, such as in your first statement on this thread that, where you said that: Your argument about the third statement is a circular argument if the only offense was editing an arbitration page in an otherwise nondisruptive manner. My argument is that alternative accounts of any stripe are prohibited from editing arbcom pages, while you are trying to wikilawyer away the definition of a sockpuppet to include only malicious alternative accounts, and consequently you argument is that explicit policy statements that sockpuppet accounts are prohibited from participating in arbcom proceedings are vacuous and redundant. And this is a wacky interpretation of policy if I've ever seen it. Raul654 (talk) 00:15, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I see as much creativity in your interpretation of policy, and in your informing me of what I (according to you) must have meant, as in your interpretation of Abd's and GoRight's original statements. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 20:51, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Re this comment: I don't consider your description of what you allege I'm trying to do to be accurate. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 21:21, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I see as much "novelty" in your interpretation of Misplaced Pages policy so that certain parts of it (such as the prohibition on the use of sockpuppets in arbitration) are meaningless as I see coming from GoRight and Abd. Raul654 (talk) 23:10, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I also see the arbitration committee has defined sockpuppetry as it is commonly used, and contrary to your supposed definition of it, thus demolishing your argument. Raul654 (talk) 14:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry: I didn't find a definition of sockpuppetry in the link you give. Could you tell me which subsection it's in?

If someone edits an arbitration case with an admitted alternative account, my approach would be to ask them what their reason is for using an alternative account, and if necessary point out to them the sentence about arbitration proceedings in the sockpuppet policy. Given the existence of that sentence, they had better have a good reason. For example, if the person declares the name of their main account, states that their alternative account is for the purpose of posting from public computers, and confirms this from their main account, then I would consider that sufficient. There may be other good reasons. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 19:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

As it says clearly on that page, The use of sockpuppet accounts, while not generally forbidden, is discouraged. This contradicts your claim that sockpuppets are malicious and prohibited by definition. In short, the arbitration committee has implicitly defined a sockpuppet as the term is commonly understood - as any alternative account, whether used for good or not. That is why they go on to state explicitly: Abuse of sockpuppet accounts... is prohibited. Sockpuppet accounts are not to be used in discussions internal to the project, such as policy debates. I hope this has been enlightening for you. Raul654 (talk) 19:52, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

FAR

Just saw you edit, so I had to nag you again YellowMonkey (cricket photo poll!) paid editing=POV 07:28, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I promise to tend to FAC and FAR by tomorrow at the latest. Raul654 (talk) 14:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Raul, I should be OK to get through FAC this weekend. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:56, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but I had to nag again....YellowMonkey (cricket photo poll!) paid editing=POV 02:52, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

No, it's my bad. I scheduled the main page FAs as promised, but didn't get to FAR. I've done it now. Raul654 (talk) 03:04, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, you removed Aramaic language from the list but haven't put it in the archive as kept or removed. Thanks YellowMonkey (cricket photo poll!) paid editing=POV 03:18, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Howdy there

As I understand it, Forest Park (Portland) is about to be featured on the main page. We've been discussing on the talk page, and are pretty sure the article title should be changed to Forest Park (Portland, Oregon) to comply with MOS and all that. Any problem if we make this last-minute change?

Thanks as always for your work on this stuff! -Pete (talk) 22:13, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

No problems here -- just make sure you update the main page blurb so it goes to the new name and not the redirect. Raul654 (talk) 22:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for my ignorance -- where does that live? -Pete (talk)

Never mind...found it...fixed :) Thanks. -Pete (talk) 23:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

FAR interview

Hey there. I would like to conduct an interview regarding the Featured Article Review process over the next week or two. Are you available / are you interested? --Cryptic C62 · Talk 15:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I'm interested, although mid-September or later would work better for me. Raul654 (talk) 05:13, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Question

Why was the link you removed considered "inappropriate"? It was a much higher-value and specific link than just linking to the article about the Olympics for that year. Regards, Dabomb87 (talk) 21:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Because a link to the 2008 Olympics, which Johnson didn't play in and probably didn't attend, is not appropriate. It has no place in the at article. Raul654 (talk) 21:49, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, I see. Thank you for your prompt response. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:50, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

On second thought, wouldn't it make sense to link to Basketball at the 1992 Summer Olympics instead of removing the link altogether? I think the insertion of 2008 was a typo. Dabomb87 (talk) 21:52, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that would make sense. Raul654 (talk) 21:53, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, I reinstated it. Can it be reinstated in the Main Page blurb? Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 21:56, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Today's featured article/August 12, 2009

Hey, I just wanted to ask if you could consider finding a replacement for this. I was planning on nominating it for December 25, and it does still need a bit of work before it's suitable for the main page, I think. –Juliancolton |  22:32, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Christmas in August!--Wehwalt (talk) 20:45, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

ffmpeg2theora

I used this to convert the MP4 downloaded from Apollo 8 MP4 to file:Apollo8Launch.ogg but it lost the sound. Is there a way to keep the sound in the conversion? Bubba73 (talk), 20:12, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

SPI

I'm not sure this is the greatest idea. It probably won't stick, so when GR really does cross the line there'll be some skepticism to overcome. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 22:24, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree - it's ridiculous that he's been able to flaunt the meatpuppetry policy for so long. Attempts to deal with it up until now have not worked. I think it's long past time to start documenting it as publicly as possible. Raul654 (talk) 22:28, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

OK. I tend to wait until misbehavior becomes absolutely blindingly incontrovertibly obvious, but there's also value in acting before that point. I'm tending to be more and more of a WP:SLOTH as time goes on. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 22:49, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Block of 129.82.40.0/20 affecting IP 129.82.47.113

Hello Raul654,

This does not affect me so much since I have a user account (as you see I am logged in) but I just wanted to let you know that your block of the IP range 129.82.40.0/20 is also somehow affecting the IP address 129.82.47.113. I am not too up on the complete details of how a block works, but I just wanted you to know that this was happening.

I also believe the IP range you blocked may have been reassigned since your block as that range is now used by the Colorado State University Computer science department in our new building (which opened since the block took affect.) If your could review the block to make sure that it is still doing what you intended, that would be great. --BsayUSDCSU 20:22, 4 August 2009 (UTC)