Misplaced Pages

Revision as of 21:28, 18 September 2009

Awadewit does not operate in wiki-time - she may not respond swiftly to your queries. I like to keep conversational threads together, so I will respond to your comment here.

Archives

1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · 6 · 7 · 8 · 9 · 10 · 11 · 12 · 13 · 14 · 15 · 16 · 17 · 18 · 19 · 20 · 21 · 22 · 23 · 24 · 25 · 26 · 27 · 28 · 29 · 30 · 31 · 32 · 33 · 34 · 35 · 36 · 37 · 38 · 39 · 40

Sarah Trimmer

Dear Awadewit,

I hope the family concerns won't be too serious and will let you enjoy summer time.

I am very close to finish the translation of your Sarah Trimmer's article in French. I just need your help concerning what you name "public letters". Is it equivalent to an open letter or is it different ?

Kind regards. Giovanni-P (talk) 15:17, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

This is so exciting! Thanks, again, for your splendid work on these translations! "Public letters" is more of a metaphor - it means "the intellectual world of print". It is akin to the Republic of Letters. Awadewit (talk) 21:58, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the answer. It helps a lot. Giovanni-P (talk) 11:54, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Joseph Priestley

Hi,

I see that you have reverted my edit of Joseph Priestley. The whole discussion you referred me too has concluded to a right handed picture and I challenge you to prove me otherwise. Anyway, I fail to see why anybobody would insist on this minor and ridiculous image placement issue and would insist not having an Infobox, as is the norm in the rest of Misplaced Pages. I don't really care about the placement and the contributors to this article can continue ad nauseam to discuss the finer points of this dramatic issue. That goes well with an article about a theological debater, like "how many angels on a pin head".

Pierre cb (talk) 18:02, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Given Awadewit's family concerns, I was bold and replied on Pierre cb's talk page. A - hope all is well and let me know if I can be of help in any way, Ruhrfisch _><>° 18:16, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - I appreciate it. Awadewit (talk) 21:58, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Toft

Just a quick note, I missed your barnstar for Toft, thanks for the message :) Parrot of Doom (talk) 19:57, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome! Awadewit (talk) 21:59, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for The Queen of Hearts (poem)

On August 6, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article The Queen of Hearts (poem), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Wikiproject: Did you know? 20:14, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Family stuff

Just noticed the notice about dealing with family concerns; I hope everything goes well and/or offer support. Scartol • Tok 13:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - I've emailed you. Awadewit (talk) 03:08, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Pity we couldn't use this.......

cute eh? - shows warbling, songs and human feeding with Australian Magpies...Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:30, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

The commentary is awesome. :) Awadewit (talk) 03:17, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I have childhood memories of my grandmother getting mince and feeding it to what would end up as a scrum of these mostly black-and-white carnivorous birds - in the one place there'd be Grey Butcherbirds, Pied Currawongs, Australian Ravens and Kookaburras as well as magpies - very funny. Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

That's a wonderful memory! I have to say, I associate "mince" with the 19th century - Dickens and mince pies. :) Awadewit (talk) 12:52, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Penitents Compete

On August 8, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Penitents Compete, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

WP:DYK 20:15, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Signpost: 10 August 2009

• Special story: Tropenmuseum to host partnered exhibit with Wikimedia community
• News and notes: Tech news, strategic planning, BLP task force, and more
• Misplaced Pages in the news: Shrinking community, GLAM-Wiki, and more
• Features and admins: Approved this week
• Arbitration report: The Report on Lengthy Litigation

Delivered by SoxBot (talk) at 02:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

A Laff about Balzac

Since you were around for the FAC process, I thought you might find this amusing: When I saw these edits, I pictured Margaret Tyzack herself, editing Misplaced Pages anonymously, faded movie posters on the wall, muttering as she switched the names around: "Dammit, I was the star of that movie! Helen Mirren can kiss my butt!" Chuckle. Scartol • Tok 21:13, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

A Sunset Boulevard moment. Awadewit (talk) 22:52, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Main page feminist suggestion?

See . Dabomb87 (talk) 22:27, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Done. Awadewit (talk) 22:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Boulton

I am out of the U.S., Google books is not working for me (at least it is not giving me any previews) and I don't know what to do about it. Can you add something quickly about the Industrial revolution? I am sorry, I totally ran out of time and internet access before I left.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:15, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't - see above notice about family issues. Awadewit (talk) 18:51, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

OK, I will be home next weekend and will make it top priority.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:52, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

WikiVoices FAC review

After noticing that the proposed article is in the scope of WP:MILHIST, I left a note on our coordinator's talk page, but you might want to drop a note on our main project talk page as well. -MBK₀₀₄ 21:53, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Good idea - done. Awadewit (talk) 22:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Priestley House closed indefintely

Argh! I added it to the article. If the state legislature can ever pass a budget, who knows what will happen. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, I will keep an eye on this, and update as needed. Ruhrfisch _><>° 04:03, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

At least I saw it before it closed! :) Awadewit (talk) 04:08, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

All is not lost - found a better news article. See the talk page. Take care, Ruhrfisch _><>° 04:10, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Renominating Unification of Germany

I've renominated the Unification of Germany article. It seemed a shame that all your work and that of the other readers would be lost, so will notify those who did take the time to read it. I've made some substantive changes to the text on Bismarck, and have asked a few of the German project reviewers to take a particular look at that. I think we're reasonably good on it. I'd appreciate your support. Hope your family issues are resolving themselves satisfactorily. Auntieruth55 (talk) 14:42, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm afraid I don't have time to reread the article right now (see message at top of user talk), but I see the FAC is going well - way to go! Awadewit (talk) 01:38, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Signpost: 17 August 2009

• From the editor: Where should the Signpost go from here?
• Radio review: Review of Bigipedia radio series
• News and notes: Three million articles, Chen, Walsh and Klein win board election, and more
• Misplaced Pages in the news: Reports of Misplaced Pages's imminent death greatly exaggerated, and more
• Discussion report: Discussion Reports and Miscellaneous Articulations
• Features and admins: Approved this week
• Arbitration report: The Report on Lengthy Litigation
• Technology report: Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News

Delivered by SoxBot (talk) at 01:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Wikivoices FAC review

Awadewit, thank you for inviting me, but I have to decline. The time clashes with a family activity and I am not of the Internet messaging or talk -type (one of my several personality quirks). However, I have documented my image opinions of the article at Talk:History of the United Kingdom during World War I#Image review (FAC-style) (I presume someone is going to nominate it at FAC before or on Sunday?). Jappalang (talk) 03:08, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much - that was a wonderful review - we will definitely use it! Awadewit (talk) 00:37, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

File:SteventonRectory.jpg

I now have a little flash drive full of complete 1600dpi scans of all the art in the Memoir, and the title page. I'll try to get them ready so you have something nice to come back to. Shoemaker's Holiday 15:09, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much - I hope to start working on Jane again soon. Awadewit (talk) 01:38, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Nikita_Zotov#Possible_sources

Hey there Awadewit. I was wondering if you might take a look at Talk:Nikita_Zotov#Possible_sources – specifically, this source. I was wondering, based of Materialscientist's comment on the talk page, if it would pass WP:RS standards. I do know you're very busy, so feel free to sidetrack this until you get some time on your hands (or perhaps one of the talk page watchers could jump in ;)). Regards, NW (Talk) 00:51, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Responded at the article talk page. Awadewit (talk) 01:44, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

The Historian

I as delayed in undertaking this GA review, but have now completed it. I hope all is well with you, and I will keep an eye on the page from time to time. Ling me if you have any queries. Regards. hamiltonstone (talk) 12:29, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

I have been helping with this one too and will see what I can do to help out. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:26, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Cas, if you could track down the NYT bestseller lists, that would be wonderful. Awadewit (talk) 01:45, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

WikiVoices

Thanks for taking charge, steering discussion, and provoking good questions! --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs 22:47, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

oh, shoot ... I never responded ! I'm scared to death of Skype, but I'm sorry for forgetting to respond. How did it go? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:50, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

It was long, but I thought it went well. Listen to it while doing laundry or dishes. :) (Now you know how long I wait to do laundry.) Awadewit (talk) 01:46, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Georgian society

Hello !
I am currently working on an article devoted to the world of Jane Austen's novels, as I believe it to be a worthwhile insight into the background of her novels. Any suggested reading (dedicated to this approach) beyond Deirdre Le Faye's eponymous book ?
May I add that your various articles on Mary Wollstonecraft provide very interesting reading ? My best regards. Azurfrog (talk) 14:24, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment! The article you are working on looks wonderful - we should find someone to translate it into English! I don't have time at the moment to put together a list of books, but if you can wait a week or two, I will have more time then. Awadewit (talk) 01:48, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

No problem! I prefer to wait and get competent advice. By the bye, many of your articles are currently being translated into French, such as Joseph Priestley, Joseph Priestley House (now featured articles, both of them), Mary Wollstonecraft, and Sarah Trimmer, to mention just a few.
Best regards. Azurfrog (talk) 18:18, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Raveloft

Hello! Ravenloft (module) has been nominated for FAC again. As you commented in one or both of the previous FAC discussions, I'm inviting you to have another look. Thanks! BOZ (talk) 22:25, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'm afraid I don't have time to comment at the moment (see user talk message above). Awadewit (talk) 01:49, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

No problem - sometimes an invite is out of politeness if nothing else. :) BOZ (talk) 12:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

MARCAS!

Since I know you have just oodles of free time — and because you're surely not annoyed at how I skipped out on the WikiVoices podcast you went out of your way to invite me to — perhaps you'd like to have a look at Z. Marcas? I haven't done up a proper peer review process, since I'm not sure if it's worth taking to FAC or not. (Obviously I'll want your opinion on that.) Hope this finds you well, and I look forward to listening to the discussion! Scartol • Tok 01:08, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Of course, I would love to read it! However, my dad goes in for surgery in two days. Could I read it in a week or two? Life should be a bit calmer then. Awadewit (talk) 01:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Of course, please take all the time you need. Dad — that's what I meant to say in my email. Your dad. I hope everything goes well. Best wishes, natch. Scartol • Tok 02:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I've finally gotten around to this. Awadewit (talk) 06:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Signpost: 24 August 2009

• News and notes: $500,000 grant, Wikimania, Misplaced Pages Loves Art winners
• Misplaced Pages in the news: Health care coverage, 3 million articles, inkblots, and more
• Discussion report: Discussion Reports and Miscellaneous Articulations
• Features and admins: Approved this week
• Arbitration report: The Report on Lengthy Litigation
• Technology report: Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News

Delivered by SoxBot (talk) at 03:01, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

fr:Sarah Trimmer on its way to FA on the French WP

Dear Awadewit,

The translation of you work "Sarah Trimmer" is proposed as a featured article on the French WP.

I got some questions from a user there, maybe you can help me.

• He is surprised the article doesn't mention links between Trimmer and Edmund Burke, as well as links with Jane West. Do you have any comment about that ?
• The last point being, is it a review or comments of Trimmer on John Newbery's Tom Telescope ?

Kind regards. Giovanni-P (talk) 14:32, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

The article mentions the links between Trimmer's and Burke's ideas in general. Burke represented a specific kind of conservatism that Trimmer largely supported. I'm not sure if the scholarship on Trimmer makes this connection explicit and I am away from my sources at the time, so I cannot check that. The connection to West is obvious as well, but I don't remember it being mentioned anywhere in the scholarship. If it is, it is not a main idea. Awadewit (talk) 15:04, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you are referring to in the last question, as Tom Telescope is not mentioned in the article. Awadewit (talk) 15:04, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

The question was about the "debt" Sarah Trimmer may have had as regards John Newbery's approach to children's litterature in general. The reference to Tom Telescope is certainly not really relevant, as Newbery's approach there aimed at being scientific (so not quite Sarah Timmer's cup of tea, I believe). --Azurfrog (talk) 14:02, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I haven't read anything that makes a Trimmer-Newbery connection, as far as I remember. Of course, Newbery helped initiate a viable children's literature market in England, but what he published was quite different than Trimmer. Awadewit (talk) 03:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

History of Sesame Street

Hi Awadewit,

I hesitate asking, since it's still August, but would you mind looking at the images on this article? It's currently in GAC, and its reviewer wants a review of the images. You are the go-to gal for this kind of thing, ya know. ;) I've already made sure that each image has a fair use rationale, and I'm gonna work on the captions next. Thanks for your help, as always. I will probably contact you again for a peer review once it passes GA. Good luck with everything else. --Christine (talk) 18:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

• I'm not doing any reviewing right now, as my dad just had open heart surgery. It seems like you need a review right away - apologies I can't help! Awadewit (talk) 15:05, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

No problems. I hope your dad recovers quickly. My dad had a triple bypass a couple of years ago, and he's healthier now than he's been for years. He quit a 50-year old smoking habit, cut down on the drinking, even lost some weight. Don't worry yourself about it; in the large scheme of things, as I'm sure you know, an image review pales. --Christine (talk) 15:46, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Advisory Council on Project Development

There is a thread on the talk page of the above named article regarding whether that council is still active at Misplaced Pages talk:Advisory Council on Project Development#Still viable?. As one of the listed members, your input would very likely be useful. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 16:34, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I cannot participate in an ongoing thread as my father just had open heart surgery and I am only checking wiki occasionally. I will read it in a few days, however. Awadewit (talk) 15:13, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Image editing policies

When the suggestion of flipping the Priestley portrait arose the last time or two, I thought Misplaced Pages had a guideline against alteration of images, at least without disclosure and a good reason for the alteration. The policy question has arisen elsewhere, but I can't find the policy. Was I dreaming? —Finell (Talk) 05:30, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Since A has much more important things on her mind right now, I will be BOLD and try to answer. The sixth bullet point of MOS:IMAGES is as follows:

It is often preferable to place images of faces so that the face or eyes look toward the text. Multiple images in the same article can be staggered right-and-left (for example: Timpani). However, images should not be reversed simply to resolve a conflict between these guidelines; doing so misinforms the reader for the sake of our layout preferences. An image should be reversed or substantially altered only if this clearly assists the reader (for example, cropping a work of art to focus on a detail discussed in the text). Any such alteration must be noted in the caption.

Hope this answrs your question, Ruhrfisch _><>° 13:53, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Ruhrfisch. —Finell (Talk) 15:21, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Family concerns

I just saw the hatnote on your talk page. I hope that your family concerns are resolved satisfactorily. —Finell (Talk) 05:33, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Ditto. What editor Finell said.  —  ^) Paine Ellsworth (^  07:31, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I heartily concur. Hope that your dad gets a lot of rest and your troubles lessen considerably. Because you know...I have articles for you to review. No, really. I am heartless and selfish. Here's something pointless to cheer you up: . And something much funnier, yet not as nice-hearted: . --Moni3 (talk) 14:11, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks guys! Awadewit (talk) 04:25, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Signpost: 31 August 2009

• Flagged protection and patrolled revisions: Misleading media storm over flagged revisions
• Flagged protection background: An extended look at how we got to flagged protection and patrolled revisions
• Wikimania: Report on Wikimania 2009
• News and notes: $2 million grant, new board members
• Misplaced Pages in the news: WikiTrust, Azerbaijan-Armenia edit wars
• Discussion report: Discussion Reports and Miscellaneous Articulations
• Features and admins: Approved this week
• Arbitration report: The Report on Lengthy Litigation
• Technology report: Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News

Delivered by SoxBot (talk) at 15:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Thomas Boreman

I see you have him down as a project. I'm interested in the sources cited for The White Goddess, and Graves mentions a Thomas Boreman as a mythographer of the 17th century (in relation to something in Pliny). I would say that this is the same person, more likely than not, since the book has many slips in scholarship. Do you have any light to cast on this? Charles Matthews (talk) 06:33, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

The Thomas Boreman I know was an 18th-century British publisher. Here is the tiny stub I haven't bothered to put up yet.

• Thomas Boreman was an 18th-century British publisher. Along with John Newbery and Mary Cooper, he helped establish children's books a viable business. His natural histories, such as A Description of Three Hundred Animals (1730) and A Description of a Great Variety of Animals and Vegetables were popular and greatly influenced later children's books. He also published the earliest known guide books for children, such as The Gigantick History of the Two Famous Giants, and Other Curiosities in Guildhall (1740). Children's literature Mary Jackson describes Boreman's books as "rather prosaic accounts of scenes". However, she acknowledges that he attempted to "leaven instruction with amusement", following the educational theories of John Locke.

• References: Jackson, Mary V. Engines of Instruction, Mischief, and Magic: Children's Literature in England from Its Beginnings to 1839. Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press, 1989. ISBN 0803275706.
• Image

This seems like a different person, don't you think? Awadewit (talk) 04:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Having worked over more of Graves's discussions, I think no, it is the same person he meant, just not accurately described. (The White Goddess, for all its iconic status, seems to be riddled with problems for the scholar.) Thanks for replying. I believe Boreman's books made up a series of 11, of which some were concerned with giant tales and so on. In the context I think Graves was citing what Boreman wrote about the narwhal, in a style mid-way between a bestiary and a zoology book. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Here is the ONDB entry on him. I can email it to either or both of you on Monday, (Won't have reliable internet until then) if you drop me an email asking for it. It's got a bit more than the stub above, which might be helpful. Ealdgyth - Talk 13:48, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I have a question

I was not sure what venue to put forth this question, but then by chance I listened to the recording you all made about reviewing Featured Article Candidates and so I thought I would put it to you. I've been doing some tinkering to Byzantine Empire, trying to mostly clean up its messy image layout and convert the citations to a consistent format (Harv, I guess, since no one has thus far responded on the talk page.) Anyhow I noticed that there are a fair number of citations to Encyclopedia Britannica, and I was wondering if that would be allowed under reliable source criteria (as I recall in the podcast you mentioned something about those not being high quality.) Could you help me or point me to a better venue? Sorry to bother you. Martin Raybourne (talk) 21:47, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

It is not that Britannica is unreliable, it is just that for featured articles, an general encyclopedia like that is not usually a high-quality source (WP:FA?). Britannica is certainly a WP:RS since it is published by a reputable press and fact-checked, etc. However, there are many better sources. So, for example, rather than using the article on "Byzantine Empire", try to find books about the empire instead. Britannica itself can be useful for this, actually. For example, there is "Additional reading" section in the "Byzantine Empire" article - try reading some of those books. It gives an extensive list for each period of the empire, I see. Awadewit (talk) 04:40, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks very much for your response. Martin Raybourne (talk) 18:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Talk:The Age of Reason

Thanks for your note. If you respond slowly, that's OK, there's no hurry. My best wishes for your father's recovery. SamuelTheGhost (talk) 09:34, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - I think it is just the two of us now. Awadewit (talk) 04:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject AP Biology 2009

Hope all is well. This makes me sad ... so many hours and so much frustration. I hope it is truly for the better. Misplaced Pages:Featured article review/Introduction to evolution/archive1 -I for one need to steer clear. On a more positive note - I've unleashed a new batch of students on the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject AP Biology 2009. I think it has improved some in that there are fewer topics (only five). There is also no formal pairing of mentor / mentees, thinking perhaps it would be more inviting to those who simply drop in to assistance as time permits. If you happen to stumble across my little ones; feel free to share the Wiki-love! --JimmyButler (talk) 19:08, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

I've left a little welcome message - I think the idea of fewer topics is a good one. Awadewit (talk) 04:47, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Crown Fountain FAC 4

Ruhrfisch (talk · contribs) thought that you might be able to help. At Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Crown Fountain/archive4‎, we have been asked to clip an .ogg file from 50 to approximately 10 seconds. I do not know anything about .ogg files and am unsure if my co-author knows how to edit them either. Are you willing and able to edit such a file type? Leave a comment at the FAC if you will be able to help.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 13:41, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

P.S. the file at issue is the Crown Fountain main image, File:Crown fountain spouting.ogg.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:12, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I see you have found someone. Awadewit (talk) 21:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

WT:FAC

You were asked for by Fowler to opine. Ottava Rima (talk) 20:32, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

A bit of a chuckle....

This article - Comparison of vampire traits - its Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Comparison of vampire traits raises some interesting issues about depth of the 'pedia, so you might want to weigh in here as most so far are lining up as predicted....Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:25, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

1. Jackson, 73.
2. Jackson, 71-75.